z32tt vs dodge srt4


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JCCR
10-05-2004, 09:09 PM
for all who wonder how fast the srt4 are? not faster than my z32tt!
i was crusing with a couple of z and than here comes a blue srt4 wanting to race. so he gets next to me and steps on it. he slows down waiting for me and starts revv his engine. i look at him and he gives me this look like his the bigges shit in town driving the fastest car.
so we go at it from about 25 mph. i'm in second gear and his next to me but when i switch to 3rd i easily start pulling away. when we got to the next light i was just staring at him to see if he would look at me which of course he didn't. he took a left as soon as he could to get away of the precense of the almighty Z :smokin:

DeleriousZ
10-05-2004, 09:14 PM
nice kill man... if you'da gone from a dig you would have decimated him... fwd is for suckers!!

Broke_as_****
10-05-2004, 09:16 PM
If you know your car is the slower of the two, don't try to be a cock jock. Its that simple. And yet this type of thing still happens.

freakonaleash1187
10-05-2004, 09:16 PM
VERY NICE KILL!!! glad to put one of those srt-4 guys in their place. i have noticed that a lot of people on this board has been racing a lot.

-Jared

Broke_as_****
10-05-2004, 10:17 PM
VERY NICE KILL!!! glad to put one of those srt-4 guys in their place. i have noticed that a lot of people on this board has been racing a lot.

-Jared

Except for you. :D


Hell I even took the Z out and pushed it down the 1/4 last weekend. Still beat that riced out SI.

freakonaleash1187
10-05-2004, 10:44 PM
i never told you bout the wrx i raced? well, he had a bov and exhaust, and he barely pulled on me. then i raced a tiburon gt (the newest one) and beat him. raced a trans am ws6 for the hell of it and got my ass handed to me. oh, and i raced one of the new impala ss's and barely beat him. of course, this is all over the past few months.

-Jared

k3smostwanted
10-05-2004, 11:51 PM
how bad did you beat the tiburon???

Hodo
10-06-2004, 01:44 PM
I am still waiting for the new mustang so I can race one. I am sure my NA AT 95 Z32 can beat one, but it will be close.

k3smostwanted
10-06-2004, 02:13 PM
what new mustang? GT's run low 14's. i think the old ones run low 15's.

HAVOK_Z32
10-06-2004, 04:44 PM
what new mustang? GT's run low 14's. i think the old ones run low 15's.

I think he's talking about one of the newer supercharged cobras... :rolleyes:

1viadrft
10-06-2004, 04:51 PM
Nice kill, JCCR! Represent! That goes for the rest of you out there! Go kill some cars and tell us all about it! Viva Le Z!

k3smostwanted
10-06-2004, 06:53 PM
I think he's talking about one of the newer supercharged cobras... :rolleyes:

well in that case he will get killed even worse. i was saying i dont think a n/a auto z32 will be able to take a newer mustang GT without some major mods.

Broke_as_****
10-06-2004, 08:33 PM
Considering the weight will be comparably even and the GT is going to run a stock 300hp...yeah...might need some upgrading there.

JCCR
10-06-2004, 09:11 PM
the new pontiac GTO is also making over 300hp. more like 350hp. keep an eye open for the new gto

Broke_as_****
10-06-2004, 10:11 PM
The new GT mustang uses the same DOHC 4.6L that its had since 96 but they've changed this or that and now it makes 300hp instead of 280 or whatever it was. The GTO has a 5.7L genIII block in it. Basically its a C5 vette engine in a Cavalier. Anyone else thinks those things are really plain?

freakonaleash1187
10-06-2004, 10:40 PM
how bad did you beat the tiburon???

i beat it pretty damn bad, probably about 4-5 car lengths. they run high 15s stock. a lot slower than i thought.

