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jdrumstik
02-15-2005, 02:33 PM
Hi, I was wounderign Im looking at buying a 2001 CHP (highway patrol) P71. I understand that they have 5 speed autos, and then ta 220hp v8 or so. But I was woundering how fast they were in quarter mile times, and 0-60s. I imagine they are better than most cars, but not the best either, especially considering they have v8s.

Chrome_Rust
02-15-2005, 04:06 PM
there are a few things to know about the p71. they dont have 5 speed tranny's. they have fords 4-speed 4r70w tranny. 0-60 times are around mid 7's and the qtr times are in the high 15's low 16's.

jdrumstik
02-16-2005, 11:46 AM
hold up, I thought that they got five speeds for the police force?


Anyways, thanks for the specs, 16s is pretty slow, but then again, I wounder what my 135hp honda prelude from 1988 is actually doing.

ModMech
02-16-2005, 12:36 PM
There is really no appreciable difference between a police cruiser and a regular old Lincoln Town Car or Mercury Grand Marquis in power or performance. Give or take 0.30s in the 1/4, one is just as quick as the other. They have EXACTLY the same engines, transmissions rear ends etc in them. The gearing varies by model and year, but they are all very similar.

The real differences in the CVPI is the frame, electricals,features and options for the departments to tailor the cars for their use.

Really, a CVPI is basically a stripped down version of a CVLX/Town Car/ Grand Marquis with some lights, a cage, and antennea on it.

jdrumstik
02-16-2005, 09:17 PM
thats too bad, I was under the impression that they were something special!

Oh well, I'd still prefer it over a FWD car any day. But still, I wounder how much I could improve on that engine, I imagine a few basic upgrades would help it out a little. Well, maybe I need to look at other options.

amo4387622
02-16-2005, 09:20 PM
jdrumstik Police package Crown Vics come with a bullit proof 5 speed trany and a 4.6 engine but with a little more power than you would get on a stock Crown Vic at the dealer. But when the highway patrol and police departments decide to sell there cars they put the stock 4 speed trany back in the car. They also reflash the computer and put the speed limiter back on. I know this for a fact because when i was in high school i took a field trip to are local police department and when we got to check out the cars they used the officer told me all of this.

ModMech
02-17-2005, 03:34 AM
amo,

That info is all incorrect. You CANNOT even put a manual trans in a CVPI, the parts are not there nor are they available. The computers are exactly the same with VERY MINOR programming differences (top speed for one). The engines make the SAME power as all other CV/GM/TC cars with dual exhaust (Sport, HPP etc).

theFREAKnasty82
02-17-2005, 05:49 AM
amo,

That info is all incorrect. You CANNOT even put a manual trans in a CVPI, the parts are not there nor are they available. The computers are exactly the same with VERY MINOR programming differences (top speed for one). The engines make the SAME power as all other CV/GM/TC cars with dual exhaust (Sport, HPP etc).

I agree w/ you ModMech, I used to work for a police department maintaining cruisers and I drove several of them to either the local tire shop or what have you; anyway, they came with a 4.6 w/ dual exhaust and the 4R70W tranny. The only real difference between that and stock is that police packages have (well used to have on older crown vics) is that they didn't have manual low only manual second; now those cruisers have drive, overdrive cancel switch, second and first. Other than beefed up suspensions and run flat tires, they're only slightly modified from stock.

cobradude360
02-17-2005, 04:40 PM
thats crazy a manual trans in a crown vic i mean come on so what ur saying is theres basicly no differnce performance wise from pi and regular crown vics

amo4387622
02-17-2005, 05:48 PM
First my info is all correct i got the info from three different police officers that work at the station. I also called Ford to see what is the difference with Crowns with the police package and the dealer told me already what i knew. And it is not a manual trans it is an 5 speed auto.

