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pivot headlight controller no more! free lazy eyes, and no getting dirty!NiSmO_zt 01-18-2005, 12:35 PM here it is: pop out the headlight pop up switch, the one on the left of the gauge pod that pops the headlights up for cleaning. just pull it out, it might stick, but thats how to remove it, it just has little tabs on it. the switch has a little semicircle picture on it with a double sided arrow pointing up and down. now, locate the brown wire on the back of it, and cut it, yep, cut it. or you can try to remove it so you can put it back on later, but who uses that switch anyway!?! now, pop the switch back into the panel, and your done! what the switch does is "fix" the position of the headlights. so, to lazy your lights, turn your lights on all teh way so they pop up, then press the new modified buttion, then turn your lights off. the lights will stay up, but turned off. now, if you press the new modified button again, the lights will begin to fall, so press it again to stop them at the desired level of lazyness. when you turn your lights on, it will override the switch, and they will function normally. if you leave the new button activated, when you turn your lights off some random night, and they stay up, dont panic, just press the mod button again, and theyll go down. simple, free, and no more manually adjusting them from under the hood. it sounds hard to get them right, but its really easy, so enjoy. peace D-Bo 01-18-2005, 12:51 PM i'm gonna go try that now. and if it works then i'm selling my pivot controller driftking777 01-18-2005, 02:30 PM yea go do it and tell us if it works right Autofreefindersguy 01-18-2005, 03:02 PM I guess I am too old...I don't get the lazy look appeal... AWDSR20 01-18-2005, 03:39 PM iT WORKS GOOD SHIT DUDE! no mooor poping the frikn hood!!! tnxs! NiSmO_zt 01-18-2005, 05:31 PM sorry, but im not getting those pics D-Bo, may be just me, sorry... D-Bo 01-18-2005, 05:34 PM k sorry guys none of these pictures are working.. give me a few minutes to figure it out TeameXcessive 01-18-2005, 05:55 PM here it is: pop out the headlight pop up switch, the one on the left of the gauge pod that pops the headlights up for cleaning. just pull it out, it might stick, but thats how to remove it, it just has little tabs on it. the switch has a little semicircle picture on it with a double sided arrow pointing up and down. now, locate the brown wire on the back of it, and cut it, yep, cut it. or you can try to remove it so you can put it back on later, but who uses that switch anyway!?! now, pop the switch back into the panel, and your done! what the switch does is "fix" the position of the headlights. so, to lazy your lights, turn your lights on all teh way so they pop up, then press the new modified buttion, then turn your lights off. the lights will stay up, but turned off. now, if you press the new modified button again, the lights will begin to fall, so press it again to stop them at the desired level of lazyness. when you turn your lights on, it will override the switch, and they will function normally. if you leave the new button activated, when you turn your lights off some random night, and they stay up, dont panic, just press the mod button again, and theyll go down. simple, free, and no more manually adjusting them from under the hood. it sounds hard to get them right, but its really easy, so enjoy. peace sorry to ask stupid question, but what do u mean by press the new modified button again. do u mean the pop up headlight button? let me know. thx. D-Bo 01-18-2005, 05:58 PM LaYzIeNoY 01-18-2005, 07:14 PM this works really well i donthave cruise controll as i have an sr swap so i removed those button, the ones beneath the light one, and made a little switch the that cuts the circuit, works the same except it adds a button for me to play wit D-Bo 01-18-2005, 07:18 PM yeah i'm gonna reconnect the brown wire to a switch.. maybe even the actual controller.. HEY THATS AN IDEA!!!!! i never thought of that!! would the controller work if i connected it to the brown wire???? edit: that would also make installation of this controller much easier.. cause the instructions that come with it are japanese and you can't do it by simply looking at pictures.. Chuki_breath 01-18-2005, 07:25 PM i thought thats how everyone does it???? but uses a switch.....this is old news. logik23 01-18-2005, 07:38 PM Looks great. D-Bo 01-18-2005, 07:43 PM not old news to me chuki.. this is the first i've ever heard about it.. i'm gonna try it when its not -4000° outside.. the proper install guide tells you to re-wire it at the controller box (behind the ecu).. i don't know if it would work by simply putting the pivot switch in the brown wire.. monooxide 01-18-2005, 09:39 PM thats a lazy biatch not evening shaking snow off Chuki_breath 01-18-2005, 09:43 PM o well good luck to ya, hope it works so you didnt get that headlight controller for no reason. LOL and nothing against you or anything but in that one picture on your cardomain site, you remind me of phez off of that 70s show. The one where your in the black shirt with your girl. It's just that one picture though, i dont know why it makes me think that, but it