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vf-19j
10-17-2004, 08:46 AM
First of all you better own a 95 R33 or older model. Currently Motorex hasn't found a way of implementing OBDII on the 96 or above. My question is why didn't Motorex just pay someone to build a OBDII and and implement it. Now, there is recently legality problems with airbags on the R32's, they didn't come with any and Motorex forgot to mention this when they ran the petition for the R32. So expect some delays with the R32, and maybe the R33 because NHSTA may start to scrutinize the R33 because of the R32.

1. Paper work.

First off you better have a copy of your orders. Contact Motorex and get all the paper work. You will need this to present to Personel Property before your car can even be processed. They will then fill out all the paper work. Deregister your car at the LTO in Yokohama, if your in Sasebo or Okinawa I don't have a fuckn clue where to go. Make sure you are still have insurance, then go to your city hall and get temp plates (the white plates with a red stripe) and get a temp pass to drive on the base. Bring the car to Personel Property, the car cannot have anymore than 1/4 gas tank (go race like hell the night before because you aint gonna be driving it for atleast 6 months). Make sure you have a few copies of the keys cause you got to give Personel Property a copy of it. Your car will be shipped.

2. Preping your car.
Clean your freakn car make sure there are no fluids leaking.
Make sure you don't have any mods that affect emissions. e.g. better take off that straight pipe and put the cat back. If you don't have the stock ECU you better get one. Less work for Motorex=Less time you have to wait. If you changed out the internals (aftermarket cams) or overbore the engine and the compression ratio changes good fuckn luck. Because that is more fuckn shit Motorex has to do to fuckn cover up.

3. When your in the states. Insurance is a bitch i got quoted at $2000 for 6 months, I'm 22 and in the Navy. I'm not fuckn rich.

4. All those people in this forum who all talk about getting a Skyline. Here's my advice.

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1. Shut the fuck up. You ain't gonna get a Skyline, if you did you would've bought one from Motorex all ready.

2. You have absolutely no fuckn clue on how much it costs to keep the car maintained. Because your mind has been warped too much by watching the Fast and Furious too many times.

3. If you don't wanna pay Motorex $15k to do the conversion then get something else. $15k is chump change when compared to a R34 GTR that sells for $50k-$60k and yes that is dollars not yen. $40k after a conversion for a R33 GTR if you buy a one for $25 price tag. $40k for a 10 year old car that is only pushing 280PS is way to fuckn much money. And if you you want to push 600PS add another $15k which puts you at $55. Oh yeah lets not forget about the time and money spent to get all the parts from Japan. If you don't have that kind of money laying around this is all a dream and you need to fuckn wake up. Just drive the Skyline in Grand Tourismo and be happy. Go build your self a RX-7, Supra, or S15 cause it will be way cheaper and will look better anyway. Hell buy a WRX STi, that is a good car. Still be cheaper. And if your one of those people how think that you can go buy a cheaper GTS-t or other than a GTR and then get Motorex to do the conversion. Don't fool your self. Waist of time and money for a piece of shit, better off building yourself a S15. If your not getting a GTR don't bother, you just want a car with the name Skyline on it. If it is not a GTR it is not a Skyline, period.

GTES-t
10-17-2004, 09:18 AM
Wow, you make great first impressions don't you? And thank you for making such a good image of your military professionalism! It's so nice to think that they're all as well mannered and full of etiquette as you!

Also, how do you expect someone to build an S15 when its body has never been available in the US? I believe you'll want to change that to an S14 body, which is.

vf-19j
10-17-2004, 09:43 AM
Wow, you make great first impressions don't you? And thank you for making such a good image of your military professionalism! It's so nice to think that they're all as well mannered and full of etiquette as you!

Also, how do you expect someone to build an S15 when its body has never been available in the US? I believe you'll want to change that to an S14 body, which is.

