could any one tell me how to make afterbutners or at least a website where i can get pics and directions on how to make then. i would be very greatful if anyone got back to me.thanks

What the hell are afterburners? Like the ones on fighter jets?

what?!? after burners? why do you need them? do you have a jet?

hopefully you do figure out how to make them so that you do it and then it blows the fuck up on your ass. that way you will never be able to reproduce.

fucking a.

This guy has got to be joking. :lol2: That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. He must have seen "Rock Star" and saw the Batmobile engage the afterburners. Afterburners = fantasy. And gay. :rofl: :grinno: :loser:

Maybe he means NOS, or backfire...or maybe he's just brain damaged.

:lol: :lol: To the batmobile!!! :lol:

the flamer probably wants an exhaust pipe that shoots flames


next he gonna get a flame shirt, and some flames on his car's paint

i bet he is thinking of flame thrower exhausts
well that the name i know, it eats your gas to make flames come from your exhaust tip, not a Miss-fire, backfires don't really make flames i dont believe, i also think its what they had in fast and the furious

or he could just be like that one dumbass who strap a jet engine to his car didnt design it properly so it lifted off and he died by get this CRASHING INTO THE SIDE OF A MOUNTAIN!!!!! LoL

Are You Talking About Converting A Turbo Into A Turbine Engine And Putting A Second Burn Cycle Like And After Burner?

Or Is That The New Jdm Tight Ricer Term For Flamerthrower/misfire Exhaust?

dude has watched to much fast and furious and wants to shoot flames like they do when they are lined up to race kids these days i tell you what you give em a inche and they take a mile all i can say is your a Flaming homosexual

You just wait and see. I'm going to put afterburners on my civic and it will be sooooo fast. I had better put a fire extinguisher on the a-pillar just in case. :icon16:

Dumb ass, curse that Fast and Furious movie.

I'm putting Jet engines in my car some day going to route intakes where the rear windows are. going to be bad ass. and if you want flames comeing out the back of your car just fill a ballon with like a pint of gasoline and cram it up you tail pipe it should work. *not responsible for any secondary affects*

i was racing one night, we all pulled over afterwards in a parking lot, and a bike told me I had the afterburners going cause my car was shooting 5 foot flames for like 10 seconds straight. R.W.240 can vouche for that, he was in the car that day.

I dont recall?






































:dunno:

yo mang! that thin got the flame throwar keet?

Here is a quick and fairly inexpensive way, tap a line from your fuel lines and route it to your exhaust, and also get a glow plug, and have this installed right after the fuel line openning, and voula, Flam thrower. Now do this after the game at your local middle school and you can have all the females you want............................................ sorry I meant Juves, cuz thats about all you will attract.

14.97 seconds on google:

http://www.autotoyaz.com/sinexflamthr.html


Don't really know why you'd want it though.

i forget who makes ignition fuel cut thinga a ma bob for redlineing on a downshift or what not. That blows out some flames and looks ok....it has a huge popping sound as well. Theres a pic somewhere of one of signals s13.5's blowing out a phatty flame drifting a corner its a nice pic. I cant find the kit though.....i swore it was on enjuku racing but i just looked and couldnt find it maybe i missed it dunno.

i forget who makes ignition fuel cut thinga a ma bob for redlineing on a downshift or what not. That blows out some flames and looks ok....it has a huge popping sound as well. Theres a pic somewhere of one of signals s13.5's blowing out a phatty flame drifting a corner its a nice pic. I cant find the kit though.....i swore it was on enjuku racing but i just looked and couldnt find it maybe i missed it dunno.
Bee*R

top gun > F.A.F

Chuki_breath

the thing i think you're talking about is the Bee*R misfiring unit, its a controller that allows you to shoot flames if you have a straight pipe and a loud popping sound if you have a cat still[maybe a small flame]

what it does i believe is opens the exhaust valve early or something so that a flame is release as combustion isnt fully completed yet, not completely sure on this though

but still i think the thread is about the flamethrowers on fast and furious

If it opens the exhaust valves early that means when there is ignition, there is no more pressure, less power, I doubt that's how they do it or the car would run extra crappy.

Here's how they do it...
a fuel line is tapped, and run to the tip of the exhaust. Right where it comes out, there is a sparkplug. When the ricer press the button, it opens the valve (NOT exhaust valve, its a valve set up on the line they tapped), and shoots out gas while at the same time firing the spark. The exhaust gas blows the flame away from the car.

