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longlivetheZ
10-11-2004, 11:24 PM
What a friggin moron. All happy cuz he found one artical that tied one of the articals I posted. You've been shown the fuck up. Either show some respect in my...yes...MY forum as in reserved for me and friends and people I respect, or hit the road.

http://ywain.penberthy.co.za/perform.html
Shut up

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2581
And shut up

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2004.html
While we're at it...notice that the STI is not as fast as the Z32TT in EVERY ARTICAL quoted on that page. (Click the above link, then click the "Stats, Articals" link.)

Z32TT_maniac
10-12-2004, 04:26 AM
i think u guys are talking about the US STI version...the 2.2 litre STI right? man that car is fast..im talking about the 280hp 2.0 litre STI...0-60 in 5 sec and Z32TT 2 seater 0-60 5.2 sec...not much faster..but with an experience driver Z32TT can do 5 sec flat

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 08:08 AM
2.5liter Us Sti....

And Thats The Only Magazine I Read Btw Unless You Count Super Chevy Or Popular Hot Rodding.

Your Forum.... How Is This Your Forum? I Very Much Own A Z Jackass, So This Is Our Forum.

It Also Helps If You Show The Superior Us Version Of The Car... Two You Have To Make Sure All The Tests Are The Same... Three I Have Never Ever Seen A Stock Ttz Do 13.2 Being The Over Weight Pig That It Is... Four You Can Talk To The Guys A Vivid Racing Who Are Heavy Tuners For The Sti And Evo What They Think Of The Sti... Five You Obviously Are Extrmemly Biased Towards Nissan And The Z In General Which Is Stupid, But Whatever When You Get Your Ass Handed To You By A Sti Because Your Nissan Super Hicas Fucks Up Like Always Or Your 3800lbs (Z31) Steel Sled Can't Turn For Shit Don't Cry....

k3smostwanted
10-12-2004, 12:44 PM
whoa whoa whoa calm down...where are you getting these statistics about the z32TT? i think your anger is interferring with your thinking abilities.

check this out.

z32TT weighs in at 3200-3300lbs. i dont know where you got 3800.

super hicas is a well designed and very useable and helpful part of your car. the problem comes when people that dont know how to drive it try and drive it hard with hicas and they dont know how its going to act.

why are we comparing a car that is 16 year old technology compared to a car that is 3 year old technology? you cant.

back to the overweight issue. im guessing you think a skyline is the best and fastest car ever made but what you dont know is that it weighs in at about the same as the z32TT. potential of the z32TT is enormous. STI, it is damn near its limits from the factory.

Your 3800lbs Steel Sled Can't Turn For Shit Don't Cry....
WTF are you talking about??? that is why the z32 is one of the preferred cars of JGTC??? oh...wait you dont really know anything about the z32. "cant turn for shit" who the f*** does this kid think he is???

i suggest that next time you come into a forum bashing the car that forum is based off of you atleast know a little bit about the car, instead of making numbers up off the top of your head. take your ass to the subaru forum. you dont deserve a Z or any nissan for that matter.

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 01:01 PM
Actually I Don't Like Skylines Just The Motors.... Seeing As I've Had Five Of Them.

I Was Reffering To The Z31 On The Weight.... Thats What My Buddies Weighed In At All Stock With A Full Tank. And Hicas Is Crap.... I've Driven A 240 With It And A Z32 With It, It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear. Haha Don't Deserve A Nissan.... I'm Bashing Stupid People Who Elitests Thinking There Car Is Best. Nissan Forums Like All Others Are Riddled With Them. Who The Hell Are You To Decide What I Deserve? I've Worked Hard For My Z And Put All My Money Time And A Quite A Few Pints Of Blood In It Also.... But Do You See Me Saying My Cars Is Better Than Other Cars, Nope! I'm Happy With My Car And Thats All That Matters.

And The Z32 Is Still Just As Over Weight As Most Of The Old Technology Japanese Sports Cars.

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 01:04 PM
The Sti Is At Its Limits? Its Got 8.2 To 1 Compression... Its Got A World Of Opportunities And Thats Why There Is A 500 Awhp Sti Here In Az Running 10.5s On Stock Wheels And Tires.