97-98 240 SE get there. Sorry about my language, as you can see I curse like a sailor, no pun intended. Just tired of wannabe's. If you want it get it. There are only two types of people in this world those who live their dream and those who just dream. Sick and tired of people bad mouthing Motorex about the whole importation issue. If you don't wanna bring your car through Motorex that is great, cause there are many ways of getting around it. If you don't get caught more power to you. Personnelly all the regulations from NHSTA are bull shit anyways, it exist to protect US interest. e.g. Protect domestic companies from foreign competitors. With out all tedious regulation from NHSTA the US would be flooded by vechicles made out side of the US. e.g. In Japan 80% of the cars you see are no more than 5 years old because of regulations about old cars, inspections blah blah blah, $$$. So all these cars got to go some where, the US where there is a huge consumer market for used cars of similar makes overseas. Don't believe me, try finding a 97-98 240SE. Safety doesn't matter if you have all the side bar collision and stuff, if you get hit by a SUV going 50+ MPH, your dead. Let me say that again YOUR DEAD. NHSTA should be outlawing SUV's if public safety is concerned. The only thing that does matter is the EPA/DOT. Emissions directly relate to fuel/air ratio, which directly relates to HP. The closer you maintain 1 lambda the less emissions you put out and the more efficient horsepower. Win win situation for the environment and street racer.

nismo_power
10-17-2004, 02:07 PM
thanks for stating the obvious, captain jackass. incase you didnt know, this forum has covered the exact same thing you posted numerous times. weve been over it, weve done it. half of us are skyline owners (not me though:D), a few in the US and a few overseas. we arent a bunch of newbs that dont know what we are doing. go back to having oral negotiations with the rest of your sailor pals.

Now, there is recently legality problems with airbags on the R32's, they didn't come with any and Motorex forgot to mention this when they ran the petition for the R32.

thats because Motorex didnt run the petition, they bought it off JK Motors.

If your not getting a GTR don't bother, you just want a car with the name Skyline on it. If it is not a GTR it is not a Skyline, period.

BTW: the skyline name was around before the GT-R. so i believe that statement is full of crap.

XujinkoSky
10-17-2004, 02:37 PM
You are 22 and in the Navy. What is your rank? That has a lot to do with your pay, smartass. I'm on my way to become an Officer in the USMC right after college, and you can shove that statement up your used ass. This is just on terms of Military, and I have no idea on civilian methods of purchasing a Skyline without heavy amounts of money.

So Mr. Navy Man, care to take this a bit further?

(Btw: Who said I was taking it back to the US? :grinno: )

Skyline69
10-17-2004, 09:22 PM
You are 22 and in the Navy. What is your rank? That has a lot to do with your pay, smartass. I'm on my way to become an Officer in the USMC right after college, and you can shove that statement up your used ass. This is just on terms of Military, and I have no idea on civilian methods of purchasing a Skyline without heavy amounts of money.

So Mr. Navy Man, care to take this a bit further?

(Btw: Who said I was taking it back to the US? :grinno: )

Alright, just let me say one thing......I am a Marine(for the past 5 years and the next 4), not "on my way" as you suggest you are. Let me tell you: You are nothing but a Wannabe until you become a Marine. Half the guys I know that were "on their way" are still civilians, because they couldn't hack it. So let me suggest that you don't brag about it, because you have NOT earned the title yet. Also to keep this on topic I live in Japan and ACTUALLY own a Skyline R33. Let me also suggest you get in real good physical shape :lol: I would be glad to tell you about the Marine Corps(the truth, not the bullshit some people make up) and bootcamp if you'd like. Just message me.

my3rdskyline
10-17-2004, 10:29 PM
thanks for stating the obvious, captain jackass. incase you didnt know, this forum has covered the exact same thing you posted numerous times.

If you're in the military you will agree on this. There is nothing in these forums that gived military specific details about what you need to do, who to contact, military orders and stuff like that. I thought that the original post (although not all of the content) had some very good information on it. I just had to pick through it to find it.

As far as a skyline not being a skyline unless it's a GT-R.
Yes we know the heritage and if you want to go back to pick the shit out of what this guys saying you can go ahead and waste your time. If you look at what this guy was TRYING to say which is "don't waste your money bringing back a GTS-t GTS25t or anything Non GT-R".... yeah, I agree with that.

RazorGTR
10-18-2004, 12:41 AM
vf-19j nice first post. While some of it was informative the rest was a complete and utter waste of reading!

If you girls want to have a bitch arguement about the military, rank, who is in what branch do it else where or I'll assist you. You ARE NOT going to fuck around in my forums. The shit stops here go it. :twak:


Now vf-19j there happens to be quite a few R32 GTS-t's that are wickedly quick along with R32 GTS-4's which can put my GTR to shame in outright performance! It only takes a little money and someone who knows how to tune them.

