ANOTHER draft thread
carrrnuttt
10-19-2004, 04:07 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33754
IN THE MILITARY
Medical workers face military draft
Pentagon plan calls up medics, nurses, doctors in national emergencies
Posted: July 25, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jon Dougherty
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
The Pentagon will draft experienced medical personnel, including medics, nurses and physicians, in the event of a national emergency.
The "health care personnel delivery system" is being readied by the Department of Defense, according to a report published by the Newhouse News Service, to cope with military casualties from a large-scale biological or chemical attack. The plan was authorized by Congress in 1987 to deal with large-scale casualties that outstripped the active-duty military's ability to handle them.
The news service also reported the Pentagon is considering other "special skills" drafts, to include military linguists, computer experts or engineers, that could arise from other immediate needs.
"We're going to elevate that kind of draft to be a priority," Lewis Brodsky, acting director of the Selective Service System, told Newhouse News Service.
The plan calls for the president to issue a proclamation ordering 13.5 million health-care professionals to register for a draft within 13 days. Following the proclamation, Congress would quickly pass legislation authorizing the draft of health-care workers aged 20-44, and for the first time in U.S. history, the draft would include women.
The Pentagon would then inform the Selective Service System of the number of personnel needed for each of the 62 medical specialties. The news service said a separate draft lottery would be held for each specialty.
The Defense Department believes it could draft up to 80,000 personnel – surgeons, dentists, nurses, X-ray personnel, paramedics, etc. – within several months of the draft through the Military Entrance Processing Command.
The news service said the plan, however, isn't well-known among the medical community.
"If you were to ask 10 doctors, maybe one might have heard something about it," Dr. Marybeth McCall, chief medical officer at Crouse Hospital in Syracuse, N.Y., and an Air Force veteran, told the news service.
According to the Selective Service website, the medical draft would "provide a fair and equitable draft of doctors, nurses, medical technicians and those with certain other health-care skills if, in some future emergency, the military's existing medical capability proved insufficient and there is a shortage of volunteers."
It would "draft a very small percentage of America's health-care providers into military service. Impact on the availability of civilian health care would be minimal."
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940, which created the country's first peacetime draft and formally established the Selective Service System as an independent federal agency.
"From 1948 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the armed forces which could not be filled through voluntary means," says information posted on the Selective Service website.
The draft ended in 1973, near the close of the Vietnam War, and reverted to an all-volunteer force. Registration for the draft was suspended in 1975 but resumed again during the waning days of President Jimmy Carter's administration in 1980, in response to the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan.
Men who reach their 18th birthday are required by law to register for the draft. Newhouse News said Selective Service maintains 2,000 active draft boards around the country that would handle appeals for exemptions, deferments and postponements.
As WorldNetDaily reported, the U.S. was not considering a military draft to fill combat ranks even after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
"No heightened measures have been undertaken to bring the nation closer to the re-establishment of conscription" following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., Selective Service said in a statement issued in November 2001.
IN THE MILITARY
Medical workers face military draft
Pentagon plan calls up medics, nurses, doctors in national emergencies
Posted: July 25, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jon Dougherty
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
The Pentagon will draft experienced medical personnel, including medics, nurses and physicians, in the event of a national emergency.
The "health care personnel delivery system" is being readied by the Department of Defense, according to a report published by the Newhouse News Service, to cope with military casualties from a large-scale biological or chemical attack. The plan was authorized by Congress in 1987 to deal with large-scale casualties that outstripped the active-duty military's ability to handle them.
The news service also reported the Pentagon is considering other "special skills" drafts, to include military linguists, computer experts or engineers, that could arise from other immediate needs.
"We're going to elevate that kind of draft to be a priority," Lewis Brodsky, acting director of the Selective Service System, told Newhouse News Service.
The plan calls for the president to issue a proclamation ordering 13.5 million health-care professionals to register for a draft within 13 days. Following the proclamation, Congress would quickly pass legislation authorizing the draft of health-care workers aged 20-44, and for the first time in U.S. history, the draft would include women.
The Pentagon would then inform the Selective Service System of the number of personnel needed for each of the 62 medical specialties. The news service said a separate draft lottery would be held for each specialty.
The Defense Department believes it could draft up to 80,000 personnel – surgeons, dentists, nurses, X-ray personnel, paramedics, etc. – within several months of the draft through the Military Entrance Processing Command.
The news service said the plan, however, isn't well-known among the medical community.
"If you were to ask 10 doctors, maybe one might have heard something about it," Dr. Marybeth McCall, chief medical officer at Crouse Hospital in Syracuse, N.Y., and an Air Force veteran, told the news service.
According to the Selective Service website, the medical draft would "provide a fair and equitable draft of doctors, nurses, medical technicians and those with certain other health-care skills if, in some future emergency, the military's existing medical capability proved insufficient and there is a shortage of volunteers."
It would "draft a very small percentage of America's health-care providers into military service. Impact on the availability of civilian health care would be minimal."
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940, which created the country's first peacetime draft and formally established the Selective Service System as an independent federal agency.
