Too bad yours is cleaner:D :eek: :D
OK now that I have your attention, x marks the spot where I need your help.
I plan to have 2 ducts on each side of the "mouth" feeding air to my front brakes via tubing.
Maybe a foglight/brake duct combo, I don't know. Tell me what U think.....
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/713120PrototypeP10.JPG

what i suggest is -- to have that clean look get the factory foglights then take the lens cap of of it and gut it out take out bulb and everything paint the whole thing same color as bumper and will look flush and be the air duct the whole behing the housing i think is sufficient if not just widen it

what do you think?

I think we need some more pics before we can tell you exactly how ugly that air dam is. :finger:

Seriously, you're not REALLY going to put that on your car, are you? It just looks way too plain and straight. You need at least some sort of lip on the bottom. And since the stock G20 has a big-ass grill in the center, i'd plan on cutting away a pretty good sized portion so that your radiator gets enough air.

BTW, what is that made of? Is it sheetmetal or fiberglass or what? And how are you doing to mold in the ducts that you're planning to make?

Look what I just photoshopped for ya.

How 'bout somethin' like this?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/981444spoilered_g20.jpg

Dropped the stock spoiler 'bout 3 inches. Removed the bars and added your brake ducts in the same style openings as the fogs. Will need the sides done to match the lowered front, though.

Cheers.

Originally posted by killick
... How 'bout somethin' like this?...


Hmmm.... ya know, you could probably stuff a pretty decent sized intercooler in there.

Cheers.

Originally posted by Cue-Ball
I think we need some more pics before we can tell you exactly how ugly that air dam is. :finger:

Seriously, you're not REALLY going to put that on your car, are you? It just looks way too plain and straight. You need at least some sort of lip on the bottom. And since the stock G20 has a big-ass grill in the center, i'd plan on cutting away a pretty good sized portion so that your radiator gets enough air.

BTW, what is that made of? Is it sheetmetal or fiberglass or what? And how are you doing to mold in the ducts that you're planning to make?

Seriously thanks for the warning, I was just about to roll around town with a straight dry-foam bumper until you said something. Go to the eye doctor and have him check DA VI SION:finger:
I still have days of sanding before I capture the shape I want. Besides any bumper looks good with a 1500$ FORGE intercooler stuffed inside:D
After I get the shape around the whole car, fiberglass will be hand-layed over all the foam, then more sanding.......

Killick thanks for the pic, it looks tight. I am trying to keep the front from curving in like the OEM bumper. But the fog/brake duct combo looks hella tight!
Cas8_1999 I think I will try the fog light idea, but i'm not about to buy some just to rip them apart. I'll just have to build the basic shape myself.

I am building the front kit to the ground, because right before its finished I will slice the bottom off about 3 inches up. This will be made into a lip-kit that drops the front to the ground for shows.
Side-skirts and rear will soon follow.......

Originally posted by killick
Look what I just photoshopped for ya.

How 'bout somethin' like this?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/981444spoilered_g20.jpg

Dropped the stock spoiler 'bout 3 inches. Removed the bars and added your brake ducts in the same style openings as the fogs. Will need the sides done to match the lowered front, though.

Cheers.

hey killick thats tight can you drop that front bumper even more almost touching the ground then leave that one bar in the middle unstead of the fully open front bumper i like what you did too

and also let me know if you have fun with photoshop alot so i can send show you my pics of my car and maybe you can have fun with it i always want to see how different things would look but dont have a comp of my own anymore my motherboard friend and this comp i'm using is my friends

pics of my car (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t33354.html)

Originally posted by p_r_i_m_e_r_a


Seriously thanks for the warning, I was just about to roll around town with a straight dry-foam bumper until you said something. Go to the eye doctor and have him check DA VI SION:finger:
I still have days of sanding before I capture the shape I want. Besides any bumper looks good with a 1500$ FORGE intercooler stuffed inside:D
After I get the shape around the whole car, fiberglass will be hand-layed over all the foam, then more sanding.......