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 01:05 PM
The Z32 Is Nothing In The Jgtc... It Was Outmatched 1 Year After Its Arrival On That Racing Circuit.

Hodo
10-12-2004, 01:59 PM
Only becuase of the JGTCs funky weight rules. It wasnt out matched it was slowed down. Even the new Z33 350Z runs the VQ30DETT (varient on the VG30DETT) And is doing quite strongly in the 500 class. Now lets think about calming down.

Musicsurfman you are partialy right, there is alot of bickering in the Nissan scene, but there is in EVERY car scene, from Audi to Volvos. Everyone would like to think their "whip" is the best on the road. And they get very offended or jealous when they see someone else has put more time and money or in better places than they did into their car. Therefore makeing it faster and better than what they have. Its human instinct to envy what we dont have.

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 03:03 PM
I'll Agree With The Z33 Being One Of The Top Cars In Jgtc And Whole Heartedly Support Nissans Decision To Drop The Skyline From Their Lineup.

And By Its Class Rules It Was Outmatched, Being Pair With The Rx-7 And Supras (while Unfair) Outmatched The Abilities Of The Car And It Serverly Suffered Leading To Dominance Of The Skyline For Nissan In Jgtc.

Every Car Group Does Have Its Loyalties But With Nissans It Seems Everyone Even Hates On Other Nissans. Whatever My Point Has Been Made As Were Yours... I Still Feel You People Being Biased Is Down Right Childish But Too Each There Own.

And Just Think.... If They Never Merged Our Forums You Would Never Have To Hear From Me.

DeleriousZ
10-12-2004, 03:05 PM
Actually I Don't Like Skylines Just The Motors.... Seeing As I've Had Five Of Them.

I Was Reffering To The Z31 On The Weight.... Thats What My Buddies Weighed In At All Stock With A Full Tank. And Hicas Is Crap.... I've Driven A 240 With It And A Z32 With It, It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear.
And The Z32 Is Still Just As Over Weight As Most Of The Old Technology Japanese Sports Cars.

since when did z31's weigh 3800 lbs??? your buddy must be one fat sob with a huge competition sound system to get the car to gain 800 lbs... since when did HICAS come on 240's?? i've never heard of that before, then again.. i haven't been listening. i think you need to take a few good long steps back son and look at the big picture... you're attempting to compare a car that's around 3 years old and costs around $30,000 to a car that's coming up on 15 years old and can run as low as 7.5k for a decent condition tt. Now, give someone that 22.5 Thousand dollars (22500) to modify the Zed and then we'll see who has the faster car.. in conclusion... stop comparing apples to speakers.. it just doesn't work

k3smostwanted
10-12-2004, 03:09 PM
how were we being biased? i think everyone of us agreed that the STI was the faster car. WTF.

i think delerious covered everything that i was gonan say.

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 03:16 PM
The Z31 Is All Stock.... Thats The Number We Got On The Junkyard Scale...

Not Everyone Is In Agreance That Number Wise The Sti Outperforms The Z.

Hicas Came On The Super Hicas 240sxs In 1991-1993, They Also Came With Vlsd.

We Are In Comparison Of Stock For Stock.... If You Want To Go Dollar For Dollar My 280z Which I Got For $150 Will Be Alot Faster And Better Handling (than The Z32 And Sti) In The End If I Invest $29,850 In It.

DeleriousZ
10-12-2004, 03:24 PM
YOU CAN'T COMPARE A CAR THAT'S 15 YRS OLD TO ONE THAT'S 3 YEARS OLD STOCK TO STOCK it just doesn't work!!! maybe find me a 15 yr old subaru performance model and then compare it to the zed, that would be a fair comparison

j_greene
10-12-2004, 04:09 PM
YOU CAN'T COMPARE A CAR THAT'S 15 YRS OLD TO ONE THAT'S 3 YEARS OLD STOCK TO STOCK it just doesn't work!!! maybe find me a 15 yr old subaru performance model and then compare it to the zed, that would be a fair comparison


You are right which makes me wonder why people are talking about how much a used Z32 runs for. That being said you cant really compare the car and try to say it is 23000 cheaper. What were they going for at the time? The Z32 is a nice sports car, even for todays standards. Just dont compare price on a car made over 10 years ago plus 'x' amount of moeny toward modifacations. A better comparison is the STi and 350Z, but this isnt the forum for it.

