Will the 4 lugs CTR/ITR rims fit on a civic? Anybody knows their bolt pattern?
Thanx:D

There are no 4 lug type R rims. All CTR's and ITR's are 5 lug.

civic r and vtec integras have 5 lug hubs.

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
There are no 4 lug type R rims. All CTR's and ITR's are 5 lug.
Hey RiceRocketeer!!! Nice to see ya again...This is fjtom (from P.R.)from the old PH board he he

Well Man THEY DO EXIST!!!!! I went to Jamaica this winter and i was amazed to see them. Yes they do exist,ITR and CRT 4 lug wheels and here's the proff.
This is a pic of an ITR at the track in Verham field, Jamaica. As you can see those are CTR/ITR rims and the whells are 4 lugs. I saw tons of this over there.And theyre not fake!!
http://home.collegeclub.com/fjtomei/files/JaITR.jpg
Surprised huh?

damn crazy non-american spec 4 lug type r hubs! :) u SURE its not fake???

good luck finding those

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
damn crazy non-american spec 4 lug type r hubs! :) u SURE its not fake???

I don't think you can fake 4 lugs vs. 5-lugs. But I'm curious to know what country this ITR was marketed for, and why it has 4-lugs, rather than the standard JDM/USDM 5-lug configuration? Did the owner convert it, or did it come from the factory like that? And if from the factory, then why do peeps fret over 5-lug conversions just to get ITR/CTR rims? Why not just get the 4-lug version, and it'll be almost the same, minus the 5th lug... :confused:

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic
I don't think you can fake 4 lugs vs. 5-lugs.

i meant a fake type r, not fake lug pattern... :)

Originally posted by fjt
Hey RiceRocketeer!!! Nice to see ya again...This is fjtom (from P.R.)from the old PH board he he

Well Man THEY DO EXIST!!!!! I went to Jamaica this winter and i was amazed to see them. Yes they do exist,ITR and CRT 4 lug wheels and here's the proff.
This is a pic of an ITR at the track in Verham field, Jamaica. As you can see those are CTR/ITR rims and the whells are 4 lugs. I saw tons of this over there.And theyre not fake!!
Surprised huh?

Holy Crap, what's up man? I haven't seen you in ages. How have you been? Are you all still hanging out at CHB?

And are you sure they're not fake? How do you know they're real?

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer


Holy Crap, what's up man? I haven't seen you in ages. How have you been? Are you all still hanging out at CHB?

And are you sure they're not fake? How do you know they're real?

WASABIIIII!!!!!! Yeah im still hanging around CHB:D

First of all YES they're real and not fake. The country is JAMAICA and as you can see the front end also is not the same as the USDM round lights integra.I only saw like one "USDM" front end integra in the time i spent there. I saw TONS!!! of this car over there and the majoryty of Type R's i saw(specially the Integras) where 4 lugs. I even went to a dealer over there to check them out and saw the new ITR.
This picture is from a friends friend integra and is a real Type R

I have friend over there so im gonna tell them to send me more pictures of those 4 lugs ITR rims.

JAMAICA gets all JDM spec cars and they get some rare stuff that we even don't know about it. I even saw there the Mitsu Lancer EVOLUTION,the AWD turbo car,Skylines(alot of them) and some more that i even didn't knew about them.

I'm gonna have to drop on by and say hello then. I've wanted to ask a question to someone in PR that knows about cars. I visited la patria for Thanxgiving last year and everywhere I saw, all the lowered hondas and mitsubishi's I saw that were lowered (which were damn near all of them) had lower tie bars. Why the heck do they ALL have lower tie bars? I mean is it like a package kit they all pay for? And I have to ask you questions about all the puerto rican cars :)

But if they are real, then I can't tell from the picture if it's a 4 x 100 or 4 x 114 or whatever the other size is :) But if you could get a closer picture, I could tell you.

But yeah even in PR they have cars I don't see here. I saw maserati's, rally edition lancers, etc.

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
But yeah even in PR they have cars i don't see here.

man in mexico their ford escorts have all wheel disc brakes. even MEXICO gets better FORDS than we do. man were getting screwed over here.

