I have been here a while (although I may not post allot) and all of the other skyline forums out there that apply to this i.e. Nissanforums.com. I am sick and tired of people trying to find a "new way" to get a skyline in a America with NO proof and No research.

This is what I am planning on doing:
1.First I need everyone’s help and support on this.
2.I am going to get a hold of a lawyer friend of mine about MotoRex and RB motoring and anyone else getting it in. Also he will be able to help me out with all the government legal crap. He used to work for the government.
3. I need every single idea that was brought up on how to get a skyline over here for cheap I.E. kit car- just call it a body kit, plate swapping- EVERYTHING. I am going to do a MASSIVE investigation on what is right and wrong when it comes to importing these things.
4. I plan on calling all the news stations about this because there is enough people who care to watch this and learn the truth.
5. Lastly when all the investigating is done I plan on making a web site with ALL this information that has been PROVEN.

How does this sound "alright" to everyone? Will anyone be willing to help? Am I forgetting something I should do here? Are there any resources that anyone has that will help out in this investigation i.e. People- documents, ect.

Sounds great to me... Im just waiting for the 25 year rule to kick in personally...

I dont think the news stations would give a shit about it... You've got to think about the average person that watches the news doesnt care about cars, or Skylines for that.

I dont think they would cover it...

But the best of luck to you...

I dont see what the big deal is though... You either have the money, or you dont, there is no way to get around it without getting heated. And is it really that big of a deal for a generally average car?

I dont think so... Just wait man... 2014 and we can import Godzillas legally. So just be patient.

-Wes

you will be wasting your time and money, unless you plan on trying to profit from doing all that work. Just let the dreamers dream and when they fail then there will be one more skyline here in the US for race/show useage at a low cost to us.

Im just waiting for the 25 year rule to kick in personally...
25!!!!:eek7:

Aha, so we aren't THAT unfortunate. I can get a 1999 R34 in, oh, 9 years and 1.7 months :D....

I agree with Zed, that'd definetly shud'em'up. But it isn't that big a deal, unless you are willing to look into EVERYTHING and then make a giant thread titled "NEWBIES, LOOK HERE BEFORE YOU ENTER:confused:" and have it set up so that they HAVE to look at it in order to continue. Like, uh, those licensing agreements.:iceslolan

:2cents:

We could only wish someone would find a better way :grinyes:

25!!!!:eek7:

Aha, so we aren't THAT unfortunate. I can get a 1999 R34 in, oh, 9 years and 1.7 months :D....



... Now granted... Im not the most mathematically inclined person in the world... But how did you get THAT figure?

I think your figuring for 15 dude... And unless your in Canada... Your off by about 10 years :D

-Wes

I AM in Canada, lol.

Effin EH!

... Now granted... Im not the most mathematically inclined person in the world... But how did you get THAT figure?

I think your figuring for 15 dude... And unless your in Canada... Your off by about 10 years :D

-Wes

dont wanna correct a mod, but canada has the 15 year rule so a 1999 r34 is lets say 6 years old now (almost 2005) plus 9 years till legal= 15

..And unless your in Canada... Your off by about 10 years :D

He was talking about the U.S. :iceslolan I knew what ZedEx meant. :smokin:
Because Canda has the 15 year rule and America has 25 year. :2cents:

Thanks skyline69, that is precisely what I meant.

And as for you... Correcting a moderator is a felony offense... Please bend over so I can frisk you :lol:

-Wes

Well has anyone cosidered trying to challenge the 25 year rule? Lower it to a more reasonable level purhaps?

For example the law on drugs comming in from canada because they are cheaper?

Also lets look at this what does the law say about cars that come from canada rather? Or is it all import cars that the 25 year rule applies to?

Its seems that no one even trys to change laws. Would that not be an easier prosses? I am sure the guys running around in fiberglass bodied vettes have no problem in acidents so why not let the skyline hear? emitions and seat belts give me a break. in alot of states they don't even have emisions MN doesn't. This is the kind of crap I am talking about. Nissan is gouing to bring a skyline over here that doesn't even look like one? What the hell? I am all for the v8 myself technology is were it matters. But here in america we even complain about our old muscle cars not looking the same for example the mustange- now they FINALLY did something about it. This kind of crap has driven me mad way too long. I would much rather go throught the crap to change the law. There more than likely is something I have to go around and have poeple sign and what not that's how I did this last time Although I am sure that there is some bigger amount of peole when it comes to this.

I hope you all would be willing to sign...anyother comments? yes I am serious about this by the way.

... Its all technical rules man. If your driving in an or older car ('72 or below I think) you dont have to meet the same standards as the newer cars... Because they are NEWER.

Is it really worth making a stink about dude? You really want to take years out of your life just to lobby the EPA and DOT to try and get the 'paper free' importation law lowered, maybe a year or two?

