List in order which cars you think would place in in a race from a stop and 20mph roll. All stock.

1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT
2003 Subaru WRX
2003 BMW 325ci
2003 Honda Civic Si

is the 3000gt a VR4 or SL?!?!?!

1st - 3000gt assuming that it is a VR4
2nd - subaru wrx
3rd - BMW 325ci
4th - civic si

if the 3000gt is a SL i would place it last...and the si and BMW would be close i think. are they both manuals, automatics, or what?!?!

Yeah, we need more info. The 3000GT will blow 'em all away if it's a VR-4, but otherwise I'd give it to the WRX. And I'll give it to the WRX in handling no matter what.

Yea but it's not about handling...it's from a 20mph roll...

Same list that Most Wanted posted up...same order provided the VR4 is indeed a VR4

is the 3000gt a VR4 or SL?!?!?!

1st - 3000gt assuming that it is a VR4
2nd - subaru wrx
3rd - BMW 325ci
4th - civic si

if the 3000gt is a SL i would place it last...and the si and BMW would be close i think. are they both manuals, automatics, or what?!?!


why would you place an SL last? the 3000gt Sl is faster than a civic si and a bmw 325ci. i say if its an sl then it should go in second place. if its a vr4 then its no competition.

why would you place an SL last? the 3000gt Sl is faster than a civic si and a bmw 325ci. i say if its an sl then it should go in second place. if its a vr4 then its no competition.

that is why i asked if they were autos or manuals...i have been told by 3000gt owners that 3000gt automatics cant break into the 15's stock. and i have talked to many 300zx n/a owners who have beat manual SL's by a hefty margin, and n/a 300zx's are only supposed to be running mid 15's also. so...who knows?

yeah sl's have beat n/a z's and z's have beat sl's

3000gt sl's run mid to low 15's, manuals.

with that bieng said, the civic si should be last

but we still don't know if its a vr4 he's talking about or not.
and from the way he's doing things, niether do we know if he's talking about the sti or not

yeah sl's have beat n/a z's and z's have beat sl's

3000gt sl's run mid to low 15's, manuals.

with that bieng said, the civic si should be last

but we still don't know if its a vr4 he's talking about or not.
and from the way he's doing things, niether do we know if he's talking about the sti or not

yeah...but i have seen stock civic si put down a 15.5 at the track also but it could have had some drag radials or good tires. :dunno:

ehh..oh well. ill wait for him to get on here to give more details.

O sorry, the about the Info.

1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT SL - FWD, 222 bhp, 3300 lbs.
2003 Subaru WRX - AWD, 227 bhp, 3000 lbs.
2003 BMW 325ci - RWD, 180 bhp, 3000 lbs.
2003 Honda Civic Si - FWD, 160 bhp, 2700 lbs.

3000GT VR4
WRX
BMW
Civic

Given that they all have manual transmissions and drivers of the same skill level, I'd put it:

1. Subaru Impreza WRX
2. Mitsubishi 3000GT SL
3. BMW 325ci
4. Honda Civic Si

The results will vary based on car modifications and driver skill, though.

3000GT SL - Manual
WRX - Manual
325ci - Automatic
Civic Si - Manual

ok...like kman said, if all were manuals

1-WRX
2-3000gt
3-BMW
4-civic SI

3000GT SL - Manual
WRX - Manual
325ci - Automatic
Civic Si - Manual


you will never see a 3kgt sl, beat a wrx stock for stock

wrx

drivers race between the 3kgt and bmw, hard to tell

and civic si

Hmm, since the BMW is automatic, the Civic Si might be able to beat it if the driver is good enough. Also, are all the cars completely stock?

A civic Si, well at least the 6th generation 99 -00, the on that I own, can take a BMW 325 automatic or manual pretty easily.

I have both cars, so i know...

in 1999, C&D ran the si at 15.7, same people ran the bmw 325 at 15.4

all the cars are pretty much stock