DeleriousZ
10-12-2004, 04:30 PM
i think a better idea would be to find subaru's #1 performance car in america at the time of 90-96 then compare it to the z32... i'm too lazy to go look, would someone care to?

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 04:58 PM
Its The 2.5rs And To Do That Would Yeild Z As The King Now If You Said A J-spec Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Verse A Z32 The Z Would Be Obliterated And Has Been.

longlivetheZ
10-12-2004, 05:00 PM
Holy God...Wes, please help us out here...this is rediculous. We're not biased...we just know the facts...Me, Delerious, Broke, K3, Stealth, Freak, Samhain...all of us that call this forum our "home" on AF...we aren't here cuz we owe the Z something or cuz we feel like we need to be here, we're here because we truely believe that these are some of the best sports cars that have ever been built...or as Motor Trend said in 1990, "Dollar for dollar, the best damn sports car ever built." So either show some respect, quit saying rediculously stupid shit, and quit being so stubborn or find another forum to disrupt.

The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.

And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?

I too have NEVER heard of 240s coming with HICAS in the US. Prove it, beotch before I pull out the BS flag and own your ass again. Even if they did at some point, you obviously still know NOTHING about the HICAS system.

It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear.

It turns the rear wheels a max of ~3 degrees and it's all speed and turning angle dependant. All these stories of it running guys into the wall at drag strips and so on are just complete bullshit. They're just an excuse (a bad one at that) for shitty driving or a screw up. If you believe that shit, you're a moron.

The Z32 is a nice sports car, even for todays standards. Just dont compare price on a car made over 10 years ago plus 'x' amount of moeny toward modifacations.

What's wrong with that? I know what you're saying, but we aren't paying the retail price for the car when it was new now. It's not hard at all to find a Z32TT in good condition for 12-15K. If you give me 33K or whatever for a car and someone else 33K for an STI, he spent all his, why couldn't I spend all mine? That would leave me ~20K for mods.

Everyone would like to think their "whip" is the best on the road.

Which is all fine and dandy...it's when you get all bent out of shape and start making up arguments and stats that you get beyond the realm of reasonable. There's nothing at all wrong with having a calm, civil argument with someone...it's one way to learn. I've learned a lot about mustangs in this manner. But when you start saying such rediculous, unfounded, completely wrong things such as "the Z31 weighs 3800lbs"...come on...prove that. I've given references (more than one in most cases) for damn near every stat I've given, so quit being stubborn.

DeleriousZ
10-12-2004, 05:09 PM
Its The 2.5rs And To Do That Would Yeild Z As The King Now If You Said A J-spec Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Verse A Z32 The Z Would Be Obliterated And Has Been.

the point is, at the time, the Zed was better than the subaru. now if there was a modern day z32 made here in america, i'm sure the specs would be out of this world if nissan directed all it's efforts at performance. now you may say the 350z is what i'm getting at, but no, it isn't. the 350z is more of a nice quick touring car than an all out race machine. also, it's an n/a motor.. slap a tt kit on there and you're making 420+ rwhp (dyno proven, i have a movie clip of it if you don't believe me) that more than takes it up into the 1/4 times of the sti. anyway, i'm done bickering.. i've got better things to do... like stare at a wall.

longlivetheZ
10-12-2004, 06:08 PM
I highly doubt that Nissan will ever go for a extreme high performance Z like they did with the Z32 due to cost. That was what brought the Z32s demise...they were INCREDIBLE cars, but you also had to pay an INCREDIBLE price for them. That's why the new Z isn't an all out, hard core performance car. They did a very good job of keeping the performance there while keeping the price down...which is what they did.

i've got better things to do... like stare at a wall.

That rules. Love the new Z31 Pic...nice clean Z, man.

DeleriousZ
10-12-2004, 06:13 PM
thanks llz, i like it too :p and i haven't washed that thing in a few days too, that colour is the best for hiding dirt for sure... the water you see is from me hosing out my radiator... the thing looked like one big wall of dirt it was so freaking clogged..

musicsurfman
10-12-2004, 07:02 PM
http://www.carsurvey.org/modelyear_Nissan_240SX_1991.html

the 3800lb car is my friends... he weighed his car when I weighed my 240sx rb swap. His car was completely stock (unless you count lighter wheel wheels) with a full tank of gas.

