The cobra does not use a kenne bell supercharger. It uses an eaton M112 supercharger which is a more efficient version of the M90/MP90s. The pulley upgrade on the 03/04 cobra will infact make it an 11 second car. It's a 12 second car stock. And, my 'final word' on this race is that it appears to be a 2001 cobra racing from about a 4th gear roll. My reasoning: No supercharger whine, which...if you've ever seen an 03/04 cobra in action..you'd know was quite loud. And I'm assuming it's a 4th gear roll due to the lack of shifting involved. I rule out it being automatic due to the fact that there is no automatic cobra.

Edit: And I ruled out the 99 cobra because it appears that the headlights are 'fogged'. Which they did not start putting on mustangs until 2000. And since there was no 2000 cobra...and I think this one is N/A...it must be a 2001.

Yes you are correct it is not a Ken Bell Supercharger. I was refering to an article in an old edition of Muscle Mustang and Fast Fords where Ken Bell gets a hold of a 03 Cobra and does his magic and makes it a 11 second monster. Good Article....

I do not know why there is so much conflict, there is always going to be someone faster, so you will never be the fastest. just enjoy the race and win or lose have fun and not flame each other...

I did some trial and error on GT3 considering its pretty realistic. I used IIRC a skyline. I ran it starting in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. MPH changed 1mph and ET changed 2.5seconds.

No shit? Well if that happened in GT3, it MUST be true!
Not only are we bench racing, but now we are using video games to back it up? :rolleyes:

If in fact this were not an 03 cobra, Harold would have absolutely obliterated like it wasnt even funny. Hes putting more hp to the wheels than a 99-02 cobra, not to mention is much lighter. And I think even if there was supercharger whine coming from the mustang, you wouldnt be able to hear it over the turbo.

I think launching in 2nd gear for 240s is a good idea. If you watch Duy's 10.8 vs 10.9 vid(its in the ultimate ka turbo video) it looks like he launches in second gear. I think he sticks it pretty good there. He does roast the tires pretty good though.
a majority of japanese 240sx's launch from 2nd due to roasting the tires in first... i tried this but my et was .5 sec worse, but i may try it out again this spring because i'll have different power specs...

yea i think duy did launch from 2nd... that launch was mighty long.

No shit? Well if that happened in GT3, it MUST be true!
Not only are we bench racing, but now we are using video games to back it up? :rolleyes:


If you haven't noticed, its a pretty realistic game.

Try to provide some useful info instead of just criticizing others info.

If you haven't noticed, its a pretty realistic game.

Try to provide some useful info instead of just criticizing others info.

Maybe you're right, but comparing the cars using GT3 is lame.

And I know those older Maximas can be made into monsters (My brother had one) so I don't doubt that a FI one can beat Cobras.

The kenne bell 2.2l supercharger upgrade for the 03/04 cobra makes them a high 10 second car. :) And beyondloadedse..you must have never been anywhere near an 03/04 cobra because those superchargers WHINE loud as fuck. Louder than the exhaust, louder than a turbo, etc. It's not a faint whine. It's a flat out scream. And yes, maybe he does put more power to the wheels than a 99 or 01 cobra..but thats when they're stock. Who knows what mods it has? All I know is it damn sure doesn't sound like an 03/04 cobra. And that's all I have to say about that.

the cobra had an intake and spark plug wires (if that counts). No way hes picking up an extra 120 whp or so from those mods. I dont see how a 290 hp mustang could even remotely hang with a 460 hp maxima.

The Maxima just can't beat a cobra huh?

My yugo could beat both of them.

The Maxima just can't beat a cobra huh?

Didnt you hear? The cobra cant be beaten. :nono:

the cobras have 390hp, not 290.. Not that it makes a difference.

the cobras have 390hp, not 290.. Not that it makes a difference.
369hp 362tq to the ground


even then 3,600lb car vs a 3000lb car with 375-450hp

I mean't stock rating is 390 crank HP.

This isnt my car, but my friends old 1995 turbo maxima that he just recently sold. Heres a video of him racing a lightly modded 03 cobra (intake was his only mod I think). Hes running a T3/T4 with the setup in this video. Best 1/4 mile run with his T3/T4 and nitrous was a 12.7 @ 118. Not sure what he runs without the bottle, but I do know he put down ~390 whp with just the turbo. This run was without the bottle. Anyways, enjoy!

