for all who wonder how fast the srt4 are? not faster than my z32tt!
i was crusing with a couple of z and than here comes a blue srt4 wanting to race. so he gets next to me and steps on it. he slows down waiting for me and starts revv his engine. i look at him and he gives me this look like his the bigges shit in town driving the fastest car.
so we go at it from about 25 mph. i'm in second gear and his next to me but when i switch to 3rd i easily start pulling away. when we got to the next light i was just staring at him to see if he would look at me which of course he didn't. he took a left as soon as he could to get away of the precense of the almighty Z :smokin:

nice kill man... if you'da gone from a dig you would have decimated him... fwd is for suckers!!

If you know your car is the slower of the two, don't try to be a cock jock. Its that simple. And yet this type of thing still happens.

VERY NICE KILL!!! glad to put one of those srt-4 guys in their place. i have noticed that a lot of people on this board has been racing a lot.

-Jared

VERY NICE KILL!!! glad to put one of those srt-4 guys in their place. i have noticed that a lot of people on this board has been racing a lot.

-Jared

Except for you. :D


Hell I even took the Z out and pushed it down the 1/4 last weekend. Still beat that riced out SI.

i never told you bout the wrx i raced? well, he had a bov and exhaust, and he barely pulled on me. then i raced a tiburon gt (the newest one) and beat him. raced a trans am ws6 for the hell of it and got my ass handed to me. oh, and i raced one of the new impala ss's and barely beat him. of course, this is all over the past few months.

-Jared

how bad did you beat the tiburon???

I am still waiting for the new mustang so I can race one. I am sure my NA AT 95 Z32 can beat one, but it will be close.

what new mustang? GT's run low 14's. i think the old ones run low 15's.

what new mustang? GT's run low 14's. i think the old ones run low 15's.

I think he's talking about one of the newer supercharged cobras... :rolleyes:

Nice kill, JCCR! Represent! That goes for the rest of you out there! Go kill some cars and tell us all about it! Viva Le Z!

I think he's talking about one of the newer supercharged cobras... :rolleyes:

well in that case he will get killed even worse. i was saying i dont think a n/a auto z32 will be able to take a newer mustang GT without some major mods.

Considering the weight will be comparably even and the GT is going to run a stock 300hp...yeah...might need some upgrading there.

the new pontiac GTO is also making over 300hp. more like 350hp. keep an eye open for the new gto

The new GT mustang uses the same DOHC 4.6L that its had since 96 but they've changed this or that and now it makes 300hp instead of 280 or whatever it was. The GTO has a 5.7L genIII block in it. Basically its a C5 vette engine in a Cavalier. Anyone else thinks those things are really plain?

how bad did you beat the tiburon???

i beat it pretty damn bad, probably about 4-5 car lengths. they run high 15s stock. a lot slower than i thought.

-Jared

Tiburons are a joke. Even the "GT" model only has a 2.7 V6 thats making like 180hp or something like that. The base model has a little 2L four banger puttin out 130hp. And they weigh like 3000lbs and some change. Not a performance car by any stretch of the imagination.

yeah i knew they werent nothing special, i just wanted to know how exactly they compare against a n/a z32

The new GT mustang uses the same DOHC 4.6L that its had since 96 but they've changed this or that and now it makes 300hp instead of 280 or whatever it was. The GTO has a 5.7L genIII block in it. Basically its a C5 vette engine in a Cavalier. Anyone else thinks those things are really plain?

I agree... I they could have done alot more with the body style... Too me it just looks like a souped up rwd grand-am. I cant see my myself paying $35,000 for it.
It lacks the style to match the 300+hp engine they slapped into it. the designers could have done better if it wasn't designed by someone's grandmother.

Just my thoughts.. :smokin:

Yo JCCR...you *SURE* it was an SRT-4? Despite the fact that they're Neons and FWD...both of which is pretty rough...they are pretty damn fast. Could it have been a look-alike-wannabe or even an SXT slug? A Z32TT will probably beat it anyway, but it should have done alright.

i never told you bout the wrx i raced? well, he had a bov and exhaust, and he barely pulled on me.

:grinno: Don't think so buddy...

Tiburons are weak.

The new GT mustang uses the same DOHC 4.6L

The 4.6Ls in the GTs are SOHC 4.6Ls. And...the GT mustangs are actually surprisingly light...around 3100lbs...about 300-400lbs lighter than a Z32.

The GTO has a 5.7L genIII block in it. Basically its a C5 vette engine in a Cavalier. Anyone else thinks those things are really plain?

I agree. Big engine...decent performance...looks like poop. It looks better in person than it does in pics, but it's still a far cry from anything you'd wanna write home to mom about.

:grinno: Don't think so buddy...

are you saying that the wrx should of killed me? well, it didn't, and i knew we were racing because we met in a parking lot and went to spot and stopped and i honked three times and we took off. and he was barely pulling away from me.

-Jared

Sorry man...He should have killed you. I don't know what happened, but they'll run VERY low 5s to 60 with mods...mid 5s to 60 stock...the na Z32 is not even close to that.

yes it was an srt4. it was blue and when he cut me off i was able to see srt4 on back.
yes there are fast. i saw a mustang bullet get taken by a srt4 a couple of weeks ago.

i don't know, thats why i think i have a z that is quite a bit faster than a stock n/a z. but all i know that i have aftermarket is cat-back exhaust, i still have the stock airbox, still the stock exhaust manifolds, still the stock ecu (still has nissan sticker on it).

-Jared

Sorry man...He should have killed you. I don't know what happened, but they'll run VERY low 5s to 60 with mods...mid 5s to 60 stock...the na Z32 is not even close to that.

are you referring to the STI??? everyone knows the STI hands down will beat a n/a z32. it would more than likely even take out a z32TT stock for stock.

freak...i think this is what you raced. the WRX sedan is 227 hp and 217 ft. lbs. of torque. AWD, turbocharged and intercooled boxer engine. pretty tight little bugger.
http://subaru.com/servlet/showroom?model=IMPREZA&trim=WRX_SEDAN&command=overview


you also could have raced this but i dont think it would have pulled on you. maybe AWD and lightweight abled it too but i doubt it.
http://subaru.com/servlet/showroom?model=IMPREZA&trim=25_RS_SEDAN_SPORT_PKG&command=overview

So do NA z32 run low 14's? They must if they are beating on WRX's with a few mods.

A SRT4 will run anywhere from 14.4 to 13.9 depending on year (LSD) and driver. I figure a properly running Z would take it.

