Ferrari

if u cant tell what type of ferrari it is thats bad on my part.

pic was done freehand and took about 1hr30min or so.

didnt get to finish but maybe later.

any suggestions/comments is welcomed.

sry bout the small size. 80kb size limit.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/uploads/123591/ferrarismall.jpg

thats looking pretty good, and thats a pretty hard angle aye man, keep it up

looks good, wheres the rear wheel? looks good.

it looks sorta rounded, but it is a hard angle and it is good

Anyone who didn't know that Ferrari doesn't know thier cars! Good job, like the others said its a hard angle, but you did it well and your smooth lines are good aswell. A bit too rounded also, but you have talent. Try shading. Btw, the 80k size limit, use high quality images then convert the file to JPEG usually works, but if not use imageshack.us for much larger limits.

yea, angle was a lil tricky but it'll all come together when its done.

thanx for the replies, anyone else?

Looks good, basic proportions are down. This is just one of those cars that has more angles then curves, fix that.

This is just one of those cars that has more angles then curves, fix that.

don't think im understandin what u sayin GTmike400. In the pic the car is curvey. Maybe I'm just misunderstandin what u mean by angles.

Then Enzo is more of "sharper" car. In your drawing it looks "bubbley". There need to be more "rigid" lines.

Good pic, really hard angle. But i like what you did. Looks cool. Keep it like that. But it is a bit bubbly...

Good, but I think the right end is missing? Nice work.

post the original.

well, worked on it a lil bit to get it as edgy as possible without messin it up. does it still look 'bubbly'?

remember, pic aint finished n i removed sum stuff to get a better view.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/uploads/123591/nobubbles.jpg

It is still a bit bubbly, try squaring off the left rear end where the back wheel is supposed to be... where is the rear wheel? It's getting better just work on it a bit more. good work.

theres no rear wheel because the angle that its at the back wheels aint visible. I'll scan a copy of the original n you'll understand.

anyone else?

Ok, scan the image.

Yes, then we can go into further detail about what to correct. At the moment it looks like the photo was taken with some funky lens, but until we see the ref pic I can't be sure whats wrong with it. Oh yeah, one thing, the wheel looks too small now compared to the first one you posted. Is that right?

Ra_15 it is small but i havent started a damn thing on the wheel yet, even the outline is old n i extended the front just a LITTLE bit so the tire outline needs to be redrawn.

Ref pic will be up in a sec guys sorry for the wait.

ok, sorry for takin long but heres the update.

Ref pic is shown below and also the pic as it is ATM. worked out a few more minor details tryin to get the proportion right before i do any more work to it so i dont have to backtrack...again.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/123591orig.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/uploads/123591/fixed.jpg

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The front's allright, the back isnt. It goes too far back. The side window is too long, and you need to straighten the back lines. Not to bad though, as it is a difficult ref pic.

I see what u talkin bout Ra_15, should have noticed it sooner but didnt have it in me to sit down n put in more work to it. I'll fix it right now, anyone else?

check out front fender. it actually arcs inward. not flaring out like your pencil drawing so far.

front "beak" of car (hood area) of photo: is longer and straighter/curves gradually. ---yours: beak curves downward abruptly and dramatically. too curved. too nubby.

use grid method. or project lines to horizon and establish projection lines. since you have not done either, placement of areas and parts, as well as shapes of regions of the body, will be problematic no matter how much you eyeball it.

you are brave to tackle this angle and this body style.

thanx bonzelite for the review. I notice what u mean, and i think thats my punishment for tryin to get the car done too quickly. When i get some free time i'll go over it again n fix that.

anyone else notice sumthin out of the ordinary?

when you begin using the grid, and/or projection lines, you will find a lot more things throughout the piece. keep this sketch and compare it to a more accurate drawing, if you still retain the interest to do this particular one. ;)

i actually saw a copy of this car at last season's LA auto show. was red. the thing looks more like an aircraft than a car. i believe it is a V-12 or V-16, mid-engine. i think the guy at the booth said it was about $800,000.

correct me if i'm in error, but i think he said it had 800 hp. like an F1 car.

when you begin using the grid, and/or projection lines, you will find a lot more things throughout the piece.

never heard of grid or projection before, mostly I just pick up a blank sheet of paper n start drawing freehand with a #2 pencil, is there links for findin out more about it?

there is nothing wrong with freehanding, as i do it constantly. but you will benefit, as is evident in your drawing, from technical ability. you don't need to become an engineer, but you will be a stronger draftsman.

there are links. i am busy working right now. so i will cite them later.

btw, the car doesn't have 800 bhp, heres the stats just for the curious.
General specifications
Country of origin Italy
Year of introduction 2002
Introduced at 2002 Paris Motorshow
Numbers built 399 + 1
Body design Pininfarina

Engine
Configuration Mid, longitudinally mounted F140 65º V12
Construction alloy block and head
Displacement 5.998 liter / 366.0 cu in
Bore / Stroke 92.0 mm (3.6 in) / 75.2 mm (3.0 in)
Compression ratio 11.2:1
Valvetrain 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Bosch Motronic ME7 Fuel injection
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated

Drivetrain
Chassis/body carbon fibre body on carbon fibre monocoque
Suspension double wishbones, pushrod dampers
Steering rack-and-pinion, power assisted
Brakes ceramic / carbon discs, all-round
Gearbox Paddle operated 6 Speed Sequential , Rear wheel drive

Dimensions
Weight 1365 kg / 3009.3 lbs
Length / Width / Height 4702 mm (185.1 in) / 2035 mm (80.1 in) / 1147 mm (45.2 in)
Wheelbase / Track (fr/r) 2650 mm (104.3 in) / 1660 mm (65.4 in) / 1650 mm (65.0 in)

Performance figures
Power 660 bhp / 492.4 kW @ 7800 rpm
BHP/Liter 110.0
Torque 657 Nm / 484.6 ft lbs @ 5500 rpm
Power to weight ratio 0.48 bhp/kg
Top Speed 217.5 mph / 350.0 km/h
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.30 s