1viadrft
10-12-2004, 07:13 PM
Shut your yapping... The Z rules and there are not many cars out there that can beat a highly modded Z TT let alone a stock one!

musicsurfman: STFU! Take your WRX and shove it, you cretin!

JCCR
10-12-2004, 09:06 PM
the only thing the sti has on the Z is the all wheel drive. besides that, how many times are you gonna race from a stopping point.
been that the ZS lates year model was the 1996 comparing it to the STI which is over five years diff in tech it would be fair to do bolt ons.the ZTT will be around 400hp that would whoop the STI

there is a guy around my hood that has an STI but everytime he sees me coming for some reason he always make a quick turn to get a way.

JCCR
10-12-2004, 09:13 PM
the only thing the sti has on the Z is the all wheel drive. besides that, how many times are you gonna race from a stopping point.
been that the ZS lates year model was the 1996 comparing it to the STI which is over five years diff in tech it would be fair to do bolt ons.the ZTT will be around 400hp that would whoop the STI

there is a guy around my hood that has an STI but everytime he sees me coming for some reason he always make a quick turn to get a way.

k3smostwanted
10-12-2004, 11:07 PM
The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.

And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?


i got the weight of the z32TT from the sticky wes had made about zed specifications. according to that the z31 also weighs just above 3,000lbs. not the lightest cars but they are definitely not a metal sled that cant turn worth shit. also, for the day and age the car really isnt that heavy, beings in 1990 and 1984 they didnt exactly have the technology to build cars just as strong but lighter.

musicsurfman
10-13-2004, 08:15 AM
I Don't Have A Wrx....

My Z Would Probably Beat A Highly Modified Tt Z32, But This Isn't About My Car.

A Wrx On A Track Would Blow The Doors Of A Z Car.

k3smostwanted
10-13-2004, 10:19 AM
maybe...good for it. a 3 year old car design built for top performance can beat a 16-20 year old car design built for performance along with luxury. why do you come in a past z car forum and bash the z that was built 20 years ago to a car that is basically brand spanking new with the newest technology? makes you look stupid when you say things like the z cant handle and it weighs 3800lbs and that hicas screws up everytime you turn the wheels. WTF???

i dont think anyone here has or had the intention to bash the STI because most people here know that it is a very fast and powerful car but we also know that the z is very fast and powerful. we didnt go say things like well the STI sucks because it has 4 doors and it cant take turns because it has all wheel drive. because those things wouldnt be true. next time i would advise you to atleast research the cars that your bashing so you dont sound like an dumbass. we dont take kindly to people bashing the z let alone people bashing the z with false accusations.

DeleriousZ
10-13-2004, 03:41 PM
i agree with k3.. know your stuff or keep it shut, if i were a mod i would have banned you by now, but that's wes' decision not mine. nobody said the sti sucks, some just said it looks like grandma ass, which i agree. where the sti is more powerful than the z, it will never..ever touch the z's grace and sleek lines

Hodo
10-13-2004, 04:00 PM
The sooby is a good car, and great for those who need AWD and performance. But its not a sports car. Its a Sports Sedan four door at that. Its a great car more so considering its coming from the company thats only good car has been the WRX/Impreza line. And their only selling car..... The Z32 on the other hand like all Z's are what the japanese call practical performance machines. They have room to carry stuff in the boot/hatch and yet they are quick and handle better than most cars in their price year range. Even to this day the Z car is considered to be the best all around packege to come out of Japan. I have driving both the STI and the Z32, Both have their draws, but the STI drives like a FF(front engine frontwheel drive) car. This is not something that I look for in a car. I got tired of understeer with my Escort, I wanted something that in a pinch I could turn a 3 point turn into a 1 single bootlegger. The STI I felt that I sat to high in the car, almost like driving a XC90 from Volvo, and that the hood scoop was sort of ubstructing, but yet it wasnt as bad on the regular WRX. It had great excelleration from the line and a decent power band for a 2.5L. I didnt like the Transmission it was a pain to get it into first when downshifting from second. Also its first gear felt sloppy, almost like a Saturns transaxle MT. There was too much stick play with the car in first gear, you couldnt feel if you were in gear, not a big grabber for me. Sorry but the Soobie is a great car if thats what your into but it wasnt for me, or for many others on this forum. Sorry to come down on you but you DO need to chill its just peoples opinion, if you dont like them then ignore them. Simple as that.