GTO's are muscle cars . . . a plain car with a big motor. Vortech just came out with a supercharger bringing HP close to 500. Not bad for a conservative looking car.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/news/2004_gto.html

The new Mustang GT went to a 3 vavle per cyl (oppposed to the 2V GTs 96-04) and new intake manifold. The chasis is better as well. It is on the same platform as the Lincoln LS which is a small car.
Despite the improvements at best it will be a 13.8 or slower car.

n/a's do not run low 14's, closer to mid-low 15's.

does everyone think there is only 1 WRX offered? there are many different options. the STI happens to be the top of line. there is a a sedan model which only pumps out 227hp. also, the WRX is a rally car form of the impreza which offers another 4 different options (2 station wagon options and 2 sedan options). all of these look identical to the WRX and STI except for they are missing the big ass hood scoop that you can barely see over.

you guys are thinking that i was talking about an sti? if i did race one, i would of said that, but i only said a wrx. and j greene, i didn't beat the wrx, i said he pulled on me slowly. i still say there is some mystery left in my n/a that i don't know about.

-Jared

older mustangs run like high 14s i killed one in my celica running 14.4 with just tires and intake.

the new pontiac GTO is also making over 300hp. more like 350hp. keep an eye open for the new gto
i seen the GTO manhandled the new Z (350Z) from the start to the finish i mean totally embarressed the s**t out of the Z my advise is dont even think about messing around with one if your not producing more hp then him the dont have a Vette engine for nothing.

if i get a z wtih tt do u think i can beat my friends supercharged z28 i didnt think so but thought i ask!

well i handed a V6 accord his shit in a bag with 4peeps in my 91 civic hatch from light to light then up a hill to about 100mph it was pretty k00l course my civic isnt stock.. ;) but its definetly not as fast as a Z32 or a Z31 turbo but it is definetly as fast as my Z31 NA its a pretty fast 15sec little car but soon it will have a turbo and will produce 250hp out of a 1.6L dohc then i will race my Z31 FOR sure to see how it does...

i seen the GTO manhandled the new Z (350Z) from the start to the finish i mean totally embarressed the s**t out of the Z my advise is dont even think about messing around with one if your not producing more hp then him the dont have a Vette engine for nothing.
:eek7:
Stock-

GTO 0-60: Mid 5 sec...
6 speed 350Z: Mid 5 sec...

Umm....It'd come down to the driver...definately shouldn't be any "manhandling" going on...

I dunno what's up with the Subaru people....they have...like...6 different cars out varying from quite fast, bad ass little cars...to..."meh" WAGONS...and they're ALL THE SAME MODEL! I don't get it. If you asked someone to take some money and bring you back an Impreza, who KNOWS what you'd get.

are you referring to the STI??? everyone knows the STI hands down will beat a n/a z32. it would more than likely even take out a z32TT stock for stock.

Noooooooooooooooo no no no no no no no no....dude....It would more than LIKELY take out a Z32TT? As much as it pains me to say it, we have to be realistic...a stock Z32TT trying to take on a stock STI would ruin the Z32 guy's day...possibly even if the Z32 is lightly modded. The STIs are VERY fast cars. Regular WRXs are quite fast too. I just wish they'd make the WRX look not so plain, soccor-mom-ish...same thing with the EVO...you look at them and they just look lame...in the back of your mind, you're thinking they might be packin some heat, but you still can't help but look in the driver's side window to make sure you're not trying to initiate a race with your Grandma...

are you sure about the sti bit llz? the stock quarter for is 13.4 @100, and that's with a professional driver.. so we're talking something closer to 13.9-14.2 with most drivers out there... that's within the range of the zx tt for sure, given the driver knows what he's doing... altho, the 0-60 for the sti is 4.4 seconds which is pretty quick... most test drivers on MODIFIED sti's were hitting anywhere between 4.7 and 5.7 seconds for the 0-60.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0308scc_sti01/


aaaaaand

http://www.supercars.net/garages/ImprezaBuff/26v2.html

are you sure about the sti bit llz? the stock quarter for is 13.4 @100, and that's with a professional driver.. so we're talking something closer to 13.9-14.2 with most drivers out there... that's within the range of the zx tt for sure, given the driver knows what he's doing... altho, the 0-60 for the sti is 4.4 seconds which is pretty quick... most test drivers on MODIFIED sti's were hitting anywhere between 4.7 and 5.7 seconds for the 0-60.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0308scc_sti01/


aaaaaand

http://www.supercars.net/garages/ImprezaBuff/26v2.html


Yeah the first sight shows a STi running a 13.1. The others were 2.0L WRX not the 2.5 we are refering to. Ive seen stock a STi run 12.9. The Second sight is not the US STi, again it is the EJ20 powered STi, not as fast as the 2.5. STi run low 13's as a rule. Sorry, but out of the Z32's grasp.

And the GTO runs 13.7 to 14.0. Still pretty fast.

Yea...the GTOs are reasonable...but the way that one dude said it "manhandled"? Just...no...the GTO was modded or there was a major diff in drivers.

Yea...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1114&page_number=1

...they're really fast...especially when you think that these are friggin 4 bangers. They're like...4 cylinder muscle cars or some shit. I've heard numbers around mid-high 4 sec to 60. That's a good bit quicker than a Z32TT.

i see, altho, stock for stock the sti may beat the z32, i would hardly consider it anywhere near out of its grasp.. put it this way, you buy an sti and give me that exact amount of money to go and find a nice zx tt.. i can almost guarantee you the z will be faster ;)

edit: also, good luck finding a regular joe that can pull off those times anyway!

almost?!?!?!?!

shit you would have nearly 20k's to spend on the engine of the z32TT. lol.

well you never know, you could always go and spend the money on some goofey ass sound system and ridiculous body kit with all the bells and whistles... i'm sure i could make you a sound system that's around 10k+

if i get a z wtih tt do u think i can beat my friends supercharged z28 i didnt think so but thought i ask!

Probably not. Z28s are reasonably fast stock...slap forced induction on it and the picture changes a bit. A stock TT V6 vs a charged V8? Give the Z32 a few mods and it'd be a good race.

well i handed a V6 accord his shit in a bag with 4peeps in my 91 civic hatch from light to light then up a hill to about 100mph it was pretty k00l course my civic isnt stock.. but its definetly not as fast as a Z32 or a Z31 turbo but it is definetly as fast as my Z31 NA its a pretty fast 15sec little car but soon it will have a turbo and will produce 250hp out of a 1.6L dohc then i will race my Z31 FOR sure to see how it does...

Ok...here's a rough "Z car food chain":

Z32TT/350Z manual trans - mid to low 5s to 60
Z32TT auto trans - mid to high 5s to 60
Z31T manual trans- mid to high 6s to 60
Z32 manual trans- mid to low 7s to 60
Z32 auto trans/Z31 manual trans/Z32 2+2 manual trans- prolly low to mid 8s...9s...10s...I dunno...
Z32 2+2 auto trans- maybe a little slower than the above
Z31 2+2 doesn't even matter... - ...like...double-digits...I know they feel faster, but they're not....I used to have one.

That sound about right, guys? I'm pretty tired.

