hi ya'll, i was wondering if u can change it to a momo steering wheel and hub for super HICAS 240sx? i heard it from somewhere that u can't put it. not sure since i'm a newbie to 240sx. let me know what ya'll know. peace....

i guess nobody know! ha funny shit.

i know, i had a hicas car, and its a pain in the ass, there is a steering wheel angle sensor behind the wheel that gets in the way. i have a momo jet, and was going to put it on, but you have to remove the sensor, and cut the like 15 odd wires off of it, and then your hicas will not work. but if your hicas is already not working, which mine was, no big deal, just get the hicas eliminator and forget about it.
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cj

i know, i had a hicas car, and its a pain in the ass, there is a steering wheel angle sensor behind the wheel that gets in the way. i have a momo jet, and was going to put it on, but you have to remove the sensor, and cut the like 15 odd wires off of it, and then your hicas will not work. but if your hicas is already not working, which mine was, no big deal, just get the hicas eliminator and forget about it.
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cj

so r u saying that if i cut the wire, the hicas will not work anymore and i will also need a hicas eliminator even though if the hicas does not work? plz let me know n thx for ur help. peace...

So you can't change the steering wheel if you have hicas?

yeah i don't understand that.. i'm guessing the wiring from the dash has something to do with it.. as far as i know hicas isn't something you should worry about so much. saying you have a hicas model says NOTHING but the fact that it has hicas.. every part of the car should be easily interchangeable with aftermarket parts except for the diff. all mainstream suspension, rims and stiffening products will fit a hicas model or non hicas model. hicas isn't even a model. its normally se or le. the only thing that has to do with hicas in the interior is the light beside the rear windshield button that says if its working or not.. and it wouldn't make sense to have the wiring for that light to be in the steering wheel cause they're not even relatively close to eachother..

no no no, you see, for the hicas to work it has to have a steering position sensor. in order for the car to know which way your turning, and how fast your doing it, the hicas car has a notched ring around the steering column with a photoelectric or magnetic pickup that detects that motion. its a big ring and plastic box that get in the way of the adapter hub for most aftermarket steering wheels. so it pretty much has to go. you can put an aftermarket wheel on, but you must remove the sensor, voiding any hicas action that could have worked.

so its possible, but sucky

sorry for the confusion

So you can't have HICAS and an aftermarket steering wheel?

on a second note, d-bo, in your sig, its says next on your list is a pivot headlight controller. do you just really want to pay for that luxury, cause its free, and built into the factory wiring

correct logik, unless you can make accomodations for the angle sensor... like spacing the wheel hub out from the column covers a bit, but im not sure how that would work

if hicas is wired into the steering wheel then why doesn't it work at low speeds??
and what do you mean built into the factory wiring?? how would you control it then? i know you can lower them manually but other than that i've never heard of any other way..
i already bought the controller, i just have to get it installed

d-bo, the hicas is made not to work at low speeds, its electronically controlled. you have to go between like 25 and 50 for it to activate.

and the pivot headlight controller, if you have the headlight pop up switch, the left most top button, that just pops the headlights up for cleaning, just pull it out(it just has tabs) and cut the brown wire on the back of it. then put your headlights up by turning your lights on, then press the new button to hold them in place, and turn your lights off. what the new button does is just fix the position of the lights. now, press the new button again, and the lights will begin to fall, so press it again when their laze and it will hold their position. it sounds hard, but its really easy, and free, and build into the wiring. so try it if you like.

cj

has this mod not been posted on the forum yet? i just figured it was a common thing...

if not, then i can post it as a new topic


cj

post it in a new thread if you like.. its never been suggested before.. as far as i know.. other guys have said they disconnect the actual headlight lifter and turn then knob manually but this seems kinda cool so i'll give it a try and see what happens..

ill post it tonite, unless you want to sooner, cause im heading out for a while, but yeah, its clean and works great, and easy to get the hang of. not to mention it only takes 30 seconds to do...

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cj

For the Steering wheel, can't you just hook that sensor up to the aftermarket steering wheel?

d-bo, the hicas is made not to work at low speeds, its electronically controlled. you have to go between like 25 and 50 for it to activate.

and the pivot headlight controller, if you have the headlight pop up switch, the left most top button, that just pops the headlights up for cleaning, just pull it out(it just has tabs) and cut the brown wire on the back of it. then put your headlights up by turning your lights on, then press the new button to hold them in place, and turn your lights off. what the new button does is just fix the position of the lights. now, press the new button again, and the lights will begin to fall, so press it again when their laze and it will hold their position. it sounds hard, but its really easy, and free, and build into the wiring. so try it if you like.

cj

so can i still put on the aftermarket steering wheel with HICAS adapter?

Which cars came with the HICAS? The only nissian i know that had ne kind of HICAS system was the skyline. I'm working up the money to buy a 240sx early 90 hatchback. I want a project drift car so i would like to know which one does so i don't get it.

91-93 hatches had it as an option and R32 through R34 GT-Rs had it standard. Some Z32 also had it.

logik, im not sure if the sensor plate is attached to the wheel, or the steering spindle, i think it is attached to the spindle, so you wouldnt need to attach it to the wheel anyway. the problem comes in when the racing wheel hub pushes up against the sensor, unless you cut the hub, or machine the hub to clear the sensor, it will be a nuissance.

not sure if anyone has successfully done that

xcessive,
im not sure i know of this "HICAS adapter" you're talking about. the bottom line is, if the racing hub you have wont clear the hicas angle sensor, and you dont machine it to work, then in order to have an aftermarket steering wheel, you will have to remove the sensor, and delete any hicas functions. you will just have to take the factory wheel off and try it to know what im talking about.


ive installed like 6 aftermarket steering wheels, and the hicas one was the only one to give me trouble. and i know of no aftermarket wheel hubs made with special clearances for hicas or other sensors. its just a matter of preference

cj

Ok so if when i'm looking at a 240 for me is there ne marks,badges, indicators of a hicas system besides the the sensor. I doubt the person letting me look at the car is going to let me take off there steering wheel.

on the side of the car, just in front of the rear wheels on the black trim stripe, it will say "super hicas." and if the car has been re-painted and doesnt have trim, look under the hood by the passenger side firewall, i believe all hicas cars had abs brakes, so there will be a box with a bunch of little brake lines running to it. all no hicas models had standard brakes, i believe. other than that, you can lay down behind the car and look at the diff, the hicas cars had a finned diff cover, and a hydraulic cylinder mounted to the back of the diff, so thats another way to tell, and of course, theres a dummy light next to the steering column, on the right, that says hicas

good luck in the 240 search, but probably 90% of the cars dont have hicas.. so not a big problem

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cj

Thank you so much. I'm loving this site more and more everyday. Learning so much can't wait to start school and then start the 240. **also know as project Beast from the east** now the debat SR20 vs. RB26

you left out the best one, rb25, thats whats going in my 180 this summer, if i can get a good job right out of college.

I want the Rb26 the most i like the tt. Is the Rb25det swap as easy affetive as the Sr20 havnt really ever looked into it. Kinda been blinded by "godzilla"

On a scale of one to ten, SR is like a 1, RB25 is like a 3 and RB26 is like a 10.