man this kill felt good, really good. Since this was the truck i originally wanted but money and insurance forced me into a cavy. Im getting lucky lately with some good races, i went amost 2 months without one, so i guess its make up time. Anways

On my home from work, 11:30PM on a cold michigan night, im stopped a stoplight pretty much by myself, nex to me pulls a Black Dodge Dakota R/T 5.9 4x4. This being the car i used to want, and has a nice v8 to challenge me. He takes off kinda fast from the light, i try to follow but spin like crazy, roads were just slightly damp. Get up to about 40 MPH, i get next to him and do a nice fast take off to get his attention. I slow down and then he does the same thing. We line up doing about 30 MPH he takes off before me, and those things pull really good down low. I get on it and stop his advance, then i slowly start to pull him in, by 80 MPH i have about a car length lead on him. We both slow down and get onto I94 West. Hes ahead of me and takes off before i get out of the turn. Starting at about 35 MPH, hes got about 2 car lengths or so on me from the start. Then i slowly start pulling him in, by 75 MPH im even with him, and by 105MPH hes at my bumper. We both slowed down, to about 60MPH and lined up. He takes off first again, geeez you think the guy with the v8 would let the little 4 banger get a head start, anways same thing, i stop his advance and slowly pull him in. Till im ahead, and then he gives up.

Man that was a nice kill the races were really close, it wasnt like me walking all over him, it was a nice slow craw to the lead. I think he was kinda pissed afterwards cause when i tried to get even to give him a thumbs up he wouldnt look over and kept changing speeds. So my exit was coming up soon, i flashed the high beams a few times and turned off. I think what really won the races was my top end all the way. As soon as i got up in the RPMS i would start pulling him in. He always had me from the start, but once that blower got a good scream going, it was all over. Muhahaha i love my sleeper, it pisses off so many v8s!!

Go to my cardomain website and look at the third picture. That's what you'll be seeing if you race me. :) Nah, I'm just messing with you...sounds like a good race. I hate when people wont give you thumbs up or anything afterwards. Sore losers.

Nice kill jayson, those 5.9's are no joke my sis drives one and the 255 hp (i think) is pretty stout on a truck that small.

yeah, once those magnum engines get up in the RPMs, the (head design? or whatever makes them a magnum i dont remember) starts to hurt more than help. nice kill none the less, those things are quick for big heavy bricks

i don think there's such thing as a 4x4 R/T. In fact, Im sure of it

i don think there's such thing as a 4x4 R/T. In fact, Im sure of it

I don't think they are either. But you can get V-8s in Dakotas (318s untill 2000, and then it was the 4.7L SOHC-the 318s make around 230 hp or so and the 4.7s make about 235-240 hp).

i don think there's such thing as a 4x4 R/T. In fact, Im sure of it
You are correct. The R/T package was only available in 2wd, in either a Club Cab (extended cab) or Regular Cab configuration. The 5.9L engine however was availabe in Quad Cab (four door) models, both 2wd and 4wd, but it was not an R/T. The R/T package also included a better suspension setup, wheels, flares, and exhaust. And the other comments are very correct, a stock 5.9 has no top end, it just falls on it's face in the upper rpms. You have to remember, this is not a racing engine, it's a towing engine that Dodge decided to use for a performance package, but it does have potential, see sig ;) hehe

Good runs Jayson! :bigthumb:

Damn Jason, you were already on I94, might as well have continued going west to race me. :naughty:

Launching sucks at these temperatures - it looks like you can launch it like you usually do, but you end up spinning the tires. Even when you're not trying to launch hard.

Well, I'll be there probably the weekend after this one, so maybe we can race then...if it doesn't snow.

really, i swear the guy had a 4x4 sticker on the back left part of the tailgate. And the side clearly said Dakota R/T 5.9. But it was a 4 door.

really, i swear the guy had a 4x4 sticker on the back left part of the tailgate. And the side clearly said Dakota R/T 5.9. But it was a 4 door.
Oh, I wasn't calling bs, just sounds like a QC owner added some R/T stickers to the door. :) Altho, like I said, they were available with a 5.9, but that still doesn't make them an R/T ;) I've seen it before. Hell, I've seen R/T badges on Rams LOL

Oh, I wasn't calling bs, just sounds like a QC owner added some R/T stickers to the door. :) Altho, like I said, they were available with a 5.9, but that still doesn't make them an R/T ;) I've seen it before. Hell, I've seen R/T badges on Rams LOL


Maybe he added the 4x4 stickers. Sounds like that truck kept up pretty nicely with him, do you think a non-RT could do that at those speeds? I'm just asking since I don't know anything about trucks

Maybe he added the 4x4 stickers. Sounds like that truck kept up pretty nicely with him, do you think a non-RT could do that at those speeds? I'm just asking since I don't know anything about trucks
I could see a 5.9 QC with a lil work being able to keep up. They're probably low 16 sec trucks stock with the extra weight, but the engine has the same potential as an R/T. So a bolton 5.9 QC could probably do it.