Maxima vs 03 cobra (http://www.myfamily.com/isapi.dll/c/content/f/viewproperty/contentclass/FILE/contentid/ZZZZZZPZ/propertyname/File/ssid/0o9qyCUh4dvudzkHUh37DSRUiAw*QfMkC/~/hlh0501_vs_modd_03_sc_cobra.wmv)

He did eventually upgrade his turbo and put down 538 whp, 603 wtq and ran a 11.9 @ 125.

I want to see this video, can you give me a new link?

Yes, Maxima is lighter, however what other mods did he have? If this man is making 390whp on a stock 3.0 liter v6 that came with about 200 hp crank give or take a few with a turbo and no Nitrous during the dyno. He is the shit and needes to come work on my Mach 1.

Second, I run a lot of 03/04 Cobras and that Supercharger whine is in my car with the windows up at wot. My friend has one of the 12' sec 240's out here in AR. and his shit aint near as loud as the damn Cobras.

If, this car makes that kind of power just with stock internals except the turbo, the Nitrous would make his mph in the 1/4 that high.

The Cobra can be beaten, however 90% of the Maximas will be screwed playing games like this on the highway or track.

I have never said BS before, but there is a first time for everything, however no BS yet, just give me more info. I like this thread.

Good post, and yes I like Nissans too (300zx, 350z) all cars except Daewoo's.

the cobras have 390hp, not 290.. Not that it makes a difference.

Sorry, i meant to say 310 hp since that was the 99-02 cobra has, since everyone is claiming it wasnt a 03 cobra. I still think it is though, just by how close the race was. Dunno, where i got 290 hp from. An 03 cobra would yield very similar results to the video shown.

Yes, harold is running a complete stock 3.0L longblock. Stock internals, stock heads, stock everything. He's running a MAF off a 300ZX. I think thats about it. And of course, he upgraded his clutch. ~400 whp was accomplished on about 15 psi iirc. He put down 476 whp, 505 wtq on the bottle. He then upgraded turbos and put down 538 whp, 603 wtq. His best trap speed was 125 mph.

If it was a '03, you'd hear that supercharger whine... if you've ever seen videos or a real Cobra get on it. That whine is very loud and very obvious.

:2cents:

3.0L vq30de can put down 600+whp on stock internals

dont make me get links!

3.0L vq30de can put down 600+whp on stock internals

dont make me get links!


Get the damn links, hell everybody make the 3.0 v6 sound like it the Supra motor. Show me why I have been racing the wrong shit for years.

It's not a supercharged cobra. The end.

It's not a supercharged cobra. The end.

true, even if it was a near stock one, the end results would've been the same, but it would've put up a better fight.

true, even if it was a near stock one, the end results would've been the same, but it would've put up a better fight.
Those Cobras with Supercharger fly on the top end, not because I like Mustangs.

If this guy had this much power 500 + hp, yeah then.

It they are under rated in hp and torque with a 6 sp man. They pull harder on top than on the bottom. The independant rear hop at launch makes their 1/4 mile look bad.

If anything can be taken from this thread, I leared that, once again any car can be fast with a lot of money in it including the Maxima.

Secondly, everybody has not played with Supercharged Cobras stock or modified as much they should or as much as I have.

Someone in here said the 2003 Corvett Z06 had more hp than a 2003 Cobra. That person should do more research.

Here is one link for everybody http://www.dynoperformance.com/

Those Cobras with Supercharger fly on the top end, not because I like Mustangs.

If this guy had this much power 500 + hp, yeah then.

It they are under rated in hp and torque with a 6 sp man. They pull harder on top than on the bottom. The independant rear hop at launch makes their 1/4 mile look bad.

If anything can be taken from this thread, I leared that, once again any car can be fast with a lot of money in it including the Maxima.

Secondly, everybody has not played with Supercharged Cobras stock or modified as much they should or as much as I have.

Someone in here said the 2003 Corvett Z06 had more hp than a 2003 Cobra. That person should do more research.

Here is one link for everybody http://www.dynoperformance.com/

i was the one that mentioned about the Z06. however i did not say the Z06 made more power, i know a stock 03 cobra dynos at 350whp, sport compact car put one on the dyno. however i said the Z06 was faster and trapped higher which is true. ( lighter weight, fatter tires, more aerodynamic ) a Z06 usually traps at 112mph a 03 cobra would trap at around 108mph. that max traps at over 118mph. thats 10mph difference between them. also from a roll like in that video traction is really not a problem. but its been settled that is not a super charged cobra, and even if it was, and its close to stock, then the max would still take it.