Info on the New H3


aves911
01-30-2005, 11:00 PM
This information is from www.hummer.com:

The H3 is designed to get you through most off-road obstacles unscathed with its fully welded steel frame, embossed front skidplate, 9.1 inches of ground clearance, and full undercarriage protection. The H3 is also particularly adept in water, being able to ford 24 inches at 5 mph and 16 inches at 20 mph. And a 37.5 degree approach angle coupled with a 35.5 degree departure angle will help you get rid of most of your hang-ups.

Since the H3 was designed to handle extreme off-road conditions, it stands to reason that it's surefooted on-road as well, but that didn't stop our engineers from adding a few "just in case" features, you know, just in case. The swing gate is mounted with a full-sized spare, the standard On Star comes with a 1-year Safe and Sound Service Plan, and remote keyless entry with a panic button provides the driver with an heightened sense of security.

Powering the all new H3 is the Vortec 3500 engine. It turns out 220 hp and 225 lb/ft of torque at 2800 rpm with either the 5-speed manual or the available 4-speed automatic transmission.

With options like 6 exterior colors, 6 interior choices and over 10 factory approved accessories, you can be sure you'll be able to create a HUMMER that is all your own.


Unfortunately, the pictures we got at the auto show didn't turn out quite as well as we would have liked and we didn't get a great shot of the H3 by itself. There is also more information on the H3 release at AutomotiveArticles.com

Here is the article: www.automotivearticles.com/Hummer_H3_.shtml

Mrbikerman
03-16-2005, 05:59 AM
9.1 inches of ground clearance?!? Hope thats at the very bottom of the rear diff or something. A Ford RANGER has 9.5". Damn, Hummer used to be cool

Jaguar D-Type
05-14-2005, 08:11 PM
Hummer still is cool.

The H3 needs the Vortec 4200 I-6 which now generates 291 hp in the 2006 Chevy Trailblazer at 6,000 rpm and 277 lb–ft of torque at 3,600 rpm. 90 percent of the torque is available from 1,600 rpm to 5,600 rpm.

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Jaguar D-Type
05-30-2005, 03:07 PM
The following is from autoweek.com:

"A Hummer is big and brash, has a certain sex appeal and commands respect where the pavement ends. A simple rebadge/reskin of the Colorado, a commendable truck in its own right, wouldn’t be enough to create a Hummer’s Hummer. Fortunately, the 2006 H3 isn’t just a reskinned Colorado.

A major component carried over from the Colorado (and one of our causes for concern) is the inline five-cylinder, the only engine offered. The H3 tips the scales at 4700 pounds, and moving it is a lot to ask of a 3.5-liter twin-cam motor that makes just 220 hp and 225 lb-ft of torque. Why didn’t GM use the 4.2-liter, 275-hp 275-lb-ft inline six found in the TrailBlazer? Hummer says it won’t fit (or it won’t fit without some expensive chassis re-engineering, that is).

Aside from the engine, transmission and some structural metal, less than 10 percent of the Colorado can be found on the H3.

The new Hummer measures 85.5 inches wide and 74.5 inches high compared to 68.6 inches and 67.0 inches for the largest Colorado. H3 is wider and taller than the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Toyota 4Runner and the Nissan Pathfinder, the trucks Hummer says are its main opponents in this market.

The H3’s front track is pushed out 5.4 inches to 65.0 inches, and the rear gains 8.0 inches, taking it to 65.5 inches. Instead of the Colorado’s two-stage multi-leaf springs, the H3 uses a single-stage leaf spring for better off-road compliance. While a Colorado-like torsion-bar setup with an 8.0-millimeter-thicker antiroll bar is retained up front, shock absorbers and brakes are upgraded to further differentiate the H3.

What can be immediately observed is a body that looks just like an H2—from a distance. The only substantial deviations to the H3 from its bigger sibling are the four squarely flared fenders and a hood that opens the old-fashion*ed way. The H3 will not be mistaken for anything but a Hummer.