does lol. logik23 01-18-2005, 10:37 PM I kinda see it to, and it's Fez, lol. drumpet15 01-18-2005, 10:45 PM Car looks good, man. Sleepy eyes are tight, snow sucks, though... NiSmO_zt 01-18-2005, 11:17 PM sorry to ask stupid question, but what do u mean by press the new modified button again. do u mean the pop up headlight button? let me know. thx. yes, xcessive, when i say new modified button again, i am refering to the headlight pop up button, in fact thats the only button i mention, to clear up some things. if you play with it a bit, youll get it. D-Bo 01-18-2005, 11:40 PM hahaha you had better believe that i was him for hallowe'en last year!! it was awesome.. i have the accent and slur down to the T!! problem is that my voice is a little too deep but its still pretty damn funny.. but yeah i'm gonna see what i can do about wiring up the pivot controller to that system.. if not then i'll make another switch and sell the pivot controller to another guy here in ottawa with a 240.. he'll go for it.. EDIT: and for the snow, its hard packed and -40degrees outside so none of it would have come off easily.. i dont want to put anymore marks in the paint than there already is.. but chances are ill get it repainted next summer anyways.. we'll see what happens logik23 01-19-2005, 10:18 AM You have some weird shit on the hood, right above the headlights, they look like some kind of vents.... nissan180 01-19-2005, 10:26 AM if you dont want to cut any wires...just disconnect the plug under the headlight motor near the headlight and then manually twist the knob until you get it into the position you want...dont have to worry bout cutting wires...and if you get tired of it...just reconnect the plugs D-Bo 01-19-2005, 12:43 PM if you dont want to cut any wires...just disconnect the plug under the headlight motor near the headlight and then manually twist the knob until you get it into the position you want...dont have to worry bout cutting wires...and if you get tired of it...just reconnect the plugs wow you win noob of the year. this whole thread was about how you DON'T HAVE TO TURN THEM MANUALLY!!!! NiSmO_zt 01-19-2005, 12:52 PM rofl, this threads about not getting dirty... logik23 01-19-2005, 01:18 PM D-Bo, what are those vent things right above your headlights on your hood? D-Bo 01-19-2005, 02:09 PM they're just air vents.. i'll get pics of them tomorrow for you.. they're custom too.. whoever did them did a great job.. logik23 01-19-2005, 03:37 PM They were there when you bought the car? Can't wait to see those pics, those things look awesome. SHIFT_KA24DE 01-19-2005, 05:19 PM i've done the same except connected the wires with a switch so i can deactivate/activate the switch at any time. I've tried disconnecting the brown switch but it didn't seem to work for me. Instead i installed a $3 switch to the light green wire and it has the same effect yet this time around you don't have to turn on your lights. Just pop them up with the secondary switch and then lower 'em back down to a desired lazy position using the switch i installed. i'm not trying to explain how i did it... just telling you guys there are other methods if this one doesn't work. D-Bo 01-19-2005, 09:01 PM yeah i guess so.. i'm just gonna try to use the pivot controller since i already bought it.. if not then i'll find somebody to sell it to.. but yeah the vents were on when i bought it.. i'll have to wait till tomorrow to take pics.. Chuki_breath 01-19-2005, 09:12 PM damn so those are scoops. They look good in the snow lol. I can see them in your sig too, now that i know that their there. It just looks like some shiny distorted thing on your hood in that pic though, i guess you freshly washed it because its super shiny. I just assumed it was mirroring something in the background. But now i know what it is, so it makes sense lol. D-Bo 01-19-2005, 09:19 PM you can kinda see them here too.. they look mean when you're looking from the front.. Ii'll try to clear some snow off and take pics tomorrow when its light out http://img64.exs.cx/img64/1087/692648480as.jpg D-Bo 01-19-2005, 09:23 PM and yeah i washed it the day before.. the day i took these pics was the last day it was on the road before winter.. so it was nice and clean. and believe it or not what doesn't have snow in it is still shiny!! logik23 01-19-2005, 09:33 PM I don't wanna tell you how to do it, but I think it might be better f you drove the car everyday instead of letting sit in the snow, I mean at least you get the parts moving and stuff. D-Bo 01-19-2005, 09:44 PM i would if i could but my fuel line is frozen.. i'm just gonna put $1500 into having the engine worked on (ballpark).. either that or have it towed to the dealership and let everything thaw.. and i can't exactly drive it every day.. atleast i don't wanna take the chance.. i know everything is gonna be rough when it comes back out on the road but i'll have the cash to fix pretty much anything by then monooxide 01-19-2005, 10:14 PM D-Bo keep the spoiler man its pretty bad ass as a 727... D-Bo 01-20-2005, 12:00 PM do you do stand up? D-Bo 01-20-2005, 01:25 PM http://img113.exs.cx/img113/3726/airvent12av.jpg http://img113.exs.cx/img113/9687/airvent26qp.jpg http://img113.exs.cx/img113/7178/airvent34oo.jpg