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2007 GTR goes global!


r35forums.com
01-21-2005, 06:12 PM
Well, Carlos Ghosn kept his word. We did a bit of research and found alot of information. Here you will see trademarks which have been registered by NISSAN MOTOR CO, LTD(Nissan Jidoshi KK) in CANADA!, the U.S., Australia, and the U.K.! Also, infiniti looks to be coming out with a 'nismo' like performace division, have a look. This is official, and by golly I would make this a sticky If I had the power to do so.
Its no lie anymore, everyone in the above mentioned countries will see a gtr, some of them (like the U.S.) for the first time!
http://r35forum.com/index.php?showtopic=48

5 Point 7
01-23-2005, 06:43 PM
I think bringing the Skyline to the U.S. and others, is a GREAT move by Nissan, BUT (IMO) if they make it look like a G35, that would be the stupidest thing EVER! They shouldn't even make it anything besides a Nissan Skyline GT-S or GT-R :nono: !!PERIOD!! And that engine shouldn't even be a "V" But they are in charge but I think it would be a discrase...like a new Camaro with a supercharged 24V 6 cyl. :nono: :nono:

Well no one even knows for sure about ANYTHING, so no need to speculate... My :2cents:

VQuick
01-24-2005, 11:14 AM
I think bringing the Skyline to the U.S. and others, is a GREAT move by Nissan, BUT (IMO) if they make it look like a G35, that would be the stupidest thing EVER!
It's a little late for that. :lol: The G35 is nearly identical to the current Skyline.

Now the GT-R? That's what we're waiting for.

They shouldn't even make it anything besides a Nissan Skyline GT-S or GT-R :nono: !!PERIOD!!
Well, the current V35s are better than the previous non GT-Rs by a wide margin. They even hang with the GT-Rs in some areas.

And that engine shouldn't even be a "V" But they are in charge but I think it would be a discrase...like a new Camaro with a supercharged 24V 6 cyl. :nono: :nono:
Well, what do you think it should be?

You have to admit, though: A lighter, smaller aluminum block 3.2L V6 with semi wet sump oiling and electric turbo assistance is pretty good.

1viadrft
01-24-2005, 01:53 PM
And that engine shouldn't even be a "V" But they are in charge but I think it would be a discrase...like a new Camaro with a supercharged 24V 6 cyl. :nono: :nono:

Well no one even knows for sure about ANYTHING, so no need to speculate... My :2cents:

What? How do you think the ol' timers felt when there naturally aspirated L series engines turned to FJ turbo-charged engined cars? FJ to RB with AWD? The AWD system really weighed down the Skyline GTR. People were furious! Then they drove it...

It's called a new transition... get over it. The name of the game is ADAPT AND OVERCOME. And that's exactly what Nissan/Infinity is doing. RB is dead... get over it.

2of9
03-05-2005, 02:09 AM
wow...i just hope its Twin Turbo when it comes here and passes emissions and stuff when it comes by in the states

slideways...
03-16-2005, 07:01 PM
well its gonna for sure be based on the g35 chassis and body style. it will be called the Infiniti GT-R. thats right. no nissan no skyline. its only a name though :)
i would expect a vq30dett with almost 400 hp and AWD and possibly a more advanced HICAS but i dont know about that one

Ryu_biggie
03-17-2005, 04:51 PM
good thing it don't look like a 350z. (ugly and hell) the g35 looks so much better than a 350z. but so far i have heard awd 7 speed and a unnone motor could be a 4.5L v8 out of the fx 45 400ish HP i dought this but would still be cool, and the vq3somethingdett makeing about 450ish HP. i got my info from car and driver. don't know what month. no mader what the skyline by anyother name is still as fast.

BP2K2Max
03-18-2005, 01:01 PM
well its gonna for sure be based on the g35 chassis and body style. it will be called the Infiniti GT-R. thats right. no nissan no skyline. its only a name though :)
i would expect a vq30dett with almost 400 hp and AWD and possibly a more advanced HICAS but i dont know about that oneno, it's a nissan, and it's a skyline. you have to remember that not all skylines are GT-R's. the current base model jdm skyline is the exact same car as the usdm G35 with 280 hp 3.5 v6. the upcoming GT-R is, in japan, the skyline GT-R, here it will probably just be the nissan GT-R, i highly doubt it'd be badged as an infiniti here cuz no one other than enthusiasts seems to know the 2 companies are one. also there is no definite news release as to the displacement of the engine, it's rumored anywhere from the VQ30 that came out in '95 all the way to the new VQ40 being put into pathfinders. however i don't see whay anyone would gripe about the decision to switch to a VQ V6 as opposed to the inline RB. the aluminum blocked VQ engine is lighter than the iron blocked RB by a couple hundred pounds and the "V" layout allows them to set the engine further back in the engine bay to help retain a 50/50 front-rear weight distribution.

