Eclipse=best subs in the world

did anyone see sunday's pimp my ride which featured a chevy blazer. Mad Mike which is in charge of electronics stated that the titanium subs that were installed in the blazer were the best on the market and the strongest. is it just me or is this guy an idiot, even your boy X 2 the Z xzibit corrected mad mike. i believe they were part of the eclipse titanium subwoofer line. just thought it was funny a car audio expert thinks eclipse makes the best subs. and yes i know i should have posted this in a different forum, but i thought the car audio enthusiats could appreciate it the most of anyone.

"Mad Mike" is the biggest damn retard in the industry, I swear to god

I saw one episode that had a crappy little bazooka amp and what looked like a 10" bazooka tube and he was going around claiming it was 6000 watts. I just want to slap him most of the time....that being said the eclipse titaniums are some very nice subs. I wouldn't go so far as to call them "the best", but they are very nice. Then again they're very expensive too.

so rockford fosgate and eclipse are the same thing? becuase he said they were rockfords and thats wut they looked like :/

"Mad Mike" is the biggest damn retard in the industry, I swear to god

I saw one episode that had a crappy little bazooka amp and what looked like a 10" bazooka tube and he was going around claiming it was 6000 watts. I just want to slap him most of the time....that being said the eclipse titaniums are some very nice subs. I wouldn't go so far as to call them "the best", but they are very nice. Then again they're very expensive too.
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"Man We Hooked you Up!"

"Man We Hooked you Up!"

"Man We Hooked you Up!"

I know 5year olds that could do better installs than "mad mike"

another person i hate on that show is the fat guy.

oh and that Ish guy... they act like he is a great interior guy...i can order a better interior from JCwhitney.

im almost positive the subs were rockford fosgate power t2s or t3s.. either way it doesnt matter neither would qualify as the best on the market.. i agree 100% that almost every guy on that show is rediculous and they are nothing more than a "ghetto shop" with a high budget.. meaning in case you havent noticed every show throws 20 screens, big cheap woofers, 20" rims, tinted windows, and flashy paint at a car.. never paying attention to any of the more important aspects, especially the motor. i could go on and on and im sure most of you could as well but any car enthusiast would agree that the show is terrible.

haha and i love how they put rivers and fireplaces inside of cars.. thats almost cool

Mad Mike is good at installations..... he does some pretty stuff, but he has no product knowledge and falls under the trend of a huge overrated max power figure. Ish is gooooood I love what he does to the interiors. Lol WWC needs to hire the forums knowledgeable guys to train mad mike.... I bet he doesn't even know what the hell adire audio is.... wut a shame.

you have to remember though that the products they use are sponsored, they don't have to pay much if anything for them, so they'll use whatever is given to them. Lower models, upper models, audiobahn, lanzar....it all costs the same for them and they have to give each sponsor air time, so that's what they do. I'm pretty sure if someone went to them for an audio setup that wasn't affiliated with pimp my ride they would actually use some decent equipment.

My real complaint with him is he talks everything up so much that he's basically just telling blatant lies about the equipment.

yea thats screwy, lyin about the product on television so their sponsors get more sold, but that's the way it works i guess

sometimes they have some decent interiors, etc, but they definitely don't pay attention to engine work, as they are strictly a customization shop from what i know of. I wouldn't take my car to em though, way too expensive. I know of some local shops around here that do better work

ive seen pics of some cars they have done not related to pimp my ride and sad to say they arnt much better, xzibits h2 has like 4 audiobahns in a massive box and they claim that they are the best subs. period. they are pretty much just into flashy expenesve over the top things, i would never take my car to them, i cant belive someone took an enzo their to get rims.

i heard that the people that have the car has to pay for it some howis that true? if not who the hell pays for that shit?

most of it is sponsored, aka free

the stuff that's not is probably payed for by the show, as are the workers

those are sommee sponsors because they put $10-$20000 into those peices of shit :/

yes i guess they are rf's, sorry for the false info, i just can't hear mad mike because he yells so much when he is telling the owner about the 53 tv's he installed in the floor. lol. what a joke. oh well still the best show on mtv in my book! def better than that gay a** show on speed called tuner transformations.

ya its better than tuner transformations but i dont think its the best show on mtv mabe the best CAR show but not the best show

those are sommee sponsors because they put $10-$20000 into those peices of shit :/

MRSP prices, it would only cost the manufacturer $1000 or less for that "$20000" worth of equipment....that's a tiny price to pay for the advertising they get by being on that show.

yeah i guess your right date my mom and laguna beach are better shows. lol i don't mind some of the fine ladies though!!

lol date my mom? ahahaha thats funny but na i like battle for ozzfest and mabe 1 other show lol

so u mean my 15" TiPro ain't the best? :crying:

I'd rather have a xmx or parthenon

i think the uglyerest carthey ever did was the xB... the car is ugly ot beginwith then they put a spoiler, fat airdam and rear bumper, then did a very ugly wrap on the car...

