N/A 300zx or SVT Contour


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jfarrell
09-27-2004, 10:04 AM
I am considering either a N/A 300zx or an SVT Contour. Both are V6, but contour is 4 doors and has 200hp but does 0-60 in about the same time. I need something to push me over the edge on one or the other. I also don't know if I want to buy an N/A 300zx because its not TT.

freakonaleash1187
09-27-2004, 10:09 AM
*don't blow up on him, don't blow up on him*

okay, lets see here. a contour is a family sedan, and a 300zx is a sports car. this is a hard choice?

-Jared

Hodo
09-27-2004, 11:36 AM
The Z looks better, and there are more parts available for it, and a larger cult following for the Z32(NA) than the Contour SVT. Ford also kill that car for a reason, sales sucked on that car, it was like the Focus SVT, WHOLE lot of potential, but no one at the factory took advantage of it. I left Ford because they have lost base with what worked, they are now just flailing around reaching for what ever will save their sinking ship. Its sad really becuase I love Ford, my Escort was the best little car I ever owned, not to mention the only front wheel drive car I have ever owned.


Oh and the SVT Contour is FWD/FF, The Z is RWD/FR. it depends on your tastes, if you like FFs, then get the Contour, if you like the power to the rear, then go Zed!

Karen512
09-27-2004, 11:43 AM
okay, lets see here. a contour is a family sedan, and a 300zx is a sports car. this is a hard choice?

-Jared


Jared is right on this one.
Z's and Contours are two COMPLETELY different cars! :iceslolan
They both will handle and drive differently. It depends on what you really want the car for, and what you can afford.
If the car is for looks and preformance and you can spare the money on upkeep, by all means get the Z! But if you are just wanting some car, please dont get a Z car.

1viadrft
09-27-2004, 11:52 AM
Contour's are for pussies....

Karen512
09-27-2004, 11:54 AM
oh and another thing...

I suggest you be somewhat mehaniclly inclinded if you are going to have a Z or have some extra cash saved up for maintenence. Z's need lots of love and care, but they are soooooo worth it! :iceslolan

kman10587
09-27-2004, 11:57 AM
Why the hell would you post this in the 'Past Z Cars' section? You're gonna get a bunch of biased answers. Post this in 'Car Comparisons' please.

Hodo
09-27-2004, 12:04 PM
some of you all are just being plain harsh, he just asked a question and personally I think he came to the right place. Its better than the car comparison becuase there you get a million HONDA lovers scream BUY A CIVIC! He wanted a honest POV of what we thought of the Zed over the Contour.


So with that said, LAY OFF!!

k3smostwanted
09-27-2004, 02:20 PM
depends on a lot of things...i have gotten beat by one of those damn countour SVT's. i dont think this was stock but who knows. if you want a more maitanence free car by all means go with the newer contour SVT but if you want something that looks good than go with the z32. if you dont absolutely love the z i wouldnt reccomend getting one because your gonna get up with the little odds and ends that go wrong with these cars. plus the contour can be used all year around depending on where you live your not going to want to take your z out on a snowy cruise.

DeleriousZ
09-27-2004, 02:56 PM
Buy A Civic!!

Hodo
09-27-2004, 05:32 PM
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Ha ha, integra.....

jfarrell
09-27-2004, 11:11 PM
Is the 300zx N/A any faster than the SVT? SVT has 200, 300zx has 222. Is one even faster than the other? I like both, 300zx is a classic but it won't be turbo and I don't think it not being turbo will be worth it.

DeleriousZ
09-27-2004, 11:21 PM
hp isn't everything you know... you have to compare the hp, tq, weight... 0-60, top speed, power curve, drivetrain, aftermarket support, ease of maintinence, your mechanical abilities, your plans for the car...

all that said.. you'll be much happier with the zx

k3smostwanted
09-27-2004, 11:36 PM
id go with the z but i actually think that a SVT contour will take a automatic Z. i dont know about the manual beings the automatic n/a z32's tend to have very sloppy shifts.

igota20hpweedeater
09-27-2004, 11:41 PM
hahaha, u dont really hear that every day...should i get a ford contour or a 300zx. The 300zx is so much better Engineered than the ford contour. As mentioned before, 300zx's are for true fans not for people wanting a fast car for straight line racing. The ford will cost less to maintain,yet,the 300zx just looks so much better and will turn more heads.

Hodo
09-28-2004, 04:09 PM
The AT Z32 doesnt have sloppy shifts............ lol ;P

jfarrell
09-29-2004, 12:05 AM
Is buying an N/A 300zx like buying a V6 mustang? Or is a N/A 300zx almost as good as a TT. Ehh... Maybe not.

k3smostwanted
09-29-2004, 12:16 AM
an n/a 300zx is kinda like buying a v6 mustang only because it is the cheaper version of a the TT and the mustang is the cheaper version of the GT or any othe model. But then again the 300zx is still a nice car and is decently quick so i wouldnt compare it to a v6 mustang.