musicsurfman
10-13-2004, 04:19 PM
How Does A Rear Biased Awd Car Drive Like A Ff Car? Have You Even Tried Adjusting The Center Differential? And One I've Driven Every Z Body Style Out So Far And They Are All Great Cars Thats Why I Own One Of The Originals Hell I Just Bought Two More (a 73 And A 77)..... But My Point Was Nissan Fanboy Jealousy, I Love Nissans I'll Always Own One... And The Best Part Of This Whole Debate Is That Fact That I Doubt That Any Of You People Realise It But The Subaru Design Is Mostly Nissan Parts And A Nissan System. I Was Just Getting You People Wild Just To Piss You People Off.... I've Loved The Z's Since I've Driven Them And I'll Continue To Love Them.

DeleriousZ
10-13-2004, 04:28 PM
i would suggest you not do it again or it could result in some unpleasant circumstances

1viadrft
10-13-2004, 04:40 PM
WRX a sports Sedan? No....! Sorry... I like the Scooby-Sube too... don't get me wrong! I'd rather have a Z TT but I will probably end up getting a WRX wagon sometime down the line... I'm not being biased when I say that the WRX is not a true Sports Sedan... just like the whole arguement about the Z32 being a 'Super Car'... they are both good cars in their own ways...

JCCR
10-13-2004, 07:51 PM
when i was looking for a new ride, i tought about the STI. i remember when i drove to see one at the dealer. i was very dissapointed to see that the car look like a box. i didn't even wanted to drive it!

i guess its a powerfull car from what i read but the Z is also very powerfull and looks alot better.

j_greene
10-14-2004, 01:34 AM
WRX a sports Sedan? No....! Sorry... I like the Scooby-Sube too... don't get me wrong! I'd rather have a Z TT but I will probably end up getting a WRX wagon sometime down the line... I'm not being biased when I say that the WRX is not a true Sports Sedan... just like the whole arguement about the Z32 being a 'Super Car'... they are both good cars in their own ways...


Uh what is a sports sedan? I am thinking a 4 door car (sedan) that can perfrom well (sports). What is the STi? Now if you were refering to a touring sedan ok yeah, the STi is not.

My opinion:

STi is better if you have the money and do not like questionable used cars or paying for repairs/parts. NEW/EXPENSIVE

Z32 is better is you need a cheaper car and dont mind paying for the repairs/parts. OLD/CHEAP (nothing wrong with that)

Sti is faster stock for stock. However . . .

Both cars potential is too close to say one is a clear cut winner.

Its bad when two cars are being compared and the price is what the deciding factor is. A car can beat you reguardless of what they paid for it, you still loose. So do you hate on the Enzo cause the driver paid too much? Money not being an option I would like to think that the Z or STi would not be at the top of anyones list, but money is a factor for some. Is another car less of a car because it cost more? Or is it just not practical for you? Dont argue how much you would spend on a car. is what I am saying.

musicsurfman
10-14-2004, 07:53 AM
The Sti Is Considered By Most Insurance Companies As A High Performance Sedan Or Touring Car.

Money Not A Factor I Would Still Take A S30 Baby, Well That And A Ferrari 355 Gts-f1 And A Mclaren F1.