theFREAKnasty82
02-17-2005, 07:50 PM
that maybe true on newer '05 models, but the ones I used to work on at the police station I worked for had 4-speed trannys. In fact, I have the sales code for that: Sales code 720A Police Interceptor/Base Pref Equip Pkg 720A.........All Vehicles.........28.00 Invoice/30.00 Retail....Includes vehicle w/ Crown Victoria standard equipment plus hub caps, 78-AH Heavy Duty Battery, heavy duty suspension, front & rear springs, shock asorbers & stabilizer bar, heavy duty frame & steering gear, heavy duty alternator, light bar connector, police accessory feed wires, dual exhaust, engine oil, transmission oil, power steering oil coolers, 0-140 MPH speedometer, P225/60VR16 All-Season BSW tires/conventional spare; 3.27 rear axle ratio w/ non-locker axle, remote deck lid release, 3 1/2" aluminum driveshaft, unique calibration w/ increased idle speed, lower radiator air dam, courtesy lamp wiring, conventional headliner w/o grab handles, engine compartment light, front cloth bcuket seats w/ power lumbar & weapons cut-outs & single key locking plus color keyed retail body side moldings, rear applique w/ color keyed panels, "Crown Victoria" badge, color keyed mirrors, Chrome grill, fascia inserts, door handle bezel & tail lamp applique & full wheel covers. Those were the options available for 2003 Crown Victoria police cars. They only made 224 hp w/ single exhaust, but the dual exhaust pushed horsepower up 15 to 239.

bobcoop06
02-17-2005, 09:41 PM
First my info is all correct i got the info from three different police officers that work at the station. I also called Ford to see what is the difference with Crowns with the police package and the dealer told me already what i knew. And it is not a manual trans it is an 5 speed auto.

I'm afraid you are wrong good buddy! Taken straight from the Ford website, here are all of the features of the '05 CVPI...


200-amp generator (provides additional electrical capacity for police equipment)
Air conditioning
Aluminum drive shaft
Audio - Standard stereo delete
Axle (Choice of 3.27 Non-Limited Slip Axle or 3.55 Limited Slip Axle)
Battery saver
Body-on-frame, RWD construction
Conventional spare tire
Engine - 4.6L 250-hp SEFI V8 with overhead cam
Engine, power steering and transmission oil coolers
Fail-safe engine cooling system
Floor covering - Heavy-duty rubber
Front and rear stabilizer bars
Fuel tank - 19-gallon capacity
Heavy-duty suspension and frame
Light bar connector
Mirrors - Power sideview
Seats - Cloth bucket with driver's-side power lumbar support (vinyl rear seat)
Speed-sensitive, variable-assist, power rack-and-pinion steering
Stainless steel dual exhaust
Tilt steering wheel
Transmission - Automatic 4-speed
Wheels - 16" steel
Windows - Power


https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2005fleetshowroom/2005-CrVicPoliceInt.asp

bmnlsc
02-17-2005, 11:38 PM
First my info is all correct i got the info from three different police officers that work at the station. I also called Ford to see what is the difference with Crowns with the police package and the dealer told me already what i knew. And it is not a manual trans it is an 5 speed auto.

I am calling BS on this one....

First off, I am Supervisory Federal Agent for ICE. I have been a fed since 1990. I have driven just about every type of law enforcement vehicle, that were produced from Ford, Chevy and Dodge. My agency has the Ford P71 CV's and Taurus' (civilian), the Police Package Chevy Impalas, Tahoes, Surbubans and Civilian package CK 15 pax carrying vans, and lastly we have the Police Package Dodge Intrepids (primarily used in NYC).

There are no special tranny's, nor power adders in the drive train in any of these vehicles. The only thing they will have, if a Police Package will be the standard coolers (tranny/oil), heavy duty suspension parts, wheels, etc.

I have been around the world, three times at least. I have been on various task forces, throughout NY, NJ, PA, CT, AR, CA, GA and FL. None of the cars I have driven issued to the various agencies (local and federal), had anything special other than what the manufacturer offered in their police packages.

Another example - I have a co-worker who in his prior years before transferring to my agency was CA Highway Patrolman. Prior to coming to NY, he purchased one of their P71's and drives it daily now. There is nothing special with his P71, as compared to my agency issued P71.

I would like to know which Ford Dealership you are talking too. I can tell you as a boss within my agency, I have a say as to which vehicles my agents drive, and being a major gearhead (see sig), I would ensure my office would get the fastest P71 made.... :naughty:

Sorry to bust your bubble, but unless that Police agency is making the changes to the drivetrain, which I seriously doubt due to warranty issues from Ford, that would be the only way.

Would love to get a vin number off one your police buddies vehicles.

Now let's talk about US Customs...they "may" use vehicles that were siezed during raids. In NY, they drive anything from Corvettes to Escorts. A friend of mine in NYC Customs drives a Beretta, of all cars, which is hooked up with lights and sirens...go figure.