Zgringo
09-29-2004, 12:24 AM
K3 your very right, no way to compare it to a V6 mustang. 10 times more car

freakonaleash1187
09-29-2004, 12:48 AM
i beat a mustang that is 10 years newer than me. so not only is the z a nicer car, it is also faster.

-Jared

k3smostwanted
09-29-2004, 01:20 AM
agreed...

DBSS_Gohan
09-29-2004, 09:35 AM
Ok, why dont we just say, Buying an N/A Z32 Is like buing a mustang GT, and Buying a Z32 TT is like buying a Mustang Cobra? Does that suit it better?

k3smostwanted
09-29-2004, 11:09 AM
a little better but still a mustang shouldnt be compared at all because it cant do half of the stuff a z32 can. for example, take corners like a pro, get looks everytime you hop in it, increase your sex life by 75%.

Zgringo
09-29-2004, 02:41 PM
K3 couldn't have sayed it better myself, but increase your SEX life? Were talking about a car, not Viagra.

longlivetheZ
09-30-2004, 09:29 PM
300zx's are for true fans not for people wanting a fast car for straight line racing.

Um...no...???...they can do it because they are extremely well balanced, but the 1/4 is not their intended use.

this is a hard choice?

Yea dude...come on...have you SEEN the contour?

Contour's are for pussies....

What was in the back of my mind...

i have gotten beat by one of those damn countour SVT's

Unless that bitch is WAY modded, this is when I go back to the drawing boards...:p

All in all...if you want a sports car, the Z is the ONLY way to go...if you're looking for a grocery getter, could I interest you in a Neon SRT-4? SRT-4 is a 100X more than the ford for one HELL of a price. I just HATE FWD...

igota20hpweedeater
09-30-2004, 09:43 PM
I have a 99 v6 mustang and a 91 300zx, the mustang is nothing compared to the 300zx. The mustang is only used for when the 300zx is getting worked on. The mustang cant handle worth jack sh!t!!! So much body roll, the 300zx on the other hand wants to be driven hard around hairpin corners and curves. As mentioned before...the 300zx isnt meant to be a 1/4 mile racer but rather an all round touring car, but if u did want to kick some ass....get on the highway!

longlivetheZ
09-30-2004, 09:47 PM
Ok, why dont we just say, Buying an N/A Z32 Is like buing a mustang GT, and Buying a Z32 TT is like buying a Mustang Cobra? Does that suit it better?

Ehhh....I'm....

jfarrell
09-30-2004, 10:21 PM
Man, is it even worth buying a N/A 300zx? If i got one I'd get the 5spd of course. But are they good enough to buy or is the TT just the good 300zx? I don't know if its good enough

longlivetheZ
09-30-2004, 10:28 PM
Again...depends on what you plan on using the car for. If you don't WANT...or NEED the power or potential, then why get the TT? Costs more...to buy, maintain and drive/own...why go that route if you're just gunna use it to pick up groceries?

jfarrell
09-30-2004, 10:47 PM
Man, I am not going to be picking up groceries. I am going to be driving it here, there and everywhere. I am 16 years old, I don't buy groceries. I would LOVE to have that 300hp and the sound and sexiness of the twin turbos. I have always loved 300zx, my wallet just isn't too large. I'm 16 I have a great job but to save up 10,000 would take like 2 years.

freakonaleash1187
09-30-2004, 11:15 PM
Man, is it even worth buying a N/A 300zx? If i got one I'd get the 5spd of course. But are they good enough to buy or is the TT just the good 300zx? I don't know if its good enough

:headshake

no, its not worth buying a 300zx n/a. go get something else if you care so much about horsepower.:rolleyes:

-Jared

k3smostwanted
09-30-2004, 11:21 PM
dude go with the n/a or go with a z31 turbo. both are about equally as fast. at 16 years old you dont need much more power than a n/a 300zx. if you want more power just throw some nitrous on it. when you turn 18 and you decide that you want more power just save up a few thousand dollars and due an engine swap. also, consider this...n/a 300zx 5 speed 2 seater can easily run high 14's with just a few mods. high 14's ables you to take out 95% of the cars on the road. i have seen guys running mid 14's and better with an n/a.

bottom line...buy the sexy z32 n/a and then when you get them money just do some basic mods.

jfarrell
10-01-2004, 10:37 AM
no, its not worth buying a 300zx n/a. go get something else if you care so much about horsepower.

