Hey everyone, whats some 90's cars that run 0-60 in under 6 seconds, and the 1/4 under 14 sec's..STOCK..Import or Domestic..? :screwy:

So far...i'm set on a 96 Z28...cause the LT1 is SO much cheaper then a 98 LS1... But, i might save up more...just to get a 98SS..cause i love that car, especially with the ram air hood w/ls1. :naughty:

I also seen some mid 90's VR4's from Mitsubishi...I always loved these cars, especially the AWD. :smokin:

Another thing...if i'm gonna spend over 15K for a 98SS..do you think i'm better off financing/buying an 05 SRT4 and putting stage3 mopar on it (how much is that anyways $$$..?).. I always liked small..fast cars that are 4 door, but the front drive would be killing me cause i got so used to rwd...more fun. :evillol:

PS.. if it's a used car, it's gotta be under like 17K.. :banghead:

older gs't and gs'x are easily capable of under 14's for cheap

93-95 RX-7
Syclone, Typhoon
LT1/LS1 F-Body
Buick Grand National....late 80's though.

Yeah those rx7's are hott. I think i'm leaning to the 3 cars i mentioned. 98SS/VR4/SRT4..

Lol, i still got about 6months to decide..and to save up the extra pennies......

my car ('92 vette) will run the 1/4 in 13.6-13.9 depending. 13.6 was my best ever, my usual is high 13s though. I paid 14 grand for it. My only mod is BFG DRs on the back.

You can have a 10 second foxbody for that kind of money.

89-92 probe gt, a little slower but still quick
0-60 7.5-7.0 (good driver) sec
1/4 15.6-15.1(good driver)

that for the turbo ver tho..

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MKIV supra TT
99+ mustang GT
FD3S Rx-7 TT
any year NSX if u can afford it seen a 92 w/92k miles go for 21k
z32 300zx TT

Grand Prix GTP, in its stock form it can do low 15's high 14's. With minor mods, and i mean minor they can easily do 13's. I saw a guy at the track with a Buick Regal, same engine with the supercharger, he had a smaller pulley and was running high 13's. The GTP's have a pretty big aftermarket and a strong start. The monte Carlo SS supercharged is also the same thing.

Grand Prix GTP, in its stock form it can do low 15's high 14's.

i agree. Anything that comes with a supercharger/turbocharger stock from the factory is going to be easy to at least dip into the low 14s.

yea definately go fox body ... for that money easy 11's... not too sure about 10's though... but i mean with the money you'll be saving.. anything is possible

foxbody+supercharged 347 = high 10s.

Or if you want a nice car that's still quick

the 98SS
or a mid 90's VR4

Unless insurance is an issue. :P

(Both of them are good for under 14's ;)

All LS1 cars are capable of high 12s with very minor bolt ons. And..I don't know much about the VR4s..

All LS1 cars are capable of high 12s with very minor bolt ons. And..I don't know much about the VR4s..
with a boost controller d/pipe catback and decent tuning the twin turbos will propel it in the 12s very VERY easily

ah.. i was talking about without supercharging it...

a buddy of my dad's has a 302 that's pushing 800hp he's been working on... putting it in a foxbody with all fixed internals.... can't wait to see it on the road...

same guy who put a 425hp 302 in my dad's 95 f150 truck... he's kick ass. He's also the guy who will be custom making my exaust once i get the funds together

with a boost controller d/pipe catback and decent tuning the twin turbos will propel it in the 12s very VERY easily


You dont even need all that, intake, downpipe, and boost controller is all, it can be done for under $400, and you'll have a vr4 running 12.8

So I guess it would be fair to say the LS1s and VR4s are pretty equal. The VR4 has AWD..which is very helpful when launching. BUt, I'd still go for a foxbody. I'm a mustang guy...and I've seen minimum work done to make foxbodys fly. Pushrod technology is ancient..so imagine all the aftermarket there is for them.

