WAIT A MINUTE!!! Joe Blow is Spicewood. Spicewood replied to my email with the email's header being Joe Blow, and his email is: smartypants0@eudoramail.com.
Go away, Joe Blow, or Spicewood, or little troll.

Anyway, back on topic...

I didn't have time to read the posts, but here is my $.02 anyway..

315hp would be great, considering the TT 300ZX has 300. And the new one should be lighter, as the 300ZX was kinda overweight (probably its biggest problem)

And magazines get faster times because they do not power/speed shift, they merely "shift gears as fast as possible without causing damage" So there would be room for improvement in any result. But it is still a good guidestick.

I am just really glad that the Z was developed before the G35, so the platform is still devoted mainly to sport, not touring.

I am mad because at the Toronto Auto Show, 2 years in a row the Z wasn't going to arrive until the day AFTER I was there:(

HOly, I only compare stock to stock so a 1000 hp Skyline is another issue. I agree with you on the Viper issue, the viper is a bucket of bolts that happens to have a V10 truck motor in it that makes it fast that is all, I conscioulsy make an effort to not even turn my head when they drive by, I DON'T want to look like a 12 year old. But Ferarris and Porsches are completely different bread and a true joy and very impressive to drive, I respect those much much more. I don't beleive that guys that drive a 360 are all about "look at me", if you have driven one you know know what I mean, it is sad that someone can truely be an auto enthusiest and happen to have a lot of $$$ and want a ferarri and some people think (even car guys) that it is all about image (please don't classify a ferarri owner and a Viper owner in the same catagory). btw, that is how Porshes are becoming more and more, the chrome wheels, the Targa top, the cabrios, it isn't the same passion anymore. I remember in the early 90s and before, the COUPE was the thing to have, the beautiful C pillar is what makes a 911 a 911. And another reason why something like over 80% of Vette owners drive automatics, it is all about "look" and no longer the true driving experience-SAD.

Touring, to say you "don't care" about Ferarris and other cars you can't afford? what ever happened to dreaming, and the motivation to succeed financially so you can afford the material things you want? That reminds me of some people that don't understand my passion for cars, they say "it's just a car, it just gets you from point a to point b"- or "who cars how much HP or how fast a car is, you can't go over the speed limit anyways":rolleyes: :rolleyes: -WHATEVER

btw, the next gen NSX is still way up in the air as far as spec. the first rumor was a sub $100K supercar with a small V8 and about 400 hp, then people were saying about $50K to compete with the Vette and NO aluminum panels and slightly more stripped down (obviously) to make it more affordable, then the latest I heard is that they still haven't ruled out the continueing development of the ultra exotic 6 cylinder.

will I ever own a 360? probably not, but you never know, but it really isn't any fun to talk to "car enthusiests" and mention that you drove a Kia last night.

Besides, it is FLAT OUT FUN!!!!! you know, kind of like Disneyland, or magic mountain, you may never own those parks, but you still use them for entertainment.:eek: :eek:

Chris, I agree with you, wieght should be a huge concern. Too bad it isn't going to be lighter. If a Vette and Viper wiegh around 3200-3300 lbs, and the 911 about 3100 (iirc) and the NSX 3200, s2000 2700 lbs, there is no reason the new Z should be over 3000, I was hoping for about 2900 (that would be sweet, oh well) on the other end, BMW has offered some very heavy cars lately with somewhat small displacements (for the power they put out) and tehy still seem to be super fast (M5 over 4000 lbs a 4.4 L and 400 hp, and the M3 about 3500 lbs (iirc) and a 3.6 L with 333 hp-those guys are AMAZING!!

I am glad BMW has realized this though. The new Z5 concept will see production, and the emphasis will be on light weight, an excellent change, IMO.

Zcarfan, the M3 has a 3.2 L inline 6 not a 3.6 L.

Iran, My bad, I was talking about the M3 but brought up the displacement of the new 911

I hope you're right about the 315, but I'd be happy with 280. I just managed to get myself on the pre-order list -- one of eight this dealer had here in Indy.

Any news on timing?

315hp is most definitley incorrect. It will be 290hp. Trust me. I'm on the inside.

Great! 290 will do just fine...

I had a '97 Cobra with 305 HP at 3391 lbs -- or 11.1 lbs/1 horsepower. The 350Z at 3150 lbs with 290 HP actually comes out a bit better at 10.8 lbs/1 horsepower.

Are you sure that is is 315hp? I was interested in buying one and the guy I talked to said that it was only 295HP. But hey I am very happy with the 315hp don't get me wrong. Now lets see if they throw some Turbo in this beast. Does anyone know the rear wheel hp? Thanks:devil:

HP confirmed at 287 from Nissan (I received a pretty cool marketing thing in the mail) 274 ft. lbs of torque. 287 normally aspirated horses in a 3200 lb car is going to be fine.

From the August Car and Driver.

0-60 in 5.4 sec
1/4 mile in 14.1 sec @101mph
skidpad is .88g
weight is over 3300 lbs

Go to http://www.ragusa.cc/public and copy the 350Z CD.zip

This is what I got in the mail (and what I believe Yama1yzf also received).

