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Did someone say performance?willimo 08-10-2004, 08:35 PM The lightest car I can find crammed with the one motor that has the most power to weight that I can think of. Lotus 7 and a Honda F20C. Of course, it needed a brake upgrade and the whole rear end had to be redone to take the power. And there will be a lot of cutting of the car and it's hood to get the tall motor to fit, but it'll be worth it. Oh, and this is not normal F20C, it's gonna have individual throttle bodies and a 4-2-1 header making it nice and heavy breathing, and keep throttle response instant. Not a particularly complex project at fist glance, but the Lotus is tiny, and the F20C is surprisingly large. So there's a long way to go on this one. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus704.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus703.jpg slk320 08-10-2004, 08:39 PM wow! looking good, great concept! BRM 08-10-2004, 08:44 PM very cool. Can't wait to see more progress. supratuner 08-10-2004, 08:55 PM thats pretty cool geofroley 08-10-2004, 09:00 PM Doesn't S27 make an F20C, but label it as S2000 engine? Correct me if I'm wrong, not too big on Hondas. willimo 08-10-2004, 09:22 PM Yes, because the F20C is the motor that lives in the S2000. tonioseven 08-10-2004, 09:29 PM Awesome stuff!!:sunglasse StephenDeli 08-10-2004, 09:53 PM Sounds like a really cool project! 675datsun 08-10-2004, 10:12 PM A very, very interesting project Will! I'm busting because it reminds me of my SR20 swap into the Datsun. Tell me more about the quad throttle bodies...aftermarket item or fabbed? Will the injectors be wired :naughty: What did you have to mod in the rear end/suspension? Is the 7 a left/right hand drive? Do you have to mod the steering column for clearance? You are the man if you cast that F20C :) I like the way you think! CADguy 08-10-2004, 10:17 PM Great project! Very creative. I like the cycle fender conversion. customminatures 08-10-2004, 11:15 PM thats gonna be pimp daddy cool! Never thought of a revamp like that! Much props for bringing the monster out of that 1! any color ideas? Newer colors or traditional colors? willimo 08-10-2004, 11:28 PM A very, very interesting project Will! I'm busting because it reminds me of my SR20 swap into the Datsun. Tell me more about the quad throttle bodies...aftermarket item or fabbed? Will the injectors be wired :naughty: What did you have to mod in the rear end/suspension? Is the 7 a left/right hand drive? Do you have to mod the steering column for clearance? You are the man if you cast that F20C :) I like the way you think! The throttle bodies I made myself. Some styrene rod, some styrene sheet, some styrene strip for the bodies themselves (some widgetry, unfortunately), I stuck a thin wire through all four to control the butterfly valves, and used a velocity stack as provided in the Tamiya kit as the throttle valve thing... the part that attaches to the cable that hooks to the go pedal. You know what I mean. Then I used Sakatsu turned aluminum velocity stacks, and some aluminum tube for the runners. You can see it on the hood in the pics, needs detail paint and the flange to bolt to the head still. The mods to the rear suspension - didn't use a single Lotus part. I have a couple S2000 kits that are being parted out, so I narrowed the S2000 rear end (it's a simple tube job) and stuck it in. Some trial and error and it fit fine. It's right hand drive. At first I cursed it, as I wanted to make it an American racer, but it turns out to be better as it would be harder to rout stuff around the throttle bodies than the header. I have a little more latitude with the header and where I route it. I do, however have to box out the entire footwell from scratch - a total pain as I have to get around the pedals and the F20 tranny (I will actually have to sand away some tranny... shhh!). The actual steering column will need u-jointsto get around the header, which will also be a pain. Yarr! The biggest problem will be the hood. I will need a rather large hump in the hood just to clear the motor, an it will look funny with as far forward as it has to start. Oh well. The price we pay for mad power at the track, eh? And I guess it's good that I never did find the aluminum Sakatsu hood, would've been useless. thats gonna be pimp daddy cool! Never thought of a revamp like that! Much props for bringing the monster out of that 1! any color ideas? Newer colors or traditional colors? Color will be a dark blue, with a black stripe around the nose like Lotus puts on their 7's nowadays. Number roundels on the hood and sides, and