AvAlAnChE1090
10-18-2004, 01:25 AM
you all just got told

thegladhatter
10-18-2004, 07:57 AM
Hey...EVERYONE with a computer is a freaking expert!!!

vf-19j
10-18-2004, 09:51 AM
FYI, E-5 = PO2 made it in 2 1/2 years in the Navy. Pretty damn fast by any services's standard. I just get paid like 300 bucks less than an O-1, that is what you will be if you make it. Besides paygrade doesn't mean jack shit when I make just as much money as my CO that would be O-6, sitting on my ass. Any E-5 or below enlisted would be hurting if they bought a GTR. base pay of E-5 with over 4 years in $1,980 x 12months = $23,760. A stock R33 GTR will run you around $25k, that is a years worth of pay man. And don't claim to be something that you are not. You are not a Marine, you are what we in the military call a civilian. I have props for my Marine counterparts and don't talk shit about them. They do their job and I do mine. That is why the US Navy/Marine Corp team can invade a country and take control of it in 2 weeks. Where the hell was the Army. Besides didn't the recruiter tell you what Marines really stand for (My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment Sir). What I was saying about the GT-whatever is that if your going to pay Motorex 15Gs you might as well get you a GTR and make it worth it. Don't get me wrong the peeps that I hang out have GTS-t's and they will smoke a stock GTR in a heartbeat. Infact I wouldn't mind having a R34 GTS-t.

You are 22 and in the Navy. What is your rank? That has a lot to do with your pay, smartass. I'm on my way to become an Officer in the USMC right after college, and you can shove that statement up your used ass. This is just on terms of Military, and I have no idea on civilian methods of purchasing a Skyline without heavy amounts of money.

So Mr. Navy Man, care to take this a bit further?

(Btw: Who said I was taking it back to the US? :grinno: )

RazorGTR
10-18-2004, 12:06 PM
Some people just can't take a hint they. vf-19j have a nice vacation. We'll see you in 5 days. The next one that posts the same will ge the same treatment. :shakehead

XujinkoSky
10-18-2004, 12:16 PM
Screw it.

*Edited Posts*

SAPrez
10-18-2004, 01:23 PM
There are a lot of people who are prejudiced against anything other than a GTR---on the other hand, looking at it from the financial standpoint, and all things being equal (quality of the vehicle), for some the alternative of getting a sub-$6000 GTS-T and then forking over the $17000+ for legalizating over spending equal amounts of the car and legalization IS a valid point, and one that I think somebody shouldn't be put down for considering.

mB

nismo_power
10-18-2004, 03:55 PM
There are a lot of people who are prejudiced against anything other than a GTR---on the other hand, looking at it from the financial standpoint, and all things being equal (quality of the vehicle), for some the alternative of getting a sub-$6000 GTS-T and then forking over the $17000+ for legalizating over spending equal amounts of the car and legalization IS a valid point, and one that I think somebody shouldn't be put down for considering.

mB


thats a good plan for someone on a budget, but look at it this way. 6k + 17k = 23k, plus an rb26dett swap = another 5k, plus intallation and labor, your looking at over what you wouldve paid for a GT-R in the first place.

SAPrez
10-18-2004, 05:31 PM
True, but the upside is that it can be done in parts. The big hump is the $17k.

mB

nismo_power
10-18-2004, 06:27 PM
yea, that would be something that either doesnt want a GT-R to be different, or thats all they can afford at that point.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
10-18-2004, 09:24 PM
vf-19j, you the man. I did all this research myself months ago when I wanted the Navy to ship my Skyline to Motorex. Too bad I couldn't afford what Motorex was asking on my enlisted pay. Anyway, good shit man, this is some very helpful info for Military members.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
10-18-2004, 09:38 PM
I love Skylines!

(Don't suspend me, please)

I love Skylines!

XujinkoSky
10-18-2004, 09:46 PM
Whoa, slow down there wanna be Marine. There are two kinds of people in the Military, Enlisted and Officers. If I am a betting man, and I am, I'd bet my enlisted paycheck that vf-19j is enlisted and being that he is 22 and I would guess no higher than a E-4 rank wise. Maybe an E-5, if he joined at 17/18 y/o and is one squared away sailor. The difference between enlisted pay and officer pay is a hell of a lot of money. Us enlisted folk don't make near as much money as you (soon to be, you say) officers.

