Ok, it's all out war, what domestic has the most potential to be the ultimate drag car?

im glad i drive a cavalier

I dont have a cav yet, but i will soon :alien:

i voted Cavy, its my second fav. car, next to the Corvette of crouse;)

Does anybody know the specs on all of the cars on the poll or a good place to find them?

HA

too bad none of those GM cars are being produced...

yeah i would go for the 220 sport, but it is a SEMA concept car and we all know that GM is the biggest wuss when it comes to making a car that people actually want... they are killing the camaro, firebird, no v-6's in anything that weighs less than 3000 pounds... the only car that they are going to have going for them is the corvette... i love GM but there is no way those cars are going to be made!

~mike

p.s. gotta love the entrance on the first post!

I really dont understand what happened to GM...i mean short of the 'vette they died...they killed the camaro and i wonder how long it'll be before somethin else goes

you guys DO know about the new 2.0L 810hp orange DRAG cavalier right?? well it beat lisa kubo and is now one of the fastest FWD drag cars. Keep in mind that engine is a production 2.2L Ecotec HEAVILY modded, dont worry i know what goes into creatign a drag engine, im not saying a stock 02' ecocav could run 9's. What i AM saying is that the new ecocav has much tunning potential.

What the hell is this? No RWD models? About the only two I could think of would be the Cav and the Neon. The only reason I say that is a V-6 motor could be dropped in. There's no replacement for displacement. Then again, I may be going out on a limb with the Neon. It's rumored that the Mopar R&D group dropped a 3.5 liter V-6 out of a Intrepid into a Neon back in 96. I don't know how true that is, but could you imagine a Neon with that big a motor? I wonder how fast that thing would go? It would be nice if it was true. Oh well.

Cavalier all the way baby!!

I'd go with the Cougar over any of those little cars.

Cavalier, sorry I think that car is ugly. Just too damn plain. Sunfire isn't as bad but not that great either. Saturn, Neon, blah. Focus.....Civic wannabe.

dont the cav, and the sunfire have pretty much the same tuning potential?

Why would you waste your time on any domestic small cars?

V8's are the only we got thats worth a damn and they are getting killed off.

a cav is the only way to go. To hell with all the imports and the rest of those shitty domestics on the list. The cavalier has more tuning potetial that any of those cars could even dream of having. The 2.2 drag car proves that.

I chose geo cuz those are pimp! I beat the shit outa my moms geo prizim when I was learing to drive, race, drift, and whatnot...it still runs great! Only repair needed was a bearing from nailing a curb at 50 (advoiding a jackass flying up on me)

Originally posted by 1320B4U
Why would you waste your time on any domestic small cars?

V8's are the only we got thats worth a damn and they are getting killed off.


Well, I waste my time with domestic small cars because I can buy one, mod it out to be a competitor against most v8's, and have enough cash left over to be able to still afford to pay my insurance every month.

Let's face it, the v8 sports cars kick ass, but they are just too damned expensive. Not only in initial costs but also in insurance. Hell my insurance company won't even insure anyone under 21 for Camaro's, Trans Am's, ect, ect....

Don't get me wrong though. When I graduate someday and have a real job and make real money, the first thing you will see in my driveway is a 2002 Trans Am WS6!!!

Well, I waste my time with domestic small cars because I can buy one, mod it out to be a competitor against most v8's, and have enough cash left over to be able to still afford to pay my insurance every month.


Really? What compact domestic is going to be able to run with a V-8. Your Cav surely cannot. Name ONE.

And the 2.2 drag car, its a purpose built straight line racer with an engine that costs more than a Cav.

Oh man the 2.2 drag car is a whole different animal. BTW my cavy is a six cyl. I dont' really like 4 cyl's. And TONS of people have already dropped the 3.1l turbo in their 6 cyl cavy's and are running around 250 HP on stock internals. One guy that I see on the boards has heavily built his motor and is running around 320 HP if I remember correctly. And you have to remember that these cavaliers weigh over 800 lb less than a z28, which is my benchmark v8 vehicle.
Don't get all pissed off. I'm just saying that since I can't afford a z28 I think the cavalier is a great domestic tuner car.

i would go with a buick grand national or regal t-type

Nothing like a mopar 360 to ruin anybodys day.

now if you put all that work into a real car, you'd have a bullet.
too bad it's still just a neon

all that work into a neon is a bullet.

cavalier has the most after market parts out of that group.

oh idk, neon's got alot, more i think.
but around here in indiana, a guy wouldn't be caught dead in a neon...girls car :gay:

:iagree: neons are for girls.