Horsepower is not all that I care about, I want a fast, fun car that is worth what I pay for. I don't want a car that is slow and can handle like a dream. I also don't want a superfast car that can't turn, those are called Top Fuel Dragsters. If I can find a good priced, good condition z32 I will spend my money to get one. It seems to be the best bet. I was thinking more along the lines of a pontiac fiero! Have you seen those things...Whew! super car! :worshippy :thumbsdow

Hodo
10-01-2004, 03:29 PM
Well at 16 for a Z32 TT your going to pay a arm and a leg and your first born child in insurance. For the NA you will only pay a arm and leg.

freakonaleash1187
10-01-2004, 04:15 PM
For the NA you will only pay a arm and leg.

so so true, my insurance is almost as much as my car payment. the n/a is plenty fast enough, add a few mods and you will beat most cars out there. i just hate it when people put down the n/a just becuase there is a tt.

-Jared

1viadrft
10-01-2004, 04:17 PM
A Z32 is too much for a 16 yr.old kid... he still smells of milk...

freakonaleash1187
10-01-2004, 04:20 PM
it is too much for me?

-Jared

1viadrft
10-01-2004, 05:28 PM
Are you 16?

freakonaleash1187
10-01-2004, 05:35 PM
ummm, yeah, i have said it quite a few times before. now don't go treating my like a punk teenager now, becuase if you do, that is just ignorance.

-Jared

1viadrft
10-01-2004, 06:35 PM
Kids... they grow up fast... then wanna be kids again when they are grown... tsk-tsk...

Don't get your thong (or whatever you youngins wear nowadays) in a bunch... I'm just kidding with you, kid... err... son.... boy..... padawan....... I'm just yanking your chain! I was not even refferring to you at first until you got all psycho! At your age I guess it understandble! Premature ejaculation can leave scars... LoL

jfarrell
10-01-2004, 07:30 PM
What would you rather own a 300zx? A a 16 year old with taste in cars and not going to make it "bad ass" with the largest wing and goofiest body kit. Or someone who is going to completey trash the car with all sorts of retarded things and bring the 300zx name down. I won't wreck mine either I have respect for machinerary. Go RICE.

k3smostwanted
10-01-2004, 09:21 PM
this forum is all about big wings and just making your car look fast...go take a look at that shogun kit they make for the z32. tis hot shit son.

anyways...yeah go z man. i dont think a z32 is too much for a 16 year old that has experience with cars. i think it would be a little overwhelming for a z32 to be driven by a girl that the closest she has been behind the wheel of a car is a battery powered barbie corvette. good luck and dont let anything scare you away from what you really want. if you want a contour, buy a contour. if you want a z buy a z.

longlivetheZ
10-01-2004, 10:17 PM
Dude...if you're 16 and buy a Z32TT, you'll kill yourself...I promise...at the VERY least, you'll drive the car into the ground and kill IT instead. Do NOT buy that fast of car...for the love of cars and everyone else on the roads...you'll be a lethal weapon with a car of that caliber. Get a Z31 N/A or 2+2...great starter car, will run forever with minimal maintanence, cheap and easy to get ahold of, less on insurance, and it'd be a bit tougher to kill yourself in. One reason I say what I say...I've been there...Z31 2+2 was my first car and I regret selling it to this day. Get one of those, put a killer system in it, maybe do some suspention mods, keep it clean and save money for when you get older, smarter and less insane on the road.

Broke_as_****
10-01-2004, 10:23 PM
I'm of the opinion to buy the TT, upgrade it to "Mid-level tactical nuclear warhead" territory and go to hell happy.



But I'm off my nut so don't listen to me. I'm bad for you.

DeleriousZ
10-01-2004, 11:28 PM
yeah, broke should have a "hazardous to your health" sign tagged on all his posts... just as a safety procaution.. i learnt on an acura 1.6 el... it's pretty speedy for a grocery getter, but i had no problem learning on it... now it's no rwd nuclear powered rocket, but... aw hell i don't know where i'm going with this...
anyway, don't start off with the tt... find a nice z32 n/a... get used to driving it, learn all the ins and outs of rwd and such... then either sell the n/a and buy a tt or get a front clip from wessy and do the swap... either way, get used to the car before you put the foot to the floor... and whatever you do.. please don't destroy it with the huge ass wings and ass ugly body kits.. our z's are rare enough as it is..

Broke_as_****
10-01-2004, 11:41 PM
yeah, broke should have a "hazardous to your health" sign tagged on all his posts... just as a safety procaution.

Done.

DeleriousZ
10-01-2004, 11:41 PM
hahaha awesome:thumbsup:

Broke_as_****
10-01-2004, 11:54 PM
Now made even better: Daily threat level warnings

Anyway, if you can't afford the NA Z32, look around for a 240SX. Another great car though no where around the NA Z32s level, they may be cheaper, or if another Initial D video has come out, they may be more expensive. Anyway, if you can afford the NA Z32, go that route and much joy and good karma shall come to you.

