Quick Question PPL

B16a Block
with
Block Guard
SRP pistons
4340 Eagle Rods....
Performance Rings........

With
turbo cams,
retainers,
dual valve springs,,,
vavles............... ALL Skunk

full-race gt35r turbo..........

how much boost can i use on this block......... since i have not replaced my sleeves..............

thanks in advance

You didn't mention what engine management. If it's something good like hondata, uberdata, AEM EMS, etc, you can make a ton of power on stock honda sleeves, they people you see cracking sleeves are the people that try to run too much boost on pump gas and detonate.

I am running.
AEM EMS...........
and i am on pump gas ..............

How much psi can i run safely on pump gas ...........
10???
15???
20???
25???

dont look at psi as your number, look at hp.

on a fully built block you can run pump gas up to 400whp

on a stock block you should run no more then 300whp

stock sleeves have been known to handle over 400whp as long as its tuned right.

do you have pistons, cause i noticed you just said performance rings and not any pistons.

Yes Sir,
I have SRP Pistons......

so approximately

with 9.0:1 compression

how much PSI ... will give me around 350+whp ???

Sorry for being dumb.... i am new to this stuff...

yeah i missed the piston part.

i would say around 13 or 14 psi but we cant really tell you exactly but around that. but just keep turning up the boost till you hit your goal, just make sure the motor is tuned for that much hp

i was jusy checking out the local store...
i found out that i can get aviation fuel from here...
that will ahve octance level of 110-112......
can i use this ???? does it fall under the performance fuels category ????//

yeah you can use 110-112 but you should find out if its leaded or unleaded gas because leaded gas will clog up your o2 and cat eventually. it would be better if you can find unleaded gas.

also if you tune for pump gas then run high octane gas you will run lean so make sure if you tune with pump gas, dont use race gas, if you tune with race gas dont run pump gas, make sure you have enough money to buy race gas

aviation fuel? I am no expert on airplane fuel, so don't quote me. I am only trying to offer what I have heard, so if this is different, disregard this post....

My boss @ the uphostery shop was in the navy for 8+ years, and my best friend used to be a jet engine mechanic in the air force (he developed an allergy to the fuel, etc and had to change air force jobs)...they said airplane/jet fuel is darn near keosene...I have no clue if this airplane/jet fuel is different that what you are taking about, but I would figure airplane fuel is airplane fuel..(no clue is fuel for airplanes with jet engines is different than a propellor engine...I do know that the airplane/jet fuel.if it is very different from auto gasoline and I think isn't compatible...Anyways, if it's different you can disregard my post if you like..if it isn't different but is the same, I'd be very contious using it, as I would think bad things would result...anyways thats my 2 cents, hope it helped a bit...as I said, if I am off....carry on....

my suggestion though is if you really want high octane fuel...don't mess with aviation fuel, not worth the risk of bad things...this stuff isn't made for cars and can't be good to run...use some unleaded race gas, it's made for cars...I am not sure how high of an octane you can find unleaded, though I know 100 octane is usaully pretty avilable.

U r definately right about the aviation fuel.....
i double checked...... what they r goin to give me is not Avaiation fuel..... its a place that sells aviation fuel as well...... they will be givin me 110 octance race fuel..... and it is leaded

U r definately right about the aviation fuel.....
i double checked...... what they r goin to give me is not Avaiation fuel..... its a place that sells aviation fuel as well...... they will be givin me 110 octance race fuel..... and it is leaded

Well, it's a relief to know they weren't going to give u aviation fuel. That would have been very very bad stuff.