The cockpit takes a less utilitarian, in-your-face approach. The interior is simple and functional with the gauges and center controls trimmed in brushed metal. There is some hard plastic, mainly on the dash and the upper door panels. Cloth seats are standard, while optional leather seats with contrasting trim, like those found in the Land Rover Range Rover, give the H3 an upscale look.

The steering wheel provides a thick, beefy grip befitting the rugged Hummer persona. So, too, does the floor-mounted shift lever for the automatic transmission.

We first sampled a five-speed- manual H3 on pavement. Shift action is truck-like, which is to say, long and bulky. The gearbox, part of the 10 percent carried over from Colorado, performs with a minimum of fuss.

There is fuss, though, if you try highway-passing maneuvers at 60 mph, or suicide merges from parking lots into two lanes of traffic.

Downshifting is a slow process that takes some getting used to. With peak torque at 2800 rpm and peak power at 5600 rpm, we often found it necessary to run to redline in second and third gears around the city. Even making a quick pass on the highway at 65 mph forced us to downshift to third. This will make it hard for owners to match the EPA’s 16/20-mpg city/highway rating.

The four-speed automatic with a 4.56 final drive (vs. 4.10 in the manual) feels more adept at the same duties, and is our transmission of choice for the H3. Either way, the only way around the inline five’s sluggishness is to plan ahead. Once you finally do reach highway velocity, it cruises quietly and is pleasantly smooth.

Those slow city maneuvers led us back to our initial concern: the fear H3’s mass-appeal, mass-production ambitions would come at the expense of Hummer-ness. So off we ventured to the Woodpecker Mine and Martinez Canyon trails on the outskirts of Phoenix, where off-roading is a local pastime, to test the H3’s mettle.

The H3 welcomed mile after mile of jagged rocks and three-foot boulder passes that left dents in the skid plates and trail rash on every guard. One H3 in the group emerged from the trek with a nice gash in its door. Another cut a tire. To be sure, a Colorado couldn’t handle such a challenge.

That’s because the H3’s 4x4 drivetrain is substantially changed. The Isuzu-sourced transfer case in the Colorado is replaced by a Borg-Warner unit with a lockable high and low range and optional electronic rear differential lock (our off-roading H3 was so equipped) for crawling over those boulders. A new electronically controlled throttle changes sensitivity, as does traction control, with each setting.

Approach and departure angles of 39.4 and 36.5 degrees with the optional 33-inch 285/75R-16C Bridgestone Dueler tires (standard fare is 32-inch 265/75R-16 Good-year Wrangler RT/S), 9.1 inches of ground clearance and a crawl-ratio range between 33 and 69 degrees further uphold the Hummer name.

The H3’s rugged nature is reflected in a tow rating of 4500 pounds (3000 for the five-speed manual), 500 pounds more than that for the Colorado.

The base H3, with five-speed manual, power windows and locks, one year of OnStar and a CD player, starts at $29,500. Option it up with goodies like heated leather seats, a navigation system, sun-roof and off-road package with those 33-inch Bridgestones, 4.03:1 transfer case, stiffer shocks and locking rear differential, and the price tucks in just under $40,000.

Most buyers will end up somewhere in the middle, and that puts the new H3 and its 220 hp right up against the 230-hp Grand Cherokee and the 4Runner and Pathfinder, both with 270 hp, in price.

If you always wanted a go-anywhere H2 but could never afford one, or dreamed about living out a pop-culture fantasy, this new “Hummer for the people” could be your ticket.

Sure you’ll have to sacrifice some power, but character counts for a lot. Thankfully and crucially, this Hummer H3 is more than a Chevy Colorado in disguise.

other pictures

Standard skid plates

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33 inch tires

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cesguz
06-01-2005, 02:37 PM
I`m agree, hummer used to be cool when the original H1 was used for off roading thing.
Now hummer (H2 and H3) is for dady´s boys who wants to impress other people.

