What can I get for $1500?

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what can i get for US$1500?

: chasing over SQL - approx. 60% SQ 40% SPL
: listens to hip-hop - hard bass hitting music, ludacris, lil john...
: a nissan X-terra - plenty of space
: enclosure type - ported/sealed/bandpass?
: not aiming at competition, just a competition between friends - vs. SPL's
: need design idea - 1 sub/2 sub?
: US$1500 for items only

thanks for recomendations!

EDIT: $1500 for items only. excluding enclosures ect...

Subs-1. 2 adire audio brahama 12 subs
2. 2 Re audio sx 12's

Amps for sub- 1. ED nine.1 amp
2. Hifonics bx1800d

Speakers- 1. Adire koda component set.
2. Cdt hs62x compnent set.

Box- Custom build ported.

HU- Alpine high end headunits

Might run allitle over 1500 depending on where you buy it from

whoa...
that was quick..
thanks fx.
oh btw... any recommendations on the Alpine HU products?

: chasing over SQL - approx. 60% SQ 40% SPL
: listens to hip-hop - hard bass hitting music, ludacris, lil john...


I'm confused....sound quality and that stuff you just listed are basically polar opposites

are you actually going for sound quality or just something that won't be constantly bottoming out and distorting?

oops..
yeah... that's what i mean.
not SQ i guess, i wanted a system that's just good quality with a balance of SQ and SPL.
'...just something that won't be constantly bottoming out and distorting.'
^ you've got it.

Subs= 3 DVC 10" SX10D4 Directed subs
Amp= d2400 Directed Audio digital amp with remote gain
Enclosure would could easily be either a sealed box @ about 1.5-2cu/ft or a ported box @ 2.25-3.5cu/ft being tuned to 35htz depending on what you really want this to hit the hardest at. You should have enough left over to buy a small amp and componet set for the fronts which will be very important so the system doesn't sound too back heavy.

What ever you do remember that the install and the enclosure are the 2 main important things that you can not over look. I hate it when I see people buy half decent stuff then through it all in with cheap wires and a prefab box. It almost never fails that they then ask me why "cheaper" system sounds so much better than theirs :cwm27:

umm... 3 subs? :D
i dont think that i wanted that much bass :D
i rather go with 2 subs and a balanced 2 sets of speakers...
but thanks for your tips though!

umm... 3 subs? :D
i dont think that i wanted that much bass :D
i rather go with 2 subs and a balanced 2 sets of speakers...
but thanks for your tips though!
Yeah but with the money I thought that would be a neat setup plus I saw what you like to listen to. 2 subs are plenty for me in my Liberty!!!!

so nutty...
you're saying that the items that you were recommending to me suits my music right? umm.. are directed audio better than adire audio or RE?

forgot another question. :D
i'm thinking of getting a Alpine - CDA 9833.
any thoughts or input?
maybe a recommendation?

PONCHO STFU!!!!!!!!!
U n3ed 2 g3t s0m3 reAl St3re0 1n y0' car!!111!!!
Directed Sux!!!!
100% pwned....

Looka single RE SX 18.... because you listen to mostly rap XBL^2 will just add to the cost for no extra SQ. so the SX will do fine, since it acutally has the ability to get louder than the XXX

Hifonics BX1800D
REaudio RE componet sets
Pheonix Gold Xenon 100.4
some sort of EQ

big ported tuned around 30Hz....

then upgrade the big 3 and maybe slap a new altinator under the hood....

oh and if you get hte componet set and you think you need some rear fill just get a mid quality coaxle and you'll be fine...

Screw an 18. Put 2 15's.