-Jared

Broke_as_****
10-06-2004, 10:58 PM
Tiburons are a joke. Even the "GT" model only has a 2.7 V6 thats making like 180hp or something like that. The base model has a little 2L four banger puttin out 130hp. And they weigh like 3000lbs and some change. Not a performance car by any stretch of the imagination.

k3smostwanted
10-06-2004, 11:59 PM
yeah i knew they werent nothing special, i just wanted to know how exactly they compare against a n/a z32

HAVOK_Z32
10-07-2004, 10:38 AM
The new GT mustang uses the same DOHC 4.6L that its had since 96 but they've changed this or that and now it makes 300hp instead of 280 or whatever it was. The GTO has a 5.7L genIII block in it. Basically its a C5 vette engine in a Cavalier. Anyone else thinks those things are really plain?

I agree... I they could have done alot more with the body style... Too me it just looks like a souped up rwd grand-am. I cant see my myself paying $35,000 for it.
It lacks the style to match the 300+hp engine they slapped into it. the designers could have done better if it wasn't designed by someone's grandmother.

Just my thoughts.. :smokin:

longlivetheZ
10-07-2004, 08:16 PM
Yo JCCR...you *SURE* it was an SRT-4? Despite the fact that they're Neons and FWD...both of which is pretty rough...they are pretty damn fast. Could it have been a look-alike-wannabe or even an SXT slug? A Z32TT will probably beat it anyway, but it should have done alright.

i never told you bout the wrx i raced? well, he had a bov and exhaust, and he barely pulled on me.

:grinno: Don't think so buddy...

Tiburons are weak.

The new GT mustang uses the same DOHC 4.6L

The 4.6Ls in the GTs are SOHC 4.6Ls. And...the GT mustangs are actually surprisingly light...around 3100lbs...about 300-400lbs lighter than a Z32.

The GTO has a 5.7L genIII block in it. Basically its a C5 vette engine in a Cavalier. Anyone else thinks those things are really plain?

I agree. Big engine...decent performance...looks like poop. It looks better in person than it does in pics, but it's still a far cry from anything you'd wanna write home to mom about.

freakonaleash1187
10-07-2004, 08:20 PM
:grinno: Don't think so buddy...

are you saying that the wrx should of killed me? well, it didn't, and i knew we were racing because we met in a parking lot and went to spot and stopped and i honked three times and we took off. and he was barely pulling away from me.

-Jared

longlivetheZ
10-07-2004, 08:26 PM
Sorry man...He should have killed you. I don't know what happened, but they'll run VERY low 5s to 60 with mods...mid 5s to 60 stock...the na Z32 is not even close to that.

JCCR
10-07-2004, 08:54 PM
yes it was an srt4. it was blue and when he cut me off i was able to see srt4 on back.
yes there are fast. i saw a mustang bullet get taken by a srt4 a couple of weeks ago.

freakonaleash1187
10-07-2004, 08:54 PM
i don't know, thats why i think i have a z that is quite a bit faster than a stock n/a z. but all i know that i have aftermarket is cat-back exhaust, i still have the stock airbox, still the stock exhaust manifolds, still the stock ecu (still has nissan sticker on it).

-Jared

k3smostwanted
10-08-2004, 12:59 AM
Sorry man...He should have killed you. I don't know what happened, but they'll run VERY low 5s to 60 with mods...mid 5s to 60 stock...the na Z32 is not even close to that.

are you referring to the STI??? everyone knows the STI hands down will beat a n/a z32. it would more than likely even take out a z32TT stock for stock.

freak...i think this is what you raced. the WRX sedan is 227 hp and 217 ft. lbs. of torque. AWD, turbocharged and intercooled boxer engine. pretty tight little bugger.
http://subaru.com/servlet/showroom?model=IMPREZA&trim=WRX_SEDAN&command=overview


you also could have raced this but i dont think it would have pulled on you. maybe AWD and lightweight abled it too but i doubt it.
http://subaru.com/servlet/showroom?model=IMPREZA&trim=25_RS_SEDAN_SPORT_PKG&command=overview

j_greene
10-08-2004, 01:36 AM
So do NA z32 run low 14's? They must if they are beating on WRX's with a few mods.

A SRT4 will run anywhere from 14.4 to 13.9 depending on year (LSD) and driver. I figure a properly running Z would take it.