The SRT4 would hand all those car's its ass. stock for stock, any car that would drop a wrx, would hands down be the winner.

:twak:

hey, but the srt-4 is so much better than the other models of the neon that they can't even be considered the same car. i'll give it that much, but i'm still goin w/ my cavi over the srt-4. in the end cavi's come out ahead.

oh, and a thing that i read about the next generation neon...it's supposed to have the lancer's suspension and powertrain, and it's supposed to be redesigned to look kinda like the lancer too.

Originally posted by krebs128
hey, but the srt-4 is so much better than the other models of the neon that they can't even be considered the same car. i'll give it that much, but i'm still goin w/ my cavi over the srt-4. in the end cavi's come out ahead.

oh, and a thing that i read about the next generation neon...it's supposed to have the lancer's suspension and powertrain, and it's supposed to be redesigned to look kinda like the lancer too.

The new neon is a lot better than the old ones as far as looks, the new grill and headlights don't look as girly. how much hp does the srt-4 have?

2003 Neon

SE - 132 h/p, 130 lb/ft torque
SXT - 132 h/p, 130 lb/ft torque
R/T - 150 h/p, 135 lb/ft torque
SRT-4 - 215 h/p, 245 lb/ft torque

(see the noticable difference between the srt-4 and the other 3 models???)

"but i'm still goin w/ my cavi over the srt-4. in the end cavi's come out ahead."

How do you figure a GM econo/junk box comes out on top over a car designed to kill just about everything under 30K?

cause at the end of the day...win or lose....your still driving a Chevy:slap:

Originally posted by chevyfreak
cause at the end of the day...win or lose....your still driving a Chevy:slap: :worshippy thank you!!!!

this looks like this might turn into another flame war between cavi's and neons. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t63762.html

If you want to gloat about driving a chevy cav, go for it :lol:

alright sounds great! :iamwithst

ok guys, this one is actually pretty simple, i don't know about the cougar, but the one with the most tuning potential in that list is the focus, any guesses why?






because it's not f/i and all the others are.

"ok guys, this one is actually pretty simple, i don't know about the cougar, but the one with the most tuning potential in that list is the focus, any guesses why?

because it's not f/i and all the others are."

PLEASE TELL ME YOUR JOKING.

Originally posted by SolTheHoelessPimp
ok guys, this one is actually pretty simple, i don't know about the cougar, but the one with the most tuning potential in that list is the focus, any guesses why?






because it's not f/i and all the others are.
not really. car's with stock FI are much easier to mod for high hp than cars that aren't meant to be turbo. thier internals are already set up for boost. there are always exceptions though, but i'd rather modify an RS focus(turbo) than try to turbocharge an svt or zx3 and work from there.

if your looking at this from a prospective of most hp that can be gained, the non fi will win ,simple because it has the lowest starting point.

why not say those cars all suck...



pray for forgiveness for ever owning a domestic...



and go buy an import!!!



a 91+ 240sx would take every single one of those cars in a road race

wow, and what r u driving?...yea

It might be badged as a domestic, but with an engine that can handle twice the factory power output on stock internals, it's stouter than any domestic engine produced.

Sport Compact Car sure loves the SRT-4. That'd probably be my vote.

Originally posted by Yasunori
Sport Compact Car sure loves the SRT-4. That'd probably be my vote.

you know, u posted somewhere else about 'your fav cars' and referred to sport compact car, is that magazine your bible?

Originally posted by krebs128


you know, u posted somewhere else about 'your fav cars' and referred to sport compact car, is that magazine your bible?

I consider them fairly reputable. I don't have a subscription or anything, but I picked one up due to some recent articles of interest. There were some Cavalier builds in the last issue.