2 15's need twice the power....we are working on a buget....

umm.. are directed audio better than adire audio or RE?

no, not even close

so nutty...
you're saying that the items that you were recommending to me suits my music right? umm.. are directed audio better than adire audio or RE?
Well according to most that were at the SEMA show last month, yes. Now, you'll hear the same people on here tout adire or RE all day long. Personally, I do not like them because their setup is old school. Yes, they are low powered which is great but they usually need unusually large enclosures. Unless you want to have to mess with the rear suspension because of all the added weight, look for something that requires little space to sound good. I use to have a lot of locals talk shit about DEI until they heard what they are actually about. Same goes for the idiots on here. They've never actually heard a real DEI system but they'll play like they know what they are talking about.

Remember, no matter what you pick, the install is ALWAYS the key to an awesome sounding system.

DUDE SHUT THE FUCK UP you have never even played with RE and Adire...... DIRECTED SUCKS ASS....... jesus at least we have messed w. directed shit before saying what is better.....BTW FUCK Orion 2500d's...... IA 20.1's are almost out WOOOT!!!!!!

Omg Please Tell Paul Or Whoever Runns This Mofoe To Band This Fool Directed Obviously Suks, Stop Trying To Sell Your Products. No One Will Buy Them. Can We Have A Vote To Ban Him, Lol.

Why do all car audio shops wet their pants over rear suspension. If your stock suspension is in good condition, you don't need to worry about it.

2 15's need twice the power....we are working on a buget....

He's working with $1500. He can get two RE SX 15's and still have more than enough dough to power them and get his components.

Omg Please Tell Paul Or Whoever Runns This Mofoe To Band This Fool Directed Obviously Suks, Stop Trying To Sell Your Products. No One Will Buy Them. Can We Have A Vote To Ban Him, Lol.

No need for a ban. It would be nice if he'd stop pushing only Directed on all these people.

On an unrelated issue, why are you typing all your words capitalized?

Well according to most that were at the SEMA show last month, yes. Now, you'll hear the same people on here tout adire or RE all day long. Personally, I do not like them because their setup is old school. Yes, they are low powered which is great but they usually need unusually large enclosures. Unless you want to have to mess with the rear suspension because of all the added weight, look for something that requires little space to sound good. I use to have a lot of locals talk shit about DEI until they heard what they are actually about. Same goes for the idiots on here. They've never actually heard a real DEI system but they'll play like they know what they are talking about.

wow, I don't think I've ever seen so many blatant (and wrong) generalizations in one paragraph in my entire life.

1 - Only 4 models in Adire's entire lineup, and NONE of RE's models use that "old school" philosophy of high efficiency and great low end extension at the expense of box size

2 - The added weight BS goes along with #1, again ONLY 4 OF ADIRE'S MODELS need big boxes, and you know what's even funnier? A lot of the mainstream crap uses the same design, they just lie to you and tell you that they can use smaller boxes than they really can so you're happy with your small box and "high efficiency" sub (which now has a low efficiency and crappy low end due to your mismatched box). At least Adire actually tells you the correct box size instead of filling your head with marketing BS that's just blatantly wrong.

3 - You know absolutely nothing about me or any of the other people here, our past experiences, our knowledge about electronics and acoustics, or why we choose what we do. Please don't pretend like you do, you just make yourself look like a jackass.

Well according to most that were at the SEMA show last month, yes. Now, you'll hear the same people on here tout adire or RE all day long. Personally, I do not like them because their setup is old school. Yes, they are low powered which is great but they usually need unusually large enclosures. Unless you want to have to mess with the rear suspension because of all the added weight, look for something that requires little space to sound good. I use to have a lot of locals talk shit about DEI until they heard what they are actually about. Same goes for the idiots on here. They've never actually heard a real DEI system but they'll play like they know what they are talking about.

Remember, no matter what you pick, the install is ALWAYS the key to an awesome sounding system.

It still baffles me how you talk with Directed's cock shoved so far down your throat...

NG

Looka single RE SX 18.... because you listen to mostly rap XBL^2 will just add to the cost for no extra SQ. so the SX will do fine, since it acutally has the ability to get louder than the XXX

Yeah, surprised Mike didn't catch this one first...