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
I'm gonna have to drop on by and say hello then. I've wanted to ask a question to someone in PR that knows about cars. I visited la patria for Thanxgiving last year and everywhere I saw, all the lowered hondas and mitsubishi's I saw that were lowered (which were damn near all of them) had lower tie bars. Why the heck do they ALL have lower tie bars? I mean is it like a package kit they all pay for? And I have to ask you questions about all the puerto rican cars :)

But if they are real, then I can't tell from the picture if it's a 4 x 100 or 4 x 114 or whatever the other size is :) But if you could get a closer picture, I could tell you.

But yeah even in PR they have cars I don't see here. I saw maserati's, rally edition lancers, etc.

Nahh, its just that like 80% of the ppl that gets the tie bar think "Ohh Im cool, i have a race car now, my tie bar says im fast" he he all that stuff. I've even seen non lowered cars with the tie bar on. Its just "uninformeted" ppl that thinks that a tie bar will make you handle like crazy on the street and the product of the Race shops here that tell you anything just to sell you out something..
I bought my car used and it even came with it LOL...I've wanted to take it out and replace it for a real suspension performance upgrade like a rear sway bar.
You can ask me what yu want about P.R cars and ill try to answer. Yeah Mitsu Evo's Rally edition is what you see now but theyre shitty, just a 115hp car for the kind of advertisement they get. The only sweet thing about them is that they come with OZ wheels.

Im working out for a better closer pic of those rims. I already called my friend in Jamaica and she'shiting the road to take pictures.

This thread got me interested in the search for the 4 lug ITR rims and I was browsing through some Japanese sites but did not actually find a picture of the 4 lug but I found a drawing of one, probably an official honda sketch or something like that. So, maybe there are 4 lug ITR rims out there as fjt claims.

they had 4x114 on 96 JDM ITRs...all CTRs have 5 lugs...they won't fit a civic though, so no beans:D

For all you ITR/CTR rim fans out that that DON'T have $2000 for an axle conversion for the 5th lug, you might wanna look into these... (http://www.wheeloptions.com/wheel/RHEvo/RHEvo_CP8.html) ;)

They are by no means the ones in the pic above, but they ARE almost identically the same thing, just not OEM. =/

Originally posted by fjt
Nahh, its just that like 80% of the ppl that gets the tie bar think "Ohh Im cool, i have a race car now, my tie bar says im fast"

Oh ok, cause it looked kinda creepy. I mean everyone that I saw had one. Which I thought was rather cool cause that implies that all these ppl have totally done up thier suspensions to the point where they EVEN got the bar. But I guess that was too good to be true ;)

One more thing I wanted ask you is you ppl drive lowered compacts in PR? I mean I sometimes had trouble driving the roads in my dads friggin SUV!! The friggin potholes I went over in that thing would've KILLED my car. I went to El Yunque and around the fajardo area, some of the inclines that I drove over were seriously 45 degree angles. A friend of mine agreed, we would never be able to drive our cars there. But yet I saw a shitload of lowered honda's and mitsu's. How the hell do you do it?

One thing that did get to me was how EVERYONE drove a "hooked up" car there. I mean I went to Salinas, a friggin town with a population of like 10,000 and even there I swear I couldn't go a minute without seeing someone try to pimp something out. Even if they just had a cheap system and hubs. Over here we have a mix of normal ppl to ppl who pimp but shit, even Miami doesn't even compare to VAST majority of ppl trying to pimp whatever. It was kind of cool tho cause everywhere I went, I kind of felt I had something in common with them.

But I could tell you one thing I noticed, the Mirage is the puerto rican civic ;) I even got to see the cream of the rican crop, old but fully restored toyotas with 3 rotor swaps and BIG ASS slicks in the back, I love PR :cool:

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer

One more thing I wanted ask you is you ppl drive lowered compacts in PR? I mean I sometimes had trouble driving the roads in my dads friggin SUV!! The friggin potholes I went over in that thing would've KILLED my car. I went to El Yunque and around the fajardo area, some of the inclines that I drove over were seriously 45 degree angles. A friend of mine agreed, we would never be able to drive our cars there. But yet I saw a shitload of lowered honda's and mitsu's. How the hell do you do it?