H1 rules because is the original Hummer, because it´s rude and excellent for off roadin´ That is for what it´s made

H2 is nice to go to nice people places like partys and doesn´t deserve to be called hummer because it´s not made for off roading. This SUV/T is 4x4 but, cadillac scalade is also 4x4

Elk
08-18-2005, 08:56 PM
H2 is nice to go to nice people places like partys and doesńt deserve to be called hummer because it́s not made for off roading.
The H2 IS made for off-roading. Do you actually know anything about the H2? Have you ever been off-roading? Do you even know anything about off-roading?

G-man422
08-19-2005, 08:02 AM
Hell yes it's made for off roading! The H2 isnt as good as the H1 granted, but the H2 is most deff. the 2nd best off roading machine out there that comes ready to go,.... stock!

cesguz
08-19-2005, 11:34 PM
Hello Elk! Actually, I own a 2001 H1 and a 2005 H2, I also own a 2002 Jeep Sahara, and right now I´m considering in buying an H3 for my wife.

you may want to see my gallery, there you will see some nice pictures of what off road means.

I drive my H1 for extreme off roading and long trips, my jeep Sahara for really extreme off roading but short trips, and my H2 SUT just to drive it in my hometown, ahh, I also usually use my H2 SUT to pull my jeep when I participate in 4x4 challenges

I have tried to use the H2 in off roading thing but is too weak for that.
Me and my friends are members of a 4x4 club and we use to go off roading every weekend, sometimes we use to go on long trips to the beach, the mountain, desert, etc

Two months ago we suffered a terrible flood here, and emergency services asked for our help to rescue some people, we used our 4x4 equipment.

As you see, I really know what off roading means!! and also I know that the H2 is not recommended for off roading, maybe it´s useful to drive it in secondary roads!


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G-man422
08-22-2005, 01:24 PM
CESGUZ, how do you like your H2? is it an off roading machine? just trying to get the facts straight for these people.

Elk
08-22-2005, 05:31 PM
I have tried to use the H2 in off roading thing but is too weak for that.
Did you brake something on it? Have you tried off-roading H2 with the step bars remove and better tires?

I know the H2 is not as good as the H1, but it can handle a lot more then secondary roads.

cesguz
09-20-2005, 03:53 PM
Hi G-man422, I have driven my H2 for a year right now and let me tell you it´s an excellent truck, very beautiful and rude at the same time, also it´s soo comfortable. It´s a nice and fun driving machine. But I don´t think is made for rude off roading.

For example:

1.- My brother tried to cross a 3 feet deep river with an H2 SUV and the engine shot off, when he finally could start the engine again it was too late, my brother was swimming in to the H2 and the whole interior was so wet that we had to take the H2 to an specialist to wash them, the smell was terrible!!! we still don´t know why the engine shot off, the air filter was dry, so the air intake was not the problem.

2.- A friends H2 SUT first got an annoying noise, it was the catalyzer, he had to take it to the dealer and he got a new catalyzer. Then he got another annoying noise on the roof rack, again he had to take it to the dealer, then he got a broken tied rod when he was off roading.

Hello Elk, That´s why I don´t want to take a risk and I just use my H2 on the city not for off roading. because I don´t want to brake something.

Jaguar D-Type
11-22-2005, 08:50 PM
The Hummer H3 will race in next year’s Dakar Rally, piloted by American Robby Gordon.

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Jaguar D-Type
12-17-2005, 12:35 AM
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G-man422
12-18-2005, 06:28 PM
Nice!

Jaguar D-Type
01-01-2006, 11:42 PM
Check the link to follow Robby Gordon and the Dakar rally.

http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publish/cat_index_60.shtml

Jaguar D-Type
01-08-2006, 12:09 AM
The Dakar Rally is a 5,600-mile race from Lisbon, Portugal to Dakar, Senegal.

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Elk
01-08-2006, 12:19 AM
The Dakar Rally is a 5,600-mile race from Lisbon, Portugal to Dakar, Senegal.

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Cool but it doesn’t mean much because unlike the H3 that won the Baja this vehicle doesn’t actually have anything in common with H3 people can buy from there local dealership.

Jaguar D-Type
01-21-2006, 06:39 AM
That's true.