Like...the charged Z28 that was mentioned would probably be at or above the Z32TT/350Z level. I know that it's been a while since I've had my ass kicked as hard as when I messed around with that SS...I think he was charged or at LEAST modded...cuz I'm not THAT slow and he friggin walked from me. The v6 accord would probably fit in somwhere around the Z32 manual area, I guess. A stock Civic would be around the auto Z32 2+2 area. See what I'm trying here? Just trying to get a visual thing goin.

i think maybe your number started to slide a little once you got past the z31T...there is no way a civic is keeping up with my z32 2+2 auto. i have beaten many cars that a civic could not beat. i think i read somewhere that the z32 auto 2+2 is mid 7's. z32 manuals are low 7's to high 6's.

there is no comparecing! the STI is a piece of shit looking car. yes it might be a little faster than the ztt but the z looks alot better and with a few upgrades the z becomes a supercar. i havent race one yet but i'm looking forward to it.

HAHAHA i like that broke...... FINALLY THO... they quit making them damn cav's ... but now there making cobalts.... Even uglier But diff name for teh cav

Never take a knife to a gun fight....Never run out of class..

When your welling to giveup everything to put everything into your car..then you can smoke anything on wheels in your class..but you have to know your limits...to smoke vette's and viper's it takes $$$$$ and the desire. Some could care less 'bout racing and want a good looking car. The same thing goes for the one's with the show cars. If you want the best looking show car you must be welling to giveup everything for your car. As for me, my greatest thrill is smoking a hot V8. The following is a good example of desire and what $$$$$ can do.

http://www.zparts.com/showcase/engines/pages/q45v8z-testfit.html

WRX STI is abit faster then Z32TT..280hp for STI and 300hp for Z32TT..but the STI is smaller,lighter plus all whell drive...both are Japanese super cars...but i prefer the Z32TT..the WRX look like a piece of shiet

thx i no i can mod a 300 to beat his camaro all i have to do is get one :) or $7500 for this tt down the road (200 miles:(..)

The Sti Is Alot Faster Than The Z32tt

13.3 In The Quarter And 4.6 0-60 Is Almost A Second Faster Than A Z32..... Its Awd And Its Handling Is Alot Better Than The Z.

Jealousy Runs Rampant In The Nissan Scene.... Btw: I Own A Datsun 280z And Have Owned 4, Yes 4 240sxs. All I Ever Notice Is People Bashing Other Cars Because They Wish Their Car Compared To Them.

Jealousy Runs Rampant In The Nissan Scene.... Btw: I Own A Datsun 280z And Have Owned 4, Yes 4 240sxs. All I Ever Notice Is People Bashing Other Cars Because They Wish Their Car Compared To Them.

Couldnt agree more. yeah most people may not be able to hit what the magazines run in the STI, but that also means that Z drivers cant either . . . right? Just because you drive a Z doesnt make you any better then an STi driver. The US STI makes 300 hp which is what I thought everyone is refering to. right?

one more point

The first argument on who's car is better is which one is faster. If you loose that then you say mine can handle better. If you loose that then you say mine looks better. If you loose that then you say I get better HP to liter then you, but who cares. Or I get better MPG. Mine was cheaper. Mine has higher resale. Reduardless you like your car and thats why you got. Dont feel bad if there are better performing cars out there. I now drive an Escort. So what. There will always be a better car out there, unless you have a Hummer H1, Maybach, and Enzo in you garage.

nah i would take a z32TT over a hummer or a maybach. :D

this above statement futher demonstrates that is all opinionated. whatever you think is better is what is better. i have a 300zx n/a and i think it is better than a 350z eventhough the 350z kills it in every category and most people think it looks better but i dont. i personally think that the stlying of the z32 kills the 350z.

Bingo....

Your Opinion Is All That Matters. If You Care About What Other People Think You Are Really Superficial Or Are Just Plain Stupid. Why Buy Something To Appease The Masses When You'll Ultimately Be Unhappy? It Just Doesn't Make Sense...

Ohh Well To Each Their Own And Just Have Fun Thats All That Matters!

i personally think that the stlying of the z32 kills the 350z.

Yuh... the Z33 is fugly!

i see, altho, stock for stock the sti may beat the z32, i would hardly consider it anywhere near out of its grasp.. put it this way, you buy an sti and give me that exact amount of money to go and find a nice zx tt.. i can almost guarantee you the z will be faster ;)

edit: also, good luck finding a regular joe that can pull off those times anyway!

It's easier than you think to rip off insane numbers in cars like the STI cuz they're all wheel drive. There's not too much to launching them in comparison to a RWD car. You kinda sorta just rev to ~5k and dump the clutch...bad for tranny...good for times.

Anyway...don't get me wrong...the STI is definately NOT out of a Zs grasp. I'll be there soon enough. -<-Sidenote->- In fact, I went and test drove the Z31Ts daily driver replacement today...Scion Tc...VERY cool cars at an even COOLER price. I told the sales guy the Tc will never be faster than my 300 and he was kinda trying to sell me on the Stage III supercharger upgrade..."how about with the TRD Stage III supercharger they have coming out...250hp"...I laughed and told him I'm pushing around 225 right now and I haven't even done much. He shut up after that. Anyway...I highly recommend the Tc...nice cars. -<-Sidenote->- With the extra chunk of money you'd spend on the STI, you could make the Z32TT EXTREMELY fast. Don't get me wrong...I'd take a Z32TT over a WRX or EVO any friggen day...

Its Handling Is Alot Better Than The Z.

.88 lat g on the skidpad for the STI vs. the Z32TTs .91 lat g...ok, dude...

STI-http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1114&page_number=1

Z32TT-

Road and Track, Dec 89
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/r3.jpg

Wheels Magazine, Nov 1990, Austrailia-
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/d1p2.jpg

Car and Driver, Feb 92...The Z32 ties the STI in this one-
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/a4p5.jpg

Motor Trend, Apr 92-
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/a12p8.jpg

...You were saying???

Jealousy Runs Rampant In The Nissan Scene....

...You're going to come into our forum and say shit like this right after making a completely false and uneducated statement? You're kidding, right? Hit the road, kid.

"sniff... sniff" dammit llz you did it again!
:owned:

the STI is an ugly car just like the dodge neon srt4. both are ugly, look cheap and the only thing this two got going is power but no curves and style.

how many STIs do you see out on the streets? none cause they are so ugly no one wants to pay $30000 for one. only people with bad taste. :iceslolan

Thanks, Delerious.

I agree the STIs are NOT much to look at...especially for the price tag. Good performance...looks better than past WRXs...looks better in person than in pics...def no where NEAR as sexy as Z cars. Same goes for EVOs. I don't mind the SRT's look, though. I wouldn't mind having an SRT-4...but a WRX or EVO...uh uh...unless it's free...

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0307scc_stievo/

yeah you can kiss my ass.... and your forum!?, if you can read you would relize this is very much my forum also jackass.