One thing that did get to me was how EVERYONE drove a "hooked up" car there. I mean I went to Salinas, a friggin town with a population of like 10,000 and even there I swear I couldn't go a minute without seeing someone try to pimp something out. Even if they just had a cheap system and hubs. Over here we have a mix of normal ppl to ppl who pimp but shit, even Miami doesn't even compare to VAST majority of ppl trying to pimp whatever. It was kind of cool tho cause everywhere I went, I kind of felt I had something in common with them.



Ha ha, we get to manage our roads .Its a thing of getting used to it and entering at the right angle. Yeah we do have lowered compacts(alot), mine is lowered and at first i hit constantlly the ground but now i barelly touch it cause i know(as the other ppl with lowered cars) exactlly how to take the road.
Man if you think we have bad roads you should go to Jamaica.You wouldn't drive you car in P.R. as i wouldn't even try to drive mine in Jamaican roads he he..
Probably the reason you saw so many hooked up cars at Salinas is beacuse there is where the Salinas SPEEDWAY track is. One of thw 2 most imp and crowded tracks in P.R.. Now that you mention all the hooked up cars there are in P.R. its sad that we don't have too many import car shows(just classic old car shows)

The mirage in Puerto Rico is like the "Ombligo" in a person.Everyone and their mother has one he he he..Curentlly Hondas and Mirages are the biggest enemies down here.If you get inot a light beside a mirage its almost shure that youre going to have "the looks" by each driver and its almost a sure race. We even have at the track Mitsu Vs. Honda exclusive events.
But I could tell you one thing I noticed, the Mirage is the puerto rican civic ;) I even got to see the cream of the rican crop, old but fully restored toyotas with 3 rotor swaps and BIG ASS slicks in the back, I love PR :cool:
He he i guess you saw alot of "bone stock looking" CRX's..he he. If you find one on the street your dead meat. Almost all of them are sleepers with lots of things under the hood he he..I would better race an integra than a crx LOL...I wouldn't lost by too much with the teg he he...I have a friend that had a TurboII RX7 and he got smoked pretty bad by a stock looking REX...http://forums.civicland.com/images/smiles//icon23.gif

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Here is one more picture for you RiceRocketeer, a closer cleaner and better one.

http://home.collegeclub.com/fjtomei/files/4lugITR.jpg

how would they have fake ITR rims? :rolleyes: look at them, they are the exact same as their JDM counter part, just four lug.

Originally posted by fjt
Here is one more picture for you RiceRocketeer, a closer cleaner and better one.[/IMG]

Ahh yes, 4 x 100 lug pattern. Thanx, I'd save it but I don't have a comp. :(

I gotta let you know the next time I goto PR so you can show me the hot spots :)

Originally posted by 1995HondaCivic
how would they have fake ITR rims? :rolleyes: look at them, they are the exact same as their JDM counter part, just four lug.

Not fake rims, fake Type R's. You know like the Accord Type R's and the Civic Type R's we have so plentiful in the good ole USofA. What's harder, getting a real ITR or getting an LS and getting stickers and some convincing looking rims for them?

Originally posted by fjt
Here is one more picture for you RiceRocketeer, a closer cleaner and better one.

BTW, if anyone there doesn't want thier ITR rims anymore, let me know, I can get money :D

Originally posted by fjt
Here is one more picture for you RiceRocketeer, a closer cleaner and better one.

http://home.collegeclub.com/fjtomei/files/4lugITR.jpg

Those are the 4x114.3 wheels....there were never 4x100 ITR or CTR wheels

Squooooze me. They looked like 4x100 because of the size of the inner H symbol.

Originally posted by fjt
Here is one more picture for you RiceRocketeer, a closer cleaner and better one.

http://home.collegeclub.com/fjtomei/files/4lugITR.jpg

dont the civic HX rims look just like these, maybe smaller but basically same

Yeah I was thinking that. Probably made by Enkie as well.