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Scale-Master
11-05-2004, 10:39 AM
The first completed scratchbuilt subassembly for the new "Blue Seven". 20 individual machined parts, one custom made decal and two wires. The reservoir was machined from leftover casting resin. The rest is 6061 aluminum. - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC00003.jpg

swollen
11-05-2004, 10:43 AM
:eek:

white97ex
11-05-2004, 10:54 AM
wow

JTRACING
11-05-2004, 11:04 AM
That detail is Insane!!!! I wish I had access to that sort of equipment!

SupaMan89T
11-05-2004, 01:18 PM
Mmmmmm mmmm mmmmmmm mmmmm mmmmm! :eek2: :lol:

675datsun
11-05-2004, 02:17 PM
You are the 1:12 SCALE MASTER!
You give new meaning to the frequently used word, "scratchbuilt".

The reservoir is beautiful, as are the inlets. Do you actually flare the brake lines? :grinno:
Is there a scratchbuilt booster to go along with it?

WeaPoN [X]
11-05-2004, 03:01 PM
The pic wont fully upload for me...ahhh! I know that its going to be AMAZING...Ill try again later. For now ill just be content looking at your avatar. *drool* 1/12 perfection.

edit: There it is...NiCE!

GTmike400
11-05-2004, 03:58 PM
Very, interesting. Great build in itself!

proosen
11-05-2004, 04:23 PM
That is like a kit in it self, just amazing what some people can manage. I want a lathe and a pile of spare time to use it!

Niclas

Scale-Master
11-05-2004, 06:13 PM
Thanks All. No power brake booster, it's only a Super Seven, no power anything, except the engine. At this time I plan on putting it on the bottle, not much room for anything else behind the seats... - Mark

GT-Alex
11-05-2004, 08:44 PM
Not another one ! Nobody will dare to post pics after seeing that level of detail. Except hiroboy...

ImolaEK
11-05-2004, 11:33 PM
Not another one ! Nobody will dare to post pics after seeing that level of detail. Except hiroboy...

:lol: Awesome detail. Your very creative :thumbsup:

1986Z28
11-06-2004, 12:19 AM
whoa that must have taken a long time man, nice job

Scale-Master
11-10-2004, 01:26 PM
Vented and crossdrilled, I machined these from aluminum too... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09878.jpg

rx7king
11-10-2004, 02:53 PM
oh man, what can we say ..."scale-MASTER"

GvEman
11-10-2004, 02:57 PM
:eek2: damn! you realy are the Scale Master!

mave
11-22-2004, 03:49 PM
Hi Mark,

when could we expect an update? I'm really looking forward to it, with a 1/12 Caterham on its way....

Marcel

Scale-Master
11-23-2004, 12:43 PM
Can't say exactly when. These things take time, the rims may be the next thing I finish, but who knows, they were the first parts I started on this project back in August and I have several parts and sub assemblies going now. Don't worry, I'll post as soon as I have something worthy... - Mark

skypie
11-23-2004, 12:56 PM
No! Please! No More!! No More!! Please!!


I've just changed my undies! dont make me soil them! :lol:
Man, Anyone notice the big Difference with the builders of last year and the builders of today? really amazing!

mave
11-23-2004, 01:21 PM
O.k. I'll wait.
Meanwhile, have you seen these 1/12 Caterhams?: http://www.mycaterham.com/21102/15191.html

He's even milling the wheels. Not to mention his work on the engine.... I think he's in your league Mark!

mrceej
11-23-2004, 01:26 PM
man, i wish i had your skills. your screen name suits you perfectly.

Scale-Master
11-23-2004, 01:46 PM
I machined my own wheels too, but mine are a split 7 spoke (web?) design (divide that into 360 degrees). And done without the aid of cad/cam programs, all old school machining here... - Mark

mrceej
11-23-2004, 01:53 PM
wow! i took all the CAD classes at my local community college. i can't even imagine how hard it would be to do without some type of CAD program. makes the work all that more impressive.

tonioseven
11-24-2004, 09:24 AM
Okay, I quit!!:eek:

Scale-Master
12-07-2004, 01:58 PM
Finished Super Seven Wheels
Well, except for the valve caps, thought I'd enjoy the the stems in the cores for a while... and the center caps, I haven't decided what style they'll be for sure yet... and they haven't been balanced yet either, that'll come later... - Mark
The tires are Tamiya, the rest is 100% scratch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC00008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC00007.jpg

mave
12-07-2004, 02:21 PM
Ouch........I just fell off my chair when I saw your wheels. They're amazing! The valves or just unbelievable!

Will you be making and selling resin copies of those wheels?

Marcel

SniperX13
12-07-2004, 03:05 PM
how did you make those rims? maybe a nice "how to" is in order :)

WeaPoN [X]
12-07-2004, 03:09 PM
Holy.... Those are hot. some progress shots of those rims would be awesome, since they are a masterpeice in itself (or themselves :screwy: ).

JeFF

GlowinGTZ
12-07-2004, 03:38 PM
Finished Super Seven Wheels
Well, except for the valve caps, thought I'd enjoy the the stems in the cores for a while... and the center caps, I haven't decided what style they'll be for sure yet... and they haven't been balanced yet either, that'll come later... - Mark
The tires are Tamiya, the rest is 100% scratch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC00008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC00007.jpg


I wanna see someone put these on a 1/25th :lol2:

GTmike400
12-07-2004, 05:22 PM
Did you say those rims were milled? Truely amazing.

Scale-Master
12-07-2004, 05:32 PM
Thank you.
No plans to sell copies, I don't think anyone would be willing to pay me a fair price for my effort.
Plus you'd need the tires and they only are available from one kit that I know of and retail on it is about $430.00 U.S.
Although someone with a lathe could make the outer parts for the rim and make them fit other tires they may have...