Zgringo
10-14-2004, 12:03 PM
Well I guess it's time to settle this bullshit. I have a 13 year old Zed32TT that's been upgraded to 2004 performance and I'll personally challange any Sti in the country. I also know a Jap fellow and a guy in Puerto Rico that has one similar to mine that's even alittle faster than mine, and NO fuckin Sti in the world runs in the low 7's. That's 7 in the 1/4, not 0-60. I deal in facts, not bullshit. Any time you take a car that's 10 years old and I don't care which brand it is, it's old, and unless the owner upgrades it, it remains old. Like I said, I have a updated Z32TT that I'll put up against anything except another updated Z32TT and smoke them. The fact of the matter is the Z32 in Pro Import is #1, #2 and #3. I see no mention of a Sti in there anyplace, or a Toy or Honda. The RX7 close but not close enough.
It would be like comparing a Ford Pinto to a 1930 Model A Ford. No contest, but take the model A and update it and drop a 460 Cobra Jet in it and watch out, cause it'll rip you a new ass.
The 300ZX Z32 was and is one of the top 5 Engineered cars ever built. Not my pick but by automotive engineers from around the world, and to this day hasn't been removed from that list. That itself speaks for the design and engineering that went into it. That honor only goes to very few. Nissan has 4-5 350Z's in Calif. the the head of there Special Operations Group have built with the VK45DETT engines (I don't want to hear any shit that Nissan don't have a VK45DETT) w/5 speed automatics. I don't know if they plan on marketing it or what but if they do, the Viper's, Cobras and Vette's better watch out. But that too won't last long cause no one likes to be beat, which is great, cause we, being us as consumers reap the benefits.
But for right now as we speak and that could all change tomarrow, I know of 3 updated 2004 standard Zed32's for the right amount of money and expenses would take on any Sti, but the owners of them aren't stupid and the offer we'll never be taken up on.
Apples for apples boys. All's fair in love and racing.

musicsurfman
10-14-2004, 12:20 PM
For What It Would Take A Z32 To Go 7's You Can Make An Awd Sti Do It.... Hell In Japan There Are 7 Second Drag Stis Not The New Ones Because They Don't Have Those But Stis Of A Closer Year 98-99.

The Vk45 Has Been Turbo'd For Awhile And Nismo Also Has A Supercharged Version For The Titans That They Have Slated To Come Out Sometime Next Year.

I'm Not Arguing That They Aren't Fast I'm Saying Stock For Stock There Is No Comparison.

Any Car With Money Put In It Could Be Fast... Hell They Have 10 Second Geos And 9 Second Minivans.

And I Would Love To See Your 7 Second Z32.... That Should Be Interesting.

longlivetheZ
10-14-2004, 12:34 PM
I have a 13 year old Zed32TT that's been upgraded to 2004 performance and I'll personally challange any Sti in the country. I also know a Jap fellow and a guy in Puerto Rico that has one similar to mine that's even alittle faster than mine, and NO fuckin Sti in the world runs in the low 7's. That's 7 in the 1/4

Just wondering...you have a Z32TT running 7s?

if i were a mod i would have banned you by now

Good to know I'm not the only one. Like I said before...Hey Wes...help us out here, buddy?

I Was Just Getting You People Wild Just To Piss You People Off....

:banhim:

K3...it's all good...weights of cars vary...I got my spec from an issue of Road and Track (or car and driver or motor trend or whatever). Care to see it, lemme know. My point is just that they really are quite heavy cars but you could never know by driving it.

http://www.carsurvey.org/modelyear_...240SX_1991.html

the 3800lb car is my friends... he weighed his car when I weighed my 240sx rb swap. His car was completely stock (unless you count lighter wheel wheels) with a full tank of gas.

Ok...your link shows a BUNCH OF 240'S!! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, MORON!? Even if you DO know someone who has a 3800lb Z31, SO WHAT? There's no WAY all Z31s weigh MORE THAN A Z32! A LOT more, at that.

Tell me where to go weigh my car, and I'll go right the fuck now...I'd be more than happy to own your ass again.

In the mean time, I did a search on Z31.com...here are the results I found:

84 2+2 - 3080lbs.......without spare/toolkit. (Seems kinda low to me.)
'86 T - 3202lbs........w/ driver and low fuel level.
1988 SS - 3450 with 180lb driver and 1/2 tank gas. (Seems a little high to me.)
One person said ~3100lb and another said 3262.

So...you are WAAAAAAAAY the fuck off with the 3800lbs.

No matter what, I don't care if Mr. K himself came to me and told me that a stock Z31 weighs 3800 lbs, I'd still say no fuckin way.

musicsurfman
10-14-2004, 01:01 PM
My Link Was In Response To Your Dumbasses Saying There Is No Superhicas 240sx.....