:thefinger :flipa:

thats right!

http://www.fast-autos.net/subaru/subarusti.html .90 for the sti, and that's the lighter japanese version, i'm sure the heavier one posts lower #'s

nother one at .88
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=192

What a friggin moron. All happy cuz he found one artical that tied one of the articals I posted. You've been shown the fuck up. Either show some respect in my...yes...MY forum as in reserved for me and friends and people I respect, or hit the road.

http://ywain.penberthy.co.za/perform.html
Shut up

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2581
And shut up

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2004.html
While we're at it...notice that the STI is not as fast as the Z32TT in EVERY ARTICAL quoted on that page. (Click the above link, then click the "Stats, Articals" link.)

i think u guys are talking about the US STI version...the 2.2 litre STI right? man that car is fast..im talking about the 280hp 2.0 litre STI...0-60 in 5 sec and Z32TT 2 seater 0-60 5.2 sec...not much faster..but with an experience driver Z32TT can do 5 sec flat

2.5liter Us Sti....

And Thats The Only Magazine I Read Btw Unless You Count Super Chevy Or Popular Hot Rodding.

Your Forum.... How Is This Your Forum? I Very Much Own A Z Jackass, So This Is Our Forum.

It Also Helps If You Show The Superior Us Version Of The Car... Two You Have To Make Sure All The Tests Are The Same... Three I Have Never Ever Seen A Stock Ttz Do 13.2 Being The Over Weight Pig That It Is... Four You Can Talk To The Guys A Vivid Racing Who Are Heavy Tuners For The Sti And Evo What They Think Of The Sti... Five You Obviously Are Extrmemly Biased Towards Nissan And The Z In General Which Is Stupid, But Whatever When You Get Your Ass Handed To You By A Sti Because Your Nissan Super Hicas Fucks Up Like Always Or Your 3800lbs (Z31) Steel Sled Can't Turn For Shit Don't Cry....

whoa whoa whoa calm down...where are you getting these statistics about the z32TT? i think your anger is interferring with your thinking abilities.

check this out.

z32TT weighs in at 3200-3300lbs. i dont know where you got 3800.

super hicas is a well designed and very useable and helpful part of your car. the problem comes when people that dont know how to drive it try and drive it hard with hicas and they dont know how its going to act.

why are we comparing a car that is 16 year old technology compared to a car that is 3 year old technology? you cant.

back to the overweight issue. im guessing you think a skyline is the best and fastest car ever made but what you dont know is that it weighs in at about the same as the z32TT. potential of the z32TT is enormous. STI, it is damn near its limits from the factory.

Your 3800lbs Steel Sled Can't Turn For Shit Don't Cry....
WTF are you talking about??? that is why the z32 is one of the preferred cars of JGTC??? oh...wait you dont really know anything about the z32. "cant turn for shit" who the f*** does this kid think he is???

i suggest that next time you come into a forum bashing the car that forum is based off of you atleast know a little bit about the car, instead of making numbers up off the top of your head. take your ass to the subaru forum. you dont deserve a Z or any nissan for that matter.

Actually I Don't Like Skylines Just The Motors.... Seeing As I've Had Five Of Them.

I Was Reffering To The Z31 On The Weight.... Thats What My Buddies Weighed In At All Stock With A Full Tank. And Hicas Is Crap.... I've Driven A 240 With It And A Z32 With It, It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear. Haha Don't Deserve A Nissan.... I'm Bashing Stupid People Who Elitests Thinking There Car Is Best. Nissan Forums Like All Others Are Riddled With Them. Who The Hell Are You To Decide What I Deserve? I've Worked Hard For My Z And Put All My Money Time And A Quite A Few Pints Of Blood In It Also.... But Do You See Me Saying My Cars Is Better Than Other Cars, Nope! I'm Happy With My Car And Thats All That Matters.

And The Z32 Is Still Just As Over Weight As Most Of The Old Technology Japanese Sports Cars.

The Sti Is At Its Limits? Its Got 8.2 To 1 Compression... Its Got A World Of Opportunities And Thats Why There Is A 500 Awhp Sti Here In Az Running 10.5s On Stock Wheels And Tires.

The Z32 Is Nothing In The Jgtc... It Was Outmatched 1 Year After Its Arrival On That Racing Circuit.

Only becuase of the JGTCs funky weight rules. It wasnt out matched it was slowed down. Even the new Z33 350Z runs the VQ30DETT (varient on the VG30DETT) And is doing quite strongly in the 500 class. Now lets think about calming down.

Musicsurfman you are partialy right, there is alot of bickering in the Nissan scene, but there is in EVERY car scene, from Audi to Volvos. Everyone would like to think their "whip" is the best on the road. And they get very offended or jealous when they see someone else has put more time and money or in better places than they did into their car. Therefore makeing it faster and better than what they have. Its human instinct to envy what we dont have.

I'll Agree With The Z33 Being One Of The Top Cars In Jgtc And Whole Heartedly Support Nissans Decision To Drop The Skyline From Their Lineup.

And By Its Class Rules It Was Outmatched, Being Pair With The Rx-7 And Supras (while Unfair) Outmatched The Abilities Of The Car And It Serverly Suffered Leading To Dominance Of The Skyline For Nissan In Jgtc.

Every Car Group Does Have Its Loyalties But With Nissans It Seems Everyone Even Hates On Other Nissans. Whatever My Point Has Been Made As Were Yours... I Still Feel You People Being Biased Is Down Right Childish But Too Each There Own.

And Just Think.... If They Never Merged Our Forums You Would Never Have To Hear From Me.

Actually I Don't Like Skylines Just The Motors.... Seeing As I've Had Five Of Them.

I Was Reffering To The Z31 On The Weight.... Thats What My Buddies Weighed In At All Stock With A Full Tank. And Hicas Is Crap.... I've Driven A 240 With It And A Z32 With It, It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear.
And The Z32 Is Still Just As Over Weight As Most Of The Old Technology Japanese Sports Cars.

since when did z31's weigh 3800 lbs??? your buddy must be one fat sob with a huge competition sound system to get the car to gain 800 lbs... since when did HICAS come on 240's?? i've never heard of that before, then again.. i haven't been listening. i think you need to take a few good long steps back son and look at the big picture... you're attempting to compare a car that's around 3 years old and costs around $30,000 to a car that's coming up on 15 years old and can run as low as 7.5k for a decent condition tt. Now, give someone that 22.5 Thousand dollars (22500) to modify the Zed and then we'll see who has the faster car.. in conclusion... stop comparing apples to speakers.. it just doesn't work

how were we being biased? i think everyone of us agreed that the STI was the faster car. WTF.

i think delerious covered everything that i was gonan say.

The Z31 Is All Stock.... Thats The Number We Got On The Junkyard Scale...

Not Everyone Is In Agreance That Number Wise The Sti Outperforms The Z.

Hicas Came On The Super Hicas 240sxs In 1991-1993, They Also Came With Vlsd.

We Are In Comparison Of Stock For Stock.... If You Want To Go Dollar For Dollar My 280z Which I Got For $150 Will Be Alot Faster And Better Handling (than The Z32 And Sti) In The End If I Invest $29,850 In It.

