This weekend I once again spent 8 total hours on the highway. The only "race" if you can call it worth mentioning was against the SRT-4.

I drove in a pack with a newer Audi A6, dodge avenger, me and the SRT-4 behind me. We hit a little bit of traffic and once it cleared up, the neon went into the far right lane to pass someone (3 lanes). I knew he was gonna go, so I just got behind him. He was in his early to mid 20s. When he gunned it at about 90, he got a little jump start but once I hit it we kept pretty much even. I just followed him, passing the Audi and avenger. The audi didn't try to keep up but the avenger did. All this time I was behind the SRT4 and he wasn't gaining one bit. I shifted into 4th at 110 and I was still keeping up. Now, 4th and 5th are by far slow ass gears in my car. When you go from 3, which is the best to 4, it feels almost like a 2-4 shift. Suprisngly, he only managed to pull a carlength up to 140 - then I slowed down and the avenger wasn't anywhere in sight. The SRT4 guy took the next exit. I wanted to run him from about 50 but I didn't get a chance. I was pretty happy losing by just a carlength considering I was in 4th most of the time.

I slowed back down to about 80 and a few minutes later the avenger passed me.

Now, I know they're quick and their whp is underrated, but could someone tell me what these SRT4s trap? He didn't seem quite as fast as I thought they are. I'm pretty sure that they are faster off the line because of how heavy my car is, but what do they trap?

dont know hahahhahahah

03's trap at 100mph, the 04's trap as high as 103mph.

well those srt4's are supposed to be beasts off the launch with their AWD system, so its not that big a surprise that it wasn't as much as you expected coz you ran from a roll. Wish i could get the chance to race an SRT :iceslolan

SRT-4s are AWD? I was under the impresion that they were FWD or RWD, and the EVOs and STis were the AWDs...

i have heard good things about srt4's but never had a chance to race one and thats typically how i judge cars

I'm pretty sure they're fwd. I hate the stock spoilers they put on them. I thought they trapped higher than that.

but are they about the equivalent of sti's?

Srt4s are FWD, and their launches take time to get good at...by far not an easy car to launch.

I believe sti's are faster in the 1/4, however the sti's gearing isn't great after 100, that paired with the AWD, will probably give the srt4 the advantage in top end.

Anyway...good run Type-S

cant think of anything right now that isnt flaming, dam

cant think of anything right now that isnt flaming, dam

Thats how I feel. The STI is a much better car then a srt-4. The STI is AWD, the SRT4 is FWD. The STI wins off a launch due to AWD, and it has higher horsepower to compensate for it's top end AWD disadvantage. If someone offers you a free STI or SRT4, take the SRT, cause I got dibz on the STI.

and i think sti's look cooler

Ya the SRT's are FWD and torque steer is horrible, I seen them at the track a few weeks ago. Not to bad though in sport compact car magazine they have the lightweight version with the stage 3 turbo upgrade and turbo toys and it runs 11-12's if I remeber right. If you get a bigger aftermarket turbo theres even more power then the stage3, but ya the STi is definetly better with AWD, more power, better handling.

Thats how I feel. The STI is a much better car then a srt-4. The STI is AWD, the SRT4 is FWD. The STI wins off a launch due to AWD, and it has higher horsepower to compensate for it's top end AWD disadvantage. If someone offers you a free STI or SRT4, take the SRT, cause I got dibz on the STI.


well i would hope the STI would be better since it costs over a 1/3 more. However the SRT4 engine seems to be taking to mods far better than the open deck STI. The STI guys were severily embarrased by the evos at their last major showndown because they just could not make enough power.



Ya the SRT's are FWD and torque steer is horrible, I seen them at the track a few weeks ago. Not to bad though in sport compact car magazine they have the lightweight version with the stage 3 turbo upgrade and turbo toys and it runs 11-12's if I remeber right. If you get a bigger aftermarket turbo theres even more power then the stage3, but ya the STi is definetly better with AWD, more power, better handling.

The SRT4 have been praised by every single review for their lack of torque steer. They are given often as an example that a high power FWD car can be made without major TS.