If You Banned Me I'd Just Go To My 240sx Bretheren And Get Back In, And Anyway I Could Careless If I Got Banned Seeing As This Forum Doesn't Ip Ban And I'm On A Secured Business Network With Ip Scramble I Could Just Add A Name For Every Day Of The History Of Earth And Still Get In.

longlivetheZ
10-14-2004, 08:07 PM
Sweet...All the more reason to BAN YOUR ASS...

JCCR
10-14-2004, 08:30 PM
this guy is worse than my wife!!

longlivetheZ
10-14-2004, 08:32 PM
Lol. Ban Him!!!

j_greene
10-14-2004, 10:28 PM
That's 7 in the 1/4, not 0-60. I deal in facts, not bullshit.

The fact of the matter is the Z32 in Pro Import is #1, #2 and #3. I see no mention of a Sti in there anyplace, or a Toy or Honda. The RX7 close but not close enough.



Any followup on the 7 sec Z? I guess there is also 7 second Cavaliers and Grand AMs (NHRA). I have also seen 200 mph Taurus (NASCAR). An all out 7 sec drag car is no longer anything resembling the original.
One other point how many WRC has the Z32 won? Anyone every take their Z out in the dirt? I am not arguing I just hope you see the point in all of this. A real question though, What is Pro Import? Really I have no idea what is it?

Z32TT_maniac
10-15-2004, 07:21 AM
7 sec? thats bullshiet man

JCCR
10-15-2004, 12:40 PM
i have never heard of a 7sec Z32TT. I heard that SGP has one of the fastest z and runs around 10sec in the 1/4 mile.

j_greene
10-15-2004, 04:20 PM
I am glad I am not the only one that smelled that. Who knew that the worlds fastest Z was in Mexico?

1viadrft
10-15-2004, 04:45 PM
Who are you guys to call BS?

JCCR
10-15-2004, 06:06 PM
i'm not calling BS on nobody is just that i have never heard of a z32tt running 7sec 1/4 mile!

1viadrft
10-15-2004, 06:18 PM
Never?

http://escort-us.com/images/NHRA.JPG

Nissan VG30DETT 3.2l engine 1200+ RWHP
Escort Racing Pistons and Camshafts
Motec Fuel Management System
East-West Engineering Clutch
Mickey Thompson Drag Slicks
Willie Rells Racecars Chassis
Lenco 5-Speed Transmission
Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
Mark Williams Rear End
Race Pack Data Logger
Richmond Pinion Gear
Torco MPZ Racing Oil
Browell Bellhousing
Monocoque Wheels
Deist Safety Chute
KKK Turbochargers
Moroso Oil Sump
MSD Ignition

7 seconds.... easy!

JCCR
10-15-2004, 09:11 PM
thats nice to know. i tough he ment like a daily dirver.

Zgringo
10-15-2004, 09:56 PM
For all you calling me BS. In fact two of those cars are now in the high 6's.
Show me where I posted I had the fastest Zed in the world. Last year I was ranked 3rd with a best time of 7.88 sec. This year I'm not ranked as been taking of other things and not taking the time. The next time you call me BS, I'll *insert hollow threat here*
If you can read you'll notice that the first two cars in the 2003 Players list are in PRO IMPORT class

http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_drag_lists/drag_lists.html

Now for your claim that SGP has one of the fastest Zed's, it's a good one but no prize today. Here's a NA that runs in the 9's when this was written he was running in the 10's

http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_photos/_20030524/page_01.htm

Edited by Wes for content

JCCR
10-15-2004, 10:28 PM
come down playboy! when this thread started we were all talking about street racing. so thats why i said that i have never heard of a car running 7 seconds in a 1/4 mile. and i'm still talking about street racing! in another words a daily driver. you were talking about drag racing but what i meant was that SGP has the fastest daily driver. know thats what i'm talking about! a car that you can drive when ever you want and take on anybody anytime anyday of the week.

i meant no disrespect but it seems like we were talking about two diferent things.


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j_greene
10-15-2004, 11:26 PM
OK so those are Z's right. . .? They have a motor resembling a Z and the lines look like a Z, but that is not a Z. I guess if that is a Z then civics are better then Z's right? I mean Steph ran a 6.7 in his AEM civc.(sarcasm for those who think I am serious) All out drag cars are not the meassure of a great car.

