I'm looking at buying my next car i want a AWD for handling and takeoff. The car is giong to be used Probably under 10k turbo or not doesn't matter i can put one on later. SO let the suggestions begin. So far under 10k all i have is a imprenza rs and nissian pulsar GTI-R. also could consider cars that can have AWD engine/tranny conversions.

VR4

eclipse GSX
talon TSI AWD

most vr4 around here are no where nere 10k trust me the vr4 would be my choic but not enought funds maybe a stealth with 99vr4 front end conversion.

You can get GTiR's in the states? Never knew that.


Either way your pretty much limited to a Subie or a DSM by the sounds of it, and Audi A4 quattro may or may not be in your reach (This is the original A4 I am reffering to (I can get a 1998-ish 1.8T Quattro over here for about $10k, not sure about where you are)

Mazda 323 GTX (some info below)

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/323BuyersGuide.htm

Galant VR4

Eclipse/Talon Turbo AWD

Celica All Trac late 80's early 90's

Isuzu Impulse RS AWD

all trac wasnt avialble stateside was it?
the 323 just doesn't peak my intrest
If u want i get u in touch with the company that had the GTiR i wanted they told me they can get more. I'd love to get my hadns on a evo 4/5/6 does nebody know how much that would run me in U.S. Also i know fords rally focus is awd to they make a kit for this? So far i'd have to say a steatlh TT with vr4 front end, subie, Talon.

Celica All Trac was the USDM model...in Japan it was called the Celica GT4 and it received a lil more HP than here...at least in the 2nd gen form...(240hp vs. 200hp)

Here are some street cars that are AWD or rally worthy according to www.bensrallypage.com

http://www.rallyclassified.com/index.php?cat=7

Some are US road legal, some are not...but they are all in North Am.

If you want the rest of the car listings here you are:

http://www.rallyclassified.com/index.php

that site had mostley subies,evos, and front wheel drives. the audio A4 and quatro can both be found under 10k here also.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=177344691&dealer_id=611936&car_year=2000&make=SUB&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=&model=IMPREZ&end_year=2006&min_price=&first_record=26&certified=&address=40336&search_type=both&advanced=&isp=y&start_year=1981&cardist=93

Does nebody know who makes a turbo kit for that car or generation. Most turbo kits i see are for the 2002 wrx turbos.

Dunno, but my vote goes to a used Subie, a DSM or a Celica All-Trac Turbo

that site had mostley subies,evos, and front wheel drives. the audio A4 and quatro can both be found under 10k here also.

Celica All Trac w/GT4 conversion

http://www.rallyclassified.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=1936

Galant VR4 (which is AWD and has the same motor as the Eclispe GSX)

http://www.rallyclassified.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=1783

http://www.rallyclassified.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=1595

BMW 325iX (means AWD...and a Bimmer)

http://www.rallyclassified.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=1513

Talk this guy down from 12k...he has a Impreza, 98, Turbo just like you want...

http://www.rallyclassified.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=1496

Provided it's still around...

Galant VR4

i found this in kentucky

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=177107121&dealer_id=55858654&car_year=1993&make=MIT&distance=300&lang=&max_price=11000&model=3000GT&end_year=1999&min_price=4000&certified=&address=40601&search_type=both&advanced=&isp=y&start_year=1991&cardist=295

and like 4 more at the price of 10,000

If you dont mind a truck theres always the syclone/typhoon twins. Those hover right around 10k.

idk with the stealth and the VR4 being almost the same car *body,no active aero or muffler* it would be cheaper to grab a stealth RT/TT and put a 99 vr4 front end on it plus it would look awesome. Also for 10k mostly u see 1st gen VR4s for 5-6k i could grab a 2gen Stealth 320hp so.

well then do that

and no worry about eh 1st gens power because with 5 minutes of your time(if that) you can put the 1st gen at 320hp. if your thinking more looks then do what you said and get the stealth TT

Im considering an AWD car aswell.

Between the A6 Quattro sedan and the A4 1.8T, is there any major differences? Is one cleary better than the other?

There are plenty of both near me that are in my price range (<8k) near 100,000 miles, and 1995-1998. If anyone has any input on these cars i would be glad to hear about it, i dont know too much about them.

Im considering an AWD car aswell.

Between the A6 Quattro sedan and the A4 1.8T, is there any major differences? Is one cleary better than the other?

There are plenty of both near me that are in my price range (<8k) near 100,000 miles, and 1995-1998. If anyone has any input on these cars i would be glad to hear about it, i dont know too much about them.

I think there's a clear weight difference...and more parts aesthetic wise for the A4

This thread really grabbed my interest. I just had to throw in a suggestion or two. Just about every car that everyone has mentioned has merit, but if you are seriously considering a used Audi, there are more fun options out there. Out of the box, the 1.8T and 2.8 engines of the A4 were both kind of so-so in terms of performance. If you really want bang for the buck in an Audi, check out a 94 or 95 S6 quattro. These were among the last 5 cylinder Audis sold in the U.S. Audi offered both a sedan and avant version, and the car had something like 238hp with 250 pound ft. tq just above 2500 rpm. Magazines tested 0-60 for the sedan in the high 5 sec. range. My father has had one for quite a while now, and those 5 cylinder turbo motors are damn near bullet proof. 160k and counting. Pretty decent manual trans, and the car as a whole is a blast to drive. Dad says he has more fun in it than his 2001 530i. Car is pretty heavy, but it has an absolutely awsome stealth quality. I've piqued off a handful of mid 90's Mustang GTs in this car and the drivers don't know whether to crap or go blind. It's really addictive. I always make a point to take it for a spin when I visit my folks. As for the other cars, a Subie or Toyo would be economical as long as you didn't start dumping money for perf. mods into them. The 3000GtVR4 would be awesome, but with age general upkeep can get out of hand on those things. (I speak from experience- a couple of them have passed through our family and among relatives.) The Syclone would be absolutely, throw down, kick ass. Talk about another sleeper. As rare as they are, though, it would be a shame to rag it out as a daily driver. Just my thoughts...

Thanks for your input, and wb to the forums :)