I know one car an SRT can't take probly...the new 350z...280hp if I remember correctly and even though it weighs quite a bit more...it's still fast and probly faster

Dodge Neon SRT-4: 215hp turbocharged 2.4L, DOHC 4 cylinder

Chevrolet Cavalier 220 Turbo Sport: 220hp turbocharged 2.2L ecotec, 4 cylinder (concept car)

Pontiac Sunfire H.O: 260hp supercharged 2.4L Twin Cam, 4 cylinder roots type supercharger (concept car)

Ford Focus SVT:170-180hp 2.0L Zetec I-4, 4 cylinder (DOHC w/ VCT variable intake cam timing)

Mercury Couger ZN: 170hp Duratec 2.5L 24 valve DOHC V-6
(concept car)

Saturn SC2 Turbo: 200hp 2.0L, DOHC 4 cylinder w/ a Eaton M62 Helical roots supercharger. (Concept design) Onlyy one i could find was a 2001 SC2: 124hp 1.9L L-4 DOHC, 4 cylinder

Chevrolet Cavalier Z-24 Sedan: 262hp supercharged 2.2L I-4, 4 cylinder Roots type supercharger w/ liquid-air charge cooling
(concept car)

Chevy Cavalier 263 SS: 262hp supercharged 2.2L I-4, 4 cylinder roots type supercharger w/ liquid-air intercooler (concept car)

Saturn SCX Concept: 300hp 1.9L DOHC 4 clyinder
(never produced)

Chevrolet Cavalier Z-24 Technic: 260hp supercharged 2.4L Twin Cam 16valve I-4, 4 cylinder roots type supercharger (Concept car)

that's prety much the D/L on these cars plus a few extra. If you have any questions....just ask.....

So basically, the only one availabe to purchase is the SRT4. And all the other ones are like saying Mitsu is coming out with a 4th gen Eclipse GSX pumping out 350hp stock:rolleyes: American "imports" are a joke. This segment has been around for what, 13+years, and the only good car they have ever came out with is the SRT4.

HANDS DOWN...chevy cavalier!!! you ever see that turbo 10 second 2.2 ecotec at NOPI last year?? :eek2:

HA

too bad none of those GM cars are being produced...

yeah i would go for the 220 sport, but it is a SEMA concept car and we all know that GM is the biggest wuss when it comes to making a car that people actually want... they are killing the camaro, firebird, no v-6's in anything that weighs less than 3000 pounds... the only car that they are going to have going for them is the corvette... i love GM but there is no way those cars are going to be made!

~mike

p.s. gotta love the entrance on the first post!

hey my cav has a v6 in a car way less than 3000lbs

actually people are saying srt4 is the best car and all that. all it has in it is a turbo and 4 windows, that only 2 are power. wow great car.

i think the 2.2 and 2.4 cavaliers have the MOST potential period....u ever see that 10 second 2.2L ecotec cav turbo at SEMA??

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actually people are saying srt4 is the best car and all that. all it has in it is a turbo and 4 windows, that only 2 are power. wow great car.
isn't it the same engine out of eclipses/laser/talon just tuned a little?

as far as specs go the srt-4 in 2004 is gonna be the nastiest stock car followed by focus the neon should have stock hp of about 225 thats good for a v-4

there are better cars than that stock, maybe not for the price. i'd take a 350z or s2000 over the neon and the svt focus is nice but it's nothing major. gimme an RS focus anyday over the srt or SVT. and what the hell's a v4? you mean an inline 4?

i v4 is the same thing as a inline four also the same thing as a fourbanger and i hate imports my boys got a mustang that could take a damn 350z and shit it out the tail pipe the rs focus has nothing on the srt-4 go look at the specs for the new 2004 one

a v and an inline are not the same thing. a v is v shaped and an inline isn't. ever wonder why a 4cylinder car has a header and v6's and 8's get headers? the only v4's i know of are turbo-diesel and they're more of a box shape.
and unless your friends car has some decent modifications it will not shit on a 350z. it may beat it, but it wouldn't kill it.

dog i got a video of a race we went to this weekend he was paired up with a 71 chevell hes got a 89 stang he took it off the line and smoked it hes got a 9 sec car it will shit on the 350z i know what im talking when it comes to cars because i love em i love taking other peoples cars and making them fast im hookin up my friends berreta hes got the 3.1 v6 its a fuckin beast now nick named the import hunter.

