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drumpet15
11-08-2004, 07:33 PM
I want to buy a Civic hatchback, but I'm having trouble deciding what to buy. Should I get a 92-93 and put in a B16 or B18? Or should I get a 94-95 and put in a different engine? I'm a big Civic fan, but I'm still learning the ropes. Please help me!

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 07:37 PM
ok, if youre goin to ask advice, please give us all the details, like what sre you planning on doing with this car, drag, autocross, show, what? Second, how much money do you have to spend? (FYI '92-'95 was the same body style)

drumpet15
11-08-2004, 07:40 PM
I want to race this car and I've got a few thousand to spend right now. I will be saving more money, though. (I know the body is the same, but is the engine different???)

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 07:42 PM
ok, what kind of racing???? Drag or autocross?

CivicSpoon
11-08-2004, 07:44 PM
it's only different between each model (Si, DX, VX, CX). The CX and VX are the lightest, but also come with the slowest engines stock; 70hp and 92hp respectively. If you need anymore differences, do a search I know for a fact there are a few threads about it (I know because I've posted in them).

drumpet15
11-08-2004, 07:46 PM
Mostly drag racing

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 07:46 PM
ok, id do a b18c (GSR) swap and turbo

Jetts
11-08-2004, 07:49 PM
ok, id do a b18c (GSR) swap and turbo

go with the ls and a turbo 12psi stock

drumpet15
11-08-2004, 07:49 PM
Why that one and not a different engine? (just wondering)

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 07:53 PM
because thats what im doing, duh! lol jk, actually, i chose it beacuse is has lower compression than the type r (b18c5) (Better for turbo), and its Vtech (i know some people think a non vtech is better for turbo, but my personal belief is with the right turbo cam, the vtech feature will help), and its bigger than the b16 (obviously better for turbo) I know some people will disagree with what im sayin, but this is what i gathered by doin research, and it cant hurt to do some reseach og your own.

Jetts
11-08-2004, 07:55 PM
im just saying the ls cause it will handle more boost stock vs. stock against the gsr

CivicSpoon
11-08-2004, 07:56 PM
yeah like research on how to spell VTEC (no H) ;)
But with a GSR, you can't boost as much on the stock internals as you would be able to with the LS motor. And the LS already has a little more torque than the GSR does.

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 07:57 PM
well, im not sure about that, ive heard the gsr can handle about the same. But if hes goin to internal work, that is where the GSR will shine. (Again, my personal opinion)

CivicSpoon
11-08-2004, 08:00 PM
no the GSR can not handle as much boost on stock internals, I don't know where you heard that but it's wrong. But yes if he did new internals in a GSR it would be better than a stock internal LS.

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 08:02 PM
yeah like research on how to spell VTEC (no H) ;)
But with a GSR, you can't boost as much on the stock internals as you would be able to with the LS motor. And the LS already has a little more torque than the GSR does.

ouch, got me there CivicSpoon :banghead:, now can u tell me why u cant, because its my understanding the b18b and b18c1 are virtually the same except V-TEC (no H). lol

GScivic7
11-08-2004, 08:03 PM
no way the GSR will handle as much boost as a B18B, simply because of 9.2:1 compression vs. 10.1:1 compression. Best stock motor to boost is the B18B hands down. If you were to build internals it's still a toss up. With a B18C you want to lower the CR, but if you do that you lose power. And about the cams, turbo cams have less duration and valve overlap, VTEC cams are usually designed for more lift and duration, kind of defeating the purpose there again throwing in turbo cams in a VTEC head.

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 08:05 PM
Thanks GS, i guess whoever i heard that from was wrong, what u said makes sence.

GScivic7
11-08-2004, 08:07 PM
Honestly, for power though I would so go with a B18C, but most people on here aren't building drag cars, they are building street cars. A turboed b18b would be perfect for a street car. The B18C does have a lot of good things going for it for a drag motor. High redline, block girdle, oil squirters for the pistons and the extra oomph from VTEC, all good things for a drag car, but for street car you want torque basically, the B18B will give you that.

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 08:10 PM
Again, very true, but i guess im biased because im building a drag b18c...

drumpet15
11-08-2004, 08:14 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll definitely do some more research on my own, but that helps tremendously!

Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 08:15 PM
Glad we could help:silly:

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