CapoCrimini
03-23-2005, 10:29 AM
wow...i just hope its Twin Turbo when it comes here and passes emissions and stuff when it comes by in the states


Compare the latest Supra with the 05 Supra, notice a difference? hahah

Now for a less ridiculous comparison, take the RX-7 vs RX8, or the 300ZX vs the 350Z, they are totaly different cars. RX-7 was a pure race chassis with the suspension, braking and engine to go with it, now its a lousy sedan. 300ZX used to have 4wheel steering and other high technology wich the 350Z has not.

Point is dont expect anything like a twin turbo, hicas and even awd. The next skyline will most probably be rwd and powered by a better tuned version of the vq35 or as other rumors say, a new v8 engine.

nismo_power
03-28-2005, 12:55 AM
no, it's a nissan, and it's a skyline. you have to remember that not all skylines are GT-R's. the current base model jdm skyline is the exact same car as the usdm G35 with 280 hp 3.5 v6. the upcoming GT-R is, in japan, the skyline GT-R, here it will probably just be the nissan GT-R, i highly doubt it'd be badged as an infiniti here cuz no one other than enthusiasts seems to know the 2 companies are one. also there is no definite news release as to the displacement of the engine, it's rumored anywhere from the VQ30 that came out in '95 all the way to the new VQ40 being put into pathfinders. however i don't see whay anyone would gripe about the decision to switch to a VQ V6 as opposed to the inline RB. the aluminum blocked VQ engine is lighter than the iron blocked RB by a couple hundred pounds and the "V" layout allows them to set the engine further back in the engine bay to help retain a 50/50 front-rear weight distribution.


it wont be a nissan, it will be an Infiniti, and it wont be the "r35" as people STILL THINK it will be called. Infiniti GT-R is the new name, and its here to stay. its even already registered. Incase you didnt know ALREADY, "skyline" and "GT-R" are being separated, which completly tosses your whole post out the window. the vq32 or vq30 are STRONG engines and they are lightweight, which as you said makes them better than the RB series, because of being able to place the engine better in the bay.


Point is dont expect anything like a twin turbo, hicas and even awd. The next skyline will most probably be rwd and powered by a better tuned version of the vq35 or as other rumors say, a new v8 engine.

everyone is expecting at least the twin turbo, and the v8 engine is basically tossed out the window. you guys should know this, but then again....i wont say it. rumors are pointing a vq30dett or vq32dett, seeing as how the R&D for the vq30dett is already done. the v8 engine rumor was quickly killed because it was started in the US, the guys wanting it to have a huge engine with tons of displacement. its not japans style to really do that. rumors have been pointing out that the car will be pushing upwards of 450hp.

Dr.Gonzo
04-09-2005, 02:20 AM
Who the Hell cares. 1. It's not the RB26DETT hell it's not even an Inline 6. Smokey of Top Secret and a lot of other tuners are doing the samething and saying to hell with the retarded VQ35(I doubt the French Company Renault will even read this) and either putting the M45 engine in it or finding used RB26's. From what I've read in Modified Magazine is that the VQ35 can't take being used for forced induction. So Nissan I know you are a bitch to the French car company Renault but man you sold out when it comes to the new SkyLine. That car doesn't deserve to have the Legendary Skyline name. I thought the Japanese were about honor and tradition and the way of the bushido I guess that theory is totally wrong when it comes to your company.

Dr.Gonzo
04-09-2005, 02:34 AM
"Compare the latest Supra with the 05 Supra, notice a difference? hahah

Now for a less ridiculous comparison, take the RX-7 vs RX8, or the 300ZX vs the 350Z, they are totaly different cars. RX-7 was a pure race chassis with the suspension, braking and engine to go with it, now its a lousy sedan. 300ZX used to have 4wheel steering and other high technology wich the 350Z has not.

Point is dont expect anything like a twin turbo, hicas and even awd. The next skyline will most probably be rwd and powered by a better tuned version of the vq35 or as other rumors say, a new v8 engine. " CapoCrimini

I totally agree. Companies like Mazda, Nissan, or Toyota shouldn't tease us. We know what kind of bad ass pavement dominating cars Toyota,Mazda, and Nissan can make it's like they are selling themselves short as well as the consumer. It's like th wheel sometimes you just shouldn't try to improve on a design that's flawless. Ok well the
RX7's had some issuues however the Skyline and Supra were great cars and now their new incarnations are like bastardizations of what they used to be. Have the owners of car companies Japanese and European gotten together and both partaken in stupid logic? Remember those cars got their legendary reputations b/c they performed and performed excedingly well and you can only sell different car with a legend's name for so long until we start to see past the bullshit and it's pretty thick and deep with the new Skyline.