Killick thanks for the pic, it looks tight. I am trying to keep the front from curving in like the OEM bumper. But the fog/brake duct combo looks hella tight!
Cas8_1999 I think I will try the fog light idea, but i'm not about to buy some just to rip them apart. I'll just have to build the basic shape myself.

I am building the front kit to the ground, because right before its finished I will slice the bottom off about 3 inches up. This will be made into a lip-kit that drops the front to the ground for shows.
Side-skirts and rear will soon follow.......

good luck with the bumper it sounds good so far and i like the lip kit idea i'm into that slammed look too...
casual--good luck with your vision

Played with the pic a bit. Some subtle stuff ... lowered the car about an inch or so... modified the sideskirt... made the tires a bit wider.

Hope y'all like!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/374692completed.jpg

Cheers.

BTW, if anyone's curious, the original image was pulled from nissannews.com

good job! it looks nice, now time to do it in real life right?

hmmm.... that ...er... costs a bit more :)

Originally posted by killick
hmmm.... that ...er... costs a bit more :)

Hook me up with a P11 bumper and i'll make you one.......

email me you address at
casual@vxion.com
god as my witness i would mail my bumper to you with the quickness

that photoshop bumper is tight!:D its one of them subtle things that you like but cant explain!! i just had to post it one more time. :hehehe:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/374692completed.jpg
I'll buy THAT for a dollar!

Originally posted by killick
Played with the pic a bit. Some subtle stuff ... lowered the car about an inch or so... modified the sideskirt... made the tires a bit wider.

Hope y'all like!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/374692completed.jpg

Cheers. Man now I have to clean my computer keys and screen....lol. that is freken ILL!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

Originally posted by TIZAO
Man now I have to clean my computer keys and screen....lol. that is freken ILL!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:
LOL !!HAHAHA YOU DIRTY BAR STEWARD!!:D

Originally posted by P11GT

LOL !!HAHAHA YOU DIRTY BAR STEWARD!!:D Tha FUK? haha....damn England Speak.....haha just kidin....I think I know what you are sayin!>?:confused: :confused: :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash: :confused: :confused:

solly! me chinese.... me no speak England!! haha:D

Bar steward - a person who owns and runs a pub (public house/bar) what were you thinking?? :rolleyes: obviously what i meant:D

Originally posted by P11GT
solly! me chinese.... me no speak England!! haha:D

Bar steward - a person who owns and runs a pub (public house/bar) what were you thinking?? :rolleyes: obviously what i meant:D Yea thats what I thougt you meant......and why you gotta diss on asians??? You know we are the reason why most of this shit is still runnin! haha lol!!!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

I AM CHINESE fool!!! haha:D you can see for yourself if my bloody site was working today.

Originally posted by P11GT
I AM CHINESE fool!!! haha:D you can see for yourself if my bloody site was working today. Thats right..I forget.....my bad....ok lets stop........lol dont want others to get involved!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

K, nuff said, your forgiven:D

Dude, your photoshoping skills are slick@! That shit is tight, now if you can just dup it in real life...keep us posted...

does anyone know any special bolts i may overlook while taking off front bumper or any thing else i should do to get it off with no hassle
thank you

casual

um...... on the UK spec, pop the hood, youll see 3 black plastic fittings top middle, prise up the centre bit while holding down the side with a screwdriver or something. theres two 10mm bolts either side of the bumper, high up behind the arch lining, right where the tip of the bumper is. this holds it to the front wing. underneath the car, theres 2 more 10mm bolts on 2 arms which hold the bottom to the cross member. and theres a few more of those clips for the underguard. Then pull one side outwards at a time but support the bumper from falling off. dont forget to disconnect the lights.

Than you! That should be all i need to know. If anyone with us spec knows any differences just post. If not then i'm going fo it!
Thank you!
casual

Originally posted by Yahnozha
Dude, your photoshoping skills are slick@! That shit is tight, now if you can just dup it in real life...keep us posted...

I gotta agree you may be cheap but you are the man in Photoshop .. can you do something for me ?

Can you make a mesh grill picture like RED G20 In San Fransico for my car ? I am decided whether I should try it. I say a Primera Site in Germany where I guy did it and through the Infiniti Symbol back on it ..