YOU CAN'T COMPARE A CAR THAT'S 15 YRS OLD TO ONE THAT'S 3 YEARS OLD STOCK TO STOCK it just doesn't work!!! maybe find me a 15 yr old subaru performance model and then compare it to the zed, that would be a fair comparison

YOU CAN'T COMPARE A CAR THAT'S 15 YRS OLD TO ONE THAT'S 3 YEARS OLD STOCK TO STOCK it just doesn't work!!! maybe find me a 15 yr old subaru performance model and then compare it to the zed, that would be a fair comparison


You are right which makes me wonder why people are talking about how much a used Z32 runs for. That being said you cant really compare the car and try to say it is 23000 cheaper. What were they going for at the time? The Z32 is a nice sports car, even for todays standards. Just dont compare price on a car made over 10 years ago plus 'x' amount of moeny toward modifacations. A better comparison is the STi and 350Z, but this isnt the forum for it.

i think a better idea would be to find subaru's #1 performance car in america at the time of 90-96 then compare it to the z32... i'm too lazy to go look, would someone care to?

Its The 2.5rs And To Do That Would Yeild Z As The King Now If You Said A J-spec Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Verse A Z32 The Z Would Be Obliterated And Has Been.

Holy God...Wes, please help us out here...this is rediculous. We're not biased...we just know the facts...Me, Delerious, Broke, K3, Stealth, Freak, Samhain...all of us that call this forum our "home" on AF...we aren't here cuz we owe the Z something or cuz we feel like we need to be here, we're here because we truely believe that these are some of the best sports cars that have ever been built...or as Motor Trend said in 1990, "Dollar for dollar, the best damn sports car ever built." So either show some respect, quit saying rediculously stupid shit, and quit being so stubborn or find another forum to disrupt.

The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.

And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?

I too have NEVER heard of 240s coming with HICAS in the US. Prove it, beotch before I pull out the BS flag and own your ass again. Even if they did at some point, you obviously still know NOTHING about the HICAS system.

It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear.

It turns the rear wheels a max of ~3 degrees and it's all speed and turning angle dependant. All these stories of it running guys into the wall at drag strips and so on are just complete bullshit. They're just an excuse (a bad one at that) for shitty driving or a screw up. If you believe that shit, you're a moron.

The Z32 is a nice sports car, even for todays standards. Just dont compare price on a car made over 10 years ago plus 'x' amount of moeny toward modifacations.

What's wrong with that? I know what you're saying, but we aren't paying the retail price for the car when it was new now. It's not hard at all to find a Z32TT in good condition for 12-15K. If you give me 33K or whatever for a car and someone else 33K for an STI, he spent all his, why couldn't I spend all mine? That would leave me ~20K for mods.

Everyone would like to think their "whip" is the best on the road.

Which is all fine and dandy...it's when you get all bent out of shape and start making up arguments and stats that you get beyond the realm of reasonable. There's nothing at all wrong with having a calm, civil argument with someone...it's one way to learn. I've learned a lot about mustangs in this manner. But when you start saying such rediculous, unfounded, completely wrong things such as "the Z31 weighs 3800lbs"...come on...prove that. I've given references (more than one in most cases) for damn near every stat I've given, so quit being stubborn.

Its The 2.5rs And To Do That Would Yeild Z As The King Now If You Said A J-spec Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Verse A Z32 The Z Would Be Obliterated And Has Been.

the point is, at the time, the Zed was better than the subaru. now if there was a modern day z32 made here in america, i'm sure the specs would be out of this world if nissan directed all it's efforts at performance. now you may say the 350z is what i'm getting at, but no, it isn't. the 350z is more of a nice quick touring car than an all out race machine. also, it's an n/a motor.. slap a tt kit on there and you're making 420+ rwhp (dyno proven, i have a movie clip of it if you don't believe me) that more than takes it up into the 1/4 times of the sti. anyway, i'm done bickering.. i've got better things to do... like stare at a wall.

I highly doubt that Nissan will ever go for a extreme high performance Z like they did with the Z32 due to cost. That was what brought the Z32s demise...they were INCREDIBLE cars, but you also had to pay an INCREDIBLE price for them. That's why the new Z isn't an all out, hard core performance car. They did a very good job of keeping the performance there while keeping the price down...which is what they did.

i've got better things to do... like stare at a wall.

That rules. Love the new Z31 Pic...nice clean Z, man.

thanks llz, i like it too :p and i haven't washed that thing in a few days too, that colour is the best for hiding dirt for sure... the water you see is from me hosing out my radiator... the thing looked like one big wall of dirt it was so freaking clogged..

http://www.carsurvey.org/modelyear_Nissan_240SX_1991.html

the 3800lb car is my friends... he weighed his car when I weighed my 240sx rb swap. His car was completely stock (unless you count lighter wheel wheels) with a full tank of gas.

Shut your yapping... The Z rules and there are not many cars out there that can beat a highly modded Z TT let alone a stock one!

musicsurfman: STFU! Take your WRX and shove it, you cretin!

the only thing the sti has on the Z is the all wheel drive. besides that, how many times are you gonna race from a stopping point.
been that the ZS lates year model was the 1996 comparing it to the STI which is over five years diff in tech it would be fair to do bolt ons.the ZTT will be around 400hp that would whoop the STI

there is a guy around my hood that has an STI but everytime he sees me coming for some reason he always make a quick turn to get a way.

the only thing the sti has on the Z is the all wheel drive. besides that, how many times are you gonna race from a stopping point.
been that the ZS lates year model was the 1996 comparing it to the STI which is over five years diff in tech it would be fair to do bolt ons.the ZTT will be around 400hp that would whoop the STI

there is a guy around my hood that has an STI but everytime he sees me coming for some reason he always make a quick turn to get a way.

The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.

And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?


i got the weight of the z32TT from the sticky wes had made about zed specifications. according to that the z31 also weighs just above 3,000lbs. not the lightest cars but they are definitely not a metal sled that cant turn worth shit. also, for the day and age the car really isnt that heavy, beings in 1990 and 1984 they didnt exactly have the technology to build cars just as strong but lighter.

I Don't Have A Wrx....

My Z Would Probably Beat A Highly Modified Tt Z32, But This Isn't About My Car.