GTO's are muscle cars . . . a plain car with a big motor. Vortech just came out with a supercharger bringing HP close to 500. Not bad for a conservative looking car.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/news/2004_gto.html

The new Mustang GT went to a 3 vavle per cyl (oppposed to the 2V GTs 96-04) and new intake manifold. The chasis is better as well. It is on the same platform as the Lincoln LS which is a small car.
Despite the improvements at best it will be a 13.8 or slower car.

k3smostwanted
10-08-2004, 01:52 AM
n/a's do not run low 14's, closer to mid-low 15's.

does everyone think there is only 1 WRX offered? there are many different options. the STI happens to be the top of line. there is a a sedan model which only pumps out 227hp. also, the WRX is a rally car form of the impreza which offers another 4 different options (2 station wagon options and 2 sedan options). all of these look identical to the WRX and STI except for they are missing the big ass hood scoop that you can barely see over.

freakonaleash1187
10-08-2004, 07:41 AM
you guys are thinking that i was talking about an sti? if i did race one, i would of said that, but i only said a wrx. and j greene, i didn't beat the wrx, i said he pulled on me slowly. i still say there is some mystery left in my n/a that i don't know about.

-Jared

jmrev
10-08-2004, 12:27 PM
older mustangs run like high 14s i killed one in my celica running 14.4 with just tires and intake.

ttfox88
10-10-2004, 10:02 PM
the new pontiac GTO is also making over 300hp. more like 350hp. keep an eye open for the new gto
i seen the GTO manhandled the new Z (350Z) from the start to the finish i mean totally embarressed the s**t out of the Z my advise is dont even think about messing around with one if your not producing more hp then him the dont have a Vette engine for nothing.

Kuntry_Boi06
10-10-2004, 11:14 PM
if i get a z wtih tt do u think i can beat my friends supercharged z28 i didnt think so but thought i ask!

ZCrazyman
10-10-2004, 11:21 PM
well i handed a V6 accord his shit in a bag with 4peeps in my 91 civic hatch from light to light then up a hill to about 100mph it was pretty k00l course my civic isnt stock.. ;) but its definetly not as fast as a Z32 or a Z31 turbo but it is definetly as fast as my Z31 NA its a pretty fast 15sec little car but soon it will have a turbo and will produce 250hp out of a 1.6L dohc then i will race my Z31 FOR sure to see how it does...

longlivetheZ
10-10-2004, 11:34 PM
i seen the GTO manhandled the new Z (350Z) from the start to the finish i mean totally embarressed the s**t out of the Z my advise is dont even think about messing around with one if your not producing more hp then him the dont have a Vette engine for nothing.
:eek7:
Stock-

GTO 0-60: Mid 5 sec...
6 speed 350Z: Mid 5 sec...

Umm....It'd come down to the driver...definately shouldn't be any "manhandling" going on...

I dunno what's up with the Subaru people....they have...like...6 different cars out varying from quite fast, bad ass little cars...to..."meh" WAGONS...and they're ALL THE SAME MODEL! I don't get it. If you asked someone to take some money and bring you back an Impreza, who KNOWS what you'd get.

are you referring to the STI??? everyone knows the STI hands down will beat a n/a z32. it would more than likely even take out a z32TT stock for stock.

Noooooooooooooooo no no no no no no no no....dude....It would more than LIKELY take out a Z32TT? As much as it pains me to say it, we have to be realistic...a stock Z32TT trying to take on a stock STI would ruin the Z32 guy's day...possibly even if the Z32 is lightly modded. The STIs are VERY fast cars. Regular WRXs are quite fast too. I just wish they'd make the WRX look not so plain, soccor-mom-ish...same thing with the EVO...you look at them and they just look lame...in the back of your mind, you're thinking they might be packin some heat, but you still can't help but look in the driver's side window to make sure you're not trying to initiate a race with your Grandma...