What series is Pro-Import in? Is that even a class still?

Zgringo
10-16-2004, 01:42 AM
OK so those are Z's right. . .? They have a motor resembling a Z and the lines look like a Z, but that is not a Z. I guess if that is a Z then civics are better then Z's right? I mean Steph ran a 6.7 in his AEM civc.(sarcasm for those who think I am serious) All out drag cars are not the meassure of a great car.

What series is Pro-Import in? Is that even a class still?


Sorry Charlie I have one of those cars and it has the original body and doors that work and a few carbon parts, the engine is a VG30DE. It don't have A/C and the last time I looked the Cruise Control was missing. Your the one talking shit about me. Bring on your 6.7 Civic's. Seems they never show up for the Nationals. Whatever drag cars are a measure of don't be putting crap on me. As for which sactioning body has Pro Import class, try IDRC, NHRA and NIRA. I hear all these magic numbers but non can back it up with any major event win. Many tracks pad the times to draw a crowd, but never at the Nationals. Thats why these magical rockets never show up for the Nationals. Besides you have to earn a spot in the Nationals, you just don't show up claiming you have a fast car. Rules are setup by the sactioning bodys for classes and mfg. of a car. Their main intress is safety, so in the higher speed class's because of the speed are allowed to remove the interiors to place roll cages in them. In these class's a drag chute is required to aid in stopping. Last year my car was #3 in the nation and I earned that spot, and not by doing some promo for any track to boost attendence. I have a car in the National HotRod Museum. It earned that spot.That's why most racing body's require a backup run within a certain time limit when World records or records are being established.
This car my friend set 6 World FIA records, broke more than 50 track records, Won 1st place in the Oakland Roadster Show as the Worlds most beautiful dragster, and now sits in a museum. You earn these spots and not by doing commericals or promo's for some company selling hedders or nitrous kits, you earn these spots by winning. It's an insult when someone who hasn't payed their dues tell's me my car isn't a Zed, only looks like one.

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/7607/12925.jpg

k3smostwanted
10-16-2004, 02:11 AM
yeah that was the pic i was talking about gringo. thats yours that sits in that museum or thats your buddy's, i got a little confused.

Zgringo
10-16-2004, 02:21 AM
yeah that was the pic i was talking about gringo. thats yours that sits in that museum or thats your buddy's, i got a little confused.

It was, I gave it by request to Wally Parks when I went to Korea, knowing it would be outdated when I got back, and my Dad didn't want to store it in his garage. Ed and his brother Dick? and a guy Butler, don't remember the names I'll have to go and see if I can find out the names, built it and I owned it and drove it for 3 years then gave it to the 3 guys when I went into flight training and they run it for a year and wanted to put it in my Dad's garage. He said no way so I had Ed Cortipassi (sp) give it to the museum. My sister downloaded that picture for me for my birthday and it almost made me cry. That was the first time i'd seen the car for 48 years. She got the picture in the National Hotrod mag. story about cars from the past.

k3smostwanted
10-16-2004, 02:32 AM
oh i see.

ZedEx
10-16-2004, 10:39 AM
Woah... This is one of those fun threads :D

Every calm down... No more talk of pissing down eachothers windpipes ok? :lol:

Lets stay on the topic at hand.

-Wes

Zgringo
10-16-2004, 01:29 PM
Woah... This is one of those fun threads :D

Every calm down... No more talk of pissing down eachothers windpipes ok? :lol:

Lets stay on the topic at hand.

-Wes

Sorry Wes, Got carried away with people making statments without facts and direct attacts on me.

JCCR
10-16-2004, 03:03 PM
Now for your claim that SGP has one of the fastest Zed's, it's a good one but no prize today. Here's a NA that runs in the 9's when this was written he was running in the 10's

YES BUT THAT Z IS NOT A DAILY DRIVER!! AND WITH ALL THAT NOS ANYBODY CAN CLAIM THOSE NUNBERS.

AND NONE OF THE CARS BELOW ARE FASTER THAN THE ONE I POSTED
http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_drag_lists/drag_lists.html


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