Its not going to happen buddy... Its not that big of a deal... The Skyline isnt a magic car that can fly, feed your children, and sing the Nation Anthem... Its an inline six twin turbo. If you want something of the same caliper... Its not that hard to build.

It just seems silly to me to make such a HUGE deal, about something very miniscule.

Now dont get me wrong, I love Skylines as much as the next Nissan/Infiniti enthusiast... But seriously, the reason every wants one, is because they are so rare. That factor will soon fade away, and they'll be just another car on the road.

Skylines in Japan are as ample as Mustangs in America... They're not all that great unless you put mucho dinero in it.

... Anyways, sure, I'll sign whatever you put up, and Im sure everyone else on this entire forum would... But its not going to do a damn bit of good... Sorry to tell you.

Public out cry over something like this is typically just kind of tuned out.

Just wait man... Be patient.

-Wes

I'd sign, but I don't think it'd matter much. I'm in Canada :)

this is dumb... so you expect to bypass all the federal laws and dot regulations so you can get a cheaper skyline?
what about those who invested money in getting it legalizied by motorex?
i'm still waiting on 6 monthes right now for my r32 at motorex, some has waited up to more than a year to get thiers.
If another person that brings in a car thats not legal, thats one more officer checking to see if my car is legal or not.
I bet all skyline owners that has gone through motorex, would hire lawyers of thier own to protect the amount of money they have invested in thier cars.

Well, if he finds a way that's legal, let him do it. If not, we'll stick to MotoRex. Did you even read his post?He was saying he was going to CHECK on all these things, not act on them. MotoRex does them, He is investigating other ways. He won't act on something, untill it has been found 100% legal. Untill then, nobody is going to act upon anything illegal. Calm down.

what is that 25 year rule enyways

Its a law in the U.S. that says any vehicle 25 years or older is exempt from import restrictions not having to comply to EPA and DOT laws.

You took the words out of my mouth N36. And he is correct.

Just wait... Be patient, and you'll get your dream car one day. 2014 guys... 9 years away. BNR32

-Wes

BNR32. Pfff. In 9 years, I'm talking BNR34!

Just wanted to inform you of this.

Have a nice (And jeleous:)) day...

The Skyline I want is a 99 R34. But the car I want currently is not a Skyline and the year model I want it in is a 92. Which will be legal in Canada in 3 years and USA in 13 years before the Skyline I want which will be legal in 20 years. So I want the other car first. I can get it 7 years sooner than the Skyline. The R34 is a long way off for the U.S.

Haha. I feel sorry for you. Syline in 9.1 years:) AND it's an R34. AND I'll only be 23...So HA!

I,ll be 26 when I could get it in Canada and 36 when I can get it in the U.S.

yea, ill be 2309780897294375823 when i can get the year 3459 reissue of the r34, but does it matter? who cars how old you little grommets will be. the fact of the matter is, in 9 years will you still want the car? at your age you forget things quite easily, so i wouldnt be surprised that in a few months youll be wanting a 180sx or something else.

Actually, I've wanted a skyline for a few years now. You're right, some people get quite sidetracked by almost anything (My best friend?) and some people don't. It isn't like we all act as robots. We have different things we like.

I hope I, and probably won't, forget about Skylines, or how I wanted one really badly.

PS, I really hate the 180:)

PS, I really hate the 180:)



[jdm pose]WHAAT?!?!? YOU HATE THE 180?!?!?[/jdm pose]

they are sexy machines! especially the sileightys :D mmmm......sileighty.

yea, ill be 2309780897294375823 when i can get the year 3459 reissue of the r34, but does it matter? who cars how old you little grommets will be. the fact of the matter is, in 9 years will you still want the car? at your age you forget things quite easily, so i wouldnt be surprised that in a few months youll be wanting a 180sx or something else.

Just because you meet some dumb ass 17 year old who supposebly has 8,000 dollars and sees a skyline on ebay sees being 18 soon as a plus will make getting one easier and think he can get one doesnt mean we,re all that way. Some of the guys you encounter like this are in their twenties too and just dont know shit about import regulations. Some of these people may have been influenced by the fast and the furious like you say. I have seen the fast and the furious. I havent seen 2fast2furious yet and dont care to. The car I want that will be legal in 2017 I wanted long before a Skyline. I wanted to wait until 2017 and I am going to wait until 2017. Its just the fact that a car is usually a piece of shit after 25 years and having to do restoration work makes me want it sooner.

[jdm pose]WHAAT?!?!? YOU HATE THE 180?!?!?[/jdm pose]

they are sexy machines! especially the sileightys :D mmmm......sileighty.

Mmm....Sileighty. Me likes, me likes!

I just don't like 180 in the raw. Thas all.