DeleriousZ
10-10-2004, 11:53 PM
are you sure about the sti bit llz? the stock quarter for is 13.4 @100, and that's with a professional driver.. so we're talking something closer to 13.9-14.2 with most drivers out there... that's within the range of the zx tt for sure, given the driver knows what he's doing... altho, the 0-60 for the sti is 4.4 seconds which is pretty quick... most test drivers on MODIFIED sti's were hitting anywhere between 4.7 and 5.7 seconds for the 0-60.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0308scc_sti01/


aaaaaand

http://www.supercars.net/garages/ImprezaBuff/26v2.html

j_greene
10-11-2004, 12:23 AM
are you sure about the sti bit llz? the stock quarter for is 13.4 @100, and that's with a professional driver.. so we're talking something closer to 13.9-14.2 with most drivers out there... that's within the range of the zx tt for sure, given the driver knows what he's doing... altho, the 0-60 for the sti is 4.4 seconds which is pretty quick... most test drivers on MODIFIED sti's were hitting anywhere between 4.7 and 5.7 seconds for the 0-60.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0308scc_sti01/


aaaaaand

http://www.supercars.net/garages/ImprezaBuff/26v2.html


Yeah the first sight shows a STi running a 13.1. The others were 2.0L WRX not the 2.5 we are refering to. Ive seen stock a STi run 12.9. The Second sight is not the US STi, again it is the EJ20 powered STi, not as fast as the 2.5. STi run low 13's as a rule. Sorry, but out of the Z32's grasp.

And the GTO runs 13.7 to 14.0. Still pretty fast.

longlivetheZ
10-11-2004, 12:32 AM
Yea...the GTOs are reasonable...but the way that one dude said it "manhandled"? Just...no...the GTO was modded or there was a major diff in drivers.

Yea...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1114&page_number=1

...they're really fast...especially when you think that these are friggin 4 bangers. They're like...4 cylinder muscle cars or some shit. I've heard numbers around mid-high 4 sec to 60. That's a good bit quicker than a Z32TT.

DeleriousZ
10-11-2004, 12:38 AM
i see, altho, stock for stock the sti may beat the z32, i would hardly consider it anywhere near out of its grasp.. put it this way, you buy an sti and give me that exact amount of money to go and find a nice zx tt.. i can almost guarantee you the z will be faster ;)

edit: also, good luck finding a regular joe that can pull off those times anyway!

k3smostwanted
10-11-2004, 12:41 AM
almost?!?!?!?!

shit you would have nearly 20k's to spend on the engine of the z32TT. lol.

DeleriousZ
10-11-2004, 12:48 AM
well you never know, you could always go and spend the money on some goofey ass sound system and ridiculous body kit with all the bells and whistles... i'm sure i could make you a sound system that's around 10k+

longlivetheZ
10-11-2004, 12:51 AM
if i get a z wtih tt do u think i can beat my friends supercharged z28 i didnt think so but thought i ask!

Probably not. Z28s are reasonably fast stock...slap forced induction on it and the picture changes a bit. A stock TT V6 vs a charged V8? Give the Z32 a few mods and it'd be a good race.

well i handed a V6 accord his shit in a bag with 4peeps in my 91 civic hatch from light to light then up a hill to about 100mph it was pretty k00l course my civic isnt stock.. but its definetly not as fast as a Z32 or a Z31 turbo but it is definetly as fast as my Z31 NA its a pretty fast 15sec little car but soon it will have a turbo and will produce 250hp out of a 1.6L dohc then i will race my Z31 FOR sure to see how it does...

Ok...here's a rough "Z car food chain":

Z32TT/350Z manual trans - mid to low 5s to 60
Z32TT auto trans - mid to high 5s to 60
Z31T manual trans- mid to high 6s to 60
Z32 manual trans- mid to low 7s to 60
Z32 auto trans/Z31 manual trans/Z32 2+2 manual trans- prolly low to mid 8s...9s...10s...I dunno...
Z32 2+2 auto trans- maybe a little slower than the above
Z31 2+2 doesn't even matter... - ...like...double-digits...I know they feel faster, but they're not....I used to have one.

That sound about right, guys? I'm pretty tired.