A Wrx On A Track Would Blow The Doors Of A Z Car.

maybe...good for it. a 3 year old car design built for top performance can beat a 16-20 year old car design built for performance along with luxury. why do you come in a past z car forum and bash the z that was built 20 years ago to a car that is basically brand spanking new with the newest technology? makes you look stupid when you say things like the z cant handle and it weighs 3800lbs and that hicas screws up everytime you turn the wheels. WTF???

i dont think anyone here has or had the intention to bash the STI because most people here know that it is a very fast and powerful car but we also know that the z is very fast and powerful. we didnt go say things like well the STI sucks because it has 4 doors and it cant take turns because it has all wheel drive. because those things wouldnt be true. next time i would advise you to atleast research the cars that your bashing so you dont sound like an dumbass. we dont take kindly to people bashing the z let alone people bashing the z with false accusations.

i agree with k3.. know your stuff or keep it shut, if i were a mod i would have banned you by now, but that's wes' decision not mine. nobody said the sti sucks, some just said it looks like grandma ass, which i agree. where the sti is more powerful than the z, it will never..ever touch the z's grace and sleek lines

The sooby is a good car, and great for those who need AWD and performance. But its not a sports car. Its a Sports Sedan four door at that. Its a great car more so considering its coming from the company thats only good car has been the WRX/Impreza line. And their only selling car..... The Z32 on the other hand like all Z's are what the japanese call practical performance machines. They have room to carry stuff in the boot/hatch and yet they are quick and handle better than most cars in their price year range. Even to this day the Z car is considered to be the best all around packege to come out of Japan. I have driving both the STI and the Z32, Both have their draws, but the STI drives like a FF(front engine frontwheel drive) car. This is not something that I look for in a car. I got tired of understeer with my Escort, I wanted something that in a pinch I could turn a 3 point turn into a 1 single bootlegger. The STI I felt that I sat to high in the car, almost like driving a XC90 from Volvo, and that the hood scoop was sort of ubstructing, but yet it wasnt as bad on the regular WRX. It had great excelleration from the line and a decent power band for a 2.5L. I didnt like the Transmission it was a pain to get it into first when downshifting from second. Also its first gear felt sloppy, almost like a Saturns transaxle MT. There was too much stick play with the car in first gear, you couldnt feel if you were in gear, not a big grabber for me. Sorry but the Soobie is a great car if thats what your into but it wasnt for me, or for many others on this forum. Sorry to come down on you but you DO need to chill its just peoples opinion, if you dont like them then ignore them. Simple as that.

How Does A Rear Biased Awd Car Drive Like A Ff Car? Have You Even Tried Adjusting The Center Differential? And One I've Driven Every Z Body Style Out So Far And They Are All Great Cars Thats Why I Own One Of The Originals Hell I Just Bought Two More (a 73 And A 77)..... But My Point Was Nissan Fanboy Jealousy, I Love Nissans I'll Always Own One... And The Best Part Of This Whole Debate Is That Fact That I Doubt That Any Of You People Realise It But The Subaru Design Is Mostly Nissan Parts And A Nissan System. I Was Just Getting You People Wild Just To Piss You People Off.... I've Loved The Z's Since I've Driven Them And I'll Continue To Love Them.

i would suggest you not do it again or it could result in some unpleasant circumstances

WRX a sports Sedan? No....! Sorry... I like the Scooby-Sube too... don't get me wrong! I'd rather have a Z TT but I will probably end up getting a WRX wagon sometime down the line... I'm not being biased when I say that the WRX is not a true Sports Sedan... just like the whole arguement about the Z32 being a 'Super Car'... they are both good cars in their own ways...

when i was looking for a new ride, i tought about the STI. i remember when i drove to see one at the dealer. i was very dissapointed to see that the car look like a box. i didn't even wanted to drive it!

i guess its a powerfull car from what i read but the Z is also very powerfull and looks alot better.

WRX a sports Sedan? No....! Sorry... I like the Scooby-Sube too... don't get me wrong! I'd rather have a Z TT but I will probably end up getting a WRX wagon sometime down the line... I'm not being biased when I say that the WRX is not a true Sports Sedan... just like the whole arguement about the Z32 being a 'Super Car'... they are both good cars in their own ways...


Uh what is a sports sedan? I am thinking a 4 door car (sedan) that can perfrom well (sports). What is the STi? Now if you were refering to a touring sedan ok yeah, the STi is not.

My opinion:

STi is better if you have the money and do not like questionable used cars or paying for repairs/parts. NEW/EXPENSIVE

Z32 is better is you need a cheaper car and dont mind paying for the repairs/parts. OLD/CHEAP (nothing wrong with that)

Sti is faster stock for stock. However . . .

Both cars potential is too close to say one is a clear cut winner.

Its bad when two cars are being compared and the price is what the deciding factor is. A car can beat you reguardless of what they paid for it, you still loose. So do you hate on the Enzo cause the driver paid too much? Money not being an option I would like to think that the Z or STi would not be at the top of anyones list, but money is a factor for some. Is another car less of a car because it cost more? Or is it just not practical for you? Dont argue how much you would spend on a car. is what I am saying.

The Sti Is Considered By Most Insurance Companies As A High Performance Sedan Or Touring Car.

Money Not A Factor I Would Still Take A S30 Baby, Well That And A Ferrari 355 Gts-f1 And A Mclaren F1.

Well I guess it's time to settle this bullshit. I have a 13 year old Zed32TT that's been upgraded to 2004 performance and I'll personally challange any Sti in the country. I also know a Jap fellow and a guy in Puerto Rico that has one similar to mine that's even alittle faster than mine, and NO fuckin Sti in the world runs in the low 7's. That's 7 in the 1/4, not 0-60. I deal in facts, not bullshit. Any time you take a car that's 10 years old and I don't care which brand it is, it's old, and unless the owner upgrades it, it remains old. Like I said, I have a updated Z32TT that I'll put up against anything except another updated Z32TT and smoke them. The fact of the matter is the Z32 in Pro Import is #1, #2 and #3. I see no mention of a Sti in there anyplace, or a Toy or Honda. The RX7 close but not close enough.
It would be like comparing a Ford Pinto to a 1930 Model A Ford. No contest, but take the model A and update it and drop a 460 Cobra Jet in it and watch out, cause it'll rip you a new ass.
The 300ZX Z32 was and is one of the top 5 Engineered cars ever built. Not my pick but by automotive engineers from around the world, and to this day hasn't been removed from that list. That itself speaks for the design and engineering that went into it. That honor only goes to very few. Nissan has 4-5 350Z's in Calif. the the head of there Special Operations Group have built with the VK45DETT engines (I don't want to hear any shit that Nissan don't have a VK45DETT) w/5 speed automatics. I don't know if they plan on marketing it or what but if they do, the Viper's, Cobras and Vette's better watch out. But that too won't last long cause no one likes to be beat, which is great, cause we, being us as consumers reap the benefits.
But for right now as we speak and that could all change tomarrow, I know of 3 updated 2004 standard Zed32's for the right amount of money and expenses would take on any Sti, but the owners of them aren't stupid and the offer we'll never be taken up on.
Apples for apples boys. All's fair in love and racing.

For What It Would Take A Z32 To Go 7's You Can Make An Awd Sti Do It.... Hell In Japan There Are 7 Second Drag Stis Not The New Ones Because They Don't Have Those But Stis Of A Closer Year 98-99.

The Vk45 Has Been Turbo'd For Awhile And Nismo Also Has A Supercharged Version For The Titans That They Have Slated To Come Out Sometime Next Year.

I'm Not Arguing That They Aren't Fast I'm Saying Stock For Stock There Is No Comparison.

Any Car With Money Put In It Could Be Fast... Hell They Have 10 Second Geos And 9 Second Minivans.