The Colbalt SS will tear it up :evillol:

i say the cavalier!! :iceslolan



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tear up?! bull shit, the car's fucking gay-and the SS is not definate, and knowing chevy it prolly won't happen (i.e. cavi turbo 220)

tear up?! bull shit, the car's fucking gay-and the SS is not definate, and knowing chevy it prolly won't happen (i.e. cavi turbo 220) I not sure about that, chevy knows that they need to get something out to compete with srt-4, evo8(if can even relate) and the prezza since its now a huge market for kids. I think anything looks better than the 2003 cavs=damn fugly :eek:

chevy is coming out with a car to keep up with the evo and all the other ones there comin out with a ss line of cars they got an ss impala ss silverado ss concept go on there site and look at em

i still say out of all of them, the cavalier still looks the best in the end

as for tuning, it depends on the tuner...like always, you can make a geo fast if you have the skillz


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chevy is coming out with a car to keep up with the evo and all the other ones there comin out with a ss line of cars they got an ss impala ss silverado ss concept go on there site and look at em

oh don't get me started on the impala ss-doesn't deserve that name, good car, but not that good. and basically it's a family sedan w/ a grand prix gtp engine, better than LS but not too much better. and silverado ss, yea sounds like a sweet truck and all but not the street racer theme they want to keep up w/ the srt4.

CAVALIER OF COUrse

havent u guys picked up the last issue of sport compact for november?? check out the yellow turbo cav...question answered


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yea, i read that article today, and the out-put on that turbo cavalier seems really low to what i thought it would be. 182 hp and 176 lb/ft torque. i've seen other ppl's turbo setups in cavalier pushing it up to 200hp. but that's pretty good for a stock cavi.

Is there anybody in here old enough to remember the Dodge Omni GLH?
Starting in 1985, Dodge put the Turbo 1 on the optional 2.2L "HP" inline-4. Used with Chrysler's new fuel injection system, this engine generated 150 hp, and could propel the boxy K-car to 60mph in less than 8 seconds. Cost: less than $7000.
Now, nearly 20 years later, here comes the SRT-4. If this Neon is anything like the old GLH, then it will smoke everything in it's path.
Cost: less than $20k. And who the fzzk cares if the back windows aren't power?...putting 'em down just makes you slower. I wouldn't even get the power windows.
If you whiny lil punks want a good domestic to tune, try reading up on any of the Dodge intercooled Turbo 2s or the VNT, or my personal favorite, the '88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe 5spd. Guaranteed to cost less to tune, and smoke any Cavaliers or crappy Sunfarts, regardless
of it's method of aspiration.
Past turbocharged cars I've owned:
2 Chrysler/Dodge Turbo 1
an '83 280zx turbo 5spd
an '85 Cougar XR-7 turbo auto

What the hell is this? No RWD models? About the only two I could think of would be the Cav and the Neon. The only reason I say that is a V-6 motor could be dropped in. There's no replacement for displacement. Then again, I may be going out on a limb with the Neon. It's rumored that the Mopar R&D group dropped a 3.5 liter V-6 out of a Intrepid into a Neon back in 96. I don't know how true that is, but could you imagine a Neon with that big a motor? I wonder how fast that thing would go? It would be nice if it was true. Oh well. Get a grip displacement doesn#t make a car fast. It comprised of lot more that. go ahead and Drop a v-6 or a small block in a small domestic or an import and you will get nothing but a gas guzzling noisy heavy piece of junk. Transmissions and gear ratios are what make a fast car. you could have all the horsepower you want but if it not set up right it just be hunk of horsepower or all show and know go.

only problem with the new neon's is that the transmissions give customers some problems. and the old neon's was the head gaskets blowing. in any case. your better off with a cavalier. better car. and don't even get me started on the crappy ford focuses. THEY top the list in TOTAL recalls. If any one buys one they should be given a direct line to a repair shop because it will be there more than it will be on the road

Why argue about the tuning potential of a pile of crap. Why don"t you decide what you want (FWD-RWD-AWD, how much $$ to spend), then look at the logical choices and decide. RWD and less than $5k: an 89-94 240sx with an SR20DET. A low 14/high13 sec. car with reliability- any Honda with a B/H series. Insane speed for less than $5k- an F4 CBR or YZF-R6.