But. The VR-4 and the LS1 F-Bodys, are still Nicer than a foxbody. Granted that would be my first choice for a go fast car. But from the information the S=A has posted I don't think he's looking for a car that's absolutely gonna fly. Then again, I might be wrong.

So nice to see the VR4 getting some props. Its one of the most highly underrated Turbo import.

Man that VR4 is looking good to me. Especially AWD-you can't beat that. The only problem i see with these cars is the weight 3700+/-... BUT, the twin turbo 6 makes up for it. I was reading a review on www.nctd.com (good site) and they said nothing about turbo lag either.

The LS1 SS.....yum.... I love that car, but even though i'm a DIEHARD american car fan..i'm leaning towards the VR4. The V8 in the camaro is like..well, AWESOME. Nothing like a V8, the sound, the push, the raw torque etc.

Mustangs....i love them too, BUT, everywhere i go i see them, even the SVT cobra's. I'd like to pull up to them with a not-so-common-car and smoke there ass with a low 12's VR4 (after some mods)..

At the end of the day...i want a nice, fast car. Something i can wax every 2 weeks, yet still use it as a daily driver.. Thats like my 95 thunderbird now..it's in immaculate condition, i keep this car in such good shape. Yet sometimes, i say to myself, this cars a POS compared to what i want..so why do i even bother..? Lol.. Well, it is my first good looking car..with a decent amount of power (4.6L) from a guy driving 4 bangers for the past 4 years.

I was thinking about maybe just juicing up my tbird...? But nah, i'd have to do ALOT of work-to much work to get this car in below mid 14's, along with an OVERALL well handling car.

BTW, how do mitsu turbos hold up..? Whats the life of them..?

If i got a VR4, say a 95 with 60K/80K miles....how long before the turbos go BOOM.. Lol..

So I guess it would be fair to say the LS1s and VR4s are pretty equal. The VR4 has AWD..which is very helpful when launching. BUt, I'd still go for a foxbody. I'm a mustang guy...and I've seen minimum work done to make foxbodys fly. Pushrod technology is ancient..so imagine all the aftermarket there is for them.

yup i say u buy a Mustang and hook it all up with the money thast left.




Mustangs....i love them too, BUT, everywhere i go i see them, even the SVT cobra's. I'd like to pull up to them with a not-so-common-car and smoke there ass with a low 12's VR4 (after some mods)..

Cobras are high 12's low 13's sec cars. and there very easy 2 double there hp. just get a minor mods and u can easily be in the 11's. i saw a guy who invested 3500 in the motor and tuning that he got around 450 to 600 i cant remember but it was around there.

The VR4 is pretty crazy man if i had 2 pick of any of this cars ill pick the Vr4 i already have a 5.0 so ill just take that Vr4. man u got 2 love that AWD and Twin Turbo.

AdRiAn

If you don't want a stang..I'd say for the LS1. But it sounds like you have your mind made up about the VR4.

The vr4s is underappreciated because everyone is so quick to bring up the fact that they weigh 3800 and the parasitic drivetrain loss of power with AWD...however you ask any owner and they will tell you these 2 facts are highly overstated. Yes, a RWD 8 cylinder will walk away from a stock vr4 after 100, but I have walked plenty of LS1s, stangs, cobras, etc up to 100.

As far as the turbos reliability and lag...they are factory TD04-9b turbos...they are so small there is no lag, in fact you ask any turbo car owner, lag on a TD04 housing is barely noticeable...if you are racing the car, you already have it tacked up plenty high for the AWD launch that the turbos are already fulled spooled at the launch. So the only time turbo lag has ever been a problem for me is if I'm cruising at 2k in 6th gear and somebody flies by me and I want to take pursuit...but all that power is only a downshift away.
As far as reliability these turbos are fine. They should last well over 100k if the car has been properly maintained and the turbos have had sufficient cool down time after being beaten on. A sure sign of this is the presence of a turbo timer.
Plus if you ever do happen to have turbo failure...thats always a great excuse for upgrading...if you havn't already. If you have any more questions regarding a vr4, swing by the 3000gt section of AF. We have a great FAQ and stuff.