And I Would Love To See Your 7 Second Z32.... That Should Be Interesting.

I have a 13 year old Zed32TT that's been upgraded to 2004 performance and I'll personally challange any Sti in the country. I also know a Jap fellow and a guy in Puerto Rico that has one similar to mine that's even alittle faster than mine, and NO fuckin Sti in the world runs in the low 7's. That's 7 in the 1/4

Just wondering...you have a Z32TT running 7s?

if i were a mod i would have banned you by now

Good to know I'm not the only one. Like I said before...Hey Wes...help us out here, buddy?

I Was Just Getting You People Wild Just To Piss You People Off....

:banhim:

K3...it's all good...weights of cars vary...I got my spec from an issue of Road and Track (or car and driver or motor trend or whatever). Care to see it, lemme know. My point is just that they really are quite heavy cars but you could never know by driving it.

http://www.carsurvey.org/modelyear_...240SX_1991.html

the 3800lb car is my friends... he weighed his car when I weighed my 240sx rb swap. His car was completely stock (unless you count lighter wheel wheels) with a full tank of gas.

Ok...your link shows a BUNCH OF 240'S!! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, MORON!? Even if you DO know someone who has a 3800lb Z31, SO WHAT? There's no WAY all Z31s weigh MORE THAN A Z32! A LOT more, at that.

Tell me where to go weigh my car, and I'll go right the fuck now...I'd be more than happy to own your ass again.

In the mean time, I did a search on Z31.com...here are the results I found:

84 2+2 - 3080lbs.......without spare/toolkit. (Seems kinda low to me.)
'86 T - 3202lbs........w/ driver and low fuel level.
1988 SS - 3450 with 180lb driver and 1/2 tank gas. (Seems a little high to me.)
One person said ~3100lb and another said 3262.

So...you are WAAAAAAAAY the fuck off with the 3800lbs.

No matter what, I don't care if Mr. K himself came to me and told me that a stock Z31 weighs 3800 lbs, I'd still say no fuckin way.

My Link Was In Response To Your Dumbasses Saying There Is No Superhicas 240sx.....

If You Banned Me I'd Just Go To My 240sx Bretheren And Get Back In, And Anyway I Could Careless If I Got Banned Seeing As This Forum Doesn't Ip Ban And I'm On A Secured Business Network With Ip Scramble I Could Just Add A Name For Every Day Of The History Of Earth And Still Get In.

Sweet...All the more reason to BAN YOUR ASS...

this guy is worse than my wife!!

Lol. Ban Him!!!

That's 7 in the 1/4, not 0-60. I deal in facts, not bullshit.

The fact of the matter is the Z32 in Pro Import is #1, #2 and #3. I see no mention of a Sti in there anyplace, or a Toy or Honda. The RX7 close but not close enough.



Any followup on the 7 sec Z? I guess there is also 7 second Cavaliers and Grand AMs (NHRA). I have also seen 200 mph Taurus (NASCAR). An all out 7 sec drag car is no longer anything resembling the original.
One other point how many WRC has the Z32 won? Anyone every take their Z out in the dirt? I am not arguing I just hope you see the point in all of this. A real question though, What is Pro Import? Really I have no idea what is it?

7 sec? thats bullshiet man

i have never heard of a 7sec Z32TT. I heard that SGP has one of the fastest z and runs around 10sec in the 1/4 mile.

I am glad I am not the only one that smelled that. Who knew that the worlds fastest Z was in Mexico?

Who are you guys to call BS?

i'm not calling BS on nobody is just that i have never heard of a z32tt running 7sec 1/4 mile!

Never?

http://escort-us.com/images/NHRA.JPG

Nissan VG30DETT 3.2l engine 1200+ RWHP
Escort Racing Pistons and Camshafts
Motec Fuel Management System
East-West Engineering Clutch
Mickey Thompson Drag Slicks
Willie Rells Racecars Chassis
Lenco 5-Speed Transmission
Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
Mark Williams Rear End
Race Pack Data Logger
Richmond Pinion Gear
Torco MPZ Racing Oil
Browell Bellhousing
Monocoque Wheels
Deist Safety Chute
KKK Turbochargers
Moroso Oil Sump
MSD Ignition

7 seconds.... easy!

thats nice to know. i tough he ment like a daily dirver.

For all you calling me BS. In fact two of those cars are now in the high 6's.
Show me where I posted I had the fastest Zed in the world. Last year I was ranked 3rd with a best time of 7.88 sec. This year I'm not ranked as been taking of other things and not taking the time. The next time you call me BS, I'll *insert hollow threat here*
If you can read you'll notice that the first two cars in the 2003 Players list are in PRO IMPORT class

http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_drag_lists/drag_lists.html

Now for your claim that SGP has one of the fastest Zed's, it's a good one but no prize today. Here's a NA that runs in the 9's when this was written he was running in the 10's

http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_photos/_20030524/page_01.htm

Edited by Wes for content

come down playboy! when this thread started we were all talking about street racing. so thats why i said that i have never heard of a car running 7 seconds in a 1/4 mile. and i'm still talking about street racing! in another words a daily driver. you were talking about drag racing but what i meant was that SGP has the fastest daily driver. know thats what i'm talking about! a car that you can drive when ever you want and take on anybody anytime anyday of the week.

i meant no disrespect but it seems like we were talking about two diferent things.


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OK so those are Z's right. . .? They have a motor resembling a Z and the lines look like a Z, but that is not a Z. I guess if that is a Z then civics are better then Z's right? I mean Steph ran a 6.7 in his AEM civc.(sarcasm for those who think I am serious) All out drag cars are not the meassure of a great car.

What series is Pro-Import in? Is that even a class still?

OK so those are Z's right. . .? They have a motor resembling a Z and the lines look like a Z, but that is not a Z. I guess if that is a Z then civics are better then Z's right? I mean Steph ran a 6.7 in his AEM civc.(sarcasm for those who think I am serious) All out drag cars are not the meassure of a great car.

What series is Pro-Import in? Is that even a class still?


Sorry Charlie I have one of those cars and it has the original body and doors that work and a few carbon parts, the engine is a VG30DE. It don't have A/C and the last time I looked the Cruise Control was missing. Your the one talking shit about me. Bring on your 6.7 Civic's. Seems they never show up for the Nationals. Whatever drag cars are a measure of don't be putting crap on me. As for which sactioning body has Pro Import class, try IDRC, NHRA and NIRA. I hear all these magic numbers but non can back it up with any major event win. Many tracks pad the times to draw a crowd, but never at the Nationals. Thats why these magical rockets never show up for the Nationals. Besides you have to earn a spot in the Nationals, you just don't show up claiming you have a fast car. Rules are setup by the sactioning bodys for classes and mfg. of a car. Their main intress is safety, so in the higher speed class's because of the speed are allowed to remove the interiors to place roll cages in them. In these class's a drag chute is required to aid in stopping. Last year my car was #3 in the nation and I earned that spot, and not by doing some promo for any track to boost attendence. I have a car in the National HotRod Museum. It earned that spot.That's why most racing body's require a backup run within a certain time limit when World records or records are being established.
This car my friend set 6 World FIA records, broke more than 50 track records, Won 1st place in the Oakland Roadster Show as the Worlds most beautiful dragster, and now sits in a museum. You earn these spots and not by doing commericals or promo's for some company selling hedders or nitrous kits, you earn these spots by winning. It's an insult when someone who hasn't payed their dues tell's me my car isn't a Zed, only looks like one.