Ps, my Fav be a 240 w/ S14 front end conversion...Mmmm....

Mmm....Sileighty. Me likes, me likes!

I just don't like 180 in the raw. Thas all.

Ps, my Fav be a 240 w/ S14 front end conversion...Mmmm....

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/gfx/sil80/05.jpg

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/gfx/sil80/04.jpg

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/gfx/sil80/03.jpg


nothing beats a 180 with s13 front...a TRUE sil80. mmmmm :D. i do like the kouki s14 headlights though, very aggressive. and as much as i love the s15 fronts, they just dont look good on 180's. the only 180 that i love the look of stock (except the wheels...) is the 180sx type-x. VERY hot. came with that sexy ass nismo wing. mmm....

http://www.uniqueautosports.com/Images1a/180sx/typex180front.jpg

take a white 180 typex and put bronze volk gram lights on there....DAMN SEXY. i have one in my GT3 garage right now :D.

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/gfx/sil80/05.jpg


That looks a lot like my son's Sileighty.
http://www.quickstyle.org/IM000106.JPG
Edit: Oops way big!
http://www.quickstyle.org/jordansileighty.jpg

Those are sweet guys, but let's get back on the topic of Skylines, alright?

Yeah no kidding where the hell did this thread go?

Hey, you made it, you should moniter it a little more closely, hmm?

Hey, you made it, you should moniter it a little more closely, hmm?

yeah well I guess so. I am working with a few other people now I am going to contact my congressman on this. and they will there's in the states they are in. This is really how the project beggins I guess. So all of you that care enough contact your congressmen and tell him/her that the 25 year rule by the nhsta needs to be changed down. Because this is a free country and why is canada being more "FREE" than us if they can do it in 15. That is where we start then we push it harder then maybe get it down to about 10 years that is my goal as of now. there is no way other than to change this especific law. NO WAY!!

(that is other than through motorex and RBmotoring, which is stabing our check books- don't get me wrong they are great and it is expesive to do what they do but...)

And I thought I thought I was upset about our 15 year rule. Then again, in 6 years, I can get a 95 33 gTr. I am not to upset, I guess.

It was originally a thread about newbs. And the investigation into their suggestions to see if they will work. Then it went to the 25 year law, then Nissan 180s. I think it should stay about the 25 year law.

Or maybe about the original topic? that might work? But isn't there some info about the 25 year rule hangin around somewhere?

Forget that topic. You'll never get through to the newbies about their stupid ideas. Besides that topic faded out on the first page. The thread is far from that. To have something done about the 25 year law you have to contact your representative in Congress of your state. About there being info on the 25 year law. If you know where it is tell us, even though we already know the basics. Its Title 49, U.S. Code, Section 30112(b)(9). I think we should try to get it down to 15 years. If we can get alot of people in on this we can get something done about it. Everyone here contact your state representative of congress. You can contact them by email. There are sites that tell you who your reprentative is and where or how to contact them. You can do a search on google or yahoo to find your state representative.

Hell, if you want it down to 15 years, I want Canada's down to 10 or 5! Sounds fair:0

theres a rhumour spreading around that the 15 year rule will soon diminish because of the new automotive standards and restriction laws

ie. crash tests which is a big reason why most of non-eligible cars cant be imported like the evo

It better not diminish. Unless it diminishes in a good way, like letting people import em now:)

Those are sweet guys, but let's get back on the topic of Skylines, alright?
Who brought it off track??
Mmm....Sileighty. Me likes, me likes!

I just don't like 180 in the raw. Thas all.

Ps, my Fav be a 240 w/ S14 front end conversion...Mmmm....

so i wouldnt be surprised that in a few months youll be wanting a 180sx or something else

Him. My post was still about skylines. I put a PS and said I didn't like 180s. The main part of my post was still about skylines.

Mmm....Sileighty. Me likes, me likes!

I just don't like 180 in the raw. Thas all.

Ps, my Fav be a 240 w/ S14 front end conversion...Mmmm....
There was absolutely NOTHING in that post relative to Skylines.

Don't spout shit. Just participate and we will be fine. Let mods be mods.

It better not diminish. Unless it diminishes in a good way, like letting people import em now:)

He does mean in a good way. Then you can import any car regardless. That means you can get that 99 R34 you want. Provided they do away with that law.

How many people have contacted thier state congress about the law change. If you have, post here saying you have. We need as many people as possible in on this.

*Gasp* Yay! That's good news. Thanx for setting that straight.

TheGladHatter, I'm not "spouting shit" You asked who started it. I gave you an answer, the right one too. I didn't say I didn't go along with it. I didn't start it, but I ended it. I am not being a mod, I am trying to get credit points with razor so maybe he can put my name forward (Shh, that's between the skyline section guys:)) so I CAN be a mod for Skyline. I am on alot more than lots of the other people.