THE ONLY RE SUB WITH XBL^2 out at this moment is the XXX. Nice try tho ;)

NG

My pick:
-Alpine 9833 via www.crutchfield.com (Authorized dealer, full warranty, wiring harness install needs included!)
-CDT EF61-cfi/25 Components via Authorized Dealer (aim: djdillliodon or e-email island sound1@yahoo.com Tell Don Ngsm13 sent you)
-Phoenix Gold Tantrum 500.2 (125 rms x 2 @4ohms to components, new via ebay or online store close-out)
Subs:
-One Incriminator Audio Death penalty (www.incriminatoraudio.com call for direct pricing)
-One Ascendant Audio Avalanche (www.ascendantaudio.com)
-One Soundsplinter Rl-p (www.soundsplinter.com)

Amplifiers:
Avionixx 1200.2 OR Viper 1200.1 OR Any amp that does around 1000rms @1ohm

Wiring: www.knukonceptz.com

Box: I design inexpensive lay-outs for custom ported enclosures, PM if you'd like to purchase one.

All this will be WELL under $1500 and it'll sound great and get loud. Good thing with my suggestion as well, you won't need to spend tons o' money on electrical system upgrades! Good luck, peace

NG

THE ONLY RE SUB WITH XBL^2 out at this moment is the XXX. Nice try tho ;)

He actually was indirectly saying the SX doesn't sport the XBL^2 which is why he was saying he won't need the XXX line which is a lot more expensive.

Not trying to jump on you, just trying to stick up for Fry. He takes a beating in these forums :(.

If he would just learn to spell LMAO.....he's commin around tho Ponchonutty is the ass raping reciever of the forums now...... BTW poncho.....right here I proceeded to write for ever just ripping poncho a new one but I deleted it..... I'm not gunna rip him one right now cuz I'm in a good mood and he's just reccomending what he likes..... whoever said he was tryin to sell shit....nah just reccomending it so don't play it off like he thinks its just junk tryin to make some money...... I was guilty of it at one time too tellin' everyone I knew to get Audiobahns...... Now Poncho I've been nice for a change so y don't u drive down here and get your ears blown away by some RE.

one rather silly question though...
why not use JL and such?
overpriced is it?
umm... i can get JL products very cheaply.
12JLW6V2 for US$200.
and compared to XXX 12" or brahmas 12" does the 12JLW6V2 on par with it concerning my type of music?

one rather silly question though...
why not use JL and such?
JL is another good choice

overpriced is it?
very

umm... i can get JL products very cheaply.
12JLW6V2 for US$200.
And compared to XXX 12" or brahmas 12" does the 12JLW6V2 on par with it concerning my type of music?
it's not as good, it has the sound quality but not the output. The brahma and xxx are more on par with the w7, the w6v2 is around the adire koda's territory. But still, $200 is a great price, if that's new then I would do it. The w6v2 and the w7 are the only JL subs I wouldn't mind owning.

THE ONLY RE SUB WITH XBL^2 out at this moment is the XXX. Nice try tho ;)




well at least threedd97 got what i was saying.

to break it down for thoes who dont know about what XBL^2 does....
The SX doesnt have XBL^2...
XBL^2 will only give a marginal SQ difference over your regular coildand single magnetic feild design if you listen tomusic that was created by an instrament, percusion, etc... well at least in the low end, up high it can make a marginal difference unless all you listen to is computergenerated techno.... because he says he mostly listens to Rap, Hip-Hop, etc... the music is mostly ocmptuergenerated, especially in the lower end...they dont record someone beating on a drum for the most part. and because what makes rap good is pounding away really loud....well most just wont tell the differnce between the too, some even say XBL^2 can make the notes too clear.
THus why i recomended the SX.... not only can it be slightly louder than the XXX but it has great SQ. just not as flat of a BL curve as the XXX which means at high excurison instances it will be slightly less precise when compared to the XXX... plus it will be cheaper than the XXX because RE doesnt have to pay adire for them to sell it....