Heres the military pay chart. See for yourself.

http://www.dfas.mil/money/milpay/pay/2004paytable.pdf

Danke, sir. Though, as Razor said, we need to stay on topic. I appreciate it on seeing my point. ;)

Zaphod Beeblebrox
10-18-2004, 09:50 PM
Yeah, lol, I was reading post by post and I just read his and I came back to edit mine.

Zato
10-19-2004, 06:45 PM
Well I was going to join the military for college money and as a side bonus maybe pick up a Skyline, but with a recent loss in my family money is no longer an issue for me so gonna get my Skyline(an R32) hopefully by next year now that I can afford it. :)

Well unless something comes up.... -_-

jmrev
10-19-2004, 09:21 PM
is not as easy as it sounds zato in gettin a skyline in the millitary, even if they do transport your goods, i only know of one guy that drives his skyline in Hawaii in the Millitary. There must be others i dont know of. Its hard and requires alot of money.

Zato
10-20-2004, 02:31 AM
is not as easy as it sounds zato in gettin a skyline in the millitary, even if they do transport your goods, i only know of one guy that drives his skyline in Hawaii in the Millitary. There must be others i dont know of. Its hard and requires alot of money.

I'm no longer headed to the military. I can afford the car, legalization and shipping cost. I live in Hawaii, who's the guy your talking about? So far the only Skylines here are an R33 and R34 that belong to a tuning shop, but if theres someone else I'd be interested in talking to them, I need as much info as possible before I head to Japan. :)

nismo_power
10-20-2004, 03:08 AM
I'm no longer headed to the military. I can afford the car, legalization and shipping cost. I live in Hawaii, who's the guy your talking about? So far the only Skylines here are an R33 and R34 that belong to a tuning shop, but if theres someone else I'd be interested in talking to them, I need as much info as possible before I head to Japan. :)


theres a guy named Romeo that owns the only street legal r34 in hawaii, its personally owned, not by the shop...although he is doing mucho promotion for them. its silver with a full c-west kit.

jmrev
10-20-2004, 12:15 PM
let me see if i can get contact with him, hes in the AFmillitary base in hawaii, last time i spoke to him was about two years ago.

Zato
10-20-2004, 01:37 PM
theres a guy named Romeo that owns the only street legal r34 in hawaii, its personally owned, not by the shop...although he is doing mucho promotion for them. its silver with a full c-west kit.

I know which Romeo your talking about. In an old issue of "Shift" (a small mag for Nissan owners in HI) it said he runs Atomic Performance, but I'm not sure on the details. I've seen the R34 before and since he has the R33 also I wanted to bring an R32 over.

nismo_power
10-20-2004, 02:04 PM
I know which Romeo your talking about. In an old issue of "Shift" (a small mag for Nissan owners in HI) it said he runs Atomic Performance, but I'm not sure on the details. I've seen the R34 before and since he has the R33 also I wanted to bring an R32 over.


It's featured on the team rice website, as well as a shot in HCI in the Hawaii 7 article.

jmrev
10-20-2004, 08:28 PM
why am i gonna contact him? what good does that do? all of the info is here anyways. My inlaw bro knows him real well, not me so if i can ill see if there is something new, but many of the people here are already in the millitary so it would be easier to ask guys like "my3rdskyline", im guessing he would know.

Zato
10-20-2004, 09:50 PM
why am i gonna contact him? what good does that do? all of the info is here anyways. My inlaw bro knows him real well, not me so if i can ill see if there is something new, but many of the people here are already in the millitary so it would be easier to ask guys like "my3rdskyline", im guessing he would know.

No problem, I just wanted to see if I could get a first hand, in person statement. I'm a bit overcautious about hearing it from someone online, especially after talking to Speed53, Night7, OmegaSkylines, and Batfa (though not about legalizing, about shipping). Not to discredit anyone, I know there are Skyline owners here.