I am not being a mod, I am trying to get credit points with razor so maybe he can put my name forward (Shh, that's between the skyline section guys:)) so I CAN be a mod for Skyline. :rolleyes:
I am on alot more than lots of the other people.It's been noticed

As you can see this is a thread that has nothing to do with its title.

teehee. Lol. Is that good or bad? Actually, I have a reason. I have had this strange illness for the past 2 weeks. That's why I'm on so much. But usually i am on frequently anyway:)

And what's up with that rolly eyes. I'd clean up my act. I swear i would! :p

Nitrous I am just going to let these guys do what ever you can continue and email me back(dupontlm@gdnmail.net) on the research you find. As i send in my mail to you I have had finals and have had little time to look into this. I am going to talk with that friend of mine tonight this way we can get this going faster.

Just to let all of you know that are not staying on topic you will be able to get a skyline way easier if you would just participate instead of goofing off. I myself and it seems that nitrous - are both serious about this subject. I would hope you would be too- seeing that most of you guys stick around the skyline section at AF.

We are serious. we just aren't stone faced drones. We are still serious, but we can also have fun to. It's like anything else in life. You have things to do, but it doesn't mean you can't deter from your path and do something fun. We still find your idea interesting, noble, and possibly succesdul, but we are having fun as well.

PS, I don't JUST stick in the skyline section. I go to S&D, Car modeling, Off topic, Skyline, Racing, Ford, etc...

your from canada so I don't even see how this applies to you...unless youhave some ideas that we are missing.

It applied to me when we mentioned the destroying of the 15 year rule in Canada. that's when it applied to me.

The web site is:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/standards/chapt301.html

this is for those that are looking at the real codes and can't find them.

title 49 u.s. code section 30112(b) (9)

i dont get it..whats the point of this thread again? Legalizing the Sky here? dude, we got MoteRex to do it. And any ways, keeping the Skyline GTR a secret on the roads and not spreading it everywhere is cool rite now...in my opinion. but hey..good luck..!

We are trying to have the 25 year law reduced 10 years. To have something done you have to contact your state congress about it. Are you in the U.S.? What state? If you are can you help?

personally i dont think your state congress' could give a damn about this law and reducing it, like seriously the last thing they want is a bunch of imported skylines and sileightys taking over the market

personally i dont think your state congress' could give a damn about this law and reducing it, like seriously the last thing they want is a bunch of imported skylines and sileightys taking over the market

What you are saying may be true. And thanks for the positive input.

its the truth though man. congress could give a shit less about car laws at this point, especially with all the crap we have going on already.

hi folks. I am an american living in japan. I am about to purchase my first Skyline. A 1991 R32 GTS-T for 150,000 yen. Yep, 1500 bucks. I am in the military and many f my friends own skylines. In fact LOTS of my friends of skylines, 180's, sylvias, sileightys, and onevias (the reverse or a sileighty). I can assure you, many, many, MANY of americans returning from japan has tried ot import a skyline. Damn near impossible. Why bother? Most have come to the conclusion that its not worth the hassle. What you can do is import the motor and drivetrain and throw it in a 240 and basically come out with the same car. Does this work for 4wd GTR? No. But here in japan, who wants a 4wd to go drifting? The GT-R here is basically a pimping car. Something to say "look at me". The real nitty gritty comes from hopped up SR20DET, RB20DET, RB25DET, redtops, 1JZ, 2JZ, and C33's. RB26DETT are an awesome motor, and anyone willing to spend the money to wire one in to a 2wd tranny has one hell of a drifter. But for all practical purposes, the engines listed above have literally thousands of aftermarket parts available for pennies on the dollar. Compared to the GT-R motor anyway. I am not knocking the GT-R. It is probably the most awesome sprts car ever produced. But being reasonable, there are lots of other cars out there that can produce the same results with a little tuning and a hand ful of money. I realize that I am about to get flamed really bad by anyone who has actually paid the RIDICULOUS price from MotoRex, but, you can almost buy a BRAND NEW (sic) GT-R here for that price. Then again, Japan is stengy with its technology. There are some things that they simply WONT sell to the states. Its a matter of honor. I think the GT-R is one of them. What I am trying to say is MotoRex is way overpriced for what you are getting. You could spend the money building your own car and come out way ahead. Thanks for reading.

Hey sunsetsandturbos welcome to Automotive Forums. How much exactly would it cost to import a R32 drivetrain and motor? You have a good idea but its not as easy as it sound with U.S. import regulations.

Just spin it when you talk to your congressman, say you can get cars that get better gas mileage by importing (it's true)

wow i am gone for like 2 years and this thread is still up . wtf?

So blight.. found out anything yet? |:)

moo-