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henry matyjewicz
12-09-2004, 07:33 PM
My 95 GSR tranny is going to shit and I've always wanted an LSD tranny. So I'm wondering wether it would be worth fixing my current tranny and converting it to LSD, or should I just buy a new LSD tranny.
(Sorry if the answer to my question is on older posts. The search produced too many results to read.)

whitGSR07
12-09-2004, 10:09 PM
type r

whtteg
12-09-2004, 11:35 PM
It would depend on your mechanic abilities. If you can handle taking the tranny apart and replacing some synchros etc then go for that, get a cusco LSD. Otherwise it woul dbe better to just get a ITR tranny. ;)

henry matyjewicz
12-14-2004, 04:40 PM
Yeah, i think you guys are right. I'll just go with a new itr tranny. Is there a diffence between the 95 tranny and 98?

Bilson8tor
12-14-2004, 08:22 PM
well since there was no 95 type r, i assume ur asking if the 98 itr tranny will work, and yes any b series tranny will bolt up just fine

whtteg
12-14-2004, 11:16 PM
They started making the Intgera Type R in 1997. FYI

Bilson8tor
12-14-2004, 11:25 PM
and there were none produced in 99

henry matyjewicz
12-16-2004, 02:36 PM
alright, i got the years wrong, what I'm trying to get at is that there are two types of itr trannies, right? a newer one and an older one both with lsd but with different ratios. since I know hardly anything about gear ratios which would benefit my gsr?

Bilson8tor
12-16-2004, 03:31 PM
im pretty sure there isnt a newew and older itr tranny, i think its just the jdm one and the usdm one, the jdm have the lower ratio. jdm being better for performance, but either will benfit you

whtteg
12-16-2004, 03:33 PM
I think that all the ITR trannies have the same gear ratios. The ITR tranny would only help your car if you are going to do cams and increase the rev limit. Otherwise the ITR tranny won't keep you in your peak power when you shift.

Bilson8tor
12-16-2004, 03:38 PM
I think that all the ITR trannies have the same gear ratios. The ITR tranny would only help your car if you are going to do cams and increase the rev limit. Otherwise the ITR tranny won't keep you in your peak power when you shift.

why wouldnt it keep you in the peak power? wouldnt the tighter gearing just mean you would get through the gear that much faster?

whtteg
12-16-2004, 03:48 PM
why wouldnt it keep you in the peak power? wouldnt the tighter gearing just mean you would get through the gear that much faster?

You will be narrowing the power band down with the shorter gears, unless you move the power band up in the rpm range, thus he would need cams and increased rev limit. When he shifts it will land him higher in the rpm range and he will not be able to take full advantage of the B18C1's power band.

henry matyjewicz
12-16-2004, 07:12 PM
You will be narrowing the power band down with the shorter gears, unless you move the power band up in the rpm range, thus he would need cams and increased rev limit. When he shifts it will land him higher in the rpm range and he will not be able to take full advantage of the B18C1's power band.
itr cam gears and shafts? wow, i never knew.

whtteg
12-16-2004, 09:56 PM
itr cam gears and shafts? wow, i never knew.

Are you asking if ITR cams are a good idea? If so then yes but only if he is going to up the compression ratio, otherwise he won't see the full power increase from them. The motor will be slightly over cammed if he does not up the compression ratio. But they will still make an improvement ;)

henry matyjewicz
12-21-2004, 08:04 PM
Are you asking if ITR cams are a good idea? If so then yes but only if he is going to up the compression ratio, otherwise he won't see the full power increase from them. The motor will be slightly over cammed if he does not up the compression ratio. But they will still make an improvement ;)
looks like I have a lot more research to do than i thought. i just wanted to make a powerful/ durable setup without turbo or supercharger. thanks so far.

whtteg
12-22-2004, 01:07 PM
looks like I have a lot more research to do than i thought. i just wanted to make a powerful/ durable setup without turbo or supercharger. thanks so far.

I just want to try and keep people from putting in some cams and then get disapointed because they did not see the gains they thougt they would. When this happens some people give up on N/A. Basically with a good N/A setup one parts is going to require another to function to its highest ability. But don't get me wrong with the ITR cams you will notice an improvement, I am not saying that it would eb worthless. ;)

CivicSpoon
12-22-2004, 01:22 PM
Ummm... yeah they did make an JDM ITR is later '95. The CTR is the one they didn't start to make until late '97. But didn't start making the ITR for the US until '97. And the gearing between the '95-'97's was slightly different than the late '97-'00 tranny. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/1987/GearRatios.htm

henry matyjewicz
12-23-2004, 08:19 PM
I just want to try and keep people from putting in some cams and then get disapointed because they did not see the gains they thougt they would. When this happens some people give up on N/A. Basically with a good N/A setup one parts is going to require another to function to its highest ability. But don't get me wrong with the ITR cams you will notice an improvement, I am not saying that it would eb worthless. ;)
well since you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about setups and applications how should i go about having a decent n/a gsr? there are so many brands and parts. all i want is a well balanced setup that will last me with just normal maintenance. I started this thread because my tranny is going to shit so i decide on getting decent one. then you bring up the relation between cams and tranny. i don't have a huge budget but i'm willing to spend on quality parts.

whtteg
12-24-2004, 01:16 PM
If you plan on getting some cams that will move your power band up in the rpm range then go ahead and get the ITR tranny. Swapping in the ITR tranny is not going to be a bad thing, I just wanted you to realize that the ITR tranny is not going to make a huge difference, and that you can't really take full advantage of it's capabilities because the stock B18C1's power range is not in the same rpm range as the ITR. Just remember that one part usually needs another part to perform to its potential, but they will usually give an increase by themselves.

henry matyjewicz
12-27-2004, 03:02 PM
do i need to change the cam gears, springs and retainers too?

henry matyjewicz
12-27-2004, 03:06 PM
Ummm... yeah they did make an JDM ITR is later '95. The CTR is the one they didn't start to make until late '97. But didn't start making the ITR for the US until '97. And the gearing between the '95-'97's was slightly different than the late '97-'00 tranny. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/1987/GearRatios.htm
i noticed the final gear is slightly different, does this make it better? sorry, my transmission expertise is limited to gran tourismo.

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