Problem solved.

Yeah I've seen a lot of kits for it but my question would be why? If you really want to make your car shoot flames, do it the proper way without a spark plug in the exhaust.

Yeah I've seen a lot of kits for it but my question would be why? If you really want to make your car shoot flames, do it the proper way without a spark plug in the exhaust.


And what is the "proper way" to force a car to shoot flames out the exhaust?

Its not that complicated people.

The Bee*R unit is a rev limiter that cuts ignition instead of fuel. This allows the fuel just to run though the engine without lighting and is set off by the heat in the exhaust. they claim this is better than fuel cut because it cant cause the engine to run lean. (bore wash?)

you dont want your car to shoot 7ft flames because that means alot of fuel is just swirling around in the combustion chamber and the fuel can wash the oil off of the cylinder bores. that being said... Rotarys dont seem to have that big of a problem running obscenely rich.

What about just a little backfire, I don't need a 7 foot flame. How do you get just a little backfire?

it will backfire all the time stock when you decelerate. if you have an Exhaust it sounds like a popping noise. you wont get a flame untill you take off the cat and have a straight though exhaust.

those are really just puny little misfires that wont screw anything up. not really a flame though, they're usually only big enough to see a Glow or Flash in the exhaust can.

The proper way I believe is to make your engine run rich and some other part, I'm not positive but I know it has to do with turbos and running rich. I doubt F1 cars have spark plugs in the exhaust. But hey kcapp I'm sure you knew that right?

It's just I've seen an RX-7 in a video driving on the street and when he decelarated he had a little baby flame, like just a flash but it looked cool and the same happened to this guy's 86 at a drift event I went to yesterday. (BTW, I'll have pics up soon)

The proper way I believe is to make your engine run rich and some other part, I'm not positive but I know it has to do with turbos and running rich. I doubt F1 cars have spark plugs in the exhaust. But hey kcapp I'm sure you knew that right?


The reason F1 cars do it is that they're not running on gasoline. They're running on the equivalent of jet fuel, and because of this, their exhaust is ALOT hotter. This means that any gas that isnt burned just gets atomized and sent out thru the exhaust, where the actual heat of the exhaust gas ignites it.

Also it has nothing to do with turbos. Running rich with a turbo is a pretty dumb idea.

0wned? yes.

but still kcap u said what is the correct way, like you were mocking the kid!!!!! when there is a correct way other than a fucking spark plug in your exhaust i have numerous vids to show it.....ownd?...you decide. And like rw240 said thats what happens with the Bee R kit the hot exhaust makes the flame....somewhere there is a nice vid of a skyline showing how it works...so yea last time i checked a skyline wasnt a F1 car that runs jet fuel......so um yea its possible, also i have a vid of a supra racing on the highway that blows out a nice flame on the decel. Car was hella fast though he had to be pushing some major hp.

I would have to agree with you. I just saw an rx7 race an r1 on the freeway. They passed me at about 150mph-170mph, they flew by. On the decell the rx7 had flames coming out of the exhaust for like 10 seconds. It was at night so it was easy to see. Damn cool though. The rx7 was pretty cool too. You could tell the guy didn't mess around when it came to performance.

when I had just a straight pipe with no cat or muffler i could blow flames decelerating.

Just excess feul

rotary cars do it normaly as well

wait an rx7 verse a an r1 bike nice catch who was in lead? im thinking r1 but ya never no...iv seen a minivan beat a hyabussa. Minivan was obviously heavily moded. It was the old ass style with the woodgrain still on the side whahhaha complete sleeper. It was at the track.

Also it has nothing to do with turbos. Running rich with a turbo is a pretty dumb idea.




Yeah I mean who doesnt like Detonation. 14.7 4 l1f3!!!! w00t!1 :uhoh:


RedFC Held a 15 second one on saturday - damn rotary potatos. This months SCC Coleman blew off an IC pipe and the flames burned the shit out of his back bumper.

i want a car that can fly and shoot out 50 ft flames and i want a girl that loves to give blow jobs to come standard w/ my flying flamethrowing car

RedFC Held a 15 second one on saturday
:naughty:

nice red.....would it be possible to get a pic of that?

i really want a picture of it. It shoots flames all the time, ive had 6foot flames before easy

well this weekend or sometime have someone take one while following you and plz post it up, that would be nice.