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/821832Picture033.jpg

You mean this car?

http://members.aol.com/boogercrst/Primera/1p11
http://members.aol.com/boogercrst/Primera/3p11

can give it a shot... no guarantees though.

The front bumper on the silver G wasnt that hard cause I could work with existing elements in the photo.

Here we're talking about mixing parts from different pics... photos shot from different angles, different lighting, etc. Much harder to get it to work out right. But I can give it a go.

You want the mesh grill to be the shape of the one in the red G, or the size and outline of your existing grill. How much you want it recessed?

... or can I just surprise you? :)

Cheers,
Tony

So, you want a mesh grill the same size and shape as your existing one ...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/568827silvergmesh(1).jpg


... or a little larger with the Infinity emblem to one side ...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/101489silvergmesh(2).jpg


... or the larger style with the emblem centered?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/690939silvergmesh(3).jpg

Hope this does the trick for ya.

Cheers.

... or just recess the grill further, with no emblem.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/269754silvergmesh(4).jpg

... that oughta be enough to give you some ideas re: how it could look.

Cheers.

God Damn!!! you got to much time man! ive had PSP for ages and still dont know how to work it. Its so confusing its scary!! 'Jobs-a-goodun!!'

i am very impressed. :D hm maybe ill try to create that P11 bumper for the P10 when i get mine.

I need to get me some of that software! Thats phat all the stuff you can do!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/918660G20cleared.jpg

Clear sidemarkers, shave handles, remove some dumb cars from background, remove stickers from window...

Not trying to show you up or anything, killick, but just playin'....;)

Originally posted by P11GT
... ive had PSP for ages and still dont know how to work it. Its so confusing its scary!! ...

Used Corel PhotoPaint (because it came with Corel Draw). This was actually the first time I used it. ... though I been playin' with these kinds of programs (PhotoPaint, PhotoShop, PhotoStyler, PaintShop, etc) for about 10 years.

Done some 3D modelling too (kinda like a CAD program where you build the object in 3 dimensions, set the textures and lighting, then render it). Did the wooden runabout on the Rhino3D (http://www.rhino3d.com/hobby.htm) web site. Bigger pic here on their gallery page (http://rhino3d.com/gallery/marine/stephydro.htm). Great for coming up with wild stuff like the Neeper concept vehicles that cas8_1999 posted in the bumper thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t33631-2.html). Pretty steep learning curve though (but probably not if you've got a CAD background).


... now, how the hell did I get this far off topic? :rolleyes:

Cheers,
Tony

DAMN you are good .. I am buying a grill tonight !!!!!

Originally posted by killick
So, you want a mesh grill the same size and shape as your existing one ...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/568827silvergmesh(1).jpg


... or a little larger with the Infinity emblem to one side ...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/101489silvergmesh(2).jpg


... or the larger style with the emblem centered?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/690939silvergmesh(3).jpg

Hope this does the trick for ya.

Cheers.

Can you hook me up with red calipers too ? I appreciate it !!

From that angle, and with that lighting, red calipers wouldn't show up. Sorry. :)

... maybe I should start charging for this sh*t. :) Nah! Wouldn't pay enuf. Besides, then it would be "work". :)

Cheers

HEY P_R_I_M_E_R_A check your damn mail!!! I need to get your phone number I cant find it! I have your money!!!!!:bloated: :alien: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

Originally posted by poppy_morenito


Can you hook me up with red calipers too ? I appreciate it !!

I would like it with the grill showing no silver at the top at all if one of you PS master can koot it up with the symbol in the middle thanks ..

You will have to wait until monday. I'm visiting at my dad's house and :gasp: he doesnt' even have Photoshop!

Well I have photshop and I can't even firure out how to do anything that does not look like a 5 years did it ....lol .

This MCSE isn't worth a damn ..lol

Originally posted by poppy_morenito


I would like it with the grill showing no silver at the top at all if one of you PS master can koot it up with the symbol in the middle thanks ..

Like this?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/381333silvermesh.jpg

Don't worry, I have been Photoshopping for the last 6 years at least, and I have one claim-to-fame that none of y'all have:

My copy is legal.