Maybe you were thinking wheel hop.

they weren't complaining about tq steer but more about how the steering wheel stays locked in the turning direction when you bury the throttle in mid corner. you can let off the steering wheel completely and the wheel will stay locked. also when you start making crazy power like the factory hot rod version ( 350whp ) the car understeers like a biatch and its very very scary to drive on a race track hard. you ahve to be real easy on the throttle on corner exits, so it won't spin its tires and plow forward.

:iamwithst:

i think the srt-4 needs quicker steering. its torque steer wasnt all that bad(i drove the 04), not as bad as the 97 3000gt sl ive driven, which was probably lacking an lsd.

nice race by the way.

sh*t sorry for the ignorance people. I was under the impression that the srt4 was AWD coz its always compared to the evos and sti's. My only excuse is that we don't have srt4's in this country and i've never seen one so sorry for posting it was an AWD :p my bad :p

racing that fast in traffic is incredibly stupid, please stop before you kill somebody.

racing that fast in traffic is incredibly stupid, please stop before you kill somebody.

Shutup kid :screwy: Who said there was traffic? I said once the road cleared up then we went at it. Learn how to read.

shame on you racing in traffic, you sick demented bastard

p.s. nice kill

shame on you racing in traffic, you sick demented bastard

p.s. nice kill


Your sad attemp at sarcasm, does not excuse the fact that you put people in danger while you tried to chase some bimbo, and then you even showed a severe lack of decency by bragging that you swerved in and out of traffic.

Edit*had to edit out what i actually wanted to say


anyway bragging???? i was simply telling a story

Your sad attemp at sarcasm, does not excuse the fact that you put people in danger while you tried to chase some bimbo, and then you even showed a severe lack of decency by bragging that you swerved in and out of traffic.


Are you talking about me? :eek7: So now, who exactly put people in danger on an empty highway? If doing a run on an empty highway is so bad, why does this forum exist? And lastly, who bragged about swerving in and out of traffic? Didn't see anything about it in this thread. Keep it on topic son.

he was talking to me and my cobra girl, anyway iu think hes just got somethin stuck up his ass he comes to the street racing forums and rags on people for street racing

Are you talking about me? :eek7: So now, who exactly put people in danger on an empty highway? If doing a run on an empty highway is so bad, why does this forum exist? And lastly, who bragged about swerving in and out of traffic? Didn't see anything about it in this thread. Keep it on topic son.


this has nothing to do with your post. That is why i quoted allthrottlenobottl to make it clear it was directed at him.


he was talking to me and my cobra girl, anyway iu think hes just got somethin stuck up his ass he comes to the street racing forums and rags on people for street racing


excuse me, i've been on this forum for several years so please keep you comments to yourself mister "i signed up this month". You don't know anything about my posting history.

The only times times I call people out for street racing is when they endanger inocent people like you and them come here and brag about it.

in my opinion i didnt endanger any innocent people, also you werent there so how would you know

in my opinion i didnt endanger any innocent people, also you werent there so how would you know


You claimed yourself that you were swerving in and out of traffic. That traffic was made out of inocent drivers therefore you endagered them. And i find it sad that you still don't even realise what you did was dangerous.

There is no such thing as safe swerving in and out of traffic.

Neutrino...Hes from Dallas. They dont think with a full brain there. Ya gotta take it easy on those Dallas types.

so your saying calculated changing lanes is unsafe, hmmmmm there is no such thing as safe driving then, i mean im pretty sure anyone who has ever drove has changed lanes. what your saying is you can walk out your front door and a airplane can fall on your head, walking out your front door isnt safe then and oyu shouldnt do it. just what iffffss

cassie im from north of dallas

so your saying calculated changing lanes is unsafe, hmmmmm there is no such thing as safe driving then, i mean im pretty sure anyone who has ever drove has changed lanes. what your saying is you can walk out your front door and a airplane can fall on your head, walking out your front door isnt safe then and oyu shouldnt do it. just what iffffss



I seriously hope that in real life you are not this obtuse.:disappoin So let me explain it in simple terms: there is a huge difference between changing lanes slowly and safely using your signal versus racing and swerving in and out of traffic.

cassie im from north of dallas

Its all the same. If your not from the CVG or Ft. Worth, your from Dallas.

i never said we were racing changing lanes!!!! read the post!