Skyline69
10-25-2004, 03:44 AM
I'm in the military and I own a Skyline R33. The only legal way to import it is to go through MOTOREX. You would need the either just buy one of the Skyline's motorex has for sale(which would be easier in your case since you're not in Japan), or come here and buy one and pay to ship it to Cali, then when MOTOREX is finished with it(I hear they take 1 year to convert the Skylines sometimes) you would have to ship it to Hawaii. It's gonna cost you $16,000.00 for the conversion on an R32 through Motorex.....plus any other costs incurred. :screwy:

jmrev
10-25-2004, 04:12 PM
you have to pay 16k! and it can take up to 1year! thats crazy.

Skyline69
10-26-2004, 03:17 AM
Also don't even bother with trying to import a post 1995 model. Word is that Motorex lost their license to import 1996 on up models because of some discrepency. I don't know all the details but it's been talked about in a few posts on here. So all you could bring back would be an R32 which is $16,000 for the conversion or an R33 which is $17,000.........and like I said Motorex claims to only have a short turn around time but I've heard people say that it took them a year or more to even get their car back converted. :iceslolan These are the reasons I'm most likely NOT importing mine.........and hey.....I OWN a Skyline.......but :banghead: I'll probably have to sell my baby when I leave Japan in 3 Years................

nismo_power
10-26-2004, 03:20 AM
Also don't even bother with trying to import a post 1995 model. Word is that Motorex lost their license to import 1996 on up models because of some discrepency. I don't know all the details but it's been talked about in a few posts on here. So all you could bring back would be an R32 which is $16,000 for the conversion or an R33 which is $17,000.........and like I said Motorex claims to only have a short turn around time but I've heard people say that it took them a year or more to even get their car back converted. :iceslolan These are the reasons I'm most likely NOT importing mine.........and hey.....I OWN a Skyline.......but :banghead: I'll probably have to sell my baby when I leave Japan in 3 Years................


they didnt lose their lisence, they ran into OBDII problems. they still have a lisence to import and legalize skylines....but they need to figure out the OBDII on 96+ models first.

and the usual turn around time is anywhere from 3-6 months, with most taking 3-4 months.

tay2183
10-29-2004, 02:57 AM
I'm in the military currently stationed in Okinawa, Japan. I disagree with not sending a Skyline GTs-T. First of all a Skyline GTs-T R34 is about 12k-25k and a GT-R R34 is about 40k+... you see the price diff. If you really want a GT-R, buy the motor and put it in which ever body you wish...you can find a good cheap GT-R motor in a junkyard because they wreck GT-R's constantly due to the popularity of street racing and drifting. Personally I would pay to get a GTs-T converted because you can invest & buy parts and make it faster than a GT-R with the money you save for purchasing a GT-T instead of a R.
As far as shipping I've been doing my research and so far Motorex is the only converter that I've found...if I find more I'll post them.
Another thing about shipping (AF), but I think shipping may be the same for all military branches, TMO will ship your vehicle to the closest dock near your port-call and you will have to pay the diff from there to where ever you want the vehicle to go.
I called Motorex and they state that they do convert 99 Skylines for 25k.
I also called customs, they stated that all the other incurred charges do not apply to military because the vehicle will be considered personal goods...but they did say that you must own the vehicle for at least 2yrs. They also stated that the vehicle must be converted & you do have to get the paperwork from DOT & EPA before they can clear the vehicle, but it's only paperwork, and no money is involved.
As far as being able to afford the vehicle, it's all about money management. You're in the military, the only thing you have to pay for is...oh yeah nothing. Military gives you money, if not provided, for food and housing, and if you live overseas you get cola. It's all about making sacrifices if you really want a skyline. Instead of eating out go the the dfac.
Well thats my time, if anyone has any relivant info, something thats not already posted, on getting my skyline back to the states for less than 25k please help me. If I find anymore info pertaining to the shipment of your vehicle if you're military I'll keep you posted.

nismo_power
10-29-2004, 03:35 AM
yea they do legalize em.....but arent turning cars out yet. also.....according to motorex, GTS-T r34's are not available for import. and GT-T's arent available for import either. only GT-R's and GTS's. i think every other model you cannot import.

tay2183
10-29-2004, 10:32 AM
Thank you, I will call Motorex tonight and get more info. I did look at the vehicle eligibilty list and it did only have GTS and R only. I don't think it would really make a difference because you can still put a turbo in a regular GTS... and boom, there's your GTS-T, that is pretty much the only difference between the GTS and T. Thanks for the info, now I have more research to do.