CAVALIERz WATTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS CAVALIERS OR ANY OTHER LITTLE 4 CYLINDER GM VEHICLES ARE SHIT, THIS IS AN ARTICLE FROM J-BODY.COM A SITE OF NEWS AND REVIEWS SPECIFICLLY ABOUT GM VEHICLES


FWD CHEVROLET CAVALIER — A WHOLE LOTTA PERFORMANCE FROM THE ECOTEC 2.0L ENGINE

“One thousand horsepower from a 2.0-liter engine.” No, that’s not a typo. That’s the output of this special Ecotec engine. Yes, that’s the same engine that powers the Chevrolet Cavalier, and next year’s Chevy Cobalt. No, you can’t order this exact vehicle from your dealer; however, you can order the components to build your very own 1000-plus horsepower Ecotec engine through GM Performance Parts.

This special Cavalier, on display at the 2003 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show, competes in the National Hot Rod Association (NHRA) Pro Front Wheel Drive class. In race trim, this four-cylinder engine is equipped with a turbocharger and intercooler to achieve 1000-plus horsepower and 650 lbs.-ft. of torque. Power is transferred to the 28x10.5-inch front tires via a six-speed, sequential, manual transmission.

The Cavalier runs on methanol fuel and features a full-tube frame chassis, Penske triple-adjustable front and rear shocks and an independent rear suspension.

It also features carbon-fiber race brakes, a safety roll cage, six-point safety harness, a head and neck support (HANS) system, a fire-suppression system and an independent witness crash recorder to record safety data in the event of an impact.

The Chevrolet Cavalier’s NHRA-approved full carbon-fiber body measures 47.5-inches tall, 68.7-inches wide, and is 202-inches long. It’s finished in Tangelo Orange and Cinnamon Brown exterior paint with white pearl flames.

The Cavalier Sport Compact program in 2003 won the Pro FWD class championship by capturing seven victories in the 10-race Summit Sport Compact series. The Cavalier currently holds the national speed record in Pro FWD at 186.48 mph.

With this record of success, Cavalier is now regarded as a driving force in Sport Compact competition. And all of this proven Ecotec engine performance and durability will be part of next year’s Cobalt performance story, so stay tuned.

CHEVROLET CAVALIER FWD DRAG RACER HIGHLIGHTS:

Ecotec 2.0L I-4
1000-plus horsepower
650 lb.-ft. torque
Six-speed sequential manual transmission
Methanol fuel
Full tube frame chassis
Penske triple adjustable front and rear shocks
Independent rear suspension
2003 NHRA-approved full carbon fiber body
Carbon-fiber race brakes
Safety roll cage and six-point harness belts and HANS device
Fire-suppression system and independent witness crash recorder
28x10.5-inch front drag race tires
25x4.5-inch rear drag tires
Tangelo Orange and Cinnamon Brown with white pearl flames

oh yeah and also here is a few pics of anyone that wants to see the 2.2 ecotec acctually tuned up and plaqued at the 2002 SEMA show and a few of the car itself, for the non believers.....

http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2002/Tuesday/P1010052.JPG
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2002/Tuesday/P1010050.JPG
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2002/Tuesday/P1010051.JPG
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2002/Tuesday/P1010053.JPG

well here's something to try to bite off and chew....brace yourself:

the turbocharged mitsubishi 2.4L srt-4 neon tops out at 248 hp at the wheels, and around 240 lb/ft of torque. It will drop a 1/4 mile in the low 15s, and has a 0-60 in 5.6 sec....good considering it weighs almost 3000 lbs. Top speed is 153 according to car and driver tho the guage cluster only goes to 150. All of this, not too bad from an engine that was made in mexico, and designed and engineered by mexicans, probably because it was later made better by American muscle, and German engineering/technology. <not a racial slur against mexicans by anymeans....just think for a second tho.....the only country left that has an interest in building voltswagon beetles, is engineering american engines, hmmmm.....> I would still definately pay the $20,000 that these cars cost!

The Ecotec turbocharged engine of the 220 turbo sport cavalier produces 220 hp and it is mated to a five-speed manual transmission. Still fast, but youd be better off with the cavalier 263 ss...16 valve 2.2L 262 hp ecotec, roots supercharger, and liquid-to-air intercooler. The supposed ETA for the 1/4 mile is low-mid 15s, torque is around 210 lb/ft of torque. Pretty good upgrade from the old 2.2, 2.3, and DOHC 2.4L in the 90's.