Like...the charged Z28 that was mentioned would probably be at or above the Z32TT/350Z level. I know that it's been a while since I've had my ass kicked as hard as when I messed around with that SS...I think he was charged or at LEAST modded...cuz I'm not THAT slow and he friggin walked from me. The v6 accord would probably fit in somwhere around the Z32 manual area, I guess. A stock Civic would be around the auto Z32 2+2 area. See what I'm trying here? Just trying to get a visual thing goin.

k3smostwanted
10-11-2004, 12:58 AM
i think maybe your number started to slide a little once you got past the z31T...there is no way a civic is keeping up with my z32 2+2 auto. i have beaten many cars that a civic could not beat. i think i read somewhere that the z32 auto 2+2 is mid 7's. z32 manuals are low 7's to high 6's.

JCCR
10-11-2004, 01:14 AM
there is no comparecing! the STI is a piece of shit looking car. yes it might be a little faster than the ztt but the z looks alot better and with a few upgrades the z becomes a supercar. i havent race one yet but i'm looking forward to it.

nateomonk
10-11-2004, 01:54 AM
HAHAHA i like that broke...... FINALLY THO... they quit making them damn cav's ... but now there making cobalts.... Even uglier But diff name for teh cav

Zgringo
10-11-2004, 05:39 AM
Never take a knife to a gun fight....Never run out of class..

When your welling to giveup everything to put everything into your car..then you can smoke anything on wheels in your class..but you have to know your limits...to smoke vette's and viper's it takes $$$$$ and the desire. Some could care less 'bout racing and want a good looking car. The same thing goes for the one's with the show cars. If you want the best looking show car you must be welling to giveup everything for your car. As for me, my greatest thrill is smoking a hot V8. The following is a good example of desire and what $$$$$ can do.

http://www.zparts.com/showcase/engines/pages/q45v8z-testfit.html

Z32TT_maniac
10-11-2004, 07:58 AM
WRX STI is abit faster then Z32TT..280hp for STI and 300hp for Z32TT..but the STI is smaller,lighter plus all whell drive...both are Japanese super cars...but i prefer the Z32TT..the WRX look like a piece of shiet

Kuntry_Boi06
10-11-2004, 10:24 AM
thx i no i can mod a 300 to beat his camaro all i have to do is get one :) or $7500 for this tt down the road (200 miles:(..)

musicsurfman
10-11-2004, 11:24 AM
The Sti Is Alot Faster Than The Z32tt

13.3 In The Quarter And 4.6 0-60 Is Almost A Second Faster Than A Z32..... Its Awd And Its Handling Is Alot Better Than The Z.

Jealousy Runs Rampant In The Nissan Scene.... Btw: I Own A Datsun 280z And Have Owned 4, Yes 4 240sxs. All I Ever Notice Is People Bashing Other Cars Because They Wish Their Car Compared To Them.

j_greene
10-11-2004, 03:13 PM
Jealousy Runs Rampant In The Nissan Scene.... Btw: I Own A Datsun 280z And Have Owned 4, Yes 4 240sxs. All I Ever Notice Is People Bashing Other Cars Because They Wish Their Car Compared To Them.

Couldnt agree more. yeah most people may not be able to hit what the magazines run in the STI, but that also means that Z drivers cant either . . . right? Just because you drive a Z doesnt make you any better then an STi driver. The US STI makes 300 hp which is what I thought everyone is refering to. right?

one more point

The first argument on who's car is better is which one is faster. If you loose that then you say mine can handle better. If you loose that then you say mine looks better. If you loose that then you say I get better HP to liter then you, but who cares. Or I get better MPG. Mine was cheaper. Mine has higher resale. Reduardless you like your car and thats why you got. Dont feel bad if there are better performing cars out there. I now drive an Escort. So what. There will always be a better car out there, unless you have a Hummer H1, Maybach, and Enzo in you garage.

k3smostwanted
10-11-2004, 04:25 PM
nah i would take a z32TT over a hummer or a maybach. :D

this above statement futher demonstrates that is all opinionated. whatever you think is better is what is better. i have a 300zx n/a and i think it is better than a 350z eventhough the 350z kills it in every category and most people think it looks better but i dont. i personally think that the stlying of the z32 kills the 350z.

musicsurfman
10-11-2004, 04:58 PM
Bingo....