Brief How-To:
I machined the center in 6061 billet aluminum, old school style, not CNC or CAD driven.
7 spokes, split and tapered, figure that into 360 degrees...
Took about 10 hours of machining time for the master center.
I made a silicone mold and cast copies in resin.
Except for the center, the rest of the wheel parts are all individually machined.
There are fronts and rears with different widths and offsets.
The valve cores move like real ones, just for fun.
The gray color is Tamiya Light Gunmetal. - Mark

GTmike400
12-07-2004, 05:53 PM
Wow, by hand. I'd love to make rims by using a manual mill, but I dont have any idea how I would make them so perfect. Im guessing you have a radial style rotate table?

Murray Kish
12-07-2004, 05:59 PM
Awesome!

PLEASE show us some 'in-progress' pics of the machining stuff. I'd love to learn more about the 'old school style'...

Murray

willimo
12-07-2004, 06:10 PM
The valves "work?" Wow! Fancy work. Those are beautiful rims. What's the inside/outside diameter of those tires, if I may be so bold?

Scale-Master
12-07-2004, 06:18 PM
Well, they are 205/50R16 (F), and 225/50R16 (R) and it's 1/12 scale. Do you want to know the actual measurements of the bead and tread area diameters of the model tires?

Hiroboy
12-07-2004, 06:33 PM
Love them wheels:)
Can we see a photo of your Lathe and Milling Machine setup Please?

willimo
12-07-2004, 06:57 PM
Do you want to know the actual measurements of the bead and tread area diameters of the model tires?

No, I trust Tamiya bits to be in proper scale.

rx7king
12-07-2004, 10:00 PM
holy shit :eek2:

_WIDE_LOAD_
12-08-2004, 09:03 AM
:iagree:

Okiemodelbuilder
12-08-2004, 09:47 AM
Another masterpiece from the Scale Master!!!

Scale-Master
12-08-2004, 09:48 AM
Here are some in progress shots, captions below each picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09022.jpg
The spokes and mounting holes have been cut on the mill using a rotary table and the facets have been cut into the face on the lathe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09025.jpg
The taper of the spokes have been cut in on the mill and the nearly finished part is being removed from the stock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09898.jpg
The primered parts are the resin copies of the aluminum master, the holes for the valve stems have been drilled in the outer part of the rims. All of what is shown in this frame was painted gunmetal. An additional polished aluminum trim ring makes up the outer side of the mounting bead and another machined (on the lathe) part makes up the inner rim and bead.

GvEman
12-08-2004, 10:18 AM
aswesome!!

Murray Kish
12-08-2004, 11:44 AM
:grinyes:

Thanks. Looks fun!!

Murray

GTmike400
12-08-2004, 12:52 PM
Thanks for the pictures. Now I have an idea of what to do. Might I ask where you got the end mill?

bigfrit
12-08-2004, 01:06 PM
Very true to your screenname, I love it!

Great skill!

Olivier

Scale-Master
12-08-2004, 04:22 PM
Thanks for the pictures. Now I have an idea of what to do. Might I ask where you got the end mill?
Mike,
I buy most of my end mills from Rutland Tool. - Mark

Scale-Master
12-16-2004, 11:50 AM
The lever and spray head is machined from resin,
the hold down strap is styrene (just below the handle),
the rest is machined aluminum and I made the decals,
of course there is a needle in the gauge...
There is somewhere over a dozen parts in the extinguisher alone,
but who's counting...
The strap is not latched to the holder in the last pic,
but does go over the boss and the safety pin secures it. - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09266.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09268.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09271.jpg

rx7king
12-16-2004, 11:52 AM
omg, your amazing :eek2: so much detail

flyonthewall
12-16-2004, 12:04 PM
Outstanding work!

GvEman
12-16-2004, 12:16 PM
omg, your amazing :eek2: so much detail

:eek2: :iagree:

Hiroboy
12-16-2004, 12:44 PM
So that's the referance, where is the scale version ? :)

DJPaul
12-16-2004, 12:54 PM
Most beautifull work I've ever seen

willimo
12-16-2004, 01:11 PM
No fair, you rock too hard! Love it, it is seriously very difficult to tell it from the real thing.

nis.k.a.
12-16-2004, 01:38 PM
So that's the referance, where is the scale version ? :)

No doubt. That's outstanding.

tonioseven
12-16-2004, 03:18 PM
That fire extinguisher has more details than my last 3 models combined!!!:eek: Awesome stuff!!:sunglasse

DavkeG
12-16-2004, 04:37 PM
I can honestly say that's the most beautiful fire-extinguisher I ever saw.

Howielong
12-16-2004, 06:21 PM
Holy fudge this thing is great. I will be following this.

RallyRaider
12-16-2004, 06:35 PM
I'm impressed! When is it due for it's next safety check?

deedlit
12-17-2004, 04:29 AM
:eek2: :eek2: Cant' believe my eyes :eek2: :eek2:

Scale-Master
04-08-2005, 02:04 PM
Since this car won't have a spare tire, I made this instead.
It's a copy of the can of junk I keep in my Z/28 trunk, just in case and only as a last resort...
And yes, the bottom of the can has the code printed on it and there is a core in the valve too... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09366.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09370.jpg

Hiroboy
04-08-2005, 02:14 PM
Outstanding stuff :)

Vric
04-08-2005, 02:16 PM
Damn. It's your fault if our model don't look good. You put the stadard way too high :D

Even if I would like to put that much attention, I would not be able.

Incredible work

jja1969
04-08-2005, 04:29 PM
holy fu#$in shit :worshippy

SchuberT
04-09-2005, 02:43 PM
I can honestly say that's the most beautiful fire-extinguisher I ever saw.

Better than the real thing!

Great building Mark!