its ok, i can understand where the mix up came with...

oh, as for the spelling, im planning on going to college to become a Chemical Engineer....as long as you can half way understand what i wrote and on important documents i can use spell check...im good....and i still start off a 50k a year in the Orlando area.... :lol:
but i still try to keep it as gramatically correct as possible... :banghead:

but i still try to keep it as gramatically correct as possible... :banghead:

eh? That was a REALLY hard paragraph to understand...and not technically all correct. I really don't get what you're TRYING to say about xbl^2...but it's all cool! peace

NG

ok ok
XBL is great for rock, jazz, alternative, well really all types of music...but really shows no improvement in the rap/technobass area...

your regular voice coil and single magnetic feild can be good to great (great with alot of time and engineering put into it) for rock and all but it is equal with computer generated bass lines...

thats in non mombo jumbo chris fryman speak....

ok ok
XBL is great for rock, jazz, alternative, well really all types of music...but really shows no improvement in the rap/technobass area...

your regular voice coil and single magnetic feild can be good to great (great with alot of time and engineering put into it) for rock and all but it is equal with computer generated bass lines...

thats in non mombo jumbo chris fryman speak....

No, I'm just saying I know what i'm talking about, and when i read some of your stuff I find it hard separating fact from made up Chris Fryman mumbo-jumbo...

NG

PS: still doesn't work out, but you don't have to say anything else...

one rather silly question though...
why not use JL and such?
overpriced is it?
umm... i can get JL products very cheaply.
12JLW6V2 for US$200.
and compared to XXX 12" or brahmas 12" does the 12JLW6V2 on par with it concerning my type of music?
Well, a while ago I use to carry JL and I had a high return rate where the surround would come apart from the basket. Yes, they would fix it under warranty but customers would be pissed having to wait for their subs to come back only to find that they would usually do it again.

Also, at the same time, DEI aquired Orion and released a new line. They sent me some free product to try out and I loved it so I dropped JL and took on Orion. Oh, to answer your question, yes I feel they are a little overpriced. It's great that they are hand made here in the states though.

B-stang, thanks for being civilized this time. Yes, I would be more than happy to meet up sometime. Usually a few times a year I am in Columbus and Cinci for product and license testing. Didn't you say you were in Cinci? Anyway maybe we can meet up then. In the meantime, once I find an enclosure that I like enough to replicate in fiberglass, I'll finish the Jeep. Unfortunately I ran into a problem with it. Somehow I cracked the windshield when playing around with the current set up. Well, got the glass replaced and the bone heads screwed it up and now all my stuff is wet!!!!!

As far as the rest of you little boys, I love to read you flamming me. It shows how little you actually know and how you have to lean on people like B-stang for your knowlege.

let me know I live in cinci and Im frm columbus and can go there anytime

As far as the rest of you little boys, I love to read you flamming me. It shows how little you actually know and how you have to lean on people like B-stang for your knowlege.

you just love proving me right don't you?

like I said, you know nothing about the people here, you think you do, but you don't know the first thing

yea dude sr20 knows a lot more then me about MOST things car audio related....esp. components and HU's

Ya, and I know waaaay more than the both of them put together :bricks1:

Seriously, who cares who knows more. As long as this guys question is answered...

Did you take me seriously?

Did you take me seriously?

No, it wasn't directed at you. :P

Manny my arse hairs no more about car audio then u!!

let me know I live in cinci and Im frm columbus and can go there anytime
Cool. I know there's some sort of thing going on in May or June but I don't need to go to that. There's usually another one late in summer so I'll keep you in mind.

Yeah, I use to live in Col. when I was going to OSU and also when I worked at Mobile Electronics. That's were I got the bug to do this sort of thing. If you ever get a chance to stop at their shop, do it. They've got a nice retail setup.

I don't like mobile eletronics they fuck ppls shit up and do bad jobs.