British plates, one applied over the nose and a metal one in the back. Thanks for the interest, guys, I have no idea how quickly this will go. The coming semester is going to be brutal, and this is going to be extra complicated. And the exposed nature of the car is going to beg for extra detailing. I smell trouble. Turbo Monster 08-11-2004, 12:36 AM Very sweet willimo. I still remember the comment you made about lemon squares at 4:30 when I joined! I though the racing stripe went aorund the nose, and then straight back the middle of the car? Or was that only on the british racing green w/ yellow stripe super sevens? Snooker 08-11-2004, 05:34 AM Nice car with an even nicer engine. You have to sell these great engines! :D rx7king 08-11-2004, 12:30 PM awesome work! Porsche Carrera 08-11-2004, 12:46 PM Kewl!!! One of my fav cars, can't wait to see more progress. :icon16: dag65 08-11-2004, 01:10 PM Great stuff, I always wanted one of those. GTmike400 08-11-2004, 04:51 PM Awesome project! I'll be following! willimo 08-12-2004, 03:28 AM Steady work but not very fast. I decided to paint it before going further, and since the car is open, most detailing can be done after paint and major assembly, and indeed will be easier. Right now it's in Tamiya gloss aluminum, waiting for blue lacquer through the airbrush tomorrow. That'll give it a nice week before I polish it. This model will probably go months before the hood is made and put on. HLJ just sent my last order from them (I had an outstanding order of a Sakatsu motor, velocity stacks and aluminum hood and I didn't cancel it in time) so I have a hood coming in, I am thinking about somehow pressing the bulge in the hood. Yeah right. You can't tell in the picture but that motor sticks about 2.5mm over the hood, it'll be a big bulge. I'll let it run straight back and have it vent out like a.... whatever hood it is muscle cars get with the vent in front of the windscreen. What else? The hole where the original Lotus 7 exhaust goes will get an bent aluminum sheet scoop, and will wash air over an oil cooler that will nestle under the throttle bodies. I will have to cut a hole in the other side for the new header, but it will be surrounded by an aluminum sheild, so the cuts in the paint will be covered. I'm planning on plumbing the brakes and the clutch, wiring the battery to a fusebox and ECU (though they may be imaginary and in the passenger footwell) and all that jazz. The only thing it needs that I don't have laying around is a "Powered by HONDA decal... though I'm sure if I scour my decal sets I'll find one. Just in case anyone's interested, this probably has a higher percentage of aluminum than an NSX. For a tenth the cost. [/pretending the car is real] Oh yeah. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/DSC01156.jpg willimo 08-12-2004, 03:29 AM I talk a lot late at night. Yuck. ShOrtyOC714 08-12-2004, 04:02 AM Damn those are really nice ITB's! Keep up the good work! :iceslolan willster127 08-12-2004, 01:45 PM Willimo Just a thought, even though it looks like you're pretty far along. In an S2000 this motor is leaned over at an angle to lower the CofG and get the motor lower, isthis possible to reduce the size of the bulge, it may also make the routing of your steering column easier.. Just a thought. slk320 08-12-2004, 04:04 PM looks to be fantastic progress. Is there any chance we can get some close up pics with macros? especially of the engine and velocity stacks? Thanks! GTmike400 08-12-2004, 04:47 PM The hood you described sounds like a cowl induction hood. Also, very nice coffin for the F20...looks better and beter by the minute! willimo 08-12-2004, 11:10 PM Update: I suck at using an airbrush. StephenDeli 08-12-2004, 11:19 PM Elaborate... willimo 08-13-2004, 12:40 AM Not much to it. I used an airbrush, paint sucked. Have to give it another go later geofroley 08-13-2004, 09:58 AM :iamwithst Yeah, I'm a beginner at using an airbrush and I don't get the best paintjobs. . . yet. ywwong 08-13-2004, 10:26 AM how could I miss this thread? man it is awesome! willimo 08-21-2004, 11:28 PM A little back pedalling and then starting back in the right direction. The blue crapjob paint was stripped, and I did the hood while it the rest was in primer. Better idea. This time the car will be green. Unfortunately, in primer, you can't really tell how the hump in the hood looks. Let's just say it big, and funny looking. But I kind of like how it's got to have the big hump to hold all the performance in. I also opened holes in the hood for the intake and the exhaust. Thanks, CADguy for finding me such a great header! Though, my girlfriend called me out in the hobby shop ("Hey, isn't that the kit you want for one part?") and I got a lecture from the car guy there ("You should scratchbuild the header from solder [young lazy punk kid - ed].") Oh well. Looks perfect, though. This car looks really weird with no wheels, by the way. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus706.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus705.jpg And here is something I've been working on on the side, a Buddy Club style kit for the Revell Civics. A long way to go - modelling after a prototype is hard! I'll probably do stuff like this during the coming semester, I won't have time for a full model but for parts, I can probably swing it and it'll be just as soothing. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/BuddyClub01.jpg jswillmon 08-21-2004, 11:34 PM This is one awesome build! I like the whole idea behind it. Great looking bumper on the civic too. CADguy 08-22-2004, 12:13 AM This car looks awesome! :) You're executing your concept to perfection. Those headers are very fitting for sprint cars, salt flat racers, and Super 7's alike ;) GT-Alex 08-22-2004, 06:41 AM I really like the header and the hood. As it's an open wheeler, what about making an airbox like in the F3 euro series ? Something like that: http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/11169820040801155716.jpg If there's enough room with the left wheel on it could add a good "performance" touch, and the engine would like that IMHO. GTmike400 08-22-2004, 09:02 AM Looks like a flinstone car with the markers. Does look great though. customminatures 08-22-2004, 09:41 AM looks awesome man! Hood looks great! gives the car even more of a agressive look! Oh, and the buddy club kit looks sweet also! bigfrit 08-22-2004, 10:11 AM Well, Willimo, I m sorry I seemed to have missed this thread! It's simply stellar what you re trying to achieve here, I hope all goes well and probably we ll see more of the actual bulge when the paint is on! Good work! Olivier stisnan 08-22-2004, 10:59 AM Great looking headers! I also want see more of the buddy club civic. alakai 08-22-2004, 11:10 AM wow, I think you have definitely turned that 7 into a modern day supercar. I think the S2000 mill and rear suspension are a perfect match. keep it up! hondaaccordboy21 08-22-2004, 11:33 AM Nice and nice. Both are looking really good so far! willimo 08-22-2004, 12:33 PM As it's an open wheeler, what about making an airbox like in the F3 euro series ? I like those very much, too, the site I was using to reference the throttle bodies showed those and I was tempted to tell the truth. However, I think I like the velocity stacks better on this one. It may have a modern powerplant and suspension, but it's still a 7 and I kind of want to keep that vintage flair. Plus the four shiny bits add a little visual interst. Good idea, though, maybe next time. On second though, I actually don't think there's room.... wow, I think you have definitely turned that 7 into a modern day supercar. I think the S2000 mill and rear suspension are a perfect match. keep it up! They really are. Except for the big bulge, the engine fits ok, and the rear suspension seems as if it were made to be modified and stuck under the rear. I cut, I think, a 1/4" out of the middle of the suspension, and haven't had to make any other changes. As the build goes on, and I mock up more suspension parts, I begin wonder how much of this compatibility is on accident...? Samurai75007 08-22-2004, 12:35 PM Mmm lookin good. I love this car. I was thinking of doin one with an diffrent engine. anyway looks good. willimo 08-22-2004, 09:02 PM Marathon building. Opening all my seized paint bottles is hurting my hands. Anyway, got some orange-peely paint on it. Painted the seats, painted and assembled the rear end (colorfull!), got the header prepped for paint and detail. Still another 26.2 miles to go. Having some trouble adding a fuel rail and injectors, it's gonna have to hang off the bottome of the throttle bodies, no room on top! Gotta paint the inside all aluminum, tough! I had been planning on putting numbers in roundels on the car, but I fear the Tamiya decal won't be quite opaque enough. I either gotta find a second set or screw it. I was thinking of adding a heat wrap around the header - but not sure, wouldn't know where to end it anyway. So here it is. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus707.jpg customminatures 08-22-2004, 09:04 PM holy crap that looks good! awesome man! I have to get 1 of those! willimo 08-22-2004, 09:25 PM A couple pics with the wheels under it, since I'm putting it away for a while. Stupid college. RRR! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus708.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus709.jpg customminatures 08-22-2004, 09:29 PM man i love this thing! lancerevoRS 08-22-2004, 09:36 PM wow nice! bt yea i was wondering how do u mold the putty to make the buddyclub civic kit?am a newbie at modeling :( willimo 08-23-2004, 02:14 PM bt yea i was wondering how do u mold the putty to make the buddyclub civic kit?am a newbie at modeling :( I didn't mold any putty. Any putty used on it was used only to fill gaps, scratches, pits and mistakes. All the contours were made with plastic stock - strip, sheet and rod. It is much easier to built up the contours, shapes, and edges with plastic than to carve it out of putty. 675datsun 08-23-2004, 03:59 PM Sweet! Can't wait to see the engine detailing complete :smile: ImolaEK 08-23-2004, 10:56 PM Wow, your doing great on this car and on that Buddy Club front bumper. Looks just like it. :) WeaPoN [X] 08-24-2004, 09:08 PM Very NiCE. Can we take a spin when its done. SHOTGUN! JeFF willimo 08-29-2004, 09:39 PM Did a little work this weekend. Slow and steady on this girl. Some motor work, most of the plumbing is done. Still have to add a O2 sensor and bung to the exhaust, wires for the fuel injectors throttle sensor and map sensor and stuff. Have to still prepare the cap that goes on the oil filter hole, and sends oil to the remote cooler. Also have to add the fuel line to the rail and the return line (with a banjo bolt). But mostly the motor is done. Save for the Vtec solenoid, damn I keep forgetting about that bit. Oh well. Here it is, the all-motor F20C. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus711.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus710.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus712.jpg GTmike400 08-29-2004, 09:44 PM Wow. Super detailed! I love the spark plugs, and the headers look superb! ImolaEK 08-29-2004, 09:50 PM Man that is one neat F20C! Loving every bit of it! :iceslolan StephenDeli 08-29-2004, 10:42 PM Nice job Willimo. You attention to detail is amazing. There is something about that header I really like but I dont know what it is! stisnan 08-30-2004, 12:37 AM *Speachless* 675datsun 08-30-2004, 03:16 AM Oh man :) Love those velocity stacks. Out of curiosity, the 4 thingys on the valve cover are spark plugs/coil packs? What happened to the VTEC strip on top, or does that come on later? What size/type wire are you using because it looks so money!! GT-Alex 08-30-2004, 06:42 AM Good job with the wiring, and i love the header too. But didn't you put the A/C compressor in place of the alternator ? labandabonnot 08-30-2004, 07:12 AM *Speachless* :eek: Same for me! The more time I spend here the less word I find to express myself seeing the beautifull models exposed here! And this one is just... Oh god! It looks so fast! And your work is so impressive! :thumbsup: is not enough. (lol, there's been a James Bond last night on TV) willimo 08-30-2004, 11:28 AM Out of curiosity, the 4 thingys on the valve cover are spark plugs/coil packs? What happened to the VTEC strip on top, or does that come on later? What size/type wire are you using because it looks so money!! The for thingies on the valve cover are supposed to be the coils, or at least a reasonable facsimile. I'm not going to use the VTEC strips since most of the real heavy duty performance engines I see do away with pretty stuff like that (extra weight, I suppose) and because it's a photoetch part in the Sakatsu set that I didn't cast. The wire I use is Detail Master, though I can't tell you the size. I just grab what I can at my LHS, bring it home, and use whatever wire looks the right size. Since they are usually funny colors (mostly blue wire was used on this) I paint it with Tamiya acrylic, which is ok if you don't handle it. Some of the vacuum lines are miniature solder, and connecters may be the wires from inside a telephone wire. All painted, of course. But didn't you put the A/C compressor in place of the alternator? I did put the alternator where the A/C compressor normally goes to save some underhood space, but it is indeed the alternator. I figured with the amount of fab work the owner had to do with this, relocationg the alternator wasn't any biggie for him. Thanks for the replies all. I noticed that photobucket is down this morning, hopefully the red X's will turn pretty soon. slk320 08-30-2004, 04:32 PM The wiring and attention to detail is superb.. not nit picking from me :) btw the open mouth stacks look fantastic! tonioseven 08-30-2004, 04:42 PM Truly