Still not bad for a NA car, but not 315hp and this is straight from a Nissan promo CD. So if it changes at least I have a collectors item.:devil:

I received a package from Nissan this week that includes a cool CD and cards with all the final production specs for the 350Z. Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but the HP is officially 287. :(

Originally posted by AznAlby
315 hp in the new Z? That would seriously kick some @$$. Thank God it's unblown too. If this is true, there won't be any other cars that I know of which will even count as competition to the Z in its price range.

Well, maybe not after GM discontinues the Z28/Firebird next year, anyhow.

yeah, in the new car and driver, they tested the track version saying that it had 287 hp and went 0-60 in 5.4 sec

yep, just got Autoweek, they have 287HP and 274 lbs-ft of torque and wt is about 3250 with a slight edge in power to wt ratio than the boxster s (not too shabby, but 300 hp would have been nice)

As I've said many times before, every Nissan engine deserves a turbocharger. They always respond very well to boost. The 300ZXTT pulled 300 hp out of a 3 liter V6. The savvy 350Z owner has a 3.5 liter V6, and the ability to buy a ball-bearing turbo that is vastly superior to what was available 10 years ago. I don't think I have to tell you what the obvious conclusion is. Porsches are rarely modified, so I don't think we have anything to worry about...

You all are forgetting the cheapest contenders...the GM F-Bodies. I have a 98 Z28 that dynoed 286 rwhp and 313 lb-ft torque bone stock. My 0-60 ranges from 4.78 to 5.16 depending on engine temp (1/4 in 12.89 @ 104 mph). So why am I on a 300zx website? I want better handling and gas mileage and the 300z's are where it's at. I personally like the styling of a 300z over the 350z, but it is nonetheless beautiful. If it's really giving 315hp I'll be the first guy on the lot when they arrive, but I seriously doubt it. 280...easy, 300...maybe, 315? not unless nissan annexed italy.

sorry guys the 350Z will only pack 287 HP. Nissan just mailed me the final specs at that's what it has. That's cool with me. I still pre ordered mine!!! Dan

bah...estimated 280hp N/A engine is fucking powerful, just think of the possibilities if you add a bolt on turbo. With its 3.5 liter displacement, you can exceed boosts far beyond any 2.6 liter skyline engine.

But the Skyline v35 has the vq35de engine also, you think nissan or Nismo, or maybe even Stillin might tweak it alittle in the future..Highly possible. I wonder how well the New GT-R vs 350Z will rack up on performance. Only time will tell...muwhahahah!!! **coughs**

I absolutely agree with your first sentence...

But something goes terribly wrong in the second. The idea that the VQ35DE(T) will outperform the RB26DETT is very, very wrong. In terms of displacement, the VQ has more. That's it. The RB26DETT is a vastly superior design. Even as the engines humbly begin life as a single chunk of metal, the RB26 is simply a better motor. Compare a thick, sand cast iron block (RB), to a thin, die-cast aluminum one (VQ).

The RB26 is easily tuned in excess of 1000 bhp. The RBX-GT2 (a strengthened RB26) hits 10,000 RPM without a hitch. It's a nearly perfect motor, the modern equivalent of the 426 Hemi.

The VQ (and its QR and VZ brethren) are more "evolved" designs. In other words, they look just like Toyota or Honda motors (except the crankshafts still turn the right direction). The VQ35 will never replace the RB26. Renault went for it because they're already tooled to make several billion of them (notice almost all Nissans carry them now?), so they're cheap to make and they do the job. Plus there were some emissions issues, but if MotoRex was able to fix it, so could they. It's the same deal as when the SR20DET replaced the CA18DET. Not better, just cheaper.

I suspect that the first mod done to the R35 GT-R will be an RB26 engine swap. :smoker2:

hmm..i see where your going with this..i have to say that i agree with you...the rb26dett engine..looks to be far more durable. Yet we still have yet to see the full capabilities of the vq30de(t)..if the model ever comes to exsistance..

I am actually quite glad that they 287hp. In the recent past, Nissan has been a little *optimistic* as to their power claims. This one seems like it could be legit.

Hi. I work at a car dealership in southern california and we just got a touring z. HP is 287. Ill let you guys know when we get more and if the HP is different for the other trims. Peace.

People, people you want more horses, just turbocharge the car !

the other engine maybe stronger BUT it is not b/c of the material, Al when done properly (the right alloys that are mixed in and heat treated) is far stronger (pound for pound) than Iron, all racing engines are made with Al b/c of the wt advantage, the stiffness and strength. Sure it is more brittle, but the strength is far greater that it will hardly ever exerience failure (unless you add 30# of boost of course, for something that isn't designed for it). In reality the cost of Al over iron is 3-10+ as much, depending on the grade of each material. also, Al when done right is even as strong or stronger than Ti (titanium). I am sure that the other motor is stronger by design, but it is NOT the material that is making it stronger.

I agree with you, also the cylinder bore has a metal sleeve, which reinforce the engine block. This can be replace so maybe some one can make some out of Titanium, like they do for Honda engines. But , expensive.

I thought the hondas used a nickel and ceramic combo??

I don't know the exact metal composition of the metal sleeves for a Honda engine, all i said was that you can have them made out of Ti. This could be apply to the VQ35 engine, if more strenght is needed.:)