BP2K2Max
04-09-2005, 11:00 AM
Who the Hell cares. 1. It's not the RB26DETT hell it's not even an Inline 6.the V6 design is 300 lbs lighter due to an aluminum engine block and the V6 layout also makes it so they can put the engine further back in the engine bay, so they can give the car better weight distribution.


...saying to hell with the retarded VQ35(I doubt the French Company Renault will even read this) and either putting the M45 engine in it or finding used RB26's.

the VQ series of motor has been in use since 1995. renault didn't take an interest in nissan until 1999, after the VQ had already been on wards best engines list 4 consecutive years. the 3.5 version is just an updated version of the 3.0 and has been used in the pathfinder since 2001, renault cannot take credit for it, Actually, Renault is using Nissans VQ35 in their car, the Renault Vel Satis since 2002, and they are currently making a car called the SM7 using the VQ35, however their version only makes 217 hp, whereas our versions are at 265hp in fwd platform, and 300 hp in the 35th anniversary Z, and new G35. currently the only motors nissan uses from renault are the diesels. the primera offers a 1.9L diesel renault motor and the almera uses a 1.5L version of that motor.

check this out:
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/DOC...2/ar2002_16.pdf (http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/DOCUMENT/PDF/AR/2002/ar2002_16.pdf)
it's nissans annual report for 2002. on Pg 2 it refers to the vq35 as nissans engine being placed in the vel satis then goes on to refer to the 1.9L and 1.5L diesels as renaults designs being placed into nissans cars.


From what I've read in Modified Magazine is that the VQ35 can't take being used for forced induction.

that's not what i've read. i've seen the 350Z make 400 whp with turbo's and 370-something with a V2 s/c. not to mention i've seen VQ30's take exceptionally well to FI. the 3.5 is still a new engine, it's gonna take a while but there are already turbo kits in the works for us maxima guys predicting 380 whp @6-7 PSI. if you care to, check out SSR/SFR engineering or look at this thread to see the progress. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=378986.

So Nissan I know you are a bitch to the French car company Renault but man you sold out when it comes to the new SkyLine. That car doesn't deserve to have the Legendary Skyline name. I thought the Japanese were about honor and tradition and the way of the bushido I guess that theory is totally wrong when it comes to your company.

like i said before, not all skylines are GTR's, the current base model skyline makes more NA hp than the R32,33, and 34 GTRs. nissan's not gonna fuck this up. the new GTR' gonna be a beast. things have to change and progress. they weren't gonna keep the same design forever.

Dr.Gonzo
04-09-2005, 04:32 PM
BP2K2MAX hmmm ok well maybe I jumped the gun but again the thing is that the VQ35 can make 400whp but for how long? I6's have consistently been able to make reliable high hp than V6's. 2JZ and the RB26 are perfect examples. I guess I am kind of annoyed(being a MKIII Jetta onwer)that the newer cars coming out from long time trusted car companies just look like shit and the Jetta V is no ecxeption. I just find that the new Skyline shouldn't be called a skyline since it doesn't even resemble the older Skyline. Oh well just my .02

BP2K2Max
04-09-2005, 05:48 PM
BP2K2MAX hmmm ok well maybe I jumped the gun but again the thing is that the VQ35 can make 400whp but for how long? I6's have consistently been able to make reliable high hp than V6's. 2JZ and the RB26 are perfect examples. I guess I am kind of annoyed(being a MKIII Jetta onwer)that the newer cars coming out from long time trusted car companies just look like shit and the Jetta V is no ecxeption. I just find that the new Skyline shouldn't be called a skyline since it doesn't even resemble the older Skyline. Oh well just my .02the longevity of FI on a VQ35 has yet to be proven, however they've been using turbo's on the VQ for a while. the nissan cima, cedric, and Gloria all have VQ30DET's from the factory, we just dont' get them in the usdm market. and they've been using turbo VQ30's in jgtc for quite a few years now, i believe the current JGTC Z's VQ30dett. you are right though, I6 engine's have been proven time and time again to be excellent motors with FI, hopefully the VQ35 can prove just as strong.

VQuick
04-10-2005, 06:39 PM
the thing is that the VQ35 can make 400whp but for how long?
Probably quite some time. Those low boost figures are recommended by the manufacturers of those turbo and supercharger kits. They sandbag a bit, so that they can offer a warranty. I wouldn't be surprised if close to 10psi is possible.