I remember reading in car and driver that the Club Cab Dakota 5.9 out preformed the R/T version. It was an older issue, when they compared the Firebird VS Cobra VS Camaro VS R/T Dakota VS GTP VS Lightning

I've seen articles where a 4.7 Dakota beat a 5.9 R/T. But it was a 5 speed 4.7 vs. the auto 5.9. Not to mention it takes a bit of finesse to get a decent launch out of even a stock R/T. No biggie tho, fastest 4.7 I've heard of runs mid 12's, no problem :iceslolan

Its pretty cool that Dodge even stuck a 5.9L V8 in a midsize truck in the first place. That's bigger then the Hemi. I wish Chevrolet would of done that with the S-10 :mad:.

Nice kill. What an A-hole for not sticking around. Should have passed him or something. I usually get a smile on my face when I lose. And I definately wanna see what they've got under the hood.

Those 5.9l have a hell of a launch if they stick. I saw one launch at a stoplight and it looked like he was AWD. He probably just got lucky like I do every now and then and stuck a good launch.

I remember reading in car and driver that the Club Cab Dakota 5.9 out preformed the R/T version. It was an older issue, when they compared the Firebird VS Cobra VS Camaro VS R/T Dakota VS GTP VS Lightning

What mag was it, those just happen to be some of my favorite cars(minus the camaro).

How can you like the firebird/trans am platform and not the camaro?

Pontiac>Chevy :lol: J/P it's more like Pontiac sexier than Chevy :biggrin: I try to look at that myself and honestly I don't have an answer for you there. I just love TA's and I don't like Camaros. I could never own one over a Trans Am, or ever own one period. After I owned my TA, I couldn't look at any other muscle car the same way. That's just me, and possibly, it could be the same with most TA owners. Late...

Aren't they the exact same car? And in the 80's they had interchangable body parts!? The same motor? Same horse? (Im talking newest gen) Same interior? Wtf is the differance!?

The only difference is appearance. I personally prefer the WS6 trans am over all cars. But, I still like SS camaros and Z28s alot.

What mag was it, those just happen to be some of my favorite cars(minus the camaro).

I think they compared the WS6, SS, Mustang GT, Dakota RT, Lightning, and GTP. It was a battle of "muslecars" done a couple years ago by MotorTrend.

By the way, I agree about the TA/SS stuff. I wouldn't buy an SS but would a WS6...although the interior doesn't quite do it for me. There's just something about that more agressive look of the WS6.

Them SS camaros are pretty bad ass.

I would never touch a Camaro, but would love to have a WS6.

How can you like the firebird/trans am platform and not the camaro?


Ive been raised as anti chevy, but we've owned some pontiacs and I like the rear and front of the WS6(scoops and wing). It looks abit more agressive. Gah, now youve made me drool over 1967 Firebird 400s...

my buddy has a 99 R/T. They redline at something like 4500 rpm. I dont remember, but its low. They run low 15 stock, I believe, which isn't bad. Personally, I think they make a better burnout truck than a racing machine in stock form. They sure do light up that rubber pretty easy

I remember racing a few R/T's in my mountaineer and well...they were slow? unless they were both fake...

I also raced on in my crx he claimed to have had a 150shot, he kept up pretty nice, but top end he could just not hang. He was deff on the bottle though.

True redline is really up near 7K, but stock they shift at 4800. The stock valve train won't handle much past 5500 rpms (currently I'm shifting at 5400, I'll be pulling 6K on the new setup). It's a towing motor, so in stock form it's all about lowend torque, which of course is great for burnouts, especially in a truck. Mine ran 15.3 stock, 14.8 with some minor mods (tb, intake, exhaust), then I was hooked and decided to get serious. As far as the Mountaineer goes, anything can happen on the street, could have been fakes, or just could have been poorly driven stock R/T's. I've seen R/T's run 16's at the track, takes a lil finesse to get 'em to launch decent. Can't just mash it with street tires. A light mod/stock R/T with a 150 shot should be running solid 13's, possibly faster depending on which boltons he has. What does your CRX run? As I've said before, in stock form these trucks have NO topend at all, but with the right mods you can get 'em moving pretty good. With my current setup I'm definitely pulling harder on the topend than I am down low, might do some 4.56's to help with that tho ;)

My crx was 13's capable, Im working on a new setup that will be faster.

Right on, me too ;)

nice kill jayson

dont you love being a sleeper no one every expects it out of a cavalier

man to bad you didnt live closer, it sucks that im the only one within 200miles of my area that has a fast Cavalier :mad:

anyways nice kill on that dakota, i got the same feeling when i beat my first mustang Gt, because i used to own a 02 convertable Gt right before my Z24 and Blazer

see ya on JBO :evillol: