I know I'm outta forums here but my 90 civic seats are vinyl and if you just think about it, it sucks. Well, since the famous seat pan swap is the only way to go without welding or screwing holes, there is a pair or 95 civic ex coupe seats waiting with my name on them. But I need a pic of something. Can someone please take a pic of your car seat reclined all the way back where the pivot point that holds the top and bottom part together is showing? I need to know where the pivot point is. Any 4-door seats are welcome too. And if you have a pic of just the top part of the seat off the bottom, that would be great.