http://img113.exs.cx/img113/9532/airvent43vd.jpg http://img113.exs.cx/img113/4328/snowcovered4ge.jpg i hate looking at it with so much snow on it.. we had about 5cm 2 days ago and 10cm yesterday.. before that it was totally clear of snow.. i'm gonna try to get as much off as i can.. nissan180 01-24-2005, 10:02 AM wow you win noob of the year. this whole thread was about how you DON'T HAVE TO TURN THEM MANUALLY!!!! Actually I'm not a Noob, just found this site out of the blue, Ive been at another site for a long time, my bad, one little mistake, I am new to this site, Im a noob to the site, not the car...Newbie is the stupidest name to give someone, would have been nice to let me know and not be a *blue meanie*(lack of a better word) about it. It's no way to keep people on the site SHIFT_KA24DE 01-24-2005, 12:41 PM ...simple, free, and no more manually adjusting them from under the hood. say what Nissan180? anybody would've gotten it if they read the first post, or the thread title. D-Bo 01-24-2005, 02:04 PM well welcome to this forum.. just make sure you read the whole thread before you give your opinion.. burnout 180 01-24-2005, 10:49 PM lazy eyes are hella good. thax dude much props to your post. nissan180 01-25-2005, 08:45 PM well welcome to this forum.. just make sure you read the whole thread before you give your opinion.. yeah I will now..sorry for the trouble...I'm used to skimming pages when I'm in school...guess it carries over My bad D-Bo 01-25-2005, 10:47 PM i hear you man.. but you can miss a hell of a lot of info by not reading one post, let alone multiple posts.. billclinton 01-26-2005, 02:58 PM yeh i clipped the brown wire on my 89 last year, one of the motors was a little lazier then the other so the headlites wouldnt raise and lower at the same rate so when i would hit the button to make it stop they wouldnt be lined up. they were more retarted eyes then lazy eyes. drumpet15 01-26-2005, 05:24 PM they were more retarted eyes then lazy eyes. lol, sorry, man. That sucks. but it's kinda funny! 93-240SX-COUPE 02-05-2005, 03:17 PM I know this is like the 1st post on this thread in about almost 2 weeks but when you do get the sleepy eyes how is the visibility, or brightness or whatever you know what I mean, of the headlights when driving around at night? I live in LA so unless you have a Honda your not going to see many sleepy lights, let alone any other 240's driving around at night. Chuki_breath 02-05-2005, 03:21 PM unless you have a honda??? i dont get what you mean. But sleepy and driveability should never be used in the same sentence. I noticed my blinkers light up the road more than when my lights are sleepy. So that should let you get an idea. 93-240SX-COUPE 02-05-2005, 03:29 PM I meant "I live in LA so all you see are Honda's and not...". Well I have some PIAA fog lights that I noticed work pretty damn good compared to the headlights as is right now. I'm sure you know but when you just turn the headlight knob 1 click your foglights turn on without the headlights popping up and that works ok but not the brightest. What if you did a bulb replacement with like some 4000k or 8000k for the headlights then did the sleep eyes? You think that would work ok, as far as visibility? Or would you have to do a headlight conversion with some lights that have a bulb high placement? let me know what you think. NiSmO_zt 02-05-2005, 09:17 PM thats one bonus to this mod, when you modify your headlight button as said, when you turn your lights on, they pop up and work just like normal, cause you cant use sleepy and lights at night, unless you have projectors instead of headlights D-Bo 02-06-2005, 12:40 PM either that or have a headlight that re-angles itself at any degree the popups are at so that you have a constant field of view.. which is what i'm working on making.. very very complicated SHIFT_KA24DE 02-06-2005, 02:11 PM either that or have a headlight that re-angles itself at any degree the popups are at so that you have a constant field of view.. which is what i'm working on making.. very very complicated wow good luck with that one. sounds like a very difficult project. If you get it to work... that'll be HOT! anyway, if you don't have projectors installed ... it's not recommended to use the sleepy eye position at night. That's why this forum explains how you can put it back to it's original working condition when you want it to. D-Bo 02-06-2005, 03:01 PM even if i COULD have sleepy eyes at night, i wouldn't do it without having my lights working properly.. 