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CamaroSSBoy346
03-07-2005, 10:32 PM
So today I was in World History class, I over heard one of my friends talking to a class mate (who is also into cars), sayinh how he raced a Camaro SS. Thats all I heard, I didnt hear the results.Towards the end of class, I asked him about it. My conversation went something kinda like this.

Me: "Yea, I head you raced a Camaro SS.."
Him: "..Yea..."
Me: "I dunno dude, I think my granny car might be able to keep up with you"
Him "Ha..yea..right...haha..."

One of our other friends chimes in..

Kid: "What you got?"
Me: "94 Thunderbird V8 with a few bolt-ons"
Kid: "He'll definatley smoke you"
Me: "Shrug"
Me: "Wanna race?"
Him: "Hell yea..."

Okay, so...who do you think could win? He has a 1998 Mustang GT (The slowest Mustang GT ever built mind you, although he denies that fact) 250 HP? Or lower even? I just know they werent impressive. He just has a MAC cold air intake, and its a 5 speed. I'm hoping he cant drive it too well. I have a 94 Thunderbird, which has my mods in my sig link. When we race, I'll definatley get it on vid. I wanna go from a roll and a dig.

CivRacer95
03-07-2005, 10:38 PM
Are you sure he just has an intake? Honestly I think you'll take him if he has just what he claims. Otherwise race, get the vid, and post it. L8...

dampachi
03-07-2005, 10:39 PM
Nope. the foxes were. They had 225hp. And I don't know...sounds close. I bet yous both run low 15s.

drdisque
03-07-2005, 11:52 PM
I think he would win, remember, the 4.6 in the Mustang always made more power than the 4.6 in the T-bird, and even if your mods get you to the same power level, you're hauling around about 600-700 lbs more than him. it takes a very bad mustang driver to run your best time.

2000LS1Z28
03-08-2005, 12:01 AM
Nope. the foxes were. They had 225hp. And I don't know...sounds close. I bet yous both run low 15s.
Nope, not quite. The 96-97 Mustang GT's had 215 horsepower. It wasn't until 98 that they spruced it up to 225 horsepower. I know cause I use to have a 98 Cobra (It was a graduation gift from my dad).
Author I think you'll win. People sell automatics short. Most people can't drive for the life of them, let alone consistantly.

Twizted_3KGT
03-08-2005, 12:30 PM
I hate Mustangs...well lets just say I hate Ford altogether...but Mustangs the most...but in this case I think he's got ya beat, not by much though, if he slips up you're good.

chevydrummer76
03-08-2005, 05:56 PM
the slowest mustangs ever??? try the 1970's mustang II's, a whole 130 hp out of a 302...or somewhere around there.

TheStang00
03-08-2005, 09:25 PM
the late 80's 302 only had 205...

TheStang00
03-08-2005, 09:26 PM
atleast thy fixed it now tho... bringin it into the 300 territiory.

dampachi
03-08-2005, 09:30 PM
Yeah, Twizted..I guess after you see a cars taillights so often you start to get sick of it, eh?

drftk1d
03-08-2005, 10:22 PM
ouchies.

CamaroSSBoy346
03-08-2005, 10:49 PM
lol. The late 80's 302's had 225 HP.

TheStang00
03-08-2005, 11:04 PM
oh well maybe... thats not what road&track said lol. i just read that today...

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 12:13 PM
Yeah, Twizted..I guess after you see a cars taillights so often you start to get sick of it, eh?

No Mustang has ever beat me, you forget I have a Formula 350.

dampachi
03-09-2005, 02:48 PM
You must only race V6s.

clawhammer
03-09-2005, 02:51 PM
You must only race V6s.
He only race DetroitMuscle. That's why a Mustang never beat him.

dampachi
03-09-2005, 02:52 PM
haha. owned.

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 04:17 PM
You must only race V6s.

what would make u think that? low 14 sec car vs 16 sec v6 stang...this is what you've concluded? odd. My car would probably run even or better with yours D, that is unless you have more mods than your cardomain site is saying.

dampachi
03-09-2005, 04:25 PM
GTs = low 14s, Mach 1s = Mid 13s, Cobras = 12s. And you said "I've never been beat by a mustang". Thus..you must only race V6s..since they, as you said..run 16s.