Peace,
BMN

jdrumstik
02-18-2005, 12:15 AM
hmmm. Well I have hear dmay times about these bullet proof five speed autos. Also about the high prefromance ECU Chips. So whats the real deal here?

ModMech
02-18-2005, 10:17 AM
The CVPI have a FOUR SPEED auto, and have since the mid '80s, NO optional transmission is available. The current cars ALL use production 4R70W transmissions, the same trans since 1995.

There are NO "chips" installed in the EEC. There are a very few departments that use some form of "chip", but NONE are factory. All factory EECs are programmed basically the same. The only real difference between a CVPI EEC and a civilian one is that the CVPI idles faster, does not have "PATS", and is programmed to allow exteneded idle periods w/o ruining the catalysts. Now, the CVPI has a higher top speed than many other Crown Vic models, but it is also LOWER than some other panther models (Marauder and CV Sport).

BWB
02-19-2005, 10:46 PM
Why do some P71's have interceptor molding on deck lid and others no molding,

ModMech
02-19-2005, 10:54 PM
All '98 up CVPIs have the "Police Interceptor" moulding on the left decklid UNLESS they are equipped with the "Street Appearance Package", or have been damaged and it was not replaced (very common). Also, they can be removed by mechanical car-wash brushes if they are caught "just so".

bobcoop06
02-20-2005, 10:41 PM
All '98 up CVPIs have the "Police Interceptor" moulding on the left decklid UNLESS they are equipped with the "Street Appearance Package", or have been damaged and it was not replaced (very common). Also, they can be removed by mechanical car-wash brushes if they are caught "just so".

I thought it was '99 and up? Our local PD has 4 '98's and none of them have one, and I know the are all P71's...

ModMech
02-20-2005, 11:52 PM
Bob,

I guess I really do not know for SURE the '98s had them from the factory, but I have seen '98s with the "PI" badging.

I would like to add, that there is a list of features for the CVPI posted above, and while it is completely accurate, it is also misleading. MOST ALL of those features are ALSO on ALL civilian versions. There are precious few "police only" options on a "standard" CVPI, as I recall fewer then 10 items that are turely unique to the CVPI.

Chrome_Rust
02-21-2005, 02:16 PM
The CVPI have a FOUR SPEED auto, and have since the mid '80s, NO optional transmission is available. The current cars ALL use production 4R70W transmissions, the same trans since 1995.

There are NO "chips" installed in the EEC. There are a very few departments that use some form of "chip", but NONE are factory. All factory EECs are programmed basically the same. The only real difference between a CVPI EEC and a civilian one is that the CVPI idles faster, does not have "PATS", and is programmed to allow exteneded idle periods w/o ruining the catalysts. Now, the CVPI has a higher top speed than many other Crown Vic models, but it is also LOWER than some other panther models (Marauder and CV Sport).


As an owner of a 1996 P71, i can say that first all the people that have quoted from ford website are correct.

Second, there are a few people that have swapped T-5's or T-45 in the CVPI's...check out www.crownvic.net for more info about that

third in 1999 there was no speed limit in the p71's, an oops by ford...

forth, there is significant programming differences in the ECU, namely shift points and firmness, and there are some minor fuel programming diferences.

fifth, a my 1996 CVPI is faster then my buddies 1996 CVLX, 0-60, the 1320, and what non. both cars were stock at the time except mine had flowmasters and his was a dual exaust conversion from a P71.

with the transmission, if you leave it in first, it will shift into second at redline and damn near snap your neck when it shifts, put in it second and it will take off in second, drive is just that 1-2-3....then there is the over drive lockout.

any questions about the 1992-current CVPI's let me know....

tkhilliard
02-21-2005, 06:19 PM
question for ya, or all yall, what are the shift points for your cars in MPH? my buddies 96 p71 will hold 1st gear when its floored till about 42 mph. my 93 p71 will hold till about 52mph. no one beleives me but she will. we raced and i whooped his ass. his runs awesome, and has less miles that mine. but mine holds gears so much longer and has alot of gettup and go for a car its size. its all stock as far as i know. the numbers match and i had my tranny flushed a year ago and the dealership said its all original.
im not so sure about them being pretty much the same (p71 and lx or base) my aunt has a 03 Lx and mine has a hell of a lot more pep than hers does.