That's PERFECT .. no I have to figure out how to do it in real life.....
THanks Everbody ....

Shouldn't be too hard.

Cut off the top and center bars. Buy some mesh, fiberglass and a littte bondo. Paint it, slap on the emblem, Clip it in.

It is time to cut the mouth, I dont know if it should be quite this big.
I'm at the cross-roads, this will either look good or just plain nutz.
Dare I mess with the powers of the rice-side and cut a huge mouth with intake ducts on each side equal to those of the F15:D
Whatchawhatchathink??
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/911276FRONT2.JPG

:eek2: OMG !!!! how big is that???? dont answer;) are you gonna make several different cut outs in the bumper or you just want a single mouth?? Any plans on blending in some lights/lamps etc. Oh and you can always buy some pre-fabricated vents/ducts to put in, that would l0ook cool:flash:

i think some ducts and etc... like fog light cutout would be cool and one humungous mouth would be a little too radical and wouldn't flow with the smoothness of the rest of the car but application is the key and you could cut that big cutout and make it look off the hook and start a newer trend..

lets see what maybe killick could do to this with photoshop and i'll work on something too

if you do cut the mouth that big fill up all that space with a huge FMIC keep the pics coming on progress and keep up the god work, take your time dont rush the ideas either

casual

p_r_i_m_e_r_a,

Going back to one of your earlier posts, I think you mentioned that the bottom 3 inches would be removable...

One of your biggest challenges is going to be designing it so that it looks decent both with and without the extension on it. Unless you're careful it'll either look like somethin's missing when it's off, or like an afterthought when it's on.

Take your time and play with lots of ideas before you commit to something. Better to have your car out of commision for a few extra days and be proud of the end result than to rush it and end up driving ...eh... something you might not so happy with.

Cheers.

p_r_i_m_e_r_a,

Going back to one of your earlier posts, I think you mentioned that the bottom 3 inches would be removable...

One of your biggest challenges is going to be designing it so that it looks decent both with and without the extension on it. Unless you're careful it'll either look like somethin's missing when it's off, or like an afterthought when it's on.

Take your time and play with lots of ideas before you commit to something. Better to have your car out of commision for a few extra days and be proud of the end result than to rush it and end up driving ...eh... something you might not so happy with.

Cheers.

p_r_i_m_e_r_a

okay... I had a go at some quick 'n dirty photoshop stuff.

I saw a pic of a lexus in an add in a magazine... the front was kinda aggressive and since that's kinda what you've been asking for feedback on, I thought I'd graft it onto your G.

No comments about the quality please... this is a very obvious PS job.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/476091primeras_mod(noextension).jpg

Notice that the bottom of the spoiler is 'bout 3 inches above the ground. As a suggestion, you might try something like the image below for your front spoiler extension. It's gonna be difficult to design it so it doesn't look like a piece added on, even if the contours match perfectly... so...

...my suggestion is to work with that. Actually make it different from the rest of the spoiler.. carbon fiber maybe? See image below for one idea. (the img is still crude, but you'll get the idea).

Cheers.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/173094primeras_mod(withextension).jpg

Originally posted by p_r_i_m_e_r_a
It is time to cut the mouth, I dont know if it should be quite this big.
I'm at the cross-roads, this will either look good or just plain nutz.
Dare I mess with the powers of the rice-side and cut a huge mouth with intake ducts on each side equal to those of the F15:D
Whatchawhatchathink??
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/911276FRONT2.JPG

What the hell is that??? I think you better style the hell out of that thing or its just gonna look odd. You could do some really cool stuff making your own bumper though. Good luck.

it was way back at the beginning of the thread.....

Hmmm.... ya know, you could probably stuff a pretty decent sized intercooler in there.

DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM P11GT ?????

just seen the pictures on your site, good luck with it all, i'll listen out for the tisch if you ever pass me on the A1 !! ...... going the other way of course ha ha ha ha !!!

Originally posted by killick
p_r_i_m_e_r_a

okay... I had a go at some quick 'n dirty photoshop stuff.

