Best early 90's turbo sleeper!


kman10587
10-21-2004, 08:16 PM
Which one of these turbocharged cars from the early 90's do you think makes the best sleeper? And yes, I realize that the Supra, 300ZX, and AWD DSM would smoke any of these, but those are hardly sleepers :)

clawhammer
10-21-2004, 08:21 PM
There's also the MR2

kman10587
10-21-2004, 08:23 PM
I don't really think that's much of a sleeper. The cars here, almost no one has ever heard of, or almost no one knew they were turbo.

Nerf
10-21-2004, 08:35 PM
In the spirit of stupid replies, a 5.0! Seriously though, the Le Barons were kick-ass and I'd love to see one smoke a riced out civic. I'd especially love to see the "Wait.. I'm losing wtf! I NEED MORE 'SPONSOR' STICKERS FOR MORE HP!!" look on the civic driver's face as he's getting smoked :)

kman10587
10-21-2004, 08:35 PM
Damnit Paul, get out of my thread :P

Polygon
10-21-2004, 10:14 PM
You know what has my vote. :icon16:

kman10587
10-21-2004, 11:29 PM
I should hope so :)

I voted for the Impulse, because NO ONE has ever heard of it. :)

dustrman03
10-22-2004, 12:19 AM
There's also the MR2

and the RX-7.

kman10587
10-22-2004, 01:36 AM
Read the title, people...."SLEEPERS". Cars no one has ever heard of. I think anyone who sees an RX-7 or MR2 is gonna know that it's a fast car.

Nerf
10-22-2004, 01:50 AM
SLEEPER (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_%28car%29), people. damn. :banghead:

Jimster
10-22-2004, 02:14 AM
Not the Impulse, they handle like dog shit, I remember being scared shitless by a mates Piazza Turbo once (Same car as Impulse) only seemed to want to go in a straight line, same thing with the MX6.

Where I was from, the VR4 was by no means an unknown quantity, so not that either.



So the Dodge, or a Lancia Delta HF Turbo.

kman10587
10-22-2004, 02:20 AM
Heh, the Galant VR-4 never really did too well in America...for whatever reason, we abhor the idea of mixing sedans with performance. Goddamn image-consciousness. :/

Moppie@af
10-22-2004, 02:28 AM
Not the Impulse, they handle like dog shit,

The pizza was a product of the 80s, the 90s Impulse was a small 4dr with AWD with a 1600 twin cam Turbo (same engine that Lotus used in the Elan).

Very underated little cars.


However the VR4 Gallant has to be the best sleeper in the list, especialy the later Twin Turbo V6 versions, and espcialy since in Japan you could order any body style with any engine spec and trim level.
Here in NZ there are LOTS of 1.8l VR-G gallants that look VR4s, and Iv even seen VR4s with VR-G bumbers and side skirts.

kman10587
10-22-2004, 02:48 AM
We never got a V6 TT Galant VR-4 here, we only got the 4G63-powered Galant in '91 and '92. :(

dustrman03
10-22-2004, 02:58 AM
Read the title, people...."SLEEPERS". Cars no one has ever heard of. I think anyone who sees an RX-7 or MR2 is gonna know that it's a fast car.

we're not blind...we were just stating...

kman10587
10-22-2004, 02:59 AM
Just stating what? I didn't forget the MR2 or the RX-7, I didn't put them in because they're not sleepers.

dustrman03
10-22-2004, 03:03 AM
you said in your very first post other cars that would smoke them and are obviously not sleepers...you said the supra, 300zx, awd dsm...then he said dont forget the MR2 and then i...after seeing his addon, i said and the RX-7...we were just adding more cars to your list of cars that obviously aren't sleepers...

drunken monkey
10-22-2004, 07:58 AM
lotus/vauxhall carlton.
still beats most things today.

NISSANSPDR
10-22-2004, 08:27 AM
A Lotus is a sleeper? Show me!

Jimster
10-22-2004, 08:30 AM
The pizza was a product of the 80s, the 90s Impulse was a small 4dr with AWD with a 1600 twin cam Turbo (same engine that Lotus used in the Elan).

Very underated little cars.


However the VR4 Gallant has to be the best sleeper in the list, especialy the later Twin Turbo V6 versions, and espcialy since in Japan you could order any body style with any engine spec and trim level.
Here in NZ there are LOTS of 1.8l VR-G gallants that look VR4s, and Iv even seen VR4s with VR-G bumbers and side skirts.
Fait dinkum, I remember seeing a picture of an Impulse and it looked the same as a Piazza. I was wondering what an 80's car was doing in a thread with the title 90's.

