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95RSV
12-29-2004, 11:28 PM
Does anyone out there know if Electric Superchargers are any good?

It seems like these battery powered SC only last about one 1/4 mile run and then it needs to recharge after 6-10 minutes depending on how good your alternator is. For less than 1300US it gives you some serious gains.

integra818
01-02-2005, 01:15 AM
For the same price, you can asemble a cheap turbo system and go just as fast, if not faster. And that damn thing adds like 100 LBS to your car (extra batteries). Read thier faq again...just make sure you make the right decision.

ChumP ChanGe
01-13-2005, 12:48 AM
naw dude bad idea elctric superchargers i agree wit integra superchargers are mainly good for low end i wood go turbo unless u got v-tec then go wit a REAL suppercharger like Jackson Racing or somthing

killah_xft
01-13-2005, 01:08 AM
having vtec does not take the option of turbo away... some people complain about the vtec cams overlaping too much, but this is not entirely true.. you can turbo any honda motor.. vtec or not.. and yes.. depending on what you want you can go either way with a supercharger, or turbo.. turbo is the best choice for the track and street as you can tune boost for daily driving, and for the track.

ChumP ChanGe
01-13-2005, 01:28 AM
i know sorry missunderstanding i meant vtec wouuldkinda help low end

killah_xft
01-13-2005, 09:13 PM
vtec does'nt engage until at or above 4000rpm how does that help low end?

CocaColaEatsPie
01-13-2005, 09:50 PM
It helps low end because it can run different lobes that don't have to efficiently run the engine in the 6500rpm range that a non-vtec cam would.

tomsindahizouse
01-16-2005, 10:36 PM
Thats Right. Most people think that VTEC is just when the engine reaches above a certain RPM (different on each car) and the other cam profile comes to life, but alot of people fail to understand that the concept of VTEC is Good Low End Torque with good fuel efficiency, and good High end power with a different, more aggressivecam profile.

Schister66
01-16-2005, 11:25 PM
Or instead of dealing with high RPM VTEC, just get the car chipped and have 2500 RPM VTEC like my car!

CocaColaEatsPie
01-17-2005, 01:25 PM
Turning vtec on at 2500 rpms is not only stupid and stressful on your engine, it makes your car slower rather than faster. They vtec setting is set from the dealer to make as much power while still being efficient and reliable, what makes you think that you know the car that they built better than them? You need to turn vtec back up before you ruin your engine, and so you can have a faster car.

F23A4Racer750IL
01-17-2005, 04:36 PM
i didnt even think they made those electric superchargers for Hondas

tomsindahizouse
01-17-2005, 07:08 PM
Does it really "kick in" at 2500 RPM? or were you joking? Not to be a dick, but why dont you adjust your idle to 2500 rpm so you are always "in VTEC" and you will really be able to feel how much the more aggressive cam profile sucks at low RPM's (which I dont understand why you havent already)

tomsindahizouse
01-17-2005, 07:10 PM
Also... Last time I checked you can't Chip your car, so im assuming your talking about your ECU.

95RSV
01-17-2005, 07:45 PM
I already have an Exedy clutch that only has like maybe 5000miles on. The specs on this clutch states that it can only hold an extra 32% of torque which is too less for turbo. This clutch is built for mild N/A tuning. So if I go for turbo I'm just wasting this clutch.
I'm pretty sure if I spend $2000 on a turbo oppose to $2000 on N/A tuning I will definitely get more 1/4 mile results with the turbo.
So maybe it's worth changing the clutch.

tomsindahizouse
01-18-2005, 07:09 PM
How much did you pay for that clutch? Can you even tell that its aftermarket? I Dont know much about clutches. Any help you have is greatly appreciated.

95RSV
01-18-2005, 08:30 PM
How much did you pay for that clutch? Can you even tell that its aftermarket? I Dont know much about clutches. Any help you have is greatly appreciated.

I paid 200-220 shipped. I know Exedy is a really popular in Japan. At the time I didn't think about "FI" just an upgraded clutch. After I realized the what the specs were I don't think it's worth spending some more on turbo and a new clutch. I already spent over $6000 on everything I listed including labour, new stock parts, lights and interior etc... I think it's enough upgrades for this car and maybe it's time to move on with a G35 6MT or an S2000.

Regarding clutches.

If your looking for a clutch, make sure it can hold enough torque for what you expect your upgrades will put out.

bingisSD
01-18-2005, 08:35 PM
electric superchargers are the biggest waste of time, never corner yourself or limit the amount of potential hp+tq gains you can muster out of your small displacement motor. if you are going to cough up a thousand dollars toward your drivetrain, save up for one more paycheck and piece together a turbo setup. sticking with a D-series motor or an electric supercharger both really restrict or cap your peak hp.

i dont know how well they work, i dont think electric superchargers are much better than leaf blower turbos, a total waste of money and time. dont do it. save up and do it right, with either a belt driven supercharger or a turbo. :)

Schister66
01-20-2005, 11:53 PM
Also... Last time I checked you can't Chip your car, so im assuming your talking about your ECU.

Of course that's what i meant!

Schister66
01-20-2005, 11:59 PM
Turning vtec on at 2500 rpms is not only stupid and stressful on your engine, it makes your car slower rather than faster. They vtec setting is set from the dealer to make as much power while still being efficient and reliable, what makes you think that you know the car that they built better than them? You need to turn vtec back up before you ruin your engine, and so you can have a faster car.

I don't get why its stupid, you should ride in it and then tell me how stupid it is. A regular Civic w/ the same mods and VTEC at the regular RPM...say 5600rpm...would fall behind in a race or from a lower RPM start while my car has the VTEC power through almost the whole powerband. It is basically a performance chip like those plug-and-play diagnostic tuners. All it does is allow VTEC to kick in at any RPM over 2500 only at 3/4 or more throttle, not at normal driving speeds. i can run my car up to 5000 w/o VTEC like any normal Civic, i just have the OPTION of engaging it sooner. I still get excellent fuel economy too.

SiGNAL748
01-21-2005, 12:11 AM
Ok, i'm not trying to be a dick or anything here; but from a technical standpoint, vtec engagement at anything lower than the factory setting does not give you any gains, unless you have an aftermarket cam designed to take advantage of vtec engagement at that given rpm. Honda set vtec at the point they did for a reason, changing it without proper mods to pair it with will not give you any gains, and may even slow you down. This has been tested many times.

Again, I don't mean to flame. Just my friendly 2 cents. :2cents:

tomsindahizouse
01-22-2005, 02:00 AM
I agree, but just remember Schister is way smarter than anyone of those Honda guys that designed VTEC. I can understand maybe VTEC "kicking in" at 4000 to 6000 RPM, but 2500 RPM doesn't make any sense to me.

94tegRS
01-23-2005, 03:24 AM
they invented vtec because for low end efficiency you need a different cam profile than you do for high rpm efficiency, so switching to the VTEC lobes down at 2500 steps AWAY form what honda was trying to do.

now I do think that it might not affect your engine very much at all because only the intake valves are affected anyways and I doubt a SOHC civics vtec lobes are very agressive at all.

who makes this chip anyways?

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