admirable work!!:sunglasse I'd love to drive a 1:1 version of it!!:) willimo 08-31-2004, 12:16 AM I'd love to drive a 1:1 version of it!!:) All comments are appreciated, but that one is probably the best comment anyone could make on this build. I know I'm not the best buidler (yeah, there's detail but my builds are never clean) so what I strive for is "Man, I want to drive that!" Thanks tonio, you've made my day with that comment. dyowelb 08-31-2004, 01:33 PM willimo, who made those wheels?? i'm currently looking for a set of mini lites but can't find one to use. yours is definitely looking good. a couple more question how did you made those front fender and how are you going to attach them on the body? thanks, d willimo 08-31-2004, 11:33 PM The wheels are XS tuning. Those wheels seem pretty popular lately. So, here is how I am making my cycle fenders. The materials I am using are some rather hard wire, and some plastic sheet. I am using thin plastic to make it easier to bend. I am also using V-groove siding, to also facilitate bending. 1. Cut a strip of plastic just wider than the wheels. I made it about 1-2mm too wide, I can sand the excess off later. The strip I cut goes perpendicular to the grooves in the siding. That is important if you want it to bend easily later. 2. I maked off a length of the strip to use, rather larger than I want in the end, but not long enough to go around the entire wheel. 3. I wrap the strip around a rod of smaller diameter than the wheel. Not too small, though, or the plastic tends to kink. I used a Sharpie marker, since I had it out for marking already. 4. Test fit around the wheel. This one needs to go back to the marker. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Cyclefender01.jpg 5. I used the same plastic to help support the bent plastic, as it won't like to hold the shape on its own. I used the same plastic as I did for the fender itself. Trace the tire on the plastic. 5. Then I cut it out, and cut out the center. I didn't cut it fully a circle as the fender doesn't wrap a full circle around the wheel. This will make it easier to hold later. 8. (The pictures are out of order.) I taped the fender to the tire to hold it round while I.... 7. ....placed the support section on top of the wheel, with a strip of plastic as a spacer. The support is then glued in place. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Cyclefender02.jpg 9. Cut the fender to size, shape it with sandpaper, and trim any excess. I drilled holes in the fender, and in the brake rotor to place wire in for the supports. After paint, I will epoxy it together. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Cyclefender03.jpg Next up: put some shape to the top of the fenders to add a little visual interest, and putty and gaps and flaws. Almost done. CADguy 08-31-2004, 11:46 PM Sweet cycle fender "how to". Thanks! :) The detailed engine is simply awesome. Can't wait to see more. 675datsun 09-01-2004, 12:29 AM You've got the skills to pay the bills Will. The fender how-to should go in the "how-to" section, brilliant fab-work! sjelic 09-01-2004, 03:42 AM Man this is great, I am sorry I didn't see it before (I am one blind full). It looks amazing, real killer, I would love to have that one in 1:1, just to think how it would go, it could even eat some bikes (well not some but most of them). Beautifull! (Ups I just saw that Tonio has same opinion :sorry: , didn't see it, sorry Tonio but I would love to have this one) dyowelb 09-01-2004, 11:52 AM thanks willimo...and thanks for the great 'how-to'... d ImolaEK 09-01-2004, 04:41 PM Man thats some clever how-to. :bigthumb: Awesome! StephenDeli 09-01-2004, 06:01 PM Great how to. It looks so clean. Better hope the front tire doesnt blow up! customminatures 09-01-2004, 07:38 PM like i said in IMs............sweet man! thats pretth much the same way i made the fenders for the ski trailer on the Blazerado build! Jay! 09-02-2004, 10:24 PM You've got the skills to pay the bills Will. The fender how-to should go in the "how-to" section, brilliant fab-work! Done. :D http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=270910 willimo 09-08-2004, 12:04 AM Kinda cobbled some stuff together over the past few days. Took advantage of the labor day holiday to cut the orange peel down and respray. This coat took and will need an easy polish. I likely won't clear it - so it has that cool painted but not polished club racer look. I also did the dash, integrating the S2000 instrument cluster into it (Can't really tell in the pics. They suck this time, I'm kinda tired.) and I did the clutch/brake pedal/reservoir assembly. I used some flocking to simulate the fluid sock thingies that absorb overflowing fluids and keep the track clean. I am mildly pleased with results. Anyway, enjoy the dark pics. No real point in the update except that I want to cry. School is eating me alive. Three day weekend and that's all I got accomplished... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus714.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus713.jpg Macdaddy4738 09-08-2004, 12:18 AM kinda reminds me of a 1930 ish open car desert racer....like an old maserati (SP) or bugatti...but then again it is a Lotus 7... http://www.schweiger-carparts.de/Museum/auto7.jpg this is a great model! It looks freakin awesome man! 675datsun 09-08-2004, 01:28 AM Fantastic! The hood bulge looks natural..in a "guess what I have under here" kinda way :grinno: Love the brake m/c detail, give me some close-ups man! And the fact that you incorporated the S2000 gauge cluster...it's so grassroots, so club racer...why mess with aftermarket gauges and re-wiring, when it's already set-up for you? :naughty: Good stuff Will ps. school is for suckers go get a job :biggrin: CADguy 09-08-2004, 11:08 AM It's coming along great. What are your plans for the wheels? Will they stay white? Yellow wheels may look good with the racing green, and bring out the Lotus in this cool lil Honda.. :) What paint did you use on the header. It's so shiny.. willimo 09-08-2004, 03:23 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus715.jpg You can kinda see the flocking there. It's a little out of scale in my opinion, my number one reason I don't like flocking. I thought it might work here, but it didn't work as well as I would have liked. They're blue, though, like the Spoon ones. Wee! I had planned to paint the wheels with Testor's Magnezium buffing metalizer, like Veyron did on his super clean Fiat, because that's just a gorgeous color for rims, but I haven't found any of that paint around. My hobby shop used to sell it but not anymore. Yellow, though, doesn't sound bad at all... kinda give it that F1 flare, eh? The header is Alclad Chrome - that stuff rocks! So simple, I can almost use it! GTmike400 09-08-2004, 04:42 PM Paint looks much better. Good job so far? Oh, I think your hood has a mosquito bite. StephenDeli 09-08-2004, 05:10 PM That S2000 dash is just too cool willimo. Keep up the good work! sjelic 09-09-2004, 02:43 AM Nicer and nicer, Yellow wheels also remind me of one great Italian ride :) , but I am sure you will chose the right one since you made this dream come true. Keep it up. stryfe101 09-09-2004, 10:20 AM willimo this is an awesome project..i've skipped this thread over and I don't know why...this is my style of car..sort of hot rod ish, sort of road racerish. I've been in planning stages of a similar build using the amt ala-kart kit with new suspension and a modern turbo 4 banger. I really like the hood bulge...it sets off the way the car looks. It gives it a nice 60's fighter jet look to the nose, very aggressive. Keep up the fine work man. Gray Martbee 09-09-2004, 11:19 AM Pretty sweet...always loved that car... or Kart ! So go on, your is awesome. willimo 09-16-2004, 01:59 AM The hurricane, the one that hasn't even rained a drop on me, scared LSU into shutting down for today and tomorrow (as long as they don't screw with football this weekend....) so I've had the opportunity to do some work on my Lotus and on another project sure to knock ya'll's socks off. Anywho, the Lotus is coming together, it seems. The hood doesn't fit quite right, but I couldn't find any positive locators for the front of the cowl. I blame that part. The motor, the battery... well everything there except the wheels has been attached. I still need to build the brakes and paint the wheels before it can "roll." What's left? Brakes, wheels, roll bar, decals, and sundry wiring and plumbing. Hopefully I can get most of it done tomorrow. Hooray! I have a couple queries though - vintage wood steering wheel, or modern wheel? And I kinda dig the front without the cycle fenders... yay or nay? And should I leave the fenders black or cover them in CF? I think CF would tie the modern in really well. We'll see. Thanks for looking, comments and advice encouraged! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus716.