Its all the same. If your not from the CVG or Ft. Worth, your from Dallas.


what the hell is cvg??????????????????// im from flowermound right south of denton and west of lewisville

i never said we were racing changing lanes!!!! read the post!

oh really

once i get on main street she shoots a gap and flys around me, intriguied i shoot the gap and get on her ass. we are swerving through traffic for about five miles trying to get ahead of each other,

really because I could swear that the definition of racing is reaching a point faster/ahead of other cars as you posted and you claim to swerve trough traffic to acheive that.


So you lie too.

ahh politics come into play, just like kerry taking stuff outta context

---->there is pretty heavy traffic on main street so we dont really have a chance to race<----. but once i get on main street she shoots a gap and flys around me, intriguied i shoot the gap and get on her ass. we are swerving through traffic for about five miles trying to get ahead of each other

tryin to get ahead of each other playing and sorry i dont know how to bold so i just put arrows around it

really because trying to get ahead of each other is not racing? Poor guys in nascar and formula one had it all wrong all this time.

Seriously how obtuse are you. :disappoin

Seriously how obtuse are you. :disappoin

hehe very, um i consider racing going all out trying to get ahead of each other, neither of us was going all out


*edit define obtuse, isnt it a type of triangle lol?

hehe very, um i consider racing going all out trying to get ahead of each other, neither of us was going all out


*edit define obtuse, isnt it a type of triangle lol?


Check your PMs

hello my name is allthrotlenobottl and im a flameaholic....

serioulsy just because your a mod doesnt mean you can make your opinions mine, or vice versa

see the thing is.... i only get on at school and i stay in one classroom all day with over 30 computers at my disposal so i am pretty much unbanable.....

i am not trying to flame anyone i am simply stating my opinions, and if u take offense to that its your problem

see the thing is.... i only get on at school and i stay in one classroom all day with over 30 computers at my disposal so i am pretty much unbanable.....

i am not trying to flame anyone i am simply stating my opinions, and if u take offense to that its your problem


I'm not sure about that. All they have to do is ban your server moron. I'm gonna laugh so hard and talk shit about you and you won't be able to do anything about it you :loser:

hehe ill be glad if they do something illegal then my school willl sue them, also i have 2 comps at home and if i choose too i could use those

so let's see, banning your server isn't illegal, they just don't let you use their website which is absolutely legal.

So since you have 2 comps at home, they'll ban your home ip address and that's the end of you. I'd listen to them before all that happens.

seriously i dont really care that much if i can get on here or not but it gonna be a big pain in the ass for them to ban me,......o and here is why i was banned


hello my name is allthrotlenobottl and im a flameaholic....

serioulsy just because your a mod doesnt mean you can make your opinions mine, or vice versa"


sorry but thats some :bs:

do you seriously not hasve anything better to do with yuor time then fight on the net??? :rolleyes:

thats pretty sad man, i truly pity you. heres an idea, go out and make some friends, after al, you're at school as you said so go out and try and find someone else to pester for 5 minutes instead of annoying everyone on the forums and hijacking other people threads.

do you seriously not hasve anything better to do with yuor time then fight on the net??? :rolleyes:



lets see here my posts =280 urs = 680 hmmmm........
im not trying to fight with anyone, i was just defending my actions, neutrino cant critisize me for a situation when he wasnt even there jsut because he is a mod

i can partially agree to what you're saying and all but you shouldn't have gone on the offense as soon as the first criticism was made. instead of arguing you should have calmed down and thought rationally. ......put it this way my friend, if you had had an accident while racing and a baby got killed, could you live with yourself and forgive yourself after that? who knows, maybe you could, but I personally and i'm sure most others here couldn't so thats all we were trying to get through to you when we made those comments about racing on a crowded road.