I saw a pic of a lexus in an add in a magazine... the front was kinda aggressive and since that's kinda what you've been asking for feedback on, I thought I'd graft it onto your G.

No comments about the quality please... this is a very obvious PS job.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/476091primeras_mod(noextension).jpg

Notice that the bottom of the spoiler is 'bout 3 inches above the ground. As a suggestion, you might try something like the image below for your front spoiler extension. It's gonna be difficult to design it so it doesn't look like a piece added on, even if the contours match perfectly... so...

...my suggestion is to work with that. Actually make it different from the rest of the spoiler.. carbon fiber maybe? See image below for one idea. (the img is still crude, but you'll get the idea).

Cheers.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/173094primeras_mod(withextension).jpg That seccond one is tight! DO THAT P_R_I_M_E_R_A!!!!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

I'd go w/ the Second one too :D

Hey Primera, are you plannin to do the skirts and back bumper as well?

I am pretty sure he told me he was, but time time time......give it some time! That front took months and months!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

and if you want to play the lowering game i can go into down and get a getto lowering kit (the girls here run very large) im sure if i can cram 5 of them in it i can scrape da ground . and it will only cost me 10 burgers at mcdonalds ......i know i have peed in someones cornflakes on this post ...let the burn begin !!!

Thanks for the pics! I'm just going to have to carve the shit out of it.........

Originally posted by p_r_i_m_e_r_a
Thanks for the pics! I'm just going to have to carve the shit out of it......... Ha ha lol still a lot of work to go!!!!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

too bad i havent seen my bumper since and never heard from primera again with ninjacar
casual
:devil: damian where u at?

Originally posted by cas8_1999
too bad i havent seen my bumper since and never heard from primera again with ninjacar
casual
:devil: damian where u at? I dont know what happend with him.......I could never contact him......all I know is that he lives either in WA or OR.......oh and just to clarify.....he has no dealings with ninjacar.........:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

he has no dealings with ninjacar
thats not what he said to me and plus he would have me call him at ninjacar
well when someone finds this guy u let me know

casual

Originally posted by killick
You mean this car?

http://members.aol.com/boogercrst/Primera/1p11
http://members.aol.com/boogercrst/Primera/3p11

can give it a shot... no guarantees though.

The front bumper on the silver G wasnt that hard cause I could work with existing elements in the photo.

Here we're talking about mixing parts from different pics... photos shot from different angles, different lighting, etc. Much harder to get it to work out right. But I can give it a go.

You want the mesh grill to be the shape of the one in the red G, or the size and outline of your existing grill. How much you want it recessed?

... or can I just surprise you? :)

Cheers,
Tony

WOW! WFT is that car?

P11 G20, I believe it's owned by someone named Dakine who lives in Washington state.

Wow! Until I saw that car I preferd the 2 newer models, but now i want that one! What body fit is it? It loks nuthing like an uk P11 i have seen.

Don't know which kit it is, but there's a how-to on the grill here. (http://209.151.81.10/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=346&highlight=dakine)
You may want to also check www.g20toronto.com for info on mods available for G20s. I can't get Dakine's email, he/she was a member on www.g20.net but disappeared after taking a $50 order to make someone else a grill like that, cashing the check, and never following through...

cheers, looks like the impal kit.

the grill u found the how to on g20style and the body style is not the impul its the stock infiniti fg20 body on the g20 in the united states. i t looks kind of lower cuz the car is lowered the owner of that car was selling some eyebrows or grills to people online and he dssapeared with some peoples money ..
the name of the guy i think someone replied already
god luck
casual

Anyone familiar with Photoshop? I curious what an E36 and E46 BMW Modified M Front end would look like on the P10 G. Since the P10 stock is already boxey enough in the rear, and with the OEM Touring spoiler, the M front end a little modified may be cool to consider. The front end offers cooling ducts for the brakes already. I have a purple E36 BMW M3 Saloon and I love the looks of the front end with the added OEM front Spoiler. Adding the E36 M front end to a P10 would open up more space in the front for some interesting custom grille options.
ALSO, Does anyone know of a roof spoiler for the P10. I want one, but nothing real aggressive.

for the photoshopping innclude the pics you want done
casual