The reason F1 cars do it is that they're not running on gasoline. They're running on the equivalent of jet fuel, and because of this, their exhaust is ALOT hotter. This means that any gas that isnt burned just gets atomized and sent out thru the exhaust, where the actual heat of the exhaust gas ignites it.

Also it has nothing to do with turbos. Running rich with a turbo is a pretty dumb idea.

0wned? yes.

Actually it's not limited to F1 cars I was just giving you an example which you were more likely to see on T.V. to show that they don't have spark plugs in the exhuast.

And if you knew anything about turbos you'd know that most street performance cars run rich on turbos due to the fact they vent atmospherically unless they put on a translator and moved the Air Flow meter. Ideally you wouldn't want to be rich or lean obviously.

Owned? Yes... because you were right in saying that there was no way to get the flames from the exhaust other than a spark plug? Oh wait, as I remember it and most people on here who have seen street cars do it when downshifting, looks like you were wrong. Here's a hint buddy, don't claim you owned someone until you have some facts straight.

and also is that your ugly mug in your avatar? whats with the face i dont get it...you make me want to see what your looking at that made you make that face.

Yay for people's ignorance of Classic Rock Music, actually it's Jim Morrison lol. From the band The Doors in the late 60s. Love his music, his philosophies and what not. Funny how you critique this pic but Bill Clinton is normal?

well this weekend or sometime have someone take one while following you and plz post it up, that would be nice.
yeah, ill try to borrow a digital camera or something

Actually it's not limited to F1 cars I was just giving you an example which you were more likely to see on T.V. to show that they don't have spark plugs in the exhuast.

And if you knew anything about turbos you'd know that most street performance cars run rich on turbos due to the fact they vent atmospherically unless they put on a translator and moved the Air Flow meter. Ideally you wouldn't want to be rich or lean obviously.

Owned? Yes... because you were right in saying that there was no way to get the flames from the exhaust other than a spark plug? Oh wait, as I remember it and most people on here who have seen street cars do it when downshifting, looks like you were wrong. Here's a hint buddy, don't claim you owned someone until you have some facts straight.
I think you just StallOWNED yourself, "And if you knew anything about turbos you'd know that most street performance cars run rich on turbos due to the fact they vent atmospherically unless they put on a translator and moved the Air Flow meter."
WTF are you talking about?

Oh, and about the whole Jim Morrison thing, you seem like one of those whiney 16 year olds who find a dead singer and worship him because its the "non-conformist thing to do."

Ok, say on my GSX I decided to vent my BOV atmospherically instead of re-circulating thte boost build up. Because of the fact that the air is metered before the BOV if you vent it, the air you vented isn't present anymore but the car already inputted the amount of fuel that is equal to the air it metered so you end up running rich. If I was set on venting I would have to put on a translator and move the Air Flow meter to after the BOV so as to meter the amount of air present AFTER it is vented. You can find more on it on websites liek howstuffworks.com or ask around, everyone knows what atmospheric venting is so...

And just so you know I first heard a Doors song by accident and then downloaded more and then found out that Jim Morrison was in the band, I didn't know he was dead I just liked his music. I didn't agree with some of his atnics, and I think he was stupid for drinking himself to death and all the drug abuse. But congratulations on jumping to conclusions.

And just so you know I first heard a Doors song by accident and then downloaded more. But congratulations on jumping to conclusions.
wow, your old school

RedFC3S has 0wned me in the past, but Partizan, do you honestly believe that someone with a turbo that is set up CORRECTLY is going to run rich? Thats just going to lose power, and undermine the point of the turbo.

Whatever dude. also Jim Morrison's philosophy was a direct result of all the acid and alcohol he was on, so you kind of have to take it with a grain of salt.

Want to worship some dead singer? Try Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon or Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead.

An intersting aside... F1 cars have blow off valves.


anyhoo I see what Partizan is saying (as hard as it was) hes talking about losing the air already metered by the MAF and the engine dumping the same amount of fuel in. Its confusing because that really isnt running rich its more or less just a shitty quirk you get when you want the Pfft sound. I precive "running rich" as more of an on throttle condition.

Turbo cars do usually run richer than N/A cars just because they pump more air (hotter too) and who doesnt want a safety net? also all cars do run rich at full thottle. (yes even a GEO metro) a 14.7:1 A/F at full thottle is way too much heat for even built engines to handle.