Under the rest of the competition, is the supercharged 2.4L Sunfire H.O. Weighing in at 200hp, and 195 lb/ft of torqe Id stop considering even looing at it. Especially when compared to the Sunfire S/T model: 2.2L Ecotec L4 that puts out 220 hp, and 197 lb ft torque....can anyones say....CAVALIER!

Well to start off with the Focus SVT, its made by ford....caugh, caugh! SVT means SPECIAL VEHICLE TEAM..............yeah............creative huh..........well it is ford; i wanna meet the "special people" working on this P.O.S. I would like to see horsepower upward of 170, and torque meet the same, the price drop below $20,000, and get some better gas mileage...then i might buy it for my grandma. WTF is so great about this car for it to even be on that list?

Im not even going to touch the Cougar....who made this list? You should have just put a cavalier z24 on there instead of this heap of trash....ive actually put this combo together....the z24 wins!

The saturn SC2......come on guys! Sure the turbo will add some oompf....but youre not serious are you!?

My vote 100% is the neon....its been known to keep up with an EVO or two, which is more than any of these other cars...the cavalier would get my 2nd vote.

You all need to get real. The only way to go is 4G63 no matter what you put it in. Except nothing but the best. case in point:

http://www.buschurracing.com/
http://www.slowboyracing.com/

Team H.A.T.E.

Chevrolet Cavalier 220 Turbo Sport????
Pontiac Sunfire H.O. 2.4L?????
Saturn SC2 Turbo?????
Mercury Cougar Zn????

Do these car even exsist. I have never heard of them. But by far the srt4 has the most potential. A lightly modded srt can run mid to high 13's

mustang 5.0

i think that the SRT-4 is the best choice here and i think that the cavalier would be my second choice. I dont know too much about these high end concepts though.

i vote for the cavy only b/c while i see alot of modded out neons, the performance on them is relatively average in stock. the sunfire is Pontiac's competitive rendition of the cavalier(just look at the late 80s-mid 90s models of both-notice how pontiac did away with the sunbird and created the sunfire the same year chevy changed the cavy body), the others just don't see that much of by way of mods

I'll Stick with my 93 G/A H.O. That is unless I can come across a SRT-4 or the new GTO

I'm a loyal (maybe crazy :screwy: ) Cavalier fan b/c my first car was a Cav and I love the darn thing.

Yeah, my first car a a 91 2.2 5 spd Cavalier. I still have that damn car. Has hella amounts of miles on it 270,000+. I don't have any complaints.

i'd take a Civic over a Cavalier anyday, damn cavaliers are falling apart !

I own a cavalier but the ford focus is the only 4 cyl. I know that will accept a V8 302 that is crazy.

I saw a guy that had a short-block 350 in his Cavalier (drag car), so it can be done....

Well, I waste my time with domestic small cars because I can buy one, mod it out to be a competitor against most v8's, and have enough cash left over to be able to still afford to pay my insurance every month.

Let's face it, the v8 sports cars kick ass, but they are just too damned expensive. Not only in initial costs but also in insurance. Hell my insurance company won't even insure anyone under 21 for Camaro's, Trans Am's, ect, ect....

Don't get me wrong though. When I graduate someday and have a real job and make real money, the first thing you will see in my driveway is a 2002 Trans Am WS6!!!
I don't know who your insurance company is.But damn near every company will do it,if you are willing to pay the premium.I was married to a woman quite a few years older than me.Her son had a camaro at 16.He paid 390.00 a month.But,he managed to do it.So,if you can afford it.It can be done.

I saw a guy that had a short-block 350 in his Cavalier (drag car), so it can be done....
I also have seen a guy with a 96 LT1 in his cavy,5spd,very,very,quick/fast.

I also have seen a guy with a 96 LT1 in his cavy,5spd,very,very,quick/fast.

Yeah, I bet it was what time did he run?

ok stock for stock the srt4 will annilhate all of the above. a highly moded srt4 will easily do low 12's high 11's. so yea srt is easily the best car up there.

Whoever said that the srt is a low 15 sec car is very off with thier numbers. I am at work, but have my first ever timeslip run with my srt. It reads as such.