Gtr2.7L
10-29-2004, 11:20 AM
Not anymore. The DOT has frozen all vehicles currently at Motorex.

I've had a car there for two years. They aren't going anywhere until they work out the passive restraint issue on the R32's and the OBDII issue for the 96+ vehicles.

You don't really need to wash the car (I did so I could put a heavy coat of wax on it to protect it as it went seaborne...) and you can leave whatever exhaust you have on the car. They are just going to cut it up anyway....the front pipes, cat, catback are all replaced. The only thing that remains the same is the muffler.

If you have any questions regarding the military process....ask. I shipped a car through FISC Yokosuka to San Pedro under military orders. I have been through this process.

they didnt lose their lisence, they ran into OBDII problems. they still have a lisence to import and legalize skylines....but they need to figure out the OBDII on 96+ models first.

and the usual turn around time is anywhere from 3-6 months, with most taking 3-4 months.

tay2183
10-29-2004, 09:13 PM
Thanks for that info. Do you know when the DOT will begin to re-release Skylines? That must also suck for you since you have no access to your vehicle. What has Motorex done for you since as of now their statments are false and they cannot modify vehicles? I will also call DOT and see what I can dig up for myself and I'll keep you all posted

nismo_power
10-30-2004, 12:13 AM
i knew they had problems with airbag issues in the r32's, but not the r33's. so....maybe they just want everything re-checked over on all the cars.

r34's being released by motorex is anyones guess. they say they will be released again in december, but as of late they dont seem to know.

vf-19j
10-30-2004, 01:55 AM
Make sure that they have driver and passenger airbag. I suggest contacting Motorex for prerequisites before buying a Skyline. One of my friend has his R33 GTS-t overbore to 2.7 may be a problem taking that back.

tay2183 your semi right about a GTS-t cost less to go faster than a GTR. But the GTR will can be push up to 600PS on stock internals. For a GTS-t you will have to get a new transmission and internals for anything over 450PS. If your trying to push up to 450-500PS yeah a GTS-t will cost less but if your pushing for 500+ PS the price difference between a GTR and GTS-t will only be about $3000-$4000. So in the end it would better to get a GTR in the first place and you have 4WD to keep all those ponies on the road. Just my 2 cents. Hopefully I will be getting my R33GTR V-spec this weekend :).

my3rdskyline
10-31-2004, 04:40 PM
i knew they had problems with airbag issues in the r32's, but not the r33's. so....maybe they just want everything re-checked over on all the cars.

r34's being released by motorex is anyones guess. they say they will be released again in december, but as of late they dont seem to know.
R32's have air bags?

GTES-t
10-31-2004, 05:45 PM
R32's have air bags?

Maybe that's the issue... they don't have them...

But that shouldn't be an issue, I believe airbags were not required until '95 or sometime after that. My US Spec '94 Isuzu doesn't have airbags after all.

jmrev
10-31-2004, 07:57 PM
:wtf: not all cars have airbags. That is just stupid of The gov.

vf-19j
11-01-2004, 04:05 AM
Not anymore. The DOT has frozen all vehicles currently at Motorex.

I've had a car there for two years. They aren't going anywhere until they work out the passive restraint issue on the R32's and the OBDII issue for the 96+ vehicles.

You don't really need to wash the car (I did so I could put a heavy coat of wax on it to protect it as it went seaborne...) and you can leave whatever exhaust you have on the car. They are just going to cut it up anyway....the front pipes, cat, catback are all replaced. The only thing that remains the same is the muffler.

If you have any questions regarding the military process....ask. I shipped a car through FISC Yokosuka to San Pedro under military orders. I have been through this process.


Dude don't say shit like that man. Please back that up with some info just not some hear say. DOT froze all vehicles currently at Motorex, shit I better not buy my GTR next weekend then :(

The thing about the airbags for the driver and passenger on the R33 was straight from Hiro's mouth.

Gtr2.7L
11-01-2004, 01:30 PM
This is the second time I've had to write this because the site dropped it.

The info I gave is correct. That is coming from Claude Harris, Office of Vehicle Safety and Compliance at the US Dept of Trans. They aren't allowing any cars through as they are reviewing ALL packages with a fine tooth comb as well as the original requirements set to Motorex to be in accordance with regulations.