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/7607/12925.jpg

yeah that was the pic i was talking about gringo. thats yours that sits in that museum or thats your buddy's, i got a little confused.

yeah that was the pic i was talking about gringo. thats yours that sits in that museum or thats your buddy's, i got a little confused.

It was, I gave it by request to Wally Parks when I went to Korea, knowing it would be outdated when I got back, and my Dad didn't want to store it in his garage. Ed and his brother Dick? and a guy Butler, don't remember the names I'll have to go and see if I can find out the names, built it and I owned it and drove it for 3 years then gave it to the 3 guys when I went into flight training and they run it for a year and wanted to put it in my Dad's garage. He said no way so I had Ed Cortipassi (sp) give it to the museum. My sister downloaded that picture for me for my birthday and it almost made me cry. That was the first time i'd seen the car for 48 years. She got the picture in the National Hotrod mag. story about cars from the past.

oh i see.

Woah... This is one of those fun threads :D

Every calm down... No more talk of pissing down eachothers windpipes ok? :lol:

Lets stay on the topic at hand.

-Wes

Woah... This is one of those fun threads :D

Every calm down... No more talk of pissing down eachothers windpipes ok? :lol:

Lets stay on the topic at hand.

-Wes

Sorry Wes, Got carried away with people making statments without facts and direct attacts on me.

Now for your claim that SGP has one of the fastest Zed's, it's a good one but no prize today. Here's a NA that runs in the 9's when this was written he was running in the 10's

YES BUT THAT Z IS NOT A DAILY DRIVER!! AND WITH ALL THAT NOS ANYBODY CAN CLAIM THOSE NUNBERS.

AND NONE OF THE CARS BELOW ARE FASTER THAN THE ONE I POSTED
http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_drag_lists/drag_lists.html


EASE ON THE DOSAGE!!
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you must be one of those old mans that take hormone shots to keep you going! i stated my facts and i'm not talking shit.

You must be one of those kids that takes drugs so you can deal with life. You didn't state facts, only your opinion, and I feel sorry for you, as you don't know fact from fiction. Too many drugs.


YES BUT THAT Z IS NOT A DAILY DRIVER!! AND WITH ALL THAT NOS ANYBODY CAN CLAIM THOSE NUNBERS.

I don't know if it's a daily driver or not. Do you know that for a fact? Can you claim those numbers? I can't, I don't have a NA Zed32.

AND NONE OF THE CARS BELOW ARE FASTER THAN THE ONE I POSTED
http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_drag_lists/drag_lists.html

You must also have a reading problem along with your drug habit. If you can't read the above web page have someone who went beyond the 3rd grade to read it to you. By my count there 4 cars that went faster than 10.44 seconds in the 1/4. And if you'd read the specs. on Kyle's car you'd see he has a Nitrous Express Direct Port injection system. Hmmmmmm. Maybe he just doesn't have enough NITROUS. Wait a minute, a 3.3 stroker, Oversize SS valves a custom intake manifold w/90 mm throttle bodys. According to your thinking, that isn't even a VG30DETT engine. Let's go on, a Powerglide transmission and a 9" Ford rear end. When did Nissan start using these items? Wow, that isn't even a Z32. It only appears to be one, by your thinking. The fact of the matter is the only thing original is part of the body.

EASE ON THE DOSAGE!!
http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/kyl93nis30.html


Mines a almost daily driver, the only reason it isn't is I have 8 cars and a truck. Have to give them all equal time. Your trying to tell me Kyle don't have all that shit. You have more excuses and BS than any on this board I've ever seen.
You should start a thread where you can post your BS and quit cluttering good threads with your crap.

JCCR your teetering on 'that edge' buddy...

I've edited your post, and if you post in this fashion again, we'll move to the next step.

Zgringo apologized, and you kept it going. Dont do it again.

-Wes

I Wish I Could Take Drugs To Deal With Life.lol ,yeah I Take Drugs To Make Me Feel Good, So The Doc. Said!
This Is My Thread And If You Didn't Like It You Should Of Never Posted It!

You Express Your Self With Big Words Old Man But If Your Were In Front Of Me I Would Make You Eat All Your Words.

Who Gives A Fuck About Your Old Cars And Your Past Life! Is Just As Boring And Old As Your Are!! So Keep Your Personal Shit To Your Self And Stick With The Thread Next Time.

And About Your Post I Didn't Ever Bother To Read It! I Tought I Was Gonna Be One Of Your Long Old Bs Stories!

Hup... You'll be banned by tonight... Thanks for playing, and lets have a round of applause for our contestents.

-Wes

Wes, He Kept Going 2! And I Didnt Know Tht I Was At The Edge Since We Posted Around The Same Time But If You Think I'm Guilty! I Accept My Punishment. And Sorry For The Trouble.

... Ah screw it... No ban... Just drop it! And dont start it up again.

-Wes

Slightly off topic:

I like how this\/
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/customavatars/avatar182686_7.gif
is the undying face of authority around here.

Thanks Wes!

Sorry About That Zgringo And I Do Take Prescription Drugs To Calm Me Down

My Link Was In Response To Your Dumbasses Saying There Is No Superhicas 240sx.....

If You Banned Me I'd Just Go To My 240sx Bretheren And Get Back In, And Anyway I Could Careless If I Got Banned Seeing As This Forum Doesn't Ip Ban And I'm On A Secured Business Network With Ip Scramble I Could Just Add A Name For Every Day Of The History Of Earth And Still Get In.

Sorry guys... I just found this dudes posts... If I was in here while that was happening, I would have done something. All apologies.

-Wes

Slightly off topic:

I like how this\/
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/customavatars/avatar182686_7.gif
is the undying face of authority around here.

Hahahaha... Hey Im a sarcastic guy. Maybe I should just put a smiley in my avatar... Hmmmm... * starts copying URL location of a smiley to left of screen... Relizes how gay it is... Relizes Broke is a punkass :D *

-Wes

Relizes Broke is a punkass*

Dur :thumbsup:

zgringo . . . I believe my point missed its target. Let me try this then. Mustangs are better the Z's because the drag cars run faster in the 1/4 and there are more of them. If this rubs you the wrong then reevaluate your argument from earlier. All shit talking aside I prefer a Z over a Mustang, but you can not say one is better based on professionally built darg cars.

Can we close this ****ing thread already?

Can we close this ****ing thread already?

Agreed

Fuck yea dude... This shits closed.

-Wes