Land Rover or Hummer

Ok, Say you were to go on the most ridiculous and hardcore off-road trip one could ever think of. If you were to choose the most standard off-road vehicle between Hummer and Land Rover, whether it be the H1 or the H2 (pffffft, who would take one of those lol), or a Land Rover Defender, Discovery, Freelander, Range Rover, or LR3, which would you choose? Oh, and they have to be standard and stock as can be, except maybe for snorkels and stuff but nothing else. And any version of the Humvee is not an option.

Me, I would choose basically any Land Rover, because they're all capable of doing some hardcore stuff off-road. plus post-1995, when the P38A body came out of the new Range Rover, Land Rover's were built by BMW, so their reliablity and quality is no question. But I would choose any of the models in Land Rover.

I'm pretty sure with this info, so correct me if I am wrong, I would really like to make sure my info is correct. :)

Defender 90 for me...one of the most capable off road vehicles ever...

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~randy/defender.jpg

Oh yeah. The Defender 90 is the way to go. In green. Very British. I hate to throw in a choice that wasn't incuded, but I also like the original Landcruiser. Even the ones from the mid nineties were pretty cool looking.

pffft..... if i was going hardcore, my choice of vehicle would begin with the letters LM.

A Hummer and not the H2 for any reason.













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pffft..... if i was going hardcore, my choice of vehicle would begin with the letters LM.
Lambo LM002?

http://www.timpelen.com/images/cars/lm_002.jpg

I wonder how many gallons to the mile that thing will do :D

Lambo LM002?

http://www.timpelen.com/images/cars/lm_002.jpg

I wonder how many gallons to the mile that thing will do :D

Never saw one of those before....

I'll take a Hummer H1.
Please tell me you're kidding about Land Rover reliability. Land Rovers are among the least reliable vehicles on the road, and on top of that they are incredibly expensive to repair and maintain.
http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=10668

I'd take the land rover. It has a higher pimp factor plus very decent offroad capabilities.

Consumer reports rates them all and makes an average. Then they plot all of the vehicles by a percentage better or worse than average.

Just so you know, the Land Rovers rated exactly 177% worse than average in reliability. That's not a typo... 177%.

The H2 is a glorified suburban that has cheap wavy body panels, the power to weight ratio of a Corolla, and legendary GM reliability (which consumer reports rated a mere 74% worse than average) I don't know about anyone else, but the day I pay $60,000 for a vehicle, I at least want to be able to see my reflection in the paint, not have wavy, vibrating body panels.

The H1 is still not the greatest on reliability, but at least its not based on GM's design. It is an excellent off roader. Don't get me wrong, the Rover is also excellent off-road, but if you want a competent ON-road car, look in an entirely different direction.

I'm poor so I would probly go jeep. lol

a real hummer would be nice. But I wouldnt get with in 5 feet of an h2 unless I had to pee. :p

I'd go with a Hummer, not an H2 unless it was given to me. Has anyone seen the H3 yet? I saw one at the Chicage Auto Show. VERY big disapointment. Practically a station wagon. Mechanically, it's pretty close to a Colorado.

I would have to take an H1. H2's are actually pretty good offroad but like curtis said, they are a cheaply made, glorified suburban. Plus you will get a lot more respect driving an H1, too many soccer moms drive H2's. Plus an H1 is much more rare.

Just so you know, the Land Rovers rated exactly 177% worse than average in reliability. That's not a typo... 177%.

A lot of that is due to the Freelander, which scores very poorly in reliability surveys (yet most owners still say they'd buy another one - badge snobs). I don't recall reading anything bad about the Defender's reliability record :dunno:

Ok, Say you were to go on the most ridiculous and hardcore off-road trip one could ever think of.If you were to choose the most standard off-road vehicle

Jeep Wrangler Rubicon of course. No other 'stock' vehicle can traverse off-road courses like it. Plus, I'd be saving about $20,000 over the other two.

I thought Land Rovers were of better quality post-1994/1995 after the debut of the P38A Range Rover, 'cuz I thought they were built by BMW. BUt is that only for the Range Rover and not the Defender, Freeland and Discovery?

the LM, last i heard it does about 7mpg.....
and to think it lost the contract to the humvee.

anyway.
the new land rovers, discovery and range rover are nigh on indestructible.
the old freelanders were a piece of poo that people bought because of radical (for the class) design and the badge.
the top end vehicles from land rover were, are and always will be the only REAL deal off-road vehicle.

Of the choices listed I would go with the H1 all the way, but if it was something under $100k I'd pick the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

You don't actually think BMW gave a shit about Rover, MG or Land Rover do you? They didn't, Ican't think of a single BMW component used in Land Rovers bar everything used in the 2001- Range Rover.

Ford are going to be good for Land Rover though, they made the Jaguar XJ series reliable, so the Discovery and Range Rover will fare well.

I'd have a Mercedes Geladnewagen if I was going anywhere offroad, though. Way better than Hummers and Landies.

I always thought that the Land Rovers, since the P38A debut had the BMW 740i engine in it, then the new Range Rover (MKIII) had the 745i engine it it, along with many similar electronics. I was in both a P38A and an MKIII and The P38A engine sounded alot like the 740i, and the LED displays and the button prinintgs looked alot like BMW, and plus I can tell autmoatically that the MKIII shared electrics and engines with BMW because of the Navigation design, the whole setup, the LED displays, and the button markings looked the same exact as found in a 2001 bmw 7-series

I always thought that the Land Rovers, since the P38A debut had the BMW 740i engine in it, then the new Range Rover (MKIII) had the 745i engine it it, along with many similar electronics. I was in both a P38A and an MKIII and The P38A engine sounded alot like the 740i, and the LED displays and the button prinintgs looked alot like BMW, and plus I can tell autmoatically that the MKIII shared electrics and engines with BMW because of the Navigation design, the whole setup, the LED displays, and the button markings looked the same exact as found in a 2001 bmw 7-series

The Range rover does not use the 745 engine, it uses a regular 4.4(non Valvetronic), still an awesome motor though.

Yes, the Current Range Rover is BMW designed, used a BMW engine until recently, uses a BMW NAV, the whole schtick.

However that said, for going off road, The Hummer hands down, It is built to be hardcore and rugged and it does that with a passion.

For everyday drivng the Range though.

http://www.autoshow.ro/images/wallpaper/hummer%20h1_800.jpg
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/stereo.over.30k/04.hummer.h1.500.jpg
http://www.adventureproject.de/bilder/messen/range/12.jpg
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/04409011990001LRG.jpg