The R32's after '91 had an airbag option. It was a self contained system....easy enough to add. Unfortunately, the airbag was never tested on the R32, so therefore, unknown to be acceptable by DOT standards.

The '95 R33 shouldn't have any problems....but because of issues with the R32's and OBDII cars, they are reviewing the legalization of R33's with a fine tooth comb asking for everything from the technical diagrams for the headlights, to airbags, to emissions, etc.

An OBDII system is under the works, and may be finished in a few months....but it is likely to be a bandaid fix and very expensive.

For more info, go over to SkylinesDownUnder; USA forums. Tyndago (Sean Morris) is there daily....as well as gsxtasee (Jason) who is using his lawyer to attempt to free up his R33.

If you have questions on other GTR-Military issues, ask.....I'm one of about eight military members who have either already done it....or are doing it now.

Honestly, I would put the money in a good money market, let it collect interest, and have a little extra at the end of the deal.

Dude don't say shit like that man. Please back that up with some info just not some hear say. DOT froze all vehicles currently at Motorex, shit I better not buy my GTR next weekend then :(

The thing about the airbags for the driver and passenger on the R33 was straight from Hiro's mouth.

vf-19j
11-01-2004, 04:07 PM
This is the second time I've had to write this because the site dropped it.

The info I gave is correct. That is coming from Claude Harris, Office of Vehicle Safety and Compliance at the US Dept of Trans. They aren't allowing any cars through as they are reviewing ALL packages with a fine tooth comb as well as the original requirements set to Motorex to be in accordance with regulations.

The R32's after '91 had an airbag option. It was a self contained system....easy enough to add. Unfortunately, the airbag was never tested on the R32, so therefore, unknown to be acceptable by DOT standards.

The '95 R33 shouldn't have any problems....but because of issues with the R32's and OBDII cars, they are reviewing the legalization of R33's with a fine tooth comb asking for everything from the technical diagrams for the headlights, to airbags, to emissions, etc.

An OBDII system is under the works, and may be finished in a few months....but it is likely to be a bandaid fix and very expensive.

For more info, go over to SkylinesDownUnder; USA forums. Tyndago (Sean Morris) is there daily....as well as gsxtasee (Jason) who is using his lawyer to attempt to free up his R33.

If you have questions on other GTR-Military issues, ask.....I'm one of about eight military members who have either already done it....or are doing it now.

Honestly, I would put the money in a good money market, let it collect interest, and have a little extra at the end of the deal.

Do you have an email address or phone number where I can contact this guy? Geeze man I've been contemplating whether to buy a R33 GTR within the last 2 weeks. I have 7 months left in Japan on the Hawk and about 4 months left in port before I actually transfer. Hopefully somewhere in San Diego, no way in hell I'm extending on the Hawk or in Japan for that matter. For those unlucky few who think comming to a ship in Japan if your in the Navy. Don't, The ships here are 3 months in 3 months out = 6 months out of a year on land, and if your on the Hawk you won't be getting off the ship any earlier than 1630. You will never see spring in japan and for the unlucky peeps miss out on summer because of the underways. Just my 2 cents.

Gtr2.7L
11-01-2004, 11:24 PM
I was actually One Main's Divo a couple years ago...I'm going back in June. I've laterally transferred, however, and won't be spending much, if any, time at sea.

When I transferred, the car had to have been in your name longer than a period of one year (I'd owned mine for almost three). Otherwise, the Navy wasn't keen on footing the bill (and that's how you get around Customs/tariffs).

If Hiro is willing to enter into a contract, and HE SIGNS and sends it to you.....you might be okay. The problem is, unlike his stateside customers, you will own the car when you send it to him.....which means if it is denied, you have to send it back to Japan.....then what do you do with it?

I went through the process with the understanding I was likely to return to Japan.....so if it didn't go down right....I would simply return, with the car, to Japan. I'll probably end up selling it to another service member while there.....but only after I've gotten another five years out of it! If it does go through, great....I have a car I can go back and forth with....works both ways.

I have the number around here somewhere....my wife is always cleaning up and has a tendency to stash all those things in different places around the house.....when I find it, I'll post it.

Do you have an email address or phone number where I can contact this guy? Geeze man I've been contemplating whether to buy a R33 GTR within the last 2 weeks. I have 7 months left in Japan on the Hawk and about 4 months left in port before I actually transfer.

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