2.2 Straight six
04-09-2005, 03:36 PM
wibble wobble, *shaking with excitement*

white97ex
04-09-2005, 04:48 PM
amazing..simply amazing

Scale-Master
05-19-2005, 05:04 PM
This is the cog for the water pump (with mounting hardware)... (it was refinished before permanently I mounted it)...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC095302.jpg
and cog (note the backside) for the crankshaft (including the harmonic balancer and pulleys for the alternator and oil pump), machined in one main piece, (not counting the flanged mounting nut, it is the red one in the bottom picture)...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC095292.jpg
and the and the completed assembly including the machined timing belt and idlers. 20 individual pieces not including the engine block. I also made the decals, (and the part number is the correct OEM-GM number according to my catalog).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC095422.jpg
... - Mark

GTmike400
05-19-2005, 05:42 PM
Speechless. Friggin' amazing

Alfa 147
05-19-2005, 05:46 PM
Now that's amazing, just perfect :worshippy

Amazon
05-19-2005, 05:50 PM
Thanks. You make the rest of us seem like Lego-builders! :screwy: Truly detailing in its meaning, i mean part numbers on the parts..
:worshippy

exc911ence
05-19-2005, 06:05 PM
amazing! you really live up to your screen name.

freakmech
05-19-2005, 06:19 PM
i quit modelling.... look for my kits on ebay soon. thanks alot.

SoCalMark
05-19-2005, 08:19 PM
So are you trying to go to Japan again? Those new parts are over the top.
Mark

injecting
05-19-2005, 09:40 PM
Oh my god your insane. That's just crazy I'm speechless :eek7:

Murray Kish
05-19-2005, 10:41 PM
Amazing.... and depressing at the same time....

Thanks

Murray

white97ex
05-19-2005, 10:49 PM
wow. nothing else to say. makes my stuff look like ..like...nothing at all. non existent

tardster
05-20-2005, 04:43 AM
Well now that you have managed to slap, step, stomp, and crush our ego's why not just kick us while were down to and give us another update. LOL...

drnitrus
05-20-2005, 09:29 AM
And I thought I was starting to pick up some skills...after seeing your stuff I feel like should just close up shop. lol Great stuff cant wait to see more.

SchuberT
05-20-2005, 10:12 AM
I expect a running engine by the end of this project.

Scale-Master
05-20-2005, 10:45 AM
Doubt if it will run, not sure about the spark plugs or the distributor innards yet...
But I am working on the oil system right now just in case, and even if it doesn't run, it will probably at least have oil.
This is supposed to inspire you to build more and enjoy the work you do.
I know most are, but I certainly hope all the tones of discouragement are only meant as dry humor. Go build on something!
Thanks all... - Mark

white97ex
05-20-2005, 10:51 AM
definately dry humor on my part. you are without a doubt the scale master. with the right tools, and time to learn how to use them properly we could all churn out such masterpeices. its all a matter of honing your skills. i can't wait to see more on this one

drnitrus
05-20-2005, 11:18 AM
im just messin around. lol i love to see these types of skillful builds just makes me want to build more

Scale-Master
05-20-2005, 11:40 AM
"with the right tools, and time to learn how to use them properly"

Sometimes you have to learn how to use your tools "improperly" too.
I'm not saying carelessly or unsafely, just don't take the stated limits for granted...

Just like always looking at everything you see and how it can be used for something else...
After all, that timing belt started out as a common black nylon Zip-Tie (or wire tie wrap).
True, there is a ton of machine work in it, but it worked better than the other materials I tried... - Mark

Scale-Master
07-15-2005, 07:02 PM
I've been able to finish another part...
At least 27 machined parts plus etched brass and custom decals. Note the thumb screws for the wire cover and the oil cap have seven facets... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09302.jpg

white97ex
07-15-2005, 07:18 PM
amazing....do you think that a drill press could be set up as a lathe? i've been thinking about getting one. im sure that i will need one for my 1:1 projects as well.

Vric
07-15-2005, 07:36 PM
Wow look so clean.. how did you make the letter so clean ? machined ?

bhop73
07-15-2005, 08:16 PM
Man.. that's awesome. I hope you'll bring some of this stuff to Orange Con this year! :iceslolan:

ImolaEK
07-15-2005, 09:37 PM
Wow! That is soo good ! Keep posting please! Its a pleasure watching your work! Seriously, this makes me just want to go work on my models;)

GTmike400
07-15-2005, 11:53 PM
amazing....do you think that a drill press could be set up as a lathe? i've been thinking about getting one. im sure that i will need one for my 1:1 projects as well.

Lathes spin horizontally not vertically. The bearings in the drill press are not meant for lateral forces. So not even the milling machine conversions work for drill presses. It would be much better to just buy a lathe a mill instead of jury rigging one together.

Mark, great work. Each piece of the model is a model in itself.

circuitR
07-16-2005, 03:52 AM
Speechless, everyone has said exactly what I am thinking.
Keep up the amazing work, this car will look great when finished.

Honoturtle
07-16-2005, 04:22 AM
Top notch stuff! How did I miss this one! :sunglasse

badboy00z
07-16-2005, 02:42 PM
Dang...that's crazy. With your skills, you should build a fully functional 1/4 scale engine and transmission. Or even a whole car. Haha. Have you ever considered machining detail parts for 1/10 RC cars?? I'd really want a set of big cross drilled rotors and calipers for my rc. Don't have to be functional. It's be just for show.

Scale-Master
07-17-2005, 08:20 PM
Thanks all. Now for the answers...

Drill presses are more akin to a mill than a lathe, but the head stock is not strong enough to withstand the sideways forces generated by a moving table like Mike said, so the answer would be no. But you can do some simple lathe like work with any drill motor. Although my equipment is rather small, I have made several parts for my real Camaro, some over 6 inches in diameter.
Get the machine equipment, you'll be glad you did. Like they say, the pain of payment goes away long before the joy of excitement wears off...