93-240SX-COUPE 02-06-2005, 05:46 PM Yeah for sure I wouldnt risk driving at night with the sleepy eyes(the look appeal) of the car over my safety. Just wanted to see what my options were if I did decide to put the sleepy lights on with a conversion/mod to make the lights better at night. Cuz I dont know about you guys but the stock lights I have on my car suck so bad. I mean they're pointing straight down to the floor about 15 feet in front of the car. And since I figured I need to buy some new headlights might as well see what I need to make the sleepy work well for permanent night driving. Chuki_breath 02-06-2005, 10:39 PM well you could always buy a sleepy eye kit. Which makes your headlights usable at night. They will always be lazy, never fully up. What i have noticed with the lights at night is, with the brights on its a little bit better but by no means good visiblity. Other cars can see you easily coming but you just cant see the road. Most of your light beam path is into your bumper and it almost looks as if you have some street glow or someshit. But you can tell its not streetglow since your lights are lazy. Although i havent tried to adjust the actual light beam to the lazy eye set up. As in turn the screws (not motor knobs) to point the light beam fully up. That way when your lazy they might shine on the road a tad bit better. But i once drove on the highway with lazy eyes and couldnt see shit. I followed a guy to my off ramp and then adjusted them back up. But people say it looks cool because they can still see your headlights but it doesnt shine in there eyes. You get what im saying? so they get the full affect. Iv looked at them myself to see how they look in front of my house. And i have to say from about 3-4 houses down it does look pretty cool. Cuz the light is there but its just not visible on the road lol. You'll have to try it to see what im saying i guess, it would be easier for you to understand me if there was an example i could show you. monooxide 02-07-2005, 01:51 AM Hey D-Bo seriously everyone go to D-Bos Car Domain and tell him that his 727 was actually pretty awesome...you get my vote for the 727 to come back alive and no im not a stand up.. monooxide 02-07-2005, 01:53 AM OOOOOOOK nvm take my vote away the spoiler on second review was...unacceptable...dont vote or go look at it... D-Bo 02-07-2005, 02:22 PM wtf was that?? 240sxDspec 02-15-2005, 07:50 PM imma try it tomorrow D-Bo 02-15-2005, 08:01 PM haha thanks for lettin us know.. we already know it works.. but good luck with it 93-240SX-COUPE 02-18-2005, 03:15 PM Just bumping it up. I just got new lights since my old ones sucked ass and Im gonna try the wire cutting with the button inside cuz after listening to all you guys I would never try driving at night with Sleepy(unless I reposition the lights for maximum lighting at the sleepy position and they work good) D-Bo 02-18-2005, 04:39 PM actually i don't think its possible to adjust the height your light beams reach past 80% open.. so even if you DO have sleepy eyes and have your lights adjusted at 80%, its not even gonna look like they're much lower.. what i'd reccommend is either doing the full conversion or making a custom light which automatically adjusts to the height of your lights.. and anytime you turn your headlights on, the lights should go to 100%.. if not then there's some problem with your system.. 93-240SX-COUPE 02-18-2005, 05:05 PM Ah forget it that sounds like too much work (and money) for something that isnt gonna work just like I want it too. The switch will be fine for now. And funny thing is. I bought the lights yesterday and was going to install them and do the switch but its raining over here. Why funny? Cuz its So. Cal. and it never rains over here except for when I want to do something outside. Anyways just venting. 93-240SX-COUPE 02-22-2005, 05:52 PM Bumping thread. Damn Cali. rain-storm wont go away long enough for me to work on car. Managed to put lights on in 10 min. when rain cleared up and I was available to put them on, so now just gotta wait when not raining and I have some time. D-Bo 02-22-2005, 07:10 PM did you just get regular lights?? 93-240SX-COUPE 02-22-2005, 07:27 PM Yeah I couldn't afford a projector kit right now so I want to see how new halogen lights work out. Probably still gonna be bad as far as night driving goes with sleepy's but at least I know with new lights (cuz new lights are huge improvement over old lights) how it looks. D-Bo 02-23-2005, 12:47 AM what exact lights did you get though? how much? 93-240SX-COUPE 02-23-2005, 02:36 AM They were some "cool blue" replacement lights I picked up at Pepboys. Total was about $60. D-Bo 02-23-2005, 07:41 PM oh ok i think i know which ones you're talking about.. their wattages are 10w higher and the bulb has a bluish purple tint?!? anyways, those lights are bright and work very well but i see them on too many civics and accords (there's a ton of 2 door 94-97 accords with mufflers, lowering springs, sound systems and rims here..) so they seem rice-ish to me if you have them around here. but good choice of light.. they'll do the trick. burnout 180 02-24-2005, 09:21 AM Bump! D-Bo 02-24-2005, 05:25 PM what are you bumping it for? its a day old 93-240SX-COUPE 02-24-2005, 07:12 PM Honestly the blue tint isnt even that noticeable which is good cuz I thought that they were going to be really blue so I was kinda regretting getting those cuz they were gonna look like if I just played NFS2U and that was the look I was going for. I got them cuz they were brighter than the regular replacement bulbs and were a white instead of the the yellow light. The tint is very light to unnoticeable. Very happy with the new lights. P.S. the regular lights woulda ran me $20 for both so "you get what you pay for" seems to hold true. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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