I wouldn't mess with Leaded fuel though. Leaded fuel will screw up your O2 Sensor and ruin it, it'll mess with the cat...among other things. I'd search for the highest octane unleaded fuel you can find, and run that...if you still want to run a high octane race gas that is.

they make like 100 unleaded.

yeah its true that it will clog your cat and o2 sensor but its not like you put it in today and friday its ruined already, people have run leaded gas for over a year and there o2 is still good.

also if you only want 350whp, then 110 leaded is way too much octane for your needs, 91 octane can handle 400whp so thats below your goal of 350. if you can find mid 90s octane that would be good so you can advance your timing alittle and make a few more hp. the only thing for your hp goal with running leaded gas is being able to run mroe timing, thats it and nto have to worry about detenation but if tuned right on 91 octane you wont have to worry about detenation.

well sir...
for now i am have a whole setup for upto 680hp
but i can't put in sleeves... and i have been told that my stock sleeves are only good for upto 400hp.. thats why it is my goal for now... and off course if eveything works fine,,, i wanna take it upto atleast 550... and for goin that high i need performance fuel... even if its leaded.. its okay.. no emissions tests around here anyway ... but o2... i guess i'll replace after it glocks... but i'll take ur advice for now,,, and tune it with unleaded 90 octance

doesnt the webside say 580hp for the gt35 ?

why cant you sleeve the motor ?

also again can you afford leaded race fuel every fill up ? can you find 100 octane unleaded gas ? because 100 octane can handle lot of hp

doesnt the webside say 580hp for the gt35 ?

why cant you sleeve the motor ?

also again can you afford leaded race fuel every fill up ? can you find 100 octane unleaded gas ? because 100 octane can handle lot of hp

Yeah, civicfreak1, don't run more octane than you really need. It will cost more money, and your motor will be tuned to that octane gas. If it's tuned to 110 leaded race gas and you can't afford a tank so you throw in 91 octane premiem or 100 octane race unleaded...bad things will occur as the fuel maps, timing, etc, would all still set-up and tuned for the 110 leaded race gas. You don't need to go overkill here.

Also, why can't you re-sleeve the motor? A b16A can be re-sleeved fine. Check out AEBS or Darton Sleeves. Benson and Golden Eagle also can re-sleeve your motor with their sleeves if you are looking for a few more options. Those 4 tend to be the main companies. If it's a matter of cost, then watch out spending the $$ on race gas and tuning the motor with that. You don't want to get it all set-up for that and then be forced to run a lesser fuel octane 100 unleaded or 91 supreme street fuel. Honestly, 92 octane supreme (thats what it is around here) should be fine if you've tuned it right. Even 100 Octane unleaded race gas would be fine if you ABSOLUTLY want more octane. Unless you really intend to wack out the timing, 92 should be fine. If you need race gas though, 100 octane will work fine, and should cost less to boot. You don't want to go cheap with motors, but you don't want to go overkill, due to much, and then run out of $$ to keep it tuned or keep filling it wth high octane race gas.

get 15 PSI on pump gas with alcohol injection.



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yeah i know,.,,,, i was told i can use NOS as well..
i just added 100hp of that...
correct me if i am wrong,,,
yeah i can afford fuel... since this is not my everyday drive car... its for race use only....

with stock sleeves, you better get that motor tuned really good and get some high octane gas, like c16

I won't hurt me to get sleeves, they not even 1/8 of the amuount i am spending on the whole setup...
but no one is smart enough to install them ... around here .......... I checked out from many ppl ...
no one gurantees that they'll be able to balance.. my block and reselvee it properly.......
I am not form states ... stuck here in pakiland....
there aren;t any good performance ppl around here......... i did put in a block guard thou ??? wouldn't that help ???? ...... someone already said in this thread that stock sleeves can take upto 400hp....... does any of u have ever ran more than 400hp on stock sleeves ... with everything else installed..........

your stock sleeves can handle 400whp.

but if you detonate the stock sleeves will crack. thats the thing with aftermarket sleeves, they can take alitle bit of detonation and you dont gotta worry about them cracking, but the stock sleeves are very brittle and will crack under detonation. thats why i say you gotta tune it really good so theres no detonation at all. i would recommend running c16 for fuel also tuning it conservatiely, idk how to spell.