ModMech
02-22-2005, 03:43 AM
Chrome,

While you are of course correct about the fact that there are definately programming differences, I hardly consider them to be "significant", especially when the HPP and Sport models share mostly identicle programming (except for top speed). The changes in shift points are really very small, on the order of 150-200 RPM in almost every case.

Chrome_Rust
02-22-2005, 11:22 AM
Chrome,

While you are of course correct about the fact that there are definately programming differences, I hardly consider them to be "significant", especially when the HPP and Sport models share mostly identicle programming (except for top speed). The changes in shift points are really very small, on the order of 150-200 RPM in almost every case.

150 - 200 rpm can be signficant. like the difference between shifting at redline and banging redline for a few mili-seconds.

P.S. i apologize for my lack of proper spelling. but hey, you got the drift...:D

Pat_OD
03-15-2005, 07:24 PM
bah, the crown vic p71 is a joke, all police cars nowdays are a joke for christs sake stock economy imports can whoop the shit outta the 2 main police cars (crown vic & impala). Its really pathetic and makes me sad, honestly. They need to start bringing back cruisers like the caprice 9c1. Only thing going for cops today is that people are scared shitless of getting near or passing the cars.

cobradude360
03-15-2005, 09:50 PM
did he just say what i think he said?

Pat_OD
03-15-2005, 10:17 PM
ummm yea i think i did, i would know cause a friend of mine who owns a 2001 P71 told me when he raced a guys stock honda accord V6 and was left in the dust around 120. Dont get me wrong i love the look of the car and its got a decent powertrain but the fucking thing needs to be balls to the wall fast if its going to be an interceptor. i'm the only one who sees this? I also got a friend that installed a vortech supercharger as well as a computer chip and flowmaster dual exhaust(this thing fucking moves).......wait were u talking about my import or caprice reference? Cause you seriously cant say that the 9c1 caprice isn't one of the best police cruisers ever made.

cobradude360
03-15-2005, 10:37 PM
nono dont get me wrong i love the caprice and the impalla for that matter the 95 body style wow was that hot

cobradude360
03-15-2005, 10:39 PM
good point bout the passing but i think that a ricer like an accord couldnt beat a crown vic pi

Pat_OD
03-15-2005, 11:02 PM
it was a newer one. the new nissan altima & maxmia haul ass as well as the new accord i've been in one up to 140 still had some juice left. But anyway i'd take a vic over a ricer anyday of the week.

Chrome_Rust
03-16-2005, 08:14 AM
it was a newer one. the new nissan altima & maxmia haul ass as well as the new accord i've been in one up to 140 still had some juice left. But anyway i'd take a vic over a ricer anyday of the week.


you saved yourself there.....:D anyway where i live there isnt an import that can even touch my vic. trust me they all try to race me everytime we are at a stop light just cause i have a flowmaster sticker on the rear quarter glass. the new impala's get left in the dust, the caprices get me off the line, and to about the 1/8th mile, but after the 4.6 gets moving it is all over. Buddy of mine had an 89 mustang LX 5.0, beat me to 100 everytime, after that i was comming, and fast...(i have a DR ECU...no more top speed) passed him at 130 like he was nothing...stop by sometime, and i will take you for a ride in a fast car...

backyard_mech420
03-16-2005, 10:25 AM
bah, the crown vic p71 is a joke, all police cars nowdays are a joke for christs sake stock economy imports can whoop the shit outta the 2 main police cars (crown vic & impala). Its really pathetic and makes me sad, honestly. They need to start bringing back cruisers like the caprice 9c1. Only thing going for cops today is that people are scared shitless of getting near or passing the cars.

The Police are hardly concerned with having the fastest cars on the road.They go with the crown vic & impala because of their ability to run at high speeds for extended periods of time,as well as their interior comfort level,trunk storage space,and performance upgrade options.Even with the fastest import tuner out there,you may be able to out accelerate the police vics,but your still not gonna be able to get away from them.Come to my town's track and bring me any of your stock or tuned import ricers out there and I'll bet you $$$ my 87 Vic LX 5.0 will leave their jap cars as well as their egos in the dust in the Quarter Mile,but then again I am far above stock.

way2old
03-16-2005, 02:26 PM
As an owner of a 1996 P71, i can say that first all the people that have quoted from ford website are correct.