"From 1948 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the armed forces which could not be filled through voluntary means," says information posted on the Selective Service website.
The draft ended in 1973, near the close of the Vietnam War, and reverted to an all-volunteer force. Registration for the draft was suspended in 1975 but resumed again during the waning days of President Jimmy Carter's administration in 1980, in response to the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan.
Men who reach their 18th birthday are required by law to register for the draft. Newhouse News said Selective Service maintains 2,000 active draft boards around the country that would handle appeals for exemptions, deferments and postponements.
As WorldNetDaily reported, the U.S. was not considering a military draft to fill combat ranks even after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
"No heightened measures have been undertaken to bring the nation closer to the re-establishment of conscription" following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., Selective Service said in a statement issued in November 2001.
2strokebloke
10-19-2004, 04:19 PM
One step closer to a red America?
carrrnuttt
10-19-2004, 04:23 PM
One step closer to a red America?
Read my other thread...(hint, it has the word "KGB" in the title)
Read my other thread...(hint, it has the word "KGB" in the title)
aloharocky
10-19-2004, 05:05 PM
1987? I wonder why Dickhead Clinton didn't repeal it.
thegladhatter
10-19-2004, 05:40 PM
One step closer to a red America?
Those communist Dems will LOVE that!
Those communist Dems will LOVE that!
2strokebloke
10-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Those communist Dems will LOVE that!
As will the authoritarian Republicans!
As will the authoritarian Republicans!
Flatrater
10-19-2004, 06:58 PM
So what party ran congress in 1987? Only asking since I don't remember those were some foggy years for me.
thegladhatter
10-19-2004, 07:04 PM
The Democrats!
Flatrater
10-19-2004, 08:00 PM
The Democrats!
Thanks that explains it. I should of known better.
Thanks that explains it. I should of known better.
Flatrater
10-19-2004, 08:14 PM
I found some proof that Bush is really going to start the draft when he wins re-election. Here it is
Bush Secret Plan to Draft Elderly Revealed
(2004-10-19) -- Previously unseen documents released by the Kerry-Edwards campaign today reveal a secret Bush administration plan to draft the elderly into military service.
"If George W. Bush wins this election, I warn you that he will kill two birds with one stone," said John Forbes Kerry, the Democrat presidential candidate. "He'll bail out Social Security by sending our nation's grandparents to the front lines in Iraq to die in the wrong war."
Mr. Kerry, who is also a U.S. Senator, said, "Senior citizens are patriotic, plentiful and many of them still have their old military uniforms and vintage rifles from World War II and Korea. It's a cynical scheme, and that's why this administration is hiding it until January."
According to details of the secret Bush plan, backdoor-drafted National Guard and Reserve troops will come home rapidly as they're replaced by five divisions of combat-ready "geriatric GIs."
To date, the Pentagon has not specifically denied the existence of the alleged secret plan dubbed 'Operation Joint Replacement.'
President Bush, asked to respond to the Kerry allegation during a campaign stop, said, "This is the first I've heard of it. But we don't need to draft our seniors. If we'd let 'em, they'd volunteer. Next question."
by Scott Ott
Bush Secret Plan to Draft Elderly Revealed
(2004-10-19) -- Previously unseen documents released by the Kerry-Edwards campaign today reveal a secret Bush administration plan to draft the elderly into military service.
"If George W. Bush wins this election, I warn you that he will kill two birds with one stone," said John Forbes Kerry, the Democrat presidential candidate. "He'll bail out Social Security by sending our nation's grandparents to the front lines in Iraq to die in the wrong war."
Mr. Kerry, who is also a U.S. Senator, said, "Senior citizens are patriotic, plentiful and many of them still have their old military uniforms and vintage rifles from World War II and Korea. It's a cynical scheme, and that's why this administration is hiding it until January."
According to details of the secret Bush plan, backdoor-drafted National Guard and Reserve troops will come home rapidly as they're replaced by five divisions of combat-ready "geriatric GIs."
To date, the Pentagon has not specifically denied the existence of the alleged secret plan dubbed 'Operation Joint Replacement.'
President Bush, asked to respond to the Kerry allegation during a campaign stop, said, "This is the first I've heard of it. But we don't need to draft our seniors. If we'd let 'em, they'd volunteer. Next question."
by Scott Ott
YogsVR4
10-20-2004, 09:01 AM
When the scare tactic of the draft failed, instead of letting the matter drop, the democrats are trying to still find a way to use it. There is no resolution or bill or committee puting any type of draft legislation together.
aloharocky
10-20-2004, 12:55 PM
Look for it to worsen this week. The Demorats are going to come out with some real whoppers, cause they think their drug-influenced followers can't remember which lies they tell from day to day.
RedLightning
10-21-2004, 09:19 PM
omg can we get over the draft shit, I mean come on, in one of the debates(2nd i think) Bush came out and said, "there will be no draft". Even a Texan is not so stupid that they would lie like that.
lazysmurff
10-21-2004, 11:08 PM
Look for it to worsen this week. The Demorats are going to come out with some real whoppers, cause they think their drug-influenced followers can't remember which lies they tell from day to day.