I chemically etched the lettering on the wire cover in brass. I'm not crazy enough to machine that (yet).

This won't be done in time for OrangeCon '05, probably won't be done for '06 either. Been working on it for well over a year, and I've posted all I've made for it. Still a ton of work ahead.
I'm loving this build as I did the red one, and that one took quite a while. When it's done, it's done. I'm building it just for me to see what I can do...
Like Mike noted, I am going for every piece as if it is a model by it's self.

I have built real cars too, but my brother is building a running small block Chevy copy in 1/4 or 1/5 scale. I'm sure I'll finish this one before he fires his puppy up. But when he does get it done, you can bet I'll be braggin' about him and the motor! Insert "I'm not that crazy" here...

And ImolaEK, a special thanks for that comment, that is so much what I want to do, inspire others to build more. - Mark

Vric
07-17-2005, 08:52 PM
I chemically etched the lettering on the wire cover in brass. I'm not crazy enough to machine that (yet).



Ok... and how do you do that ? IT sound crazy enough for me :icon16:

WasteGas
07-18-2005, 11:18 PM
:bricks1: :22yikes:

yer skillz are to hard to comprehend. :biggrin:

Scale-Master
07-25-2005, 10:49 AM
What's normally one, (or two parts, if you count the fitting that comes in the kit), is now made up of a couple dozen parts, mostly aluminum.
I also textured it to simulate a cast finish... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09380.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09379.jpg

g00eY
07-25-2005, 11:28 AM
very nice.

GTmike400
07-25-2005, 01:31 PM
Extremely well done. I hope one day I can do something of that caliber. Top notch, you are definately raising the bar sky high.

rsxse240
07-25-2005, 02:59 PM
holy crap.......


holy....crap........


that's just beautiful, all of it!! I applaud you, and your dedication to your love of this car and hobby.

should you enter this into the tamiya contest...you'd better be going to Japan, this is a masterpiece!!

Scale-Master
07-25-2005, 03:09 PM
should you enter this into the tamiya contest...you'd better be going to Japan, this is a masterpiece!!

I have already won the TamiyaCon, and went to Japan twice.
But I have heard rumors they are planning on having a past winners contest next year.
So I can enter something in a separate Past Winners Only category.

Has nothing to do with the regular contest.

No one will win another trip from what I heard, and it has to be something we made since winning.
I doubt this model will be done in time for it next year though.
But I will bring the parts I have made to show in person... - Mark

GTmike400
07-25-2005, 04:51 PM
Mark...come over to the east coast. I'd love to see this stuff in person. NNL South is November 12 and its a very large show.

Scale-Master
07-25-2005, 08:55 PM
Thanks for the invite Mike, but I'm kinda "Showed Out" right now.
I'd really rather just build right now.
I still have a bunch of work ahead of me to put on my contest at the end of September too.
Hey, why don't you come out and visit my show?
I'll be glad to show you my collection, and no, I don't enter in my contest if that matters... - Mark

Horrse
07-25-2005, 09:00 PM
holy crap you really are a scale-master... wish I could run a lathe I bet making your own parts saves you quite a bit of money, plus they look better

alphalanos
07-25-2005, 09:10 PM
In the voice of Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force ..."you have got to be frikin' kidding me.

Awesome. I cant wait to set up a little shop of my own. I have a good list of parts that I'd like to try to make for my real car...

sportracer02
07-26-2005, 01:06 AM
Hi,

great stuff, looks like the real thing

PRIVATEER
07-26-2005, 01:49 AM
Truly amazing work. I would like to see this at NNL South as well.

Vric
07-26-2005, 10:13 AM
You should make and sell some part :D

I would be very happy to get the marking on the engin block for exemple :D

Scale-Master
07-26-2005, 11:19 AM
The part with the filter is 100% scratchbuilt/machined from aluminum parts, (except for the gasket I made for the filter).
The base was textured to give a cast appearance, and I made the decal on the filter.
The remote adapter part uses one modified kit piece, the rest is machined aluminum too.
14 or 15 pieces between the two of them... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09385.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09384.jpg

p9o1r1sche
07-26-2005, 11:51 AM
Maybe I missed this part, but how did you achieve the textured look on these parts?

Scale-Master
07-26-2005, 12:06 PM
The texturing on the oil filter mount and the oil pan were both done with spraying dry coats of paint, but each part has a different texture.

Different paints, pressures and amounts of paint applied are the ways I acheived the different looks.

Enamels tend to make a coarser texture, lacquers tend to make a finer texture, by combining the two (either by layering, or by mixing) you can control the look.

Distance from the air brush (or spray can if that's what you have) is another determining factor.

Practice and see what works best for you... - Mark

vanilla gorilla
07-26-2005, 12:49 PM
How do you find the time to do all of this stuff?

Scale-Master
07-26-2005, 01:30 PM
How do you find the time to do all of this stuff?

A very good and poignant question. Good time management, and, COFFEE! And...

You don't see how much work I actually put in, and more importantly, when I do it.
It's an illusion that I crank this stuff out quickly.
I have been working on these two parts, little by little, for several weeks, along with other parts.
For example, I have been working on the header for it for months, it may get finished today, or maybe not...
Remember the wheels for it took me months of work, and you don't see the wake of wreckage I leave behind striving for the best I can do.
Everything posted in this thread has taken me over a year to make.
It's also pretty much all I do in my spare time. I think about how I plan to execute many parts when I'm doing other more mundane tasks too.
Often I spend an hour or so in the morning before work painting things or assembling sub-assemblies.
Then after work, the stuff I painted maybe dry and ready for more paint or assembly.
It's amazing how so little time spread out during a well planned day can yield so much in the way of finished parts. At the end of a week it's like some of the parts built themselves.
I'll lose entire Saturday's machining parts and hardware, and love it.
It's what I want to do and I consider myself lucky to be doing it and enjoying it so much... - Mark

Now go build something you like!

g00eY
07-26-2005, 01:40 PM
that oil filter is sweet.