The Nissan Skyline GTR R32 and R33 can reach well under the 14s and 0-60 on both is estimated like...4.9-5.2 seconds. DSMs are especially easy to mod at those years.

Uh, guys....he said STOCK...get a 93-96 LT1 camaro....best bang for buck out there IMO.

Then the best bang for buck would be a 98 SS.

Then the best bang for buck would be a 98 SS.

I would actually go for a 98-99 Z-28 or Formula. Both are LS1 powered cars, sell for cheaper, and are lighter. Don't quite have the looks, but are close.


I know little about the VR4's. I have read with minimal mods they will hit 12's. Curious to what they trap at??
I ask, because I have a feeling the LS1 powered car would be a faster street/highway/cruiser type car. And that might be what he is looking for.

Stock they trap a bit lower than an LS1...94-99s run 13.6ish at 100.5mph on average.

If you want pure go for not too much go for the camaro (LS1 or LT1, SS is a waste of money in my opinion since its just a dressed up Z28), If you like looks speed handling and lots of standard options get the VR4, if you like the sound of a turbo FF neon then get that. My preference is the VR4 and I should be getting one very soon, let us know what you think your decision will be in 6 months. Also don't be a stranger, feel free to stop by the 3000GT forum with any questions (I'm shure the camaro guys wouldent mind either).

Thanks guys.. igovert, thanks for explaining that-about the turbo's.. :iceslolan

Today my friend let me hop into the drivers seat of his 00 SE Maxima, i wanted to get a feel of how these cars (FWD) handled up at 80/100 mph. Looks like i'm not getting the SRT4...or any other front drive vehicle. I got used to the nice precise steering a RWD gives you. I couldn't stand the way his max was pulling straight, especially when taking corners at a good rate. :uhoh:

It's been a while since i drove a FWD that fast...fun though.. One thing i can tell you, those maxima's are SMOOTH at 90. Whats gonna settle this...? A test drive. I gotta get the feel of that AWD mitsu before anything, cause thats a BIG role. I like the looks of the VR4 MUCH better then a standard Z28 camaro..or even a 98SS.. BUT, if i can get an LS1 w/ram air double scoop hood (WS6 i believe) that would make my ass CRUNK...lol.. Those hoods are badass.. :cwm27:

Stock...well, being that i'm no mechanic, and don't know to much about adding mods and stuff i'd want a fast, stock car. After a while, i'd learn some stuff...and make it even faster. :naughty:

BTW, can't wait to see how bad them AWD's understeer.. :banghead:

BTW, can't wait to see how bad them AWD's understeer.. :banghead:

Actually not very badly. I had the VR4 to the limit once around a very loooong, sharp turn, and by the end I couldn't see straight and it stayed right where I was hoping (and praying) it would.

BUT, if i can get an LS1 w/ram air double scoop hood (WS6 i believe) that would make my ass CRUNK...lol.. Those hoods are badass.. :cwm27:

Great cars. :p

You may also have All wheel steering with a VR-4 :smile:

sure, get a 4.9L mustang! haha i <3 teasing the 5.oh guys. anyways, the VR4 looks awesome and is fast, but its really quite heavy. if you're looking at 1/4 drag racing go RWD, less driveline loss and lighter. 1/8 mile, AWD is ur best bet. road racing, its all in your preference. i love camaros, and i love vr4s, it would be hard to pick, id go with whichever you can get a better deal on.

Well my maxima, when it was the stock suspension height, didn't understeer all that badly at all, it was predictable and only noticibly if you went crazy with it into a turn...when I got my springs, the handling became almost neutral....however stock for stock, it is nowhere near as fast as a Z28...I guess it depends on if you want finesse through the corners, or brute speed down the straightaway.