Second, there are a few people that have swapped T-5's or T-45 in the CVPI's...check out www.crownvic.net for more info about that

third in 1999 there was no speed limit in the p71's, an oops by ford...

forth, there is significant programming differences in the ECU, namely shift points and firmness, and there are some minor fuel programming diferences.

fifth, a my 1996 CVPI is faster then my buddies 1996 CVLX, 0-60, the 1320, and what non. both cars were stock at the time except mine had flowmasters and his was a dual exaust conversion from a P71.

with the transmission, if you leave it in first, it will shift into second at redline and damn near snap your neck when it shifts, put in it second and it will take off in second, drive is just that 1-2-3....then there is the over drive lockout.

any questions about the 1992-current CVPI's let me know....

I work on a fleet of over 700 CV's and we have some 99's that DO have a limiter in them. Matter of fact, all our 99's have it. They are all programmed to shut fuel off at 126 MPH. So, guess there goes that theory.

Chrome_Rust
03-16-2005, 05:06 PM
were they P71's? if not then there go that theroy....

way2old
03-16-2005, 07:18 PM
Yes they are. All our CV's are P71

Pat_OD
03-17-2005, 12:49 AM
i totally get what ur sayin about them being able to run for a while at high speeds but come on man they need to bring back cars like the caprice.

Chrome_Rust
03-17-2005, 08:11 AM
Yes they are. All our CV's are P71


then you are just confused....

way2old
03-17-2005, 10:13 AM
then you are just confused....
Never said I wasn't confused. Just said our 99 CV's have a fuel cut off programmed in the PCM. I probably am confused but, hey, I work for a local government facility. Sometime the confusion helps. :banghead:

Chrome_Rust
03-17-2005, 10:17 AM
yea, i am probably confused also...:D but i know somewhere that all the 99's didnt have a speed limiter....lemme check on it....

theFREAKnasty82
03-21-2005, 12:15 AM
I don't understand why a police cruiser would need a speed limiter, doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I could see if you want to protect the life of the officer, then yes, but if I'm correct, don't officers get extensive traning on how to drive their cars and handle them even at high speeds? So a speed limiter would be useless b/c their cars are far from stock.

0311_lifer
03-21-2005, 12:03 PM
i think the speed limiter is there to keep them from breaking their drive train. p71's are different from civilian crown vics but they arent immune to stress at high speeds for extended periods of time. im pretty sure they put the speed limiter there to keep them from breaking their cars basically.

jimmytroanoke
03-22-2005, 12:59 PM
The speed limiter is probably there for the rated maximum speed of the tires. A lot of performance cars have limiters to keep the cars from exceeding the design rating of the tire. Gotta please the lawyers!

backyard_mech420
03-22-2005, 05:43 PM
The speed limiter is definatly there to keep you from destroying the drivetrain.Which is not nessicarily going to be destroyed at 125+ mph,but the speed limiter is sort of like insurance to make sure that any damage dose'nt happen.

ModMech
03-24-2005, 11:12 AM
A few facts about "speed limiters".

First, NO panther has one. No, I do not want to hear all the BS about "well my car only goes Xxx MPH, so it must have!" Guess what, that does not matter, it is NOT A SPEED LIMITER!

Second, Ford DID forget to program certain 1999 CVPIs with a limiter. Thats is a fact.

Third, the reason your speed is limited, is because of a programmed TORQUE limiter. This has a similar affect on speed, there is no "hard limit" on vehicle speed. They will run faster with the wind and downhill, than they will against the wind or uphill.

Fourth, Ford NEVER EVER "cuts fuel" as in turn the fuel pump or injectors all off. They gradually drop cylinders which is not exactly the same as "cutting fuel off", nore does it carry the same connotations.

Fifth, Tq limiting is in place for driveline vibration and tire issues. No other reason.

As a few people have said, the CVPI will run ALL DAY at WOT, or at idle, and not break under pressure. THIS is why the LEOs around the country keep returning to Ford for their cars. No other car has PROVEN to have as safe and low maintence a track record, AND be able to run til it is out of gas at any speed.

I don't think you wold have a chance of catching a Corvette etc., but for 99.9% of the vehicles, you will NEVER out-last the police.

fbi-interceptor
05-03-2005, 07:59 PM
i cant stop laughing at the 5 speed manual bullet proof tranny. wow what is this kid smoking?? send some to pittsburgh buddy. i have a 93 cvpi it has a 4.6 engine with aod tranny. this was the last year they used this tranny. do you have any idea how many tranny's would be floating around out there if they swapped them before they sold them? think about that for a minute!