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus717.jpg 675datsun 09-16-2004, 02:08 AM Fantastic progress Will! I'd say go with a wood steering wheel(Moto-Lita style), but it might not complement the s2k dash. How'd you make the yellow-top Optima style battery? It looks spot on! I like it with the fenders on black/body color. Maybe the wheels painted off-white would work? Kinda like a BRG Mini Cooper S with a white top/wheels...I could be lame on that though :iceslolan Killer wiring job, and the throttle bodies keep looking hotter :smile: ywwong 09-16-2004, 02:21 AM how could I miss this thread??? oh man.. it is nicE!! willimo 09-16-2004, 02:24 AM How'd you make the yellow-top Optima style battery? It looks spot on! Just like you did!!! Thanks for the words, all. GT-Alex 09-16-2004, 04:07 AM Excellent work on the engine will ! I like the idea of the wooden wheel, and i'd say go with the fenders, or the driver would hate you on a wet track ! sjelic 09-16-2004, 07:02 AM The engine is wow, like everything else. I would go with modern wooden steering wheel (something like Alfa 156), fenders must be there but I like the CF idea, anyway how ever you make it I will love it :) hrmodeler 09-16-2004, 07:59 AM It's looking great! rx7king 09-16-2004, 08:39 AM holy shit! look at that engine:eek2: CADguy 09-16-2004, 12:09 PM It looks great Will. I say use less modern equipment. The vintage steering wheel and black cycle fenders will add to the 'sleeper' look this car has when the hood is in place. Some magnesium wheels would look killer with the interior colors. :wink: I like the passenger window down. Nice touch. nis.k.a. 09-16-2004, 12:15 PM Awesome job thus far! Steering wheel - I say good compromise between both. Something like a modern Nardi with wood ring but modern inset. I know the Initital D SilEighty has the exact optional steering wheel I have in mind. Of course, the wood would have to be SM or something. Fenders - I like it either way. I like the fenders if driving through wet pavement. :) Bas Carwash 09-16-2004, 01:38 PM Why, why did I miss this awesome thread!!! Awesome build Willimo. I like it a lot! F20C engine is hot :thumbsup: 86_SR5 09-16-2004, 02:03 PM Haven't said anything till now, and the reason is, I'd have run out of adjectives to describe how great this car is. I think I remember you posting something in the main forum about it, and I suggested a Supercharged V8. The car is excellent, I love every little detail you've done to this, everything from the aluminum velocity stacks to the optima battery (how'd you do it?) it all looks great. The green, well, its growing on me, the fenders are kick ass, the wheels, leave em white! I really love it all, now if we could just get a supercharged 454 in there... lol! Great build Will, keep it up, and lets see some more civics, maybe one with the, ah hem, f20 ? GTmike400 09-16-2004, 04:09 PM Looks great Will! Definately a great project. I see you're working right on your notes, :lol: Oh yea, hows the paint on those fenders? :evillol: StephenDeli 09-16-2004, 04:36 PM This looks awsome Willimo! That engine deserves a 10/10! I would loose the fenders myself... I think without them it gives the car a more sporty open wheel racer kinda look. But then again it is tough to make that decision without seeing the car with them. ImolaEK 09-16-2004, 06:10 PM holy shit! look at that engine:eek2: Exactly, look at that engine! One of the best Honda' Engines i've seen built! SchuberT 09-16-2004, 07:45 PM I like the fenders... I think they should be in CF if you decide to use them. willimo 09-17-2004, 12:26 AM [post whoring] One day closer! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/willimo/Lotus718.jpg Got a few parts on order and in the mail, should be done for the local contest on the 25th (I hope I hope!!) [/post whoring] GTmike400 09-17-2004, 11:26 AM Looking great Will. As usual, you're working on your notes. :lol: The paint looks great, what if it... :evillol: (<-Inside Joke). Jay! 09-17-2004, 03:03 PM "Her vast chest betrayed..." :eek: slk320 09-17-2004, 04:18 PM I saw that too :naughty: he is writting porn... BTW nice model :p willimo 09-17-2004, 04:30 PM Nah. My second hobby is short fiction. I have about a dozen of these pads around my apartment so when I catch a visual I can jot it down. "He remembers seeing her at the bar the other night. The girl who flirted then was coy with him in class. what's her name? Judy Fluffy? he thinks, startled and grinning. No, her real name just reminds him of dryer sheets, he tries to remember it: Downey. Judy Downey. At the bar she took a drink, and smiled up at a boy he went to high school with. Her vast chest betrayed by arms round in cross section, but aided by drawn almond eyes and well prepped hair. She smiles at his comments and sips. Floozy." SchuberT 09-17-2004, 09:16 PM Sexy, some good stuff there.... vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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