He wasn't banned for his argument with Neutrino, he was banned for a whole list of things that he is well aware of...he had more than enough warnings, so just ignore him.

i can partially agree to what you're saying and all but you shouldn't have gone on the offense as soon as the first criticism was made. instead of arguing you should have calmed down and thought rationally. ......put it this way my friend, if you had had an accident while racing and a baby got killed, could you live with yourself and forgive yourself after that? who knows, maybe you could, but I personally and i'm sure most others here couldn't so thats all we were trying to get through to you when we made those comments about racing on a crowded road.

see your a perfect member on this forum you can see both sides of the situation, sometimes i just tend to write what i think without thinking about what others will think about it. simply nuetrino is bigheaded, and if other mods dont have a problem with me i dont see why he does, i think it is bc i owned him on a previous thread about my driving expreince.
i trust myself enough to know my limits and if i got in a accident where someone was killed i dont know if i could live with myslef but i truly beleive that i was in a situation that was not very dangerous and under control.

He wasn't banned for his argument with Neutrino, he was banned for a whole list of things that he is well aware of...he had more than enough warnings, so just ignore him.

oh and i was banned for trying to make humorous comments in various situations that werent always relevant to the topic, which is in no way against the rules

oh and i was banned for trying to make humorous comments in various situations that werent always relevant to the topic, which is in no way against the rules
No, humor is not against the rules, returning with a new screen name after being banned is though.

Bye-bye.

Please tell me that he's gone forever?

btw, Nice race

Wow, don't mean to but in, but this is my first witnessing to a banning. Welp, helps me to know what not to do. Yeah, btw nice race too. K' I'll step out now. Late...

see the thing is.... i only get on at school and i stay in one classroom all day with over 30 computers at my disposal so i am pretty much unbanable.....

i am not trying to flame anyone i am simply stating my opinions, and if u take offense to that its your problem


You do realise that when you log in at school all your activities are logged.

And I hope you do realise that the same goes for your ISP.

So guess what will happen if your abuse and breach of guidelines is reported to your school's IT manager and your ISP.

Understand that mister "Winfree Academy Charter School (Lewisville)"
http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/browse_school/tx/9509/

or how do you think at&t feel about your schoo letting its student abuse the net. AT&T which happens to be your school's isp.


Fact is you were warned by several mods, and when you received the ultimatum you choose to ignore it.

Wow, didn't know my race with the SRT would be this popular :lol2:

Omg he goes to a charter school that explaines alot, now I went to one for middle school when they were new and I can tell you thats where the public schools send all the messed up/hyper kids (I was the latter at the time). Even if he went in a normal kid it'd probably mess him up a little. Anyways back on topic, I hear they're making a 500BHP SRT don't think many people here would stand a chance against that.

When I go home, I'll take the time to go out of my way to Lewisville and steal his car if ya'll want me to...

i have the video of the 500 hp SRT bein dynoed and then racin a taurus from a 30 mph roll...lmao

You do realise that when you log in at school all your activities are logged.

And I hope you do realise that the same goes for your ISP.

So guess what will happen if your abuse and breach of guidelines is reported to your school's IT manager and your ISP.

Understand that mister "Winfree Academy Charter School (Lewisville)"
http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/browse_school/tx/9509/

or how do you think at&t feel about your schoo letting its student abuse the net. AT&T which happens to be your school's isp.


Fact is you were warned by several mods, and when you received the ultimatum you choose to ignore it.

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/9436/owned23.jpg

o ya...nice race S :thumbsup:

i have the video of the 500 hp SRT bein dynoed and then racin a taurus from a 30 mph roll...lmao
Got a link? I hear theres a V8 IS300 called like the IS420 or something, crazy toyota.

500 HP SRT4 (http://www.turbochargers.com/forumuploads/500hp.wmv)

i actually have it saved on my computer and it doesn't skip at all...if ur annoyed by the skipping, does anyone know how to upload a video offa my computer onto here?