BiggerJon
05-05-2005, 11:00 PM
i wish i had a real interceptor!http://mustangandfords.com/techarticles/p62991_image_small.jpg

notrubskwah
03-26-2007, 08:49 AM
I can clear some confusion, I took apart a 2001 p71 computer from the 4.6L engine that I had bought to put in my mustang, and there is a module of some sort inside of the pcm. But I am not positive on exactly what it does, but I am pretty sure it makes the tranny shift quicker adjusts the fuel a little and the idle for the higher amp alternater.

Stale Trooper
03-26-2007, 10:01 PM
bah, the crown vic p71 is a joke, all police cars nowdays are a joke for christs sake stock economy imports can whoop the shit outta the 2 main police cars (crown vic & impala). Its really pathetic and makes me sad, honestly. They need to start bringing back cruisers like the caprice 9c1. Only thing going for cops today is that people are scared shitless of getting near or passing the cars.

You all can have your rice rockets :evillol: , soup'em up :nono: , dress'em up :pimp: , and get enough speed out of'em to blister the paint off a CV as you pass by :newburn: . Just remember that CVPI you pass may not catch ya, but you can't out run the best option on it... the Motorola!!:loser:


I've yet to find the top end, or any sign of a speed cut off in my '99 CVPI

way2old
03-27-2007, 07:05 AM
Your fuel should cut off at 128mph

AMDfan
06-15-2007, 01:24 PM
I don't care if my car has a speed limiter of some sort...shes my daily driver now, and no more high speed pursuits.

(Quoted from Amo4387622)

"Police package Crown Vics come with a bullit proof 5 speed trany and a 4.6 engine but with a little more power than you would get on a stock Crown Vic at the dealer. But when the highway patrol and police departments decide to sell there cars they put the stock 4 speed trany back in the car. They also reflash the computer and put the speed limiter back on. I know this for a fact because when i was in high school i took a field trip to are local police department and when we got to check out the cars they used the officer told me all of this."

I hate to tell ya the bad news bro...but they lied to you....lol. IF there really is a speed limiter on them in the first place, they would've never took it off. My ECM is the same as it was when it was in service...still idles a bit higher and everything.

The only thing I hate about my car is that before I pull away, I have to disengage the O/D unless I take her on the highway. Thats one small thing I can live with though.

If you plan on doing some mods to your panther, visit the folks at http://www.crownvic.net and you will be able to find a wealth of information on panthers!

mustangd
06-16-2007, 12:51 PM
ok, lets' look at displacement, 4.6L, that pretty much tells the story. now, if a person is in the market for a full framed rear wheel drive car, that doesn't suck fuel like a vaccuum, will cruise down a highway with little labor at 90+ mph, the cvpi is a good road car. heck, on the highway with cruise, i can get close to 25mpg, the cvpi is not a high performance vehicle, the police mustangs were, ( is ford offering an mpi these days?), the camaro's pi's also were some of the last performance police cars. really the c'vics are people movers, as in taxi's. one more point, for a fact, when people see a late model c'vic, with a black grill ( the body style hasn't changed much since 1998 ), they tend to NOT pull out of you, and on the highway, if you are trying to pass, people tend to move over and let you do so. to me, those are nice benefits. :)

91Caprice9c1
06-24-2007, 01:50 AM
You guys want full-size ex-police cars, forget about the vics.. get yourself a 96 caprice 9c1 like I did. Great car, parts up the wazoo, lots of information at impalassforum.com. I had a 91 9c1 and loved it so much I bought a 96 9c1 with the LT1. It'll dust the latest vics out there - every cop I talk to tells me how s/he misses their 9c1's. The fords are nicer inside.. but their drivetrains are garbage. I rebuilt a 4.6 out of a 99 expedition - it's actually built quite well, except it'll never have the parts accessibility the caprices do, and it'll never have the torque the caprices do without some work. Had my 96 at 130 with maybe a quarter pedal left and backed out. Guys on the forum have 140mph flyby vids - great car man. Theres a guy on the forum running 11.90s 1320 with a STOCK shortblock N/A!! And he sure isn't the only one. Show me a vic that does that. But the vics do look nice, and they are nice inside that's for sure.