I'm still pretty sure the Piazza was badged as an Impulse in the 80's. Time for a fact-finding mission!

kman10587
10-22-2004, 10:34 AM
you said in your very first post other cars that would smoke them and are obviously not sleepers...you said the supra, 300zx, awd dsm...then he said dont forget the MR2 and then i...after seeing his addon, i said and the RX-7...we were just adding more cars to your list of cars that obviously aren't sleepers...

Oh, I figured he was saying that I should put the MR2 in the poll. My bad. :)

Fait dinkum, I remember seeing a picture of an Impulse and it looked the same as a Piazza. I was wondering what an 80's car was doing in a thread with the title 90's.

I'm still pretty sure the Piazza was badged as an Impulse in the 80's. Time for a fact-finding mission!

Well, the 80's Impulses here were 2.0 turbos, but they were RWD. Then, in 1991 and 1992, they made a 1.6 turbo, but it was AWD. I was talking about the latter. :)

drunken monkey
10-23-2004, 06:22 PM
lotus carlton

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/lotus/thumbnail_img_0_lotus_omega_0911.jpg

not the best picture but all i could find at the moment.
it's big, it's black, it has a little spoiler.
thats about it.

chevydrummer76
10-24-2004, 12:47 AM
the syclone/typhoon should be in there........fast sleepers right there

kman10587
10-24-2004, 01:05 AM
Yeah, I almost put the Typhoon in, but fast cars and fast trucks elicit different judgments, so I kept it all cars.

christophv
10-24-2004, 04:17 PM
http://www.omegaclub.hu/lot03.jpg

the Opel/Vauxhall Lotus Omega/Carlton :)

But Opel has such a bad reputation here, I'd rather go by bike.

What about the Nissan Pulsar/Sunny GTi-R?
http://weaky.free.fr/images/fiches/jp/nissan/Sunny_GTi-R_92.jpg
apart from that hood....

kman10587
10-24-2004, 04:21 PM
Oh, I'm from America, they don't have those cars here...

drunken monkey
10-24-2004, 06:37 PM
well, lotus did quite a bit of work on it
and if it has a bad rep, then that's a +1 on the stealth radar, right?

drdisque
10-24-2004, 06:45 PM
what about the Merkur XR4Ti?

ghetto7o2azn
10-24-2004, 07:17 PM
how about the celica gt4/alltrac that was always a pretty good sleeper imo since most people cant tell the difference from an early 90 all trac from an early 90 st

Twyzz
10-25-2004, 08:57 AM
some of the impusles had lotus tuned susepnsions, so I'd suspect they handle rather well. Add the dodge Shadow to the list. And the turbo mitsubishi colt. It came with a 1.6 turbo I think but you can drop a 4g63 right into it

christophv
10-25-2004, 03:00 PM
and if it has a bad rep, then that's a +1 on the stealth radar, right?

not what I was trying to say, Opel is the #1 hate-brand, all the ugly poor white trash loser farmers (there's no right english word I know for them...) are driving those fart-can 1.3-1.6l Opel here.

hm hard to explain, they're not quite ricers, they're like ricer-wannabes :banghead:

anyways, I'd sell my Lotus Omega and get a real Lotus for it :D

kman10587
10-25-2004, 04:56 PM
some of the impusles had lotus tuned susepnsions, so I'd suspect they handle rather well. Add the dodge Shadow to the list. And the turbo mitsubishi colt. It came with a 1.6 turbo I think but you can drop a 4g63 right into it

I didn't want to list more than one turbo Mopar, and I listed the GTC because it's a luxury grandma car :)

drunken monkey
10-25-2004, 05:23 PM
.....well, the lotus carlton isn't quite like any other opel/vauxhall.

like i said, lotus did more than just a little work on it.
so much so that it is always refered to as the lotus carlton/omega.
opel/vauxhall have very little to do with it otehr than supplying the basic car to lotus.

anyway.

Polygon
10-25-2004, 05:40 PM
I didn't want to list more than one turbo Mopar, and I listed the GTC because it's a luxury grandma car :)

Ouch, the GTC was a great sleeper, but hey they weren't grandma cars, those were the K-body LeBarons not the J-body. :)

K-Body:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/572000-572999/572866_1_full.jpg

J-Body:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/220000-220999/220444_14_full.jpg

AS for the rest of you, what is so damn hard about sticking to what is on the poll!? If you don't like the poll, make your own damn poll. These are the cars that kman is interested in, so stop arguing about what you think should be on the poll.

kman10587
10-28-2004, 10:03 PM
Actually, I wasn't making this poll to decide what car I should get, this was just for fun. I'd more than likely pick up any of these if I found one for a decent price.

kfoote
10-29-2004, 09:40 AM
My vote, as alwats, goes to a car that's such a sleeeper it's not listed: Dodge Omni GLHS.

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