That poor taurus...nice vid

Lol I love how the taurus takes off early, and then just watches that srt fly by. That vid gives me a whole new respect for srt-4s, at least ones with 500hp.

refer to the pic in my previous post for my reaction to that vid

You do realise that when you log in at school all your activities are logged.

And I hope you do realise that the same goes for your ISP.

So guess what will happen if your abuse and breach of guidelines is reported to your school's IT manager and your ISP.

Understand that mister "Winfree Academy Charter School (Lewisville)"

or how do you think at&t feel about your schoo letting its student abuse the net. AT&T which happens to be your school's isp.


Fact is you were warned by several mods, and when you received the ultimatum you choose to ignore it.

oh shit what am i to do? i might get a slap on the wrist for some comments made on a forum by the principal bc i got in a fight with a mod on the internet,gosh theyll be just pissed finding out how i said that you were wrong and i was right.(anyway people dotn care what we do online at my school)!!!!...no... at&t will probably just drop some big client doing several thousands of dollars of business with them bc some nerd on a forum didnt like me nooooo!!! you must weild some real power being a mod on a random forum on the internet!!!!!!!!!!!! basically lets face the facts here "mister" i haven't made any racial comments or blantly attacked anyone else on this forum and even if i had it wouldnt matter anyway. so no matter what you know about me it doesnt matter
so i dont give a fuck if you know what i had for breakfast

and just so you know its illegal to use someone elses isp number for personal reasons like you just did.

neutrino dude seriously just read this thread from start to finish and you'll see u only attacked me and i only defended myself.....

im outty peace!

Bypassing ban, twice?

Goodbye sucka.

I didn't mind him... but the crowd had spoken and your not welcome here anymore.

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ, kid. Go find a hobby or read a book or play a video game or lie down on some railroad tracks. Just get the hell off AF.

lol yea i feel pretty bad for that taurus too...i think you can actually hear the SRT break loose a lil once boost kicks in...either that or its just the turbo bein that damn loud...lol

Well good race those srt-4s are quick!!!

I didn't like bottle from the moment he got on here. Ya, I haven't been on for much longer, but I'm not a total assbag either. I can't believe he was using his post count against Zwrangler either. When does post count dictate how cool you are? Anyway, I'm glad you guys banned his ass.

As for the SRT-4, nice race TypeS. Saying that you have beaten an SRT-4 is quite an accomplishment. They are supposed to be pretty quick.

Nice vid of the 500hp SRT-4 as well.

my impression was that he just kept up with the SRT-4....but hey, thats quite an accomplishment in any regard. I'm thinking that TypeS's car isnt stock from the story, but i could be wrong...?

Yeah, I wouldn't call it a win. I was just suprised that I kept up in 4th gear. I don't know about SRT-4's gearing, but 4th in my car is as bad as it gets. That's why I wanted to race him at lower speeds to see if I could take him but he took the next exit.

I have a Comptech Icebox, headers, UR pulley, H&R Springs and struts.

With the mods you got on, its pretty much a drivers race tilted towards the SRT-4 as the fav.....but i really would like to see it :biggrin: . SRT-4's take my car by two car lengths or so, they are quick.

Understand that mister "Winfree Academy Charter School (Lewisville)"
http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/browse_school/tx/9509/

or how do you think at&t feel about your schoo letting its student abuse the net. AT&T which happens to be your school's isp.

First off, I have to say that was one hell of a cool trick.

Anyways, I got into it with an SRT a little while ago. (nothing serious, from a roll and only about 500 feet, then we both hit a red light and we played nice after that). I have to say, they sound cool as hell when the turbo spools.

With that link it's no wonder hes such a dumbass. Look at all the percentages of the classes taking and failing subjects, thats horrible.

Nice race bro, my friend Chris got his orange srt-4 about a month ago. I know its orange, but suprisingly looks really nice. I raced him at my summer work place, its about a half mile 4 lane strip thats closed off, so no worries about traffic. Well needless to say with me driving the elantra and him in the srt he blew me the fuck away haha, sooo cool tho