"Im not gonna be conformist and conform to you non-conformists"

"dude, we just got goth served."

-Southpark

lol thx for rephrasing me it's hard for me to explain technical stuff on computers.

RedFC3S, yeah, just because I didn't discover the doors till sometime about 2 years ago doesn't mean shit. I listened to different bands when a cousin let me listen to a record he had and I asked what it was. So let's pop a few more Midols and get that PMS under control.

kcap, notice how I said STREET not track, I could list of tons of people who vent the BOV without caring about it being set up properly, I never said it was the proper way. I recirc mine because I'd rather have my engine run more efficiently than have the Psst be a few decibals louder. Just because a singer dies does that mean that you can't have respect for their music anymore? If so you must have a real hard time liking music. And that was just me mistyping when I said philosophy I meant more like his poetry and outlooks, I don't always agree but it's just interesting to look at how he viewed things. What's more I don't need your ignorant ass lecturing me on what I should listen to and what singers or musicians I should consider significant.

(internet flaming is hilarious)

While the very last thing I want is someone with a bad attitude like you listening to the same music as me, because that would just make me feel stupider; i like the doors too and i was makin fun of you for the fact that (as it seemed) you only liked jimmy m because he died.

So i suggested some other singers that burnt out. you win either way. nice job, guy.

Lol, ok I don't worship him because he's dead, I just don't like new stuff as much but some is ok, I like his music, not the man. But whatever, Yeah, I find internet flaming pointless so w.e., Sorry if i came across as a prick but I don't like people trying to impede on my style.

Lol, ok I don't worship him because he's dead, I just don't like new stuff as much but some is ok, I like his music, not the man. But whatever, Yeah, I find internet flaming pointless so w.e., Sorry if i came across as a prick but I don't like people trying to impede on my style.
You should check out The Mars Volta, not all new music sucks ass

Kcap I don't know exactly what kind of fuel f1 cars use, but I doubt its like jet fuel... which is more or less deisel fuel.

Actually F1 Fuel Is Pretty Much Methanol Which Is Similar To What Top Fuel Dragsters Use. Jet-a Is Far More Potent Than Diesel And Very Very Flammable.

I think I saw some where that the fuel that F1 uses is invisible when it burns.

And Red, haven't heard of them before, I know not all new music sucks but in general I don't like it but sometimes I find some songs I like, I'll give those guys a listen.

Yes, F1 Cars Like Alot Of Other Race Cars Have An Invisible Fire Because They Burn So Hot. If You Ever See A Driver Get Out Of The Car And Run, Prance, Pat Himself Down, Roll Around, Etc. But You Don't See Anything Its Because He's On Fire.

And What Partizan Said Is True.... With A Maf Based Fi System If The Meter Is Before The Bov And Then The Valve Is Vented To The Atmosphere The Meter Has Already Adjusted For Airflow And When The Charge Reaches The Cc If Its Less Than What Was Metered The Car Has No Way Of Knowing So It Still Pumps In The Same Amount Of Fuel And Runs Rich For A Few Cycles (until Your Back On Throttle).

As For Race Cars.... Most Turbo Race Cars Use A Map Based System Which Is More Precise And Better Because It Monitors Plenum Pressure So Even If The System Is Vented Atmospherically It Can Still Adjust According To Plenum Pressure. High-end Systems Use Both Or Dual Mafs For Correction Factoring.

RedFC3S has 0wned me in the past, but Partizan, do you honestly believe that someone with a turbo that is set up CORRECTLY is going to run rich? Thats just going to lose power, and undermine the point of the turbo.



Once agian, 14.7:1 A/F is teh roxor 4 teh tubros!!!



They run rich because its safer than running even a 13:1 id rather have a touch less power than a hole in my piston


There is no spoone -teh matricks.

Yay for people's ignorance of Classic Rock Music, actually it's Jim Morrison lol. From the band The Doors in the late 60s. Love his music, his philosophies and what not. Funny how you critique this pic but Bill Clinton is normal?


yea for people's stupidity!!!!!! wow i wasnt talking to you...i was talking to kcap.....thats a funny ass face i laugh evertime. Like i would think you look like that......that pic in your sig looks like a dude that went to glamour shots or some fairy ass shit. wow

Once agian, 14.7:1 A/F is teh roxor 4 teh tubros!!!



They run rich because its safer than running even a 13:1 id rather have a touch less power than a hole in my piston


There is no spoone -teh matricks.