The owner of this H3 claims that he didn't bottom out even after doing it several times.

His website

http://www.golilm.com

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Jimster
02-15-2006, 10:29 PM
Hell yes it's made for off roading! The H2 isnt as good as the H1 granted, but the H2 is most deff. the 2nd best off roading machine out there that comes ready to go,.... stock!
Let's not get silly now.


The Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Commander, Land Rover Discovery, Land Rover Defender, Range Rover, Mercedes Geladnewagen, Toyota Landcruiser, Toyota Landcruiser Amazon, Volkswagen Touareg and Nissan Patrol all eat the H2 for breakfast as far as offroading is concerned.


The H2 is about lineball with the Mitsubishi Pajero (Montero), Porsche Cayenne and Nissan Pathfider. (These cars are the next step down from those above)

Elk
02-16-2006, 02:38 AM
Let's not get silly now.


The Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Commander, Land Rover Discovery, Land Rover Defender, Range Rover, Mercedes Geladnewagen, Toyota Landcruiser, Toyota Landcruiser Amazon, Volkswagen Touareg and Nissan Patrol all eat the H2 for breakfast as far as offroading is concerned.
The Wrangler (and in some cases the G-Wangen) are only vehicles on your list that can out perform the H2. The rest of the vehicles you listed don’t have the approach or departure angles even close to the H2 and would easily get stuck on stuff that wouldn’t even touch the H2. In addition to that: The Grand Cherokee (Commander is just a Cherokee with a new body) can’t even make it up a muddy hill Video (http://www.drivingtelevision.com/segmentviewer.php?episode=212&segment=4). All Land Rover tip-over on a 30 degree side slope wall all Hummers can do 40. The Toyota Landcruiser Amazon is the city SUV version of the Landcruiser, it doesn’t even have a locking rear diff. And I don’t even know why the Touareg is on your list, is it because of all those mag articles where the author drives it around on pavement and then wrights about how good VW said the Touareg is off-road?

Jimster
02-16-2006, 05:55 PM
The Wrangler (and in some cases the G-Wangen) are only vehicles on your list that can out perform the H2. The rest of the vehicles you listed don’t have the approach or departure angles even close to the H2 and would easily get stuck on stuff that wouldn’t even touch the H2. In addition to that: The Grand Cherokee (Commander is just a Cherokee with a new body) can’t even make it up a muddy hill Video (http://www.drivingtelevision.com/segmentviewer.php?episode=212&segment=4). All Land Rover tip-over on a 30 degree side slope wall all Hummers can do 40. The Toyota Landcruiser Amazon is the city SUV version of the Landcruiser, it doesn’t even have a locking rear diff. And I don’t even know why the Touareg is on your list, is it because of all those mag articles where the author drives it around on pavement and then wrights about how good VW said the Touareg is off-road?

The Landcruiser Amazon is the European name for the full fat Landrcuiser you moron, the Land Cruiser is the European name for the Land Cruiser Prado. So just because an H2 can handle 10 more degrees on a side-sloped wall, that makes it better than the Land Rovers? So all other stuff is unimportant then?? Yeah right. Defenders have served the British army and farmers proudly for 40 years, H2's have served Sandra Soccermom and FIDDY CENT y0 in thier trek to the supermarket or GHETTO y0!

The Touareg is an excellent offroader, it's fully loaded for offroading (air suspension, triple skid plates, locking center and rear diff, water sealed doors, etc.) Since you think breakover angles are so important, the Touareg has a 28 degree breakover angle, that's more than an H2 (25 degrees), with apporach and departure angles only a small way off (about 3-4 degrees, hardly a big deal) Those are with the air supension optional on V6 and 5 Cylinder Turbo diesel, standard on V6 TDi, V8 and V10 TDi. Maybe if your head wasn't so far up the H2's ass you'd actually realise it's simply not as good as the VW.