i really dont think they would use better equiptment. that show is most likely sponsored and has dealer contracts with Bazooka, Audiobahn, RF, Pioneer, and a few others...

and everytime they use giavani (sp?) rims and usually yokahama tires.

now correct me if i am wrong, but on the one a while back with the mustang...they said they had to have a set of wheels "custom made" to fit the mustang....now a bolt circle is a bolt circle... i am sure there is a rim that has the same diameter 5 lug bolt pattern.... no compay "makes" wheels for a vehicle... if the rim will fit with the tires and the lugs will fit then that rim can be used... so why in gods name would you need a rim custom made... seems like somebody failed mechanics in high school.

or how about when they cut 2" out of the toneu cover when they only needed 1" cut out...

mabe the rims had a special offset or something

the rims they wanted didn't come in the proper bolt pattern/offset so they had to have some custom made....not all that complicated

did anyone see sunday's pimp my ride which featured a chevy blazer. Mad Mike which is in charge of electronics stated that the titanium subs that were installed in the blazer were the best on the market and the strongest. is it just me or is this guy an idiot, even your boy X 2 the Z xzibit corrected mad mike. i believe they were part of the eclipse titanium subwoofer line. just thought it was funny a car audio expert thinks eclipse makes the best subs. and yes i know i should have posted this in a different forum, but i thought the car audio enthusiats could appreciate it the most of anyone.

Man, those companies pay those sellouts to say shit like that. He honestly probably doesn't think that, but the $10,000 in his pocket tells him otherwise.

Yea you guys need to realize when he is on the show he is an actor, when he is working the shop he is a car audio guy.

have someone do a complete engine rebuild on YOUR car and throw a turbo set-up on it and you'd swear you had the fastest car...take it to a show and people would look at your POS car and that "semi nice" engine rebuild and turbo set-up and say that they know someone that can do a better job, it ain't all that fast, or why didn't he do anything to the rest of the car...i for one wouldn't care b/c i had something nice under the hood...

same is with the people on the show...they don't care how good the work is, all the BS they say on the show, or who does what...the only thing they care about is that they have something A LOT better than what they had before...most people don't look at it that way...me peosonally...if i had a car that went on that show...i'd be like Jay Z and be BIG PIMPIN' even in my 17" Geavana (sp) rims :lol:

But you guys, MAD MIKE INSTALLED A CD PLAYER WITH 300 COLORS!!! NOW THATS A LOT OF COLORS, hahaahah, sounds like something he'd say doesnt it. But im j/k anyways. The best car show with out a doubt in my mind is overhaulin. Those guys are all the best at what they do. But mad mike does some nice work...maybe not the best product, and not the best ideas, but its some nice detail. (I would like to see more fiberglassing)

I'd like to see mad mike for once on that shw use a PORTED BOX!!!!!!!!!!!! All he ever does is little sealed boxes.....and they probably don't do any calculations for them like figure out the right sizes needed for the desired qtc ect..... Oh and don't you love the little amatuer porn clips we get every once in a while...... the shitty subs ainly move like 5mm one way LMAO one that comes to mind is the visoniks they did in that honda.....for the computer guy.....flipped the amps up n showed the guts...rebuilt the engine....maybe u seen it.

Seen that one. What lil amatuer porn clips are you talking about? How about those 6 'Xtreme!" 10 in. subs they put in that suburban.

How about those 6 'Xtreme!" 10 in. subs they put in that suburban.

that chick was hot, and she later posed nude :grinyes: :grinyes: :grinyes:

Ya she was pretty cute. she posed nude? is it just me or does her driving that big pos suburban make her hotter?

Alright SR20, which RE sub would u recommend for the best Low End. I mean really low, i want a tuned box at around 25-27hz

yep, she did a whole pimp my ride theme and everything in the series

Anyway, any of them should go retarded low. The XXX is very similar to the Brahma, and sealed my Brahma goes down to the teens without losing any output. Just get the biggest one you can fit, in the highest model that you can afford (afford to power properly too) ;)

Where can I find those nuddie pics????? Also bacj to your question Do you want Low bass that is even or do you want bottom heavy bass? If you want it even, with the ability to go lowlow get the xxx or wait to get the new 48mm beast. If you want bottom heavy go w/ se's, sexxxs(used), or sx's in a 28 hz box w/ mucho port area.

hehe, they posted them in the OT section of clubsi.com (possibly the greatest OT forum ever created), but with the speed that that forum moves you're going to have to search through like 100 pages of back threads

Isnt mounting an amp upside down bad for the amp because the heat travels the opposite way that it should to cool the amp?