R/T 1.328
60' 2.307
330 6.218
1/8 9.326
mph 79.76
1000 11.999
1/4 14.271
mph 98.84

This is bone stock, first run at the track with this car ever. I have since gotten a 13.8 out if it in stock trim by cutting my 60' down as well as launching a little less aggressively. Traction is your friend and I launched the 14.2 run around 2500 rpm. I now launch at 1800 rpm, minimizing wheel spin and cutting my times down. There are a few stock srt's running in the 13.7 range. Many have under $2000 in mods, and are well into the 12's. I have an 04. I have clearly casted my vote by buying an srt, but I dont think you guys have all of your infor right on this particular vehicle.

Whoever said that the srt is a low 15 sec car is very off with thier numbers. I am at work, but have my first ever timeslip run with my srt. It reads as such.

R/T 1.328
60' 2.307
330 6.218
1/8 9.326
mph 79.76
1000 11.999
1/4 14.271
mph 98.84

This is bone stock, first run at the track with this car ever. I have since gotten a 13.8 out if it in stock trim by cutting my 60' down as well as launching a little less aggressively. Traction is your friend and I launched the 14.2 run around 2500 rpm. I now launch at 1800 rpm, minimizing wheel spin and cutting my times down. There are a few stock srt's running in the 13.7 range. Many have under $2000 in mods, and are well into the 12's. I have an 04. I have clearly casted my vote by buying an srt, but I dont think you guys have all of your infor right on this particular vehicle.


thank god some one with some knowledge!!!! did u read this in srtforums?? i was reading this and i just kept getting more pissed off. so i thought i would show it to some people who knew there shit. so once again thanks for showing these tools what they really are.

yeah, my freind has a mazdaspeed protege thats cranking out about 18 lbs. of boost and its anihalet everything that comes across its path thus far, but last week we were leaving school to go get some lunch when we came across an srt-4. to make a long story short, the neon pulled about 1-1/2 to 2 cars ahead then my freind hit fuel cut in third gear and he was gone... so now i have gained alot more respect for the srt-4...

^^^^^^ so there's only two other smart people on this site!!

like the man said, i give major props to the srt-4, but i believe it is still too slow. i own a 95 eclipse that i am running mid to low 11's at rockfalls. upgrades are big 16g turbo, custom exhaust manifold, straight exhaust all the way back, 650cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, 20 psi of boost, and much more. am pushing over 500hp on stock internals. i also read in sport compact that a 93 eclipse runs 0-60 in 3.84 sec. and 1/4 in like 8-9 seconds so i would take a 2nd gen eclipse over any domestic or even the 1g eclipse. the rst-4 is the only domestic that even has a chance against any import.

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like the man said, i give major props to the srt-4, but i believe it is still too slow. i own a 95 eclipse that i am running mid to low 11's at rockfalls. upgrades are big 16g turbo, custom exhaust manifold, straight exhaust all the way back, 650cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, 20 psi of boost, and much more. am pushing over 500hp on stock internals. i also read in sport compact that a 93 eclipse runs 0-60 in 3.84 sec. and 1/4 in like 8-9 seconds so i would take a 2nd gen eclipse over any domestic or even the 1g eclipse. the rst-4 is the only domestic that even has a chance against any import.

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holy shit 0-60 in 3.84 sec's wow your dumb! a stock srt will kill any stock dsm. geez how many times do i have to say that in this thread.

gots to be the cavalier. and yes cavalier and sunfire are the same car.. enginewise :) GM ticks me off too. they tease but never please.. my problem example = Hella produced those bodycolor matching projectors for the 263? [orange stolen cavalier]..they have them, but GM will not let them be released to the public.. I WANT THEM

i'd say the pontiac fiero has the most potential. with the rear engine set up you can drop 350 v-8s in them and if you dont know what a fiero is it's a car about the size of a cavalier made in the 80's it has a rear engine and runs low 15's stock with a 2.8 litre v-6. most people drop chevy 350 v-8s in them. I also think the cavalier z-24 (1990 v-6 and the 2000-2002) have alot of potential with a turbo the v-6 cavaliers can run 12's and z24's can run high 14's with very little modification (intake exhuast computer weight reduction ) and you can supercharge 2.4's and cavalier connection is coming out with a turbo kit for the 2.4 soon