Maybe i should clarify what i mean, i mean with a map that is (as i understand the term "rich" to mean) using too much fuel for the turbo to match with boost.

Argh. anyway the Mars Volta is AWESOME, man. Chek out de-loused at the comatorium if you want a great concept album

back to the after burnerzzz :) :)

Maybe i should clarify what i mean, i mean with a map that is (as i understand the term "rich" to mean) using too much fuel for the turbo to match with boost.



running rich is a map where too much fuel is fed to the engine, the turbo really has nothing to do with it besides feeding more air (hence more fuel yada yada). your original statment was something along the lines of " [running rich with a turbo is Dumb]" followed by "do you honestly believe that someone with a turbo that is set up CORRECTLY is going to run rich" thats really a pretty stupid or vauge comment. Running rich is really no big deal for the turbo system, technically it would take some heat out of the exhaust which could lower the energy getting into the turbine but thats a long shot. (prolly last longer anyhoo) If your talking about a fuel map so shitty its about 9:1 or something redicilus like that. thats common knowledge, and any tuner wouldnt do that regaurdless if the car is turbo or not . now as for backfires and flames while decelerating - where this all started. backfires are caused by an over-lean condition where theres not enough fuel for the plugs to light off fuel goes out the exhaust - gets hot - boom. flames are caused by either being too rich (caused by shitty tune) or lots of misfires (shitty sparkplugs) RedFC has both... hence the rotary potato style 15 second flame.

The only real thing I can think of thats bad for a Turbo fuel wise is if you have a WRC stlye anti-lag system. but really thats something completely different

Argh. anyway the Mars Volta is AWESOME, man. Chek out de-loused at the comatorium if you want a great concept album
Greatest.....Album.....EVAR!!

Greatest.....Album.....EVAR!!


kitche's greatest hits? :dunno:

well all the cars in my vids that blow out flame dont seem to be "shitty tuned" so yea......or any race cars i see on tv, all styles of racing. so i guess there all just shitty tuned since they blow out flames. I THINK NOT

Most race cars only shoot a flame for a split second though. If there is a flame there for an extended period of time, like a couple seconds, there probably is something wrong with the tuning or the motor. I'm no expert at all, but I autox and drag, and watch racing a lot. All I know is that the RX7 I saw on the freeway that held a flame for a while when decelerating was fast as hell. Since he passed me at least at 150mph, I'm sure something was right with his motor.

it COULD be because people have their fuel map so that if they go WOT from 1k rpms, they mix starts getting more gas, and because the engine isnt movin fast enuf to use it yet, it just shoots the stuff out the back.....

eh w/e im just talkin out of my ass

*stiffler voice*
What the fuck is going on?

The Reason Race Cars Shoot Flames Is Because Going From A Wot To A Off Throttle Environment The Fuel System Has To Catch Up To The Motors Decent Rate.... Hence A Rich Condition, Mixed With The Super High Octane Fuel And 1000 Degree Exhaust Pipes, There Is A Flash Point That The Fuel Reachs And Burns Out Before Completely Exiting The Exhaust System. Blue Flames Turn To Yellow As The Fuel Burns Off Cooling Down. My Rb20det Used To Do The Same Thing Upon Deceleration, So Did My 2 Cycle Go-kart, My Formula Ford And My Formula Mazda Back In The Day.

OK OK OK my car "Back Fiers" when i down shift, or keep the gas at high trpm then let go of the gas.
a blue flame and loud pop happens. i like it !
and my car is not shitty tuned!!! it caust me $500 to tune with the HKS f-com!!!
but then i saw a beat up mini van the other day that backed fierd, (no flames just a liud pop!)

Probably cause it's so old and crappy that the timing is off and the exhaust valve opens to soon, ignition happens when valve is opening.

OK OK OK my car "Back Fiers" when i down shift, or keep the gas at high trpm then let go of the gas.
a blue flame and loud pop happens. i like it !
and my car is not shitty tuned!!! it caust me $500 to tune with the HKS f-com!!!
but then i saw a beat up mini van the other day that backed fierd, (no flames just a liud pop!)