I6's have consistently been able to make reliable high hp than V6's. 2JZ and the RB26 are perfect examples.
The RB26 and 2JZ are dead. They can't pass emissions anymore. They were long, heavy, and weren't so great for handling. The VQ range offers more displacement and torque with less weight. The engine is also shorter(by about half), which allows for better packaging, weight distribution, and handling. Heck, even the V8 people were fussing over would have those advantages as well.

I just find that the new Skyline shouldn't be called a skyline since it doesn't even resemble the older Skyline. Oh well just my .02
Which older Skyline are you talking about? Like the 350Z, the current Skyline is sticking to its roots. The 240Z was all about simplicity and affordable(normally aspirated!) performance. Then the Zs got fatter, until you ended up with the Z32, with twin turbos and four-wheel steering.
The Skylines were originally a family of sporty sedans and coupes. The current V35 follows that tradition, with more luxury and better performance than ever. Heck, the standard CPV35 Skyline GT350 Coupe managed to lap the Tsukuba circuit faster than an R32 GT-R in Best Motoring. If that isn't progress, I don't know what is.

Smokey of Top Secret and a lot of other tuners are doing the same thing and saying to hell with the retarded VQ35(I doubt the French Company Renault will even read this) and either putting the M45 engine in it or finding used RB26's.
Yeah. Keep in mind Top Secret also put one of those 'retarded VQ35s' in an R34 GT-R. ;)

I thought the Japanese were about honor and tradition and the way of the bushido I guess that theory is totally wrong when it comes to your company.
The way of the bushido? Sounds like you've been watching too many samurai movies. :lol: In the modern Japanese business world, it's all about the way of the keiretsu.

whitetiger777
04-10-2005, 07:34 PM
I find as time progesses. All these cars are getting bigger and starting to all look the same. I saw the pics of the new GT-R and the new Eclipse all in one day, and to tell you the truth, except for a few suttle difforences, they look about the same. It's like they don't want to have cars that have an individual look to them any more.
As for the Engine going to a V-6. I was under the impression the Inlines carried better torque; and therefore were better and hard ecceleration (Any can argure this point if they actualy know better)
I beleve the previous post was corect in that car companys are comeing out with cars they know will not sell well, so they put on a name every one knows (ie. the new GTO, Eclipse, ect, ect) and hope that the name sells a competly pointless car. I highly doubt we will see tomany of these in any tuner, or import mags.

whitetiger777
04-10-2005, 07:41 PM
May I also add as an Eclipse owner, they I would sooner have a 1G or 2G, and never a 3G. Granted, the 3G V6 puts out a little more hp than a stock GSX, but the 1&2Gs can be upgraded a lot easyer, and therefore are more ideal for upgrading. You will hear about someone getting older eclipse up over 400 horse, but the 3Gs never appear anywhere...except in 2Fast2Furious.
I believe this skyline will be about the same. Ment for a rich older man who is forced to buy a family car, but still wants to live the dream of having a race car.

jmrev
04-11-2005, 07:39 PM
"you cant teach an old dog new tricks"

VQuick
04-11-2005, 08:24 PM
All these cars are getting bigger and starting to all look the same. I saw the pics of the new GT-R...
The problem is, there are no pictures of the new GT-R. With the exception of the three and a half year old concept shown by Nissan, nothing you have seen is official. There's really no need to be concerned yet. If you see the second GT-R concept shown this fall at the Tokyo Motor Show and have the same feelings, then you can complain.

As for the Engine going to a V-6. I was under the impression the Inlines carried better torque; and therefore were better and hard ecceleration (Any can argure this point if they actualy know better)
It really depends on who builds the engine. Unless there was an automaker who made both an inline and vee six cylinder engine using the exact same methods, there isn't a good way to compare.

I've heard people compare Nissan's mass-produced VQ35DE with TVR's handbuilt, detuned racing 3.6L Speed Six engine. Even with the advantages of the Speed Six, the VQ35DE isn't far behind. The 350Z currently offers 300hp/260 lb-ft, while the 3.6L Speed Six used in the TVR T350C produces 350hp/290lb-ft. Don't forget the Speed Six is not built with US emission standards in mind. So like I said before, there really isn't a good way to compare.

Edit: I found a manufacturer that has an I6 and V6 of similar displacements. Happens to be Nissan. Although the level of technology is different, you'll see that vee engines are eroding the advantages of inline engines.
RB25DE:190hp
VQ25DD:215hp

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