Scale-Master
07-27-2005, 01:15 PM
Oil Pump (External)
Kept the pump body from the kit, made new fittings, bolts and the cogged pulley.
(It has seven holes in it's face.)
More texturing too... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09391.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09390.jpg

alphalanos
07-27-2005, 01:18 PM
that is so awesome.

Whumbachumba
07-27-2005, 01:22 PM
*orgasms*

eph2
07-27-2005, 01:25 PM
*orgasms*
:1:

white97ex
07-27-2005, 01:29 PM
sweet

g00eY
07-27-2005, 01:52 PM
nice.

GTmike400
07-27-2005, 01:57 PM
Holy Batman that is amazing....I give up.

Scale-Master
08-02-2005, 08:32 PM
Finally done, (and temporarily mounted to the engine).
The finish is silver Jet Hot Ceramic Coating. It photographs coarse due to the particles, but it is a smooth finish, you'll just have to trust me.
I also made all the nuts, bolts, washers.
The collector flange comes off, (since it's not bolted on yet), and will be "welded" to the pipe after I make the muffler.
For those of you with the kit, compare the stock kit item with this one... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09410.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09408.jpg

amusegt1
08-02-2005, 08:44 PM
thats just awsome!!!:eek2:

675datsun
08-02-2005, 09:13 PM
Sweet Lord,
You are the greatest.
That's it. I think people should re-think the words "scratch built" in their threads!

What are the tubes made from? How did you make the collector? I can't believe that the header actually "bolts" on to the head.

Very, very impressive. I hope you enjoy your work here as much I do!

GTmike400
08-02-2005, 11:26 PM
I dont feel like a scratch builder anymore... :(

Stunning work...absolutely stunning.

g00eY
08-02-2005, 11:51 PM
looks great!

juki86
08-03-2005, 01:32 AM
*absolutely speechless*

Amazon
08-03-2005, 06:08 AM
Now people, iīm getting really tired of this "Scale master" dude posting pics of real stuff and then telling us that itīs in 1/12 :disappoin

Ok, hope u all get the joke :) Iīm very impressed by your abilities and patience with this model, and the joke above is me telling you that it definetly looks 1/1 scale.. :grinyes:

Vric
08-03-2005, 09:29 AM
I just hope this thread won'T be deadlink when I will start mine :D

Scale-Master
08-03-2005, 06:32 PM
Thanks again folks.
I agree the term "Scratchbuilt" is bandied around way too much and applied to what are really conversions and modifications all too often.
While the workmanship may be excellent on those converted and modified parts, scratchbuilding is just what it sounds like.

Technically this header isn't scratchbuilt by my standards of the term, since I used part of the tubes and head flange from the kit.
I did rework them significantly and make all the other parts from scratch though.
Super Detailed, yes, Conversion, maybe, but not truly Scratchbuilt.
I machined the collector, and the other parts, out of aluminum.

(Many of the other parts and sub assemblies I've made for this car are truly scratchbuilt.)

I just looked at your Hot Rod thread again Mike, you're a scratchbuilder...

Vric, I expect this thread to be running for another year or two, at least I don't expect to be able to finish the model in less than probably another year and a half to two years. So if you can get started by then...
Besides, you can always email me. - Mark

ImolaEK
08-03-2005, 06:44 PM
Those 4-1 headers look soo real ! Look just like my buddies ceramic coated headers on his 1:1 car:eek:! That is awesome !

WasteGas
08-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Are you sure this isn't 1:1? :thumbsup:

Zlaja_
08-04-2005, 06:27 AM
So when do we get to see the 1/12 parts?

Scale-Master
08-05-2005, 07:02 PM
OK, I put the scale back in the pictures, and that's a toothpick in the tailshaft hole...

I kept four of the kit's parts, (trans body/tail, trans top cover, bellhousing/oil tank and oil tank top) and made over 50 additional pieces and 6 custom decals. Played with textures too. Even made the gasket for the top cover... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09416.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09417.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09418.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09419.jpg

badboy00z
08-05-2005, 07:37 PM
That's effing nuts.

Whumbachumba
08-05-2005, 08:07 PM
I expect this thing to run after you're done with it.

Vric
08-05-2005, 10:16 PM
Just great..

What do you use a "wire fitting"
Home made again ? :(

white97ex
08-05-2005, 10:19 PM
awesome work.

circuitR
08-05-2005, 11:43 PM
Amazing work, I bet going to Japan to was an experience.

97_sho
08-06-2005, 12:46 AM
omg mark you are nucking futs :lol:

Scale-Master
08-06-2005, 08:22 AM
Thanks all,
I am not familiar with the term "wire fitting" Vric, please explain.

Yes, Japan was a wonderful experience, I enjoyed the first time better on several levels, but the second time it was easier to take it all in.
I highly recommend the trip... - Mark

alakai
08-06-2005, 09:50 AM
Amazing work. Your attention to detail is simply beyond comprehension. Even the anodized fittings have a previously wrenched look. You are truly an inspiration to everyone on this board. :)

Vric
08-06-2005, 09:56 AM
Thanks all,
I am not familiar with the term "wire fitting" Vric, please explain.



The Connector on the wires. The thing you use at the end of the cable (on your picture, the brainded hose)

Scale-Master
08-06-2005, 01:17 PM
Yeah, I'm going for used but clean, so a little wear and dirt will show up throughout, thanks for noticing.