Standalone or piggyback? if I ever happen to rob a bank i either want to get a F-Con / Reytec / Power FC... or if its a big bank a motec.

uh it the stand alone, my ecu for some resone whent out. so i had to get a new one. insted i saved for 2 month and got the F con. and it needed programing so i ha dto weigth another month so i can afford the tuning.

ok well 2 everyone that wanted a pic of a back fire well her it is i got it off a vid that i downloaded.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/165388BackFire.JPG

yea i got that vid too, also there is a nice pic in the new super street of a jgtc car back firing.

yea i want my car 2 do that 2

hey just wondering, R.W. you still got that sil-eighty? and i'm guessing RedFC lives in TX too. i needa be schooled in Rx7 101, lol i seriously want one of those for a 2nd car...

hey just wondering, R.W. you still got that sil-eighty? and i'm guessing RedFC lives in TX too. i needa be schooled in Rx7 101, lol i seriously want one of those for a 2nd car...
www.rx7club.com is your friend, R.W. still has the Sil40 :uhoh: and we both live in Austin

Red's car is the sex.

one will be parked in my driveway very shortly, if everything goes to plan...but i'm probably going to go ported NA at first and turbo it later maybe.

ok so let me get this right. if i get a straight pipe line exhaust(custom made) and take the cat out i will backfire small flames???? thats crazy my car backfires but just makes the 3 popping sounds i like it lol. so yea am i right ???

hey just wondering, R.W. you still got that sil-eighty? and i'm guessing RedFC lives in TX too. i needa be schooled in Rx7 101, lol i seriously want one of those for a 2nd car...


Yup, Fresh SR20 and 16in Enkei Mesh Coming soon.

I finally found out what he was talking about. Check out that scooter. The worlds fastest atv (200 mph *BS*).

http://www.jetwebb.com/


By the way, MY FLAMES ARE BIGGER!
http://www.go300mph.com/images/MAM051703/DSC00040.JPG

ok well 2 everyone that wanted a pic of a back fire well her it is i got it off a vid that i downloaded.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/165388BackFire.JPG

what suspension do you have?? looks like you have one hell of a camber problem!!
and is there any way around paying $20,058,669,370,285.93 plus tax for a camber kit??

wow are u serious d-bo thats koguchis car...he is japanese drifter and if you didnt notice negative camber is how some drifters setup there car. Back in the day it was THE style and negative camber was like holy cow wow thats difinently not good for your car. Atleast that looks exactly like koguchi's car in the vid i have. So yea im sure he knows how to setup his car.

sorry i don't pay attention to japanese drifters.. i really don't have much interest in drifting so i never learned anything about it.. i never watch tv so i never see any tv shows about it.. and i don't read magazines so i don't read anything about drifting either.. all i know is that there are some engines that are better for drifting than others..

yea i hear there are "better" engines and i hear that it really doesnt matter what engine but all in all i really dont care since im not a professional street corner taking tire smoking suspension tuning person...i just do it when i feel like having intimate love making with my 240....wait no. Well lets say she smokes during it and i smoke after it lol. no i dont smoke, really i dont gross.

Camber kits? Skunk2 sells themf or Integras, RSX's, Civics, and del sols for 300 dollars. Don't know if thats a lot though. Haven't looked at others.

wow i wish that was my car D-BO but as u have learned that is not my car. the one on my sig is my baby

Red's car is the sex.

one will be parked in my driveway very shortly, if everything goes to plan...but i'm probably going to go ported NA at first and turbo it later maybe.
thanks man

actually, read up on the rotary motor a little more, you cant turbo an N/A 13B, you need to just start out with a 13B-T

as long as you dont get a 240, you will be ok :grinyes:

as long as you dont get a 240, you will be ok :grinyes:

He said in the midst of the 240 forum...

Hmmmm. Running rich. Can anyone say either burning up exhaust valves or damaging your turbo? Either the unburnt fuel explodes somewhere after the combustion chamber(backfires) and can potentially cause turbocharger damage or it burns continously and can raise turbine inlet temps(EGT) to 2000F. This will definately shorten your turbochargers life. I'm pretty sure your exhaust valves won't be too happy either. This is why care must be taken when selecting cams for a turbocharged engine to avoid too high of a valve overlap. If these fires aren't occuring under tuned conditions with properly selected cams, fix them. The only reason a fire should occur is because the throttle blade closes while the remaining air in the intake tract between the MAFS and throttle blade has been metered. This air is not entering the combustion chamber fast enough so the computer is dumping all this fuel into the engine. Its kinda like what someone said earlier with the fuel lag. I knew it was a bad idea to open this thread.