But then who cares out big the rock or log that you can clear is, because there's so much more to offroading than that, things like: gearing, tires, torque bias, wheelbase, strength of parts, center of gravity (Where the H1 tripped up)- This is what most SUV's hold over the H2. Besides, the H2's shitty breakover angle makes its huge departure/approach angles not worth a shit.



None of these cars snap tie rods with extremely light rock-crawling either.... Also good luck offroading on those ridiculous "Bling Bling fiddy cent y0" baloon tyres....

Elk
02-19-2006, 01:08 AM
The Landcruiser Amazon is the European name for the full fat Landrcuiser you moron, the Land Cruiser is the European name for the Land Cruiser Prado. So just because an H2 can handle 10 more degrees on a side-sloped wall, that makes it better than the Land Rovers? So all other stuff is unimportant then?? Yeah right. Defenders have served the British army and farmers proudly for 40 years, H2's have served Sandra Soccermom and FIDDY CENT y0 in thier trek to the supermarket or GHETTO y0!
It’s the city version of the Landcruiser, it’s the same one Toyota sells in the U.S. This is the off-road version: link (http://lc78.toyota.com.au/toyota/vehicle/Gallery/0,4667,1975_702_0_0,00.html) You can get it with locking front and rear diffs and Toyota only sells it in some countries. And my point about Land Rovers is wall they have the same off-road stuff as the H2 there held back by the fact that there tippy.

The Touareg is an excellent offroader, it's fully loaded for offroading (air suspension, triple skid plates, locking center and rear diff, water sealed doors, etc.) Since you think breakover angles are so important, the Touareg has a 28 degree breakover angle, that's more than an H2 (25 degrees), with apporach and departure angles only a small way off (about 3-4 degrees, hardly a big deal) Those are with the air supension optional on V6 and 5 Cylinder Turbo diesel, standard on V6 TDi, V8 and V10 TDi. Maybe if your head wasn't so far up the H2's ass you'd actually realise it's simply not as good as the VW.
The H2 has an option air suspension. It comes standard with skid plates/steel tube protection under the H2 and steel tube rocker panel protection so it can slide in it’s side without taking damage. And locking center and rear diffs.
The Touareg’s breakover angle with out the air suspension is 22 degrees, with it’s 27.2. link (http://www.nctd.com/printversion-review.cfm?ReviewID=1398) And it’s approach and departure angles are 28.2/28.6 without the air suspension and 33.2/33.6 with.
The H2 with the air suspension has a 27.5 degree breakover. And it has a approach and departure angle of 40.8/39.6 without the air suspension and 42.8/40.0 with.

But then who cares out big the rock or log that you can clear is, because there's so much more to offroading than that, things like: gearing, tires, torque bias, wheelbase, strength of parts, center of gravity (Where the H1 tripped up)- This is what most SUV's hold over the H2. Besides, the H2's shitty breakover angle makes its huge departure/approach angles not worth a shit.
The H2 has 4.10:1 axles and 2.64:1 low gear, 35" tires, locking diffs, it’s long wheelbase is there to give it a 60 degree ascent/decent capacity (Touareg’s max is 45), it’s parts are strong they came form GM’s 3/4 ton trucks, Hummers more stable going up or driving on the side of a hill then any other SUV on the market.

None of these cars snap tie rods with extremely light rock-crawling either.... Also good luck offroading on those ridiculous "Bling Bling fiddy cent y0" baloon tyres....
Click on this link (http://www.hummerxclub.com/gallery.html) and then click on some of the links there and you will see pictures and video of H2s doing way more then light rock-crawling with out breaking anything. About the balloon tires. First the H2 got them because there good for off-roading they flex more which is good for traction, don’t get pinched between the ground and wheel causing a flat and keep the rim from getting damaged. Second the bling bling look is low-profile tires. Like what’s on the Touareg or Range Rover Sport.

StickyMedia
04-15-2010, 10:36 AM
I nonetheless agree with that,But at least Americas Macho Hummer took part a very important lead not just the rough American roads anywhere like IRAQ and afghan

StickyMedia
04-15-2010, 10:54 AM
Does Hummer deserves a vote as one of Americas greatest vehicle?

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