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 04:30 PM
GTs = low 14s, Mach 1s = Mid 13s, Cobras = 12s. And you said "I've never been beat by a mustang". Thus..you must only race V6s..since they, as you said..run 16s.


We're gonna do some algebra:

GTs = low 14s Lets call that X

My Formula 350 = low 14s Lets call that Y

X = Y So why wouldn't I be beating a GT? (don't forget we're talking 99+ GT's, the 98 and below are a joke)

chexmixa
03-09-2005, 04:34 PM
I failed algebra can we do english instead?

Once apon a time there was a 14 second formula 350, then came a mustang cobra and beat it in the quarter cause it runs 12s. The end.

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 04:36 PM
hmm...odd how you would throw in a car that we're not talking about...sounds like a noob move to me. I could just as easily say...once there was a Cobra, then along came a Mclaren F1 and beat it in the quarter cuz it runs 10's...plz dont be so ridiculous...then again u did fail algebra so i can understand if you dont get the whole idea here.

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 04:42 PM
I failed algebra can we do english instead?

Once apon a time there was a 14 second formula 350, then came a mustang cobra and beat it in the quarter cause it runs 12s. The end.

oh yeah and as long as we're doing English...it's upon not apon.

chexmixa
03-09-2005, 04:43 PM
hmm...odd how you would throw in a car that we're not talking about...sounds like a noob move to me. I could just as easily say...once there was a Cobra, then along came a Mclaren F1 and beat it in the quarter cuz it runs 10's...plz dont be so ridiculous...then again u did fail algebra so i can understand if you dont get the whole idea here.

Hey, that was just an example cause i wanted to hear a bead time story not solve complex equations. I was just poking fun at the fact that "no mustang has ever beat me" All though you are most likely telling the truth cause u could have never raced anything faster then a GT. BTW a cobra is considered a mustang even though it has a dif tranny bigger motor and a blower. :P

BTW what kind of formual 350 do u have? i am curious, is it your 3kgt? when i think formula 350 i think chevy but hey, i did after all fail algebra.

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 05:34 PM
Hey, that was just an example cause i wanted to hear a bead time story not solve complex equations. I was just poking fun at the fact that "no mustang has ever beat me" All though you are most likely telling the truth cause u could have never raced anything faster then a GT. BTW a cobra is considered a mustang even though it has a dif tranny bigger motor and a blower. :P

BTW what kind of formual 350 do u have? i am curious, is it your 3kgt? when i think formula 350 i think chevy but hey, i did after all fail algebra.

lol thanks for the info bud...now how could my 3S be a formula 350? thats a silly question...and if you think Chevy when you think Formula 350 then you definitely need to get some of your facts straight. I'll help ya out a little....3S = 3.0 (never 5.7L), and Formula 350 = Pontiac (never chevy). Nice try on being a smart ass though, apparantly algebra isn't the only thing ur not good at. ;)

chexmixa
03-09-2005, 05:43 PM
No need to bash me for not knowing what the hell a formual 350 is. I guess according to you everyone should know that. I mearly wanted to know what your formula 350 was. i mean for all i know formula 350 could of been some kind of baby formula. "here you go son a nice bottle of formula 350" Btw i was just playing around sorry if i came off as a smart as. Can we hold hands and be friends again?

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 05:57 PM
rofl baby formula 350, now thats funny. we can't hold hands but we can be cool lol

chexmixa
03-09-2005, 06:00 PM
rofl baby formula 350, now thats funny. we can't hold hands but we can be cool lol

How about best friends matching shirts with a rainbow and Best friends forever on them?

CamaroSSBoy346
03-09-2005, 06:06 PM
okay how about this. "Never lost to a Mustang" Is a broad, and stubbon statement. Lets forget that. And Chex, lets not talk about something you dont know anything about (The Formula 350). The End.

chexmixa
03-09-2005, 06:08 PM
okay how about this. "Never lost to a Mustang" Is a broad, and stubbon statement. Lets forget that. And Chex, lets not talk about something you dont know anything about (The Formula 350). The End.

My savior thank you for ending the arguement just in time what would i do without you??????

If u were trying to look cool there u failed 3kgt allready owned me and now were best friends for ever. I stated that i knew nothing about formula 350. i was mearly inquireing on his car. (sp i failed algebra and english) You were a lil l8 with the reply my man.