Those communist Dems will LOVE that!
dear god. its time to stop ridiculous name calling.
communists and democrats are two ENTIRELY different things. democrats still believe in capitalism and private property and not helping the poor etc.
democrats, also, are not chronic drug users. not any more than republicans. if you want to attack a party for having a large population of hippies, attack the green party.
Those communist Dems will LOVE that!
dear god. its time to stop ridiculous name calling.
communists and democrats are two ENTIRELY different things. democrats still believe in capitalism and private property and not helping the poor etc.
democrats, also, are not chronic drug users. not any more than republicans. if you want to attack a party for having a large population of hippies, attack the green party.
dayna240sx
10-21-2004, 11:23 PM
dear god. its time to stop ridiculous name calling.
communists and democrats are two ENTIRELY different things. democrats still believe in capitalism and private property and not helping the poor etc.
Democrats are known for their government programs to help the poor. Why do you think like at least 90% of people on welfare are democrats? Democrats think the goverment should have more control over people's money and it should be destributed more evenly and Republicans think people can control their own money.
communists and democrats are two ENTIRELY different things. democrats still believe in capitalism and private property and not helping the poor etc.
Democrats are known for their government programs to help the poor. Why do you think like at least 90% of people on welfare are democrats? Democrats think the goverment should have more control over people's money and it should be destributed more evenly and Republicans think people can control their own money.
carrrnuttt
10-22-2004, 12:13 AM
Democrats are known for their government programs to help the poor. Why do you think like at least 90% of people on welfare are democrats? Democrats think the goverment should have more control over people's money and it should be destributed more evenly and Republicans think people can control their own money.There are varying degrees for each party, and all fall within the bounds of these political ideologies:
Libertarians
Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and
economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one
that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.
Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose
government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate
diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.
Left (Liberal)
Liberals usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy.
They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help
the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business.
Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties
and free expression, support government action to promote equality,
and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
Centrist
Centrists espouse a "middle ground" regarding government control
of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on the issue,
they sometimes favor government intervention and sometimes
support individual freedom of choice. Centrists pride themselves on
keeping an open mind, tend to oppose "political extremes," and
emphasize what they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.
Right (Conservative)
Conservatives tend to favor economic freedom, but frequently
support laws to restrict personal behavior that violates "traditional
values." They oppose excessive government control of business, while
endorsing government action to defend morality and the traditional
family structure. Conservatives usually support a strong military,
oppose bureaucracy and high taxes, favor a free-market economy,
and endorse strong law enforcement.
Statist (Big Government)
Statists want government to have a great deal of power over the
economy and individual behavior. They frequently doubt whether
economic liberty and individual freedom are practical options in
today's world. Statists tend to distrust the free market, support
high taxes and centralized planning of the economy, oppose
diverse lifestyles, and doubt the importance of civil liberties.
Libertarians
Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and
economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one
that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.
Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose
government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate
diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.
Left (Liberal)
Liberals usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy.
They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help
the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business.
Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties
and free expression, support government action to promote equality,
and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
Centrist
Centrists espouse a "middle ground" regarding government control
of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on the issue,
they sometimes favor government intervention and sometimes
support individual freedom of choice. Centrists pride themselves on
keeping an open mind, tend to oppose "political extremes," and
emphasize what they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.
Right (Conservative)
Conservatives tend to favor economic freedom, but frequently
support laws to restrict personal behavior that violates "traditional
values." They oppose excessive government control of business, while
endorsing government action to defend morality and the traditional
family structure. Conservatives usually support a strong military,
oppose bureaucracy and high taxes, favor a free-market economy,
and endorse strong law enforcement.
Statist (Big Government)
Statists want government to have a great deal of power over the
economy and individual behavior. They frequently doubt whether
economic liberty and individual freedom are practical options in
today's world. Statists tend to distrust the free market, support
high taxes and centralized planning of the economy, oppose
diverse lifestyles, and doubt the importance of civil liberties.
thegladhatter
10-29-2004, 04:46 AM
Marc04
10-29-2004, 12:56 PM
thanks for pointing that out
Many Americans do full time service. John Kerry believes that in these times, we need to bolster these efforts with a nationwide commitment to national service. Whether it is a Summer of Service for our teenagers, helping young people serve their country in return for college, or the Older Americans in Service program, John Kerry's plan will call on every American of every age and every background to serve. John Kerry will set a goal of one million Americans a year in national service within the next decade.
From the site you gave us all.
now, where does that say army? If you listen to the man, he says only require you to do this service in return for money for college. There will be no one putting a gun to your head saying "Sponge bathe this old person"
Many Americans do full time service. John Kerry believes that in these times, we need to bolster these efforts with a nationwide commitment to national service. Whether it is a Summer of Service for our teenagers, helping young people serve their country in return for college, or the Older Americans in Service program, John Kerry's plan will call on every American of every age and every background to serve. John Kerry will set a goal of one million Americans a year in national service within the next decade.
From the site you gave us all.
now, where does that say army? If you listen to the man, he says only require you to do this service in return for money for college. There will be no one putting a gun to your head saying "Sponge bathe this old person"
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