DeleriousZ
10-01-2004, 11:55 PM
(and by karma... he means women)

Broke_as_****
10-01-2004, 11:58 PM
Well that too. Its a well known fact that:

Z32 = tail magnet

jfarrell
10-02-2004, 10:04 AM
Everyone loves "tail". If I got a 240sx I wouldn't keep it stock for long because they are slow as snails. The pro of the 240 is that it is RWD and you got to love RWD. I would at least try to obtain one of those monster machine SR20DET. or something like that. BUT you won't get as much tail with a 240. so 300zx wins. Hands down. Faster with chances of more ass, if i don't screw it up

longlivetheZ
10-02-2004, 04:05 PM
I suggested the Z31 because the Z32...most likely na or tt...will be really high for a 16 yr old...definately so for the tt. My insurance wasn't too horrible when I got my first Z31, but it was pretty steap...I'm not sure if the newer, more powerful, more expensive...yet safer Z32 would be more or not...insurance confuses the hell out of me.

jfarrell
10-03-2004, 09:33 AM
What is good mileage to buy a Z32? I don't want to buy one with 250,000 miles, but what is a good amount to buy with? like 80,000?

freakonaleash1187
10-03-2004, 10:20 AM
depends on what you want to pay. if you don't want to pay more than $7k, then plan on getting one with over 100k miles. but the vg, if taken care of, will last 200k miles. just don't hurry up and buy the first one you see, take your time.

-Jared

longlivetheZ
10-03-2004, 11:18 AM
They'll last vitually forever...here's a good rule of thumb for you. 5-10K per year = low milage, 10-15K per year = average mileage, 15-20K per year is getting up there a bit, 20K+ per year = I probably wouldn't mess with it...there are exceptions to these rules, of course, but this is a pretty good rule of thumb. So...if you find a 1992 with 100K on it, that's not too bad...12 yr old car...that's less than 10K per year...probably has a lot more in it. Just a guideline, but it helps. Also, www.kbb.com is the industry standard for finding a car's value. Check the price of what you're looking at there.

freakonaleash1187
10-03-2004, 11:22 AM
kelly blue book underestimates the z a lot. you can try using that when you talk to the seller, but if the seller knows what he is doing, he will sell it for mor than the kbb listed value.

-Jared

longlivetheZ
10-03-2004, 11:35 AM
He may TRY to sell it for more...the kbb guys kinda help when it comes to buying a Z cuz you can use their low ball number to your advantage sometimes...even though we all know it's probably worth more. What you have to keep in mind though is that there will always be someone willing to pay more for the same car than the next guy...you just have to find the right person...

Broke_as_****
10-04-2004, 12:05 AM
Try going to Autotrader.com and seeing what equivilant cars are going for. KBB is pretty good but the direct source is usually more accurate. If you can't find the right person, kidnap a stranger, brainwash them and make them the right person. Then do that a 100 million times and create a living zombie army to do your bidding.

jfarrell
10-04-2004, 09:43 AM
You know that zombie army thing doesn't sound too bad! I will have them steal 300zx and 350z. I shall hand them out accordingly not to some faggot who wants the eifel tower on the back of it. Thanks for that "chart", longlive. I will use that when purchasing a car...I hope i can find one under 100,000! That would be ideal, the bad thing is that there are ZERO 300zx's for sale around here none in auto trader none in any of the local car magazine things. Ill probably have to drive a few hundred miles to find one that is in good shape.

HAVOK_Z32
10-04-2004, 11:11 AM
SVT or Z32????????

My first Z was a 1992 NA Z32 2+2 that I bought as my first Rwd at the age of 24. I'd have to agree with everyone else when they say that at 16yrs old the Z is too much car and that "most"(not all) kids at that age wont respect power of this car. However... The SVT can be made into a extreamly sick NA killer. True F@#$ing Story.

Back when I had my frist Z32( I have a 1993 Z32TT now) I use to do alot of drag racing and drag racing in Seattle.
** :nono: NOTE: Z32 is not made for DRAG Racing!!!!! :nono: **
I remember this one dude with this SVT Ford Taurus who would always seem to smoke the Hell out of the honda's as if they were standing still. It was pretty damn funny thinking back on it... Until the one time I got bored and raced this dude myself and had my ass handed to me :eek7: . Not I had a full Greddy cat-back and JWT ECU and Apex intake on my NA and thought that I was King Sh!t at the track. I found out later that the SVT was packing a 50 shot NOS kit and a flowmaster muffler!!! WTF! :banghead:
I have to give that car It's props. During that time the only other real competition I'd have was from the mustangs, BMW M3', and Corvettes.
I wont sleep on the SVT anymore but my TT has added more of an insurance policy of that ever happening again thou. :smokin:

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