No mounting an amp upside down isnt going to hurt anything. It had adiquite flow. its just kind of stupid the way he did it.
However. Mad mike never does use a ported enclosure. i think they used 4th order bandpass one time. Mad Mike goes along with the common car audio misconseption that small and sealed will hit harder because you can put more power to it.
Now, SR20 you need to go back through the SI forums and find us toes pics. that chick was hot. the Chick with the mustang was kinda cute also, and she surfs so that makes her hot as well. plus she does drive a mustang, lol.
but about hte mustang, they made it out like no rims where ever made to fit old mustangs. just because their bought brown nosed company doesnt make rims for a mustang doesnt mean they can act like none where ever made. but i geuss if yo ucan call T1's the best subs around then you can say anything on TV.

I found the pics....its not the chick from pmr its some chick from a while ago who did a photoshoot w/ xzibit

I found the pics....its not the chick from pmr its some chick from a while ago who did a photoshoot w/ xzibit

you sure?

ah well, I guess I'm a liar....she's still hot though :)

HA I was expecting a few demands for those pictures. But ya, i'm powering it on a nine.1 cuz thats all i can really afford right now. That should be plenty right.

yea she is still hot but u can tell she's been fucked waaaay too many times......oh well I'd sitll hit it

yea she is still hot but u can tell she's been fucked waaaay too many times......oh well I'd sitll hit it
Aight someone link to it already...

How much difference can have say 2 or 3 15's (say some SE's) make than just 1. To the ears?

you double surface area you double displacement and you get twice the sound energy.
ie
1 15 w/ 1000w plays say 133dB.
2 15's w/ 1000w will play 136 (all other things being equal with out cabin gain)
3 15's w/ 1000w will play 137.5dB

that being stated
2 15's w/ 2000w will play 139dB
3 15's w/ 3000w will play 142dB

because double power will also double sound energy. ~10dB is twice as loud to the human ear. so 3 15's with the same watage as 1 15 will show a 4.5dB gain or about 1/2 louder and 3 15's w/ 3 times the wattage as 1 15 will show a 9dB gain. or nearly twice as loud.

Say u got a SE 15 in 4 cubes tuned to 30 w/ 40 sqin of port area playin with 750watts. Put 2 se 15's in 8 cubes tuned to 30 w/ 80 sqin of port area and 1500 watts it will be approximately twice as loud to ur ears. 3 in 12 cubes tuned to 30 w/ 120 sqin port area w/ 2250 watts it wil be around 3 times as loud to ur ears.

Say u got a SE 15 in 4 cubes tuned to 30 w/ 40 sqin of port area playin with 750watts. Put 2 se 15's in 8 cubes tuned to 30 w/ 80 sqin of port area and 1500 watts it will be approximately twice as loud to ur ears.

it will be 3dB louder, not twice as loud. Twice as loud to humans is anywhere between 6-10dB

I know u know what ur talkin about but look dude......double the cone area thats 3db double the power that's 3db and the doubling in size and port area will yield around 3 db thats 9 db damn near twice as loud to the human ear.

You aren't doubling the size and port area though, you're keeping it the exact same per sub which is what matters.

As for the doubling of power, I'm really not sure what to think. Some say that adding a 2nd sub automatically yields 3dB, and doubling the power adds another 3dB (so 2 subs with 600rms each will be 6dB louder than 1 sub with 600rms), but some say that doubling the displacement to gain that first 3dB includes a doubling of power, because if you just double the subs and split the power between them, you aren't actually doubling the displacement, you're just splitting the same total displacement between 2 subs instead of 1 (say 5L of displacement total, in one case you have 1 sub displacing all 5L, and in the other case you have 2 subs, each displacing 2.5L, in the end it's still 5L). So doubling the subs and the power (so 2 subs with 600rms each vs 1 sub with 600rms) only gains you 3dB. I've heard arguments on both sides and I don't know which one to think. I guess I just need to do some testing to figure it out for myself.

In my original post i said to double the box and port size...... double cone are=3 db w/ same power...that's why setups w/ a lotta subs don't need a lot power to get rediculously loud. Test but from my experiences doubling all that i said is twice as loud to my ears.

In my original post i said to double the box and port size...

yes, but going from 4cf with 1 sub to 8cf with 2 subs isn't doubling anything, sure it takes up twice as much space, but as far as the performance of each sub goes, it's the exact same. By what you said, if you had 2 boxes, each one was 4cf and tuned to 30 with 40sqin of port area and they were sitting next to each other, and then you knocked out that wall and joined them so they became 1 box, you would gain 3dB, but that's not the case. Doubling the volume of the box is necessary for running 2 subs, it's not something that increases output, it's just something you HAVE to do to run 2 subs in the first place, just like cutting a hole for the 2nd sub or adding more wires.

I think you would need 3,000 watts there (1500+1500) to be 3 times as loud.

You could put another sub in the same size but the response would be all fucked up but what i was sayin is basically doubling your substage will double the output. another sub double the power and double the original box space. The reason I know its twice as loud is because a lot of people I do installs for will start with one sub then upgrade to 2 and I do all this and it's about double the loudness.