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 07:18 PM
LOL nice...and my statement wasn't broad...its the truth, I (ME) have never lost to a Mustang...of course i've raced only one from a 40 roll to about 110 and I had him by a car the whole way...

TheStang00
03-09-2005, 07:35 PM
all the details finally come out...

Twizted_3KGT
03-09-2005, 08:19 PM
and ur point is?

DetroitMuscle15
03-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Is a chipped Audi A4 1.8T faster than an A4 with the 2.7L V6

CassiesMan
03-09-2005, 09:34 PM
Is a chipped Audi A4 1.8T faster than an A4 with the 2.7L V6

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WTF?

dampachi
03-09-2005, 09:38 PM
Yeah...your low 14 second car is way faster than someone elses low 14 second car. :rolleyes:

Twizted_3KGT
03-10-2005, 12:36 AM
idk what ur thinking man...what would make you think that's what i was saying? they're about equal...that's what i meant by the "="...so drivers race. Different power bands, I have more torque, beat him off a roll...statistically it would be even through the 1/4...so unless all you race is v6's then dont try to say that's all i race.

dampachi
03-10-2005, 12:46 AM
..um. since when is what i race in question? Just so you know..I've raced everything from 4cyl foxes to kenne bell'd cobras...

Twizted_3KGT
03-10-2005, 06:47 PM
I read ur kills/deaths section in on ur cardomain, i know what you race, it's not in question. Whats in question is you trying to say i get beat by GT's and win to V6's...which is not the way it is. I'm just clarifying!!

CamaroSSBoy346
03-10-2005, 10:32 PM
Is a chipped Audi A4 1.8T faster than an A4 with the 2.7L V6

Uh, wrong thread buddy boy. BTW, I guess if all else fails in the Thunderbird, I could use the Camaro. But damn, a 98 GT vs 00 SS, its kinda like pickin on a retarded kit, just aint fair...

(j/k..I wanna run him in the T-Bird anyways, just to get a baseline of how well it (My car) performs. My goal is to atleast beat, if not, keep up with 99+ GT's...)

dampachi
03-10-2005, 11:36 PM
CamaroSSBoy...if you don't wanna use that SS I'll gladly take it from you :)

street_racer_00
03-11-2005, 01:59 AM
Is a chipped Audi A4 1.8T faster than an A4 with the 2.7L V6
I will be nice and do this one for you....the only "A4" that comes with a 2.7L V6 is the S4, and it's twin-turbo....puts out about 250 hp...you might be talking about the 2.8L I-6...actually, the 1.8T unchipped will put up a good fight to the 2.8L I-6 A4, because of the weight savings...a chipped 1.8T is faster than the 2.8L I-6...and if the chipped 1.8T in question is FWD and not AWD, it can ALMOST hang with the AWD S4, and will probably run doors with one from a roll...hope that answers your questions.

solaris=amazing
03-11-2005, 10:25 AM
CamaroSSboy, that camaro is bad man. I own the same exact one in gran turismo4...got it down to a 10.50 1/4 with nitrous.

BTW, i hope you smoke that mofo. I wish my 95 4.6 tbird was a 12 second car, cause everyone would be toast around me....ps....i just got creamed by a friggin jetta...i'll post up.

lickem
03-11-2005, 11:17 AM
1. wat the hell is a formula 350????


2. did the guy in the 98 gt say he beat a SS camaro?

3. i gotta lean towards the gt vs the thunderbird

Twizted_3KGT
03-11-2005, 04:42 PM
1. wat the hell is a formula 350????


2. did the guy in the 98 gt say he beat a SS camaro?

3. i gotta lean towards the gt vs the thunderbird


lost are ya?

1. It's a Firebird.

2. I think he said he beat an SS on his cardomain site b/c the guy was a bad driver, but he didn't say it on here.

dampachi
03-11-2005, 05:39 PM
wow..you own an f-body and don't know what a formula 350 is?

FormulaLT1
03-11-2005, 06:47 PM
Alot of people just call Formula's, Firebirds. Definetly not as popular as the Trans Am's although a Trans Am is really a firebird. Its considered to be its own model.

John

-The Stig-
03-11-2005, 07:27 PM
Done.

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