That's a braided oil line, (it attaches to the 90 degree fitting on the front of the oil pan), and yes, I machined all the fittings from aluminum... - Mark

Vric
08-06-2005, 02:15 PM
and yes, I machined all the fittings from aluminum... - Mark


argg..... Wish I could buy that somewhere. add so much details

g00eY
08-06-2005, 03:07 PM
wow...

robrex
08-07-2005, 06:01 PM
I just read this thread from start to finish and can't believe my eyes! The level of detail is jaw dropping!

Makes me want to start a new project! Thanks for the inspiration Mark!

Ralphlovs1969Cars
08-18-2005, 10:24 AM
Being from south California myself and building 1/12 scale, i know everytime i take a model to a show and Mark Jones shows up i know allready that i lost :rolleyes: WOW Mark just awsume work. I seen all your models in person and they all are a piece of art. From your Old's to your Mini Copper and the last super Seven. Now i cant wait to see this one!! You are a true Master Builder. :bigthumb:

p9o1r1sche
08-18-2005, 10:49 AM
Great work, Mark. A couple of questions, how do you put the six flat sides on the small hex fittings? Machine them, file/sand them? Or some other method?
Do you also use brass for the small fittings, or stick with aluminum?

KrNJuN
08-18-2005, 02:59 PM
Stop posting real parts!





I'm playing around with you. Have to say, thats the best I've seen in my entire life! Coming along real nicely.

gnasha
08-19-2005, 08:20 AM
Absolutly fantastic, can't wait to see the rest. By the way where did you find the 12:1 ruler?

Scale-Master
08-19-2005, 09:56 AM
Thanks very much all.
To get the facets on the fittings, I machine the whole part, including the six (or seven) sides.
I usually use aluminum.
I'll use brass occasionally if I want the coloring of brass, or if I am going to solder the parts together. - Mark

Scale-Master
11-02-2005, 12:31 PM
I modified this old Tamiya helmet into a copy of my old Griffin and painted it with a more contemporary scheme.
Tamiya Chrome Yellow with the new Pearl Clear over it.
I made the decals.
Also made the visor and hinges and the strap and fasteners.
The inside is upholstered with a material similar to suede and the bottom edge is textured like the original was... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09348.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09350.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09349.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09351.jpg

Merkava
11-02-2005, 12:54 PM
Cool! I like the glimmer of the pearl topcoat over the yellow. Very nice detailing job on an oft-forgotten piece.

willimo
11-02-2005, 01:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/WOAH.jpg

1986Z28
11-02-2005, 03:31 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: HOLY CRAP MAN omg thats truly amazing work, i truly cant believe it man

robrex
11-02-2005, 04:02 PM
Awesome helmet!

white97ex
11-02-2005, 05:01 PM
that helmet is sweet

Scale-Master
11-06-2005, 04:24 PM
Scratchbuilt the master from aluminum, polyester filler and sheet styrene, made a mold and cast them in resin.
The "upholstery" replicates wetsuit material, I have it in one of my real cars. Waterproof, breathes, wears well, great for exposed interior vehicles, and comes in all sorts of cool colors and patterns.
The harness guides were also mastered in aluminum and cast in resin.
The frames and slide levers are made from brass... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC09354.jpg

MPWR
11-06-2005, 04:47 PM
Another terrific thread that just I hadn't seen before now- makes me wonder how I missed it. What a fabulous build! Man, I need a rotary table!

white97ex
11-06-2005, 05:45 PM
*in best cartman voice* sweeeet

mickbench
11-06-2005, 06:14 PM
Haven't seen this thread before, and I'm not sure how I missed it.. Now I've read the entire thread, I wish I had missed it..

I can't match anything here.. I want to quit now.. Now I've seen what truly can be done, Robex was another one that makes at all look so real, but if it wasn't for the scale ruler in the picture I'd say you were just giving us pictures of the real part..


Stunning..!!

DrYzOne
11-07-2005, 06:16 AM
First time of seen this thread as well. Unbelievable detail, some of the best I've seen. Lovely work, inspiring indeed.

amusegt1
11-07-2005, 10:47 AM
U R So Damn Good!

gionc
11-08-2005, 04:12 AM
WOW. I discover that thread just yesterday: a great ref. for everybody: ubelieveable. I want a mill but I need a worker also :)

Dz!
11-10-2005, 02:13 PM
There is only one word amazing, great project, love seen model C20XE redtops....

Feint Motion
11-10-2005, 02:29 PM
Best Modeler ever!

Scale-Master
11-14-2005, 01:44 PM
Aircraft Style Fuel Filler
Yes, it opens and even has a detent so it latches closed and won't fall out.
The bolts are for mounting it. I made 10 even though it only needs 8, just in case... - Mark
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/Superb7/DSC093721.jpg

deedlit
11-14-2005, 02:06 PM
:eek2:

gionc
11-14-2005, 02:10 PM
:eek2:

:eek2::eek2:

675datsun
11-14-2005, 02:53 PM
Aircraft Style Fuel Filler
Yes, it opens and even has a detent so it latches closed and won't fall out.[/IMG]

Show us :smile:

rx7king
11-14-2005, 03:00 PM
i dont even know what to say to your work, your insane

Scale-Master
11-14-2005, 03:59 PM
"Show us"

A dare...? Sure, here you go... - Mark
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/Superb7/DSC093771.jpg

gionc
11-14-2005, 04:06 PM
i dont even know what to say to your work, your insane
:evillol::evillol: yes, he is
spechless, fabulous build-up, I'm stunned every day a little bit more:)

Alfa 147
11-14-2005, 04:07 PM
Holy crap! :screwy: :eek2:

cooltc2004
11-14-2005, 04:11 PM
ownage! Amazing!