vicgameprpr2000
07-29-2007, 01:08 AM
Im a proud owner of a 2000 crown vic p71. My vic is black and has black tint. There are many pros of having a vic 1. On the highway cars get out of your way. 2. I can be sitting in near stopped traffic on I95 put on my blinker and in less then 5 seconds be let over (anyone who live in the dc area knows just how hard that is) 3. Everyone i talk to loves the car. 4. It keeps the idiots driving around you in check.... but there is one thing i just dont get.... why the police in the area i live in hate my car? is it because some of the drug dealers in the area drive them??? is it b/c im young and have a nice car??? this is why i think so.... MINE LOOKS BETTER THEN THERES

garrytoao
07-29-2007, 09:07 PM
Hi, I was wounderign Im looking at buying a 2001 CHP (highway patrol) P71. I understand that they have 5 speed autos, and then ta 220hp v8 or so. But I was woundering how fast they were in quarter mile times, and 0-60s. I imagine they are better than most cars, but not the best either, especially considering they have v8s.go to p71interceptor.com and learn all about ur crown vic p71 police package or the p72 taxi cab special

91Caprice9c1
08-10-2007, 02:09 AM
I gotta hand it to you, they are very nice looking cars, especially in black. And the interiors aren't bad either. And as much as I hate ford - they did the body and interior right on the vics.

'99Marquis
04-10-2008, 08:09 PM
So here it is...two big points
1. No police department would spend the money to swap transmissions ,

2. If a P71 came with a speed/fuel limiter the cost would be astronomical to EVER swap it out of the car because they would then NEED to swap out the ECM, more cars means more swaps.

The fact of how cost prohibitive it would be to do this is evidence enough.

But, let's take it just a bit farther, you may decide that the p.d. may hold on to the "spare" parts that came off to put them back on at sale time. No, not gonna happen. Now they would have to pay for off-site professional storage as well as a security detail to make sure that no one would make off with their "spares". More cost in-efficiency.

So, amo, the next time you feel like noting that a police officer told you on a field trip to your local p.d. that police cars are so much faster than civvie's it's because you were a kid and would probably believe it. He would have hoped you'd believe it so that when you "grew up" he wouldn't have to try so hard when he pulled you over.

035spdCVPI
05-08-2008, 02:54 PM
[quote=theFREAKnasty82]I agree w/ you ModMech, I used to work for a police department maintaining cruisers and I drove several of them to either the local tire shop or what have you; anyway, they came with a 4.6 w/ dual exhaust and the 4R70W tranny. The only real difference between that and stock is that police packages have (well used to have on older crown vics) is that they didn't have manual low only manual second; now those cruisers have drive, overdrive cancel switch, second and first. Other than beefed up suspensions and run flat tires, they're only slightly modified from stock.
You guys are wrong. I have a 2003 CVPI with a T45 manual mustang tranny in it. It's from a 2000 mustang GT. Car flies! How do I upload pics and I will show you.

'99Marquis
05-10-2008, 02:08 PM
Ok you have a manual transmission good for you. But your car did not come with that tranny from the factory, did it. No. If you had paid a little more attention to the previous posts no one was saying you couldn't put a 5-speed in it just that Ford doesn't offer one from the factiry.

As to posting a pic you can post them in your profile and then we can look at it there.

035spdCVPI
05-11-2008, 01:41 PM
Ok you have a manual transmission good for you. But your car did not come with that tranny from the factory, did it. No. If you had paid a little more attention to the previous posts no one was saying you couldn't put a 5-speed in it just that Ford doesn't offer one from the factiry.

As to posting a pic you can post them in your profile and then we can look at it there. Actually, yes someone did say it wasn't possible. In the words of ModMech "That info is all incorrect. You CANNOT even put a manual trans in a CVPI, the parts are not there nor are they available." So, I'm just letting everyone know that it IS possible. And, for the record, you're right, it IS good for me! Maybe YOU should pay attention to the posts!!!

way2old
05-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Seems like we are getting way off track here. Keep the answers on the subject. I HAVE read the posts. So lets be nice.

fleettech
05-14-2008, 01:02 PM
[quote=ModMech]
As a few people have said, the CVPI will run ALL DAY at WOT, or at idle, and not break under pressure. THIS is why the LEOs around the country keep returning to Ford for their cars. No other car has PROVEN to have as safe and low maintence a track record, AND be able to run til it is out of gas at any speed.

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But Don't EVER run them in water above the front bumper because they cannot swim and drown fast.

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