I don't like mobile eletronics they fuck ppls shit up and do bad jobs.

Well...i don't like you!

NG

wtf ur supposed to be dead from bass arse no go back to dead.

Manny my arse hairs no more about car audio then u!!

Quit it with your damn Arabic slang!!!!! v6=ghey :lol2:

v6=ghey :lol2:
:chair:

Love it

Hey now....i have a v6.... of course my truck isnt sapposed to be perfomance oriented either....

Neh, your truck is fine. cause they dont make a v8 version for yours. Shit I have a 4. It's all good n joking though

V-6>I-4......Mustang>Ricer......Sports Car>Compact foreign wannabe sports car ......My hand>Ur Ass\and since poncho had to laugh EVerything Else>Jeep

V-6>I-4......Mustang>Ricer......Sports Car>Compact foreign wannabe sports car ......My hand>Ur Ass\and since poncho had to laugh EVerything Else>Jeep


pffft....my I-4 Ricer Compact foreign wannabe sports car will kick your ass j00

yeah well id bet money that my shit wouldnt even keep up with any of your cars so HA

0-60 in about 30 minutes and 10 mpg. stupid busted ass ford.

awwww.... I like my little ricer... 30+ mpg is nice, and it's peppy enough for now (0-60 in like 12 when I push it). I just need a new alternater, I think. My headlights dim when I put in clutch and let rpms go to idle (~1100)! I haven't even hooked up the amp yet.... I'll have to ask more extensivly on how to do that big three electrical upgrade and the alternator when the time comes.

V-6>I-4......Mustang>Ricer......Sports Car>Compact foreign wannabe sports car ......My hand>Ur Ass\and since poncho had to laugh EVerything Else>Jeep
Funny thing is that I'd almost bet my Jeep would actually get you. It's faster than my Silverado but it can't get my '72 Trans Am. Of course, not much can. There's no replacement for displacement. 455 cubes of power on a 4sp tranny. Boy is it fun!

Funny thing is that I'd almost bet my Jeep would actually get you. It's faster than my Silverado but it can't get my '72 Trans Am. Of course, not much can. There's no replacement for displacement. 455 cubes of power on a 4sp tranny. Boy is it fun!

Exactly why American made cars are better than foreign cars. Raw power, nothing beats it.

Exactly why American made cars are better than foreign cars. Raw power, nothing beats it.

a 72 trans am?

I'd guess that would run 14's, even with "raw power" it still weighs a shitload. Know what 14's means? A stock Nissan Altima could easily keep up, if not beat it....now what were you saying? :)

V-6>I-4......Mustang>Ricer......Sports Car>Compact foreign wannabe sports car ......My hand>Ur Ass\and since poncho had to laugh EVerything Else>Jeep

1. My "ricer" beats your "Mustang Sports Car"- Sorry but its the hard truth

2. v6 mustangs rn't sport cars, my "ricer" that does .94G's on the skid pad is greater than most real sport cars out there.

3. HERE GOES THE TRAMA

2002 Jeep Liberty 4x4!= 1/4: 16.8 , 0-60: 8.9

96 Mustang 3.8= 1/4: 17.3 , 0-60: 9.9

99 Mustang convertable 3.8 > yours= 1/4: 16.5 , 0-60: 8.6

STOCK 94 Integra ls= 1/4: 16.0, 0-60: 7.6

So, to summarize, His Jeep is probably quicker, by a full second. And IF my car was STOCK, which it is def. not, I still rape you. I couldnt imagine what it would be like now. I'll let that soak in :iceslolan

P.S, I love nissans, great choice SR!

well considering his jeeo is an auto and I got a 5 speed......and can power shift pretty damn well...... There shouldn't be a problem..... And ya know what your ricer is still rice!!!! nit to mentiont he fact that I prolly only paid half for my car of what you did.

$2500...you paid 1250 for your car? You forgot, i work at a car dealership

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