Murray Kish
11-14-2005, 05:33 PM
I assume you built this amazing little thing with your lathe. When all of this stuff comes together it's going to be a really amazing work.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how did you cut out the 'inside' of the larger piece? It looks machined to fit the other piece perfectly. Can a lathe cut inside of a piece like that? How?

Sorry for the questions from the 'machining-challenged' section....

Murray

675datsun
11-14-2005, 05:49 PM
"Show us"

A dare...? Sure, here you go... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Blue%20Seven/DSC093771.jpg

No, not a dare, just for entertainment!!

The peices you create are just amazing...out of curiosity have you ever just misplaced one or lost one? I'm always flicking photoetched pieces around and I end up cursing as I search through the carpet floor!

Scale-Master
11-14-2005, 07:17 PM
"how did you cut out the 'inside' of the larger piece? It looks machined to fit the other piece perfectly. Can a lathe cut inside of a piece like that?"

Yes. With a boring tool. I cut the inside to the specs I wanted, then turned the plug to fit.

"out of curiosity have you ever just misplaced one or lost one?"

I wish it were only one. I have lost countless parts, both during machining, and by dropping them. I lost half of the clamp for neck of the nitrous bottle (coming soon...) I was making last Thursday, gave up looking and made a new set. I have lost one half of that new set three times, twice Friday and once this morning. Found it each time, but lost well over an hour total looking for it.
Now I make extra hardware often while I have it set up just in case... Hence the 10 bolts for the fuel filler when only 8 are needed.
Now I look for a bit, but not all that hard unless it's something large enough that I have a chance of finding, or something that would take a while to remake... - Mark

white97ex
11-15-2005, 07:52 AM
simply amazing.

MPWR
11-15-2005, 08:24 AM
Wow, bolts a 1/16th long, eh? What diameter are they? Did you thread them, or are they press/glue fit? Did you put a hex head on each?

How does the latch work?

jdmaccordian
11-15-2005, 11:28 AM
The ruler is actually 12 feet long.

Utterly humbling craftsmanship here.

Scale-Master
11-15-2005, 11:41 AM
Wow, bolts a 1/16th long, eh? What diameter are they? Did you thread them, or are they press/glue fit? Did you put a hex head on each?

Yes, I cut hex heads into each of them. The ones that hold the fuel filler in are 0.025 diameter heads with 0.014 diameter shanks. (Inches)
I would call the threaded part on these tiny ones spiral striations more than actual threads, they look a lot like threads, but have little strength so I cement them or just use the friction of appropriately sized holes.

How does the latch work?

Just a friction detent. The lever does not open the lock if that's what you're asking, I'm not crazy.... - Mark

Scale-Master
11-15-2005, 11:44 AM
NOS Bottle Mount in "Trunk"
With the top of the fuel tank too. The filler was posted earlier and is now installed. (Still opens and I didn't even lose a bolt.) The fuel gauge sender is to the right of it.
The clamp for the nitrous bottle works, for now...
There is also a grommet to run the lines through (later...)
Carbon Fiber decals are Scale Motorsport. The "trunk" panels are done with the new Hi Def C/F. I like them, and they are easy to handle... - Mark
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/Superb7/DSC093671.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/Superb7/DSC093761.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/Superb7/DSC09397.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/Superb7/DSC09396.jpg

Scale-Master
11-15-2005, 11:58 AM
The ruler is actually 12 feet long.

OK, I admit it... Here's my secret. But it's only 6 feet long... Thanks to Steve Boutte for the Photoshop work... - Mark
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Scale-Master/Scale-Master%20Models/da-truth.jpg

willimo
11-15-2005, 12:02 PM
HAHAHA! We knew it!!

Murray Kish
11-15-2005, 02:04 PM
Aha!!! I knew it!!!

You've been messing with us all along!!!

Very impressive work. Clearly you have patience and vision beyond anything I could imagine....

Murray

alphalanos
11-15-2005, 02:09 PM
:grinno:

GvEman
11-15-2005, 04:42 PM
Awesome work man!

Dz!
11-18-2005, 07:18 AM
Amazing.

white97ex
11-18-2005, 07:51 AM
great work....love the photoshop...nice humor!!

Scale-Master
11-21-2005, 12:06 PM
Started this sub-assembly well over a year ago, but had to wait for part of the fuel system to be built before I could finish it. (It's shown upside down.) At least twenty additional scratchbuilt/machined parts, plus the kit's two, and they were textured to simulate a cast finish. The block with the fittings is the fuel log for both sides of the tank and feeds two fuel systems, one for the Weber F.I., and one for the nitrous... - Mark
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/DoctorJones/f2202379.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/DoctorJones/a59c60da.jpg

675datsun
11-21-2005, 12:19 PM
Not that your work isn't incredible...but since it's so stunning and real...why do they mount the fuel log on the diff? Wouldn't that heat up the fuel?

Magliano
11-21-2005, 12:38 PM
WOW!!

You don't stop, every days theres a new part...
In the end you will turn the key and the model will go away!!! hehehehe

Are you a leprechaun? hahahaha

Amazing job! Unbelievable!!

Magliano

Scale-Master
11-21-2005, 01:21 PM
why do they mount the fuel log on the diff? Wouldn't that heat up the fuel?

"They" don't. Seven's don't normally have nitrous. That would be crazy...
The pumpkin on them is much like a Vette with IRS, in that it is frame mounted and stationary. The fuel tank is a saddle affair on this one. To get the fuel out without a siphon the fittings are mounted low, hence the necessity of the fuel log.
The fuel log is not attached directly to the casting, rather it is on a C/F bracket with an insulated mount.
Heat rises and there is air flow across the bottom of the car. There is also plenty of clearance between it and the ground.
From that block the fuel goes rearward to the pumps and back up and forward to the motor.
I have spent a lot of time (probably too much for "just a model") researching this unique application. A friend at Edelbrock also helped... - Mark

675datsun
11-21-2005, 01:29 PM
"The fuel log is not attached directly to the casting, rather it is on a C/F bracket with an insulated mount.
Heat rises and there is air flow across the bottom of the car. There is also plenty of clearance between it and the ground.



