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Autofreefindersguy
01-18-2005, 12:05 AM
Hey guys, my new 92 240 SX SE has 146k miles and it has the orig. shocks/struts...

I have owned several of these cars buy never had one that has "Wheel hop" seems to when I go around corners fairly sharply at decent rates of speed...

These also to be the worst condition of my shocks/struts I have felt.
Is that the cause? or something else?

I bought new Toyo's...205 15 60R speed rated tires...Drives great all other times...

Thanks much for any imput...

simounj
01-18-2005, 01:13 AM
Buy some subframe bushings, it will reduce and/or remove wheel hop.

Autofreefindersguy
01-18-2005, 11:07 AM
Thanks for the reply...Poly bushings?
How hard of a job is that?

R.W.240
01-18-2005, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the reply...Poly bushings?
How hard of a job is that?

They're metal spacers thas compress the existing ones or you can get all metal inserts. Subframe spacers and Tension Rods will make some of the biggest differences in handling. If those dont get it new shocks will.

Autofreefindersguy
01-18-2005, 12:35 PM
OK Thanks R.W. I will get new shocks/struts first, as I know I need them now and see what that does...Has anyone used KYB's?

simounj
01-18-2005, 05:14 PM
KYB AGX are the ones you want. Comes with 4 levels of adjustment for the front, and 8 levels in the back.

xcusememisswyn
01-19-2005, 09:48 AM
i know that AGX has all of that adjustibility and has recommended a few times i have seen, but they are at least an extra 100 dollars, and if im not looking to be a hardcore tuner, and also running on a tight budget, are they worth the extra money. Will i use the adjustibility more than once every month, or will i adjust it once and let it go, b/c if that would be the case then i could just get the GR-2s and save some money... im not planning on drifting, i just want a smooth ride and better handling, is the AGX still worth the extra money?

sorry its long

Autofreefindersguy
01-19-2005, 10:50 AM
Yep I had the AGX's on another 240 I use to have...very good handling, pretty stiff & harsh for everyday driving that isn't smooth pavement though.

Xcuse also brings up a good point... I have never felt the GR-2's? Anyone?

The price dif is how much?

D-Bo
01-19-2005, 12:46 PM
i think he said about $100.. but i'd say don't go bottom bottom of the line.. having the agx's won't make you a super tuner.. not even close.. a good suspension setup will cost you ballpark $2500.. you won't be paying more than $500 for the shocks alone

driftking777
01-19-2005, 12:51 PM
i have the AGX's myself...the ride isnt that horrible unless you drive on really shitty streets. the AGX's are pretty beeft too...dont really have to worry about them blowing on you...I've heard rumors of the GR-2's blowing...i personally say go for the AGX's myself

xcusememisswyn
01-19-2005, 12:54 PM
the AGX's i can find for about 330, the gr-2's for like 240...i just dont know how much i would use the adjustibility... and if im only settin it once i dont see why i would spend the extra 100... are the gr-2s any good, does anyone kno... im leanin towards savin the xtra 100 but i dont want to buy it just to say its adjustable

logik23
01-19-2005, 01:17 PM
I dunno how many setting the GR-2s have, but thye seem to have only one, what if you don't like it? If you change it only once, it'll be to the setting you like, the AGX have 4 different settings, so if you don't like the one they come in, you have 3 other choices, with the GR-2s, if you don't like the one they come in, it's tough and you have to live with it.

xcusememisswyn
01-19-2005, 02:42 PM
good logic...

from logik...


yah it was gay but i didnt mean to do it...
goin wit the AGXs it seems now, only one more paycheck

S13wanabe
01-19-2005, 03:17 PM
The GR-2's are made as a stock replacement. They are not a performance shock. It is the same for the blue Tokico's. They are meant to be stock replacements. The AGX's are definatly the way to go if you want to handle better. If you want to maintain a stock ride quality and have a 240sx that handles like it did when it came off the showroom floor then get the GR-2's. Keep in mind, the stock suspension does handle fairly well, so how much do you care about ride quality.

And D-Bo, I have the AGX's on my Civic with RS*R race springs and it's a damn rock. The suspension doesn't move hardly at all. AGX's can be used for more than just street, they are a great shock for racing aswell. I'm not sure how they are on 240's but I know they are rock hard on Civic's. I love them.

logik23
01-19-2005, 03:40 PM
Always good logic from me, dude. ;-)

xcusememisswyn
01-19-2005, 04:47 PM
so if i run AGX's with an Eibach Pro Kit for springs would that be good... is there anything exceptionally good or bad about the Eibachs? Im not looking to lower my car too much (some bad roads around here) an inch to an inch and a half max... but would still like the best ride and handling without over doing my budget, are there any other springs i should look at if these have any problems...?

S13wanabe
01-19-2005, 05:07 PM
I used to have the Eibach Sportlines on my Civic. I didn't like them because they were too soft. They were noticably stiffer than the stock springs but they weren't stiff enough for racing. They did have a good ride quality. For what you want they should be perfect.

logik23
01-19-2005, 05:47 PM
No other city has roads as bad as Montreal, roads here that have a 15-20 year life span are redone every 75-100 years at the rate they are going. Some government rep said they have a team out 24/7 documenting the pot holes, but that's all they do, they don't actually fix them, except when the holes get big enough to swallow up a car, then they get some kindergarten drop-out with a beat down pickup, a shovel and a bucket full of gravel to fill up the hole, 3-4 days later, all the gravel comes out and it's back to breaking tension rods and shit.

xcusememisswyn
01-19-2005, 11:12 PM
haha my road is like that too... i live on a back road and its a pothole with asphalt and dirt around it... not a road... i have to go down the road at 3 mph just to keep myself from gettin a headache... it sux bad and we cant really have it fixed bc only a few ppl live near us

Autofreefindersguy
01-20-2005, 09:49 AM
I know the feeling...Living in Indy...The winters chew up the roads and the quality of repair is subpar...

I found the AGX's on my past 240 SX too harsh for a daily driver...Now they were pure driving joy on a smooth road, but man...That is few & far between around here...

I had thought the GT-2's were a upgrade over stock?

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