Your Opinion Is All That Matters. If You Care About What Other People Think You Are Really Superficial Or Are Just Plain Stupid. Why Buy Something To Appease The Masses When You'll Ultimately Be Unhappy? It Just Doesn't Make Sense...

Ohh Well To Each Their Own And Just Have Fun Thats All That Matters!

1viadrft
10-11-2004, 05:44 PM
i personally think that the stlying of the z32 kills the 350z.

Yuh... the Z33 is fugly!

longlivetheZ
10-11-2004, 08:11 PM
i see, altho, stock for stock the sti may beat the z32, i would hardly consider it anywhere near out of its grasp.. put it this way, you buy an sti and give me that exact amount of money to go and find a nice zx tt.. i can almost guarantee you the z will be faster ;)

edit: also, good luck finding a regular joe that can pull off those times anyway!

It's easier than you think to rip off insane numbers in cars like the STI cuz they're all wheel drive. There's not too much to launching them in comparison to a RWD car. You kinda sorta just rev to ~5k and dump the clutch...bad for tranny...good for times.

Anyway...don't get me wrong...the STI is definately NOT out of a Zs grasp. I'll be there soon enough. -<-Sidenote->- In fact, I went and test drove the Z31Ts daily driver replacement today...Scion Tc...VERY cool cars at an even COOLER price. I told the sales guy the Tc will never be faster than my 300 and he was kinda trying to sell me on the Stage III supercharger upgrade..."how about with the TRD Stage III supercharger they have coming out...250hp"...I laughed and told him I'm pushing around 225 right now and I haven't even done much. He shut up after that. Anyway...I highly recommend the Tc...nice cars. -<-Sidenote->- With the extra chunk of money you'd spend on the STI, you could make the Z32TT EXTREMELY fast. Don't get me wrong...I'd take a Z32TT over a WRX or EVO any friggen day...

longlivetheZ
10-11-2004, 08:33 PM
Its Handling Is Alot Better Than The Z.

.88 lat g on the skidpad for the STI vs. the Z32TTs .91 lat g...ok, dude...

STI-http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1114&page_number=1

Z32TT-

Road and Track, Dec 89
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/r3.jpg

Wheels Magazine, Nov 1990, Austrailia-
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/d1p2.jpg

Car and Driver, Feb 92...The Z32 ties the STI in this one-
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/a4p5.jpg

Motor Trend, Apr 92-
http://www.aus300zxclub.com/magazine/a12p8.jpg

...You were saying???

Jealousy Runs Rampant In The Nissan Scene....

...You're going to come into our forum and say shit like this right after making a completely false and uneducated statement? You're kidding, right? Hit the road, kid.

DeleriousZ
10-11-2004, 09:06 PM
"sniff... sniff" dammit llz you did it again!
:owned:

JCCR
10-11-2004, 09:31 PM
the STI is an ugly car just like the dodge neon srt4. both are ugly, look cheap and the only thing this two got going is power but no curves and style.

how many STIs do you see out on the streets? none cause they are so ugly no one wants to pay $30000 for one. only people with bad taste. :iceslolan

longlivetheZ
10-11-2004, 09:46 PM
Thanks, Delerious.

I agree the STIs are NOT much to look at...especially for the price tag. Good performance...looks better than past WRXs...looks better in person than in pics...def no where NEAR as sexy as Z cars. Same goes for EVOs. I don't mind the SRT's look, though. I wouldn't mind having an SRT-4...but a WRX or EVO...uh uh...unless it's free...

musicsurfman
10-11-2004, 10:26 PM
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0307scc_stievo/

yeah you can kiss my ass.... and your forum!?, if you can read you would relize this is very much my forum also jackass.

musicsurfman
10-11-2004, 10:30 PM
:thefinger :flipa:

thats right!

DeleriousZ
10-11-2004, 11:09 PM
http://www.fast-autos.net/subaru/subarusti.html .90 for the sti, and that's the lighter japanese version, i'm sure the heavier one posts lower #'s

DeleriousZ
10-11-2004, 11:32 PM
nother one at .88
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=192

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