Gotcha! I understand now...I can't wait to do the tech inspection on this before it hits the track :smile:

tonioseven
11-21-2005, 02:20 PM
Mark, This is the umpteenth time I've studied this thread and I find something new each time!! Your work is beyond words! I would also lik eto thank you for sharing the processes that you use to create these masterpieces. Take care and keep us posted!! :sunglasse :sunglasse :sunglasse

MidMazar
11-21-2005, 02:44 PM
wow im speechless, this long thread will be studied by me.

D_LaMz
11-21-2005, 03:11 PM
wow great work, can't believe I missed this!

ATMDC
11-22-2005, 12:49 AM
well ladies and gentlemen i think that i can clearly speak for all of us in saying that this is the happiest model car around lol

Scale-Master
11-23-2005, 10:31 AM
Well, I have exceeded my allocated bandwidth for my photohost site. The pictures will be back up in less than two weeks... - Mark

Scale-Master
11-23-2005, 10:42 AM
But in the mean time...

The license plate and frame is another 100% scratchbuilt part.
(This is actually the second plate, the first wasn't good enough after spending way too much time on it. Don't you hate when that happens?)
Yes, the letters are raised and the tags are correct, at least they will be by the time I get it done, and it's reflectorized.
Fortunately my truck gets registered in January, so I was able to register it early to find out what color the 2007 tags would be.
July, 07= 7/7, get it?... - Mark
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/DoctorJones/DSC09405L.jpg

1986Z28
11-23-2005, 01:53 PM
wow.. im amazed nice liscense plate

Ran
11-23-2005, 03:52 PM
That's fantastic detail you've got right there! Your parts are truly amazing.

pettercardoso
11-23-2005, 03:59 PM
Mark, may I ask you how you made the raised letters?

Scale-Master
11-23-2005, 05:08 PM
Thanks everyone.

Mark, may I ask you how you made the raised letters?

Sure thing Petter... I hand cut the individual letters from adhesive tape, (twice! One layer turned out not to be enough) and after "sticking" them on the plate I used layers of paint to create the fillets around each letter and give the look of stamped characters... - Mark

robrex
11-23-2005, 05:36 PM
Thanks everyone.



Sure thing Petter... I hand cut the individual letters from adhesive tape, (twice! One layer turned out not to be enough) and after "sticking" them on the plate I used layers of paint to create the fillets around each letter and give the look of stamped characters... - Mark

You Sir, are insane! and I thought I was a detail fanatic!!!

I have the utmost respect for your talents! Well done!

Scale-Master
11-28-2005, 10:52 AM
What I was able to accomplish over the Thanksgiving weekend...
I made the taillights, (out of aluminum and acrylic), and the welting for the rear fenders, (out of brass, soldered together). Shown is the set for the left side.
Since the photo was taken I have primed the welting and fender and also made the reflectors and bulbs for the taillights...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/DoctorJones/DSC09437.jpg

WasteGas
11-28-2005, 11:06 AM
Not human I tell ya!!!

white97ex
11-28-2005, 11:20 AM
amazing work.....overall, how far along on the project are you?

Scale-Master
11-28-2005, 11:28 AM
That's hard to say, but I haven't reached the half way point yet... - Mark

Scale-Master
11-28-2005, 12:21 PM
Oh yeah, I also made this over the weekend...
The shifter and console. The mechanicals are alumnum and the C/F is Scale Motorsports over styrene... - Mark
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/DoctorJones/DSC09443.jpg

willimo
11-28-2005, 12:24 PM
Wow.

MPWR
11-28-2005, 12:27 PM
I guess that must be one of those 'short throw' shifters.... :rolleyes:

Scale-Master
11-28-2005, 01:13 PM
I guess that must be one of those 'short throw' shifters

Why yes, it is. Thanks for noticing... - Mark

675datsun
11-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Did you guys see this one already? Open link below, click on the multimedia Lotus 7 gymkhana http://www.datsun510.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=6813&sort=1&size=medium&cat=501

I thought of Scale-Master when I saw this!

Scale-Master
11-28-2005, 01:58 PM
Wow, that's cool. A bit different than drifting. Nimble little sucker... - Mark

Apexi_N1
11-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Forget... reading this thread makes all my work seems like a child play ;)

Stunning, absolutely perfect!

Legolas PT
01-04-2006, 01:34 PM
you are really the master...

nvusgt
01-04-2006, 05:43 PM
i don't know what i can say that hasn't already been said, specially after 15pgs of immaculate work.

its simply unreal, you have some serious talent. Very nice job!!

oh and that vid is sick

Cold_Fire
07-25-2006, 05:26 PM
This must be insane :O

nugundam93
07-25-2006, 06:07 PM
i still can't believe this isn't 1:1 with the great detail. :D

erb
07-29-2006, 12:52 AM
Did you guys see this one already? Open link below, click on the multimedia Lotus 7 gymkhana http://www.datsun510.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=6813&sort=1&size=medium&cat=501

I thought of Scale-Master when I saw this!
Stupid question but is that what your car is gonna look like?

Scale-Master
07-29-2006, 11:05 AM
Stupid question but is that what your car is gonna look like?

Similar... - Mark

Risko
07-29-2006, 01:13 PM
Wow, if someone can call himself Scale-Mater, than itīs you!

Really amazing work:eek2::worshippy, I canīt stop be astonished!

cinqster
07-29-2006, 01:58 PM
Move over Wingrove! Simply astonishing.:eek::licka:

erb
07-29-2006, 04:38 PM
Ok thanks and yet again amazing work.

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