FERRARI F1-2000 1/4 scale model, (need help with wings setup)

Hi Guys


since you all guys are racing fans, I decided to ask for some help.
Right now I´m scratch building one F1-2000 ferrari in 1:4 scale

pictures here:
http://www.exclusivescale.com/project_f1-2000-1.htm


I want to build the Monza, and Japan car, but I´ve noticed that the wings setup is very different for these tracks, I´m asking for your help because I need some pictures, technical drawings, diagrams or whatever you can post or email me, to complete my model, I have the f12000 from hotwheels and tamiya, but it doesn´t have the marlboro logos, don´t even know from which circuit is it, and I want to make one historical model, I think monza or japan would be the best ones of the 2000 season. What do you think?
Please help me to complete my models, I´ll keep yo updated with the advances if you like to.
Thanks

:eek2::eek2::eek2: Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

these are from monza 2000

http://spazioinwind.libero.it/borto82/Monza218.jpg

http://spazioinwind.libero.it/borto82/Monza201.jpg

http://spazioinwind.libero.it/borto82/Monza260.jpg

http://spazioinwind.libero.it/borto82/Monza183.jpg

You need to buy Giorgio Piola's 2000 F1 Technical Analysis. Lots of pics of all the developments on all the F1 cars of the year but concentrating very heavily on Ferrari. F1 Modelling Magazine have done a couple of full walkaround features on the F1-2000, with lots and lots of detail shots. HLJ or Rainbow 10 may still have copies. There should be plenty of websites with pics of specific races. www.shell-ferrari.com used to be a good one, but since I'm not a Ferrari fan I haven't been looking for that kind of thing.

Above all good luck with your project, it looks awesome so far. I think Hockenheim would be a good race to do :evillol:

The best reference I can think of are Tameo's 1:43 versions. I've built both in the past and the rear wings were spot on. It's probably a bit over the top but if you can't find the photos you need these kits are worth checking out.

I have just 8 photos from the Japanese GP 2000, but some of them are quite big and hopefully helpful. I have uploaded all of them here (http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4286091219)

Please keep us updated on this amazing project!

Hi,

did you try this site: http://www.f1-photo.com/ ? then go to search.

or go to http://motorsport.com/photos/ then click on the year you want and look up the Italian/Japanese GP. perhaps you'll find something there.

Tim

How about the new book Ferrari Formula 1 by Peter Wright. This book is a full technical walk around of the F1-2000 and I would think it's absolutely neccesary for a project like this. Check it out at....

http://www.bullpublishing.com/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=12b.html&cart_id=

Hi, thanks to everybody. I ordered the Giorgio Piola's 2000 F1 Technical Analysis a MONTH AGO from amazon and haven´t received it yet, so I´m desperate to continue with my model. all your pictures are helping a lot. the model is almost done. I´m making some changes, (suspension arms will be in aluminum instead of styrene, and some pieces will be casted in white metal to make it more real.
but still have to figure out the wings. if you get more pictures email or post them, anything help =)

and thanks for your support, i´ll keep posted the advances.
thanks

Just had a browse through my copy of Piola's 2000 Tech Analysis and the biggest change for Suzuka was a straight front wing, doing away with the arrowhead. Monza of course had very small, low drag and downforce wings.

Well guys,
after 5 years of inactivity in my model, I finally decided to finish the proyect, I got the books you suggested, I made a few changes to the model, and a friend of mine helped me a lot to finish it, in fact this model is a model I gave to him, due to his great help in making it possible, Mine has some changes, will have the #3 as the original F1-2000, will be fully sponsored by marlboro, and some of the pieces will be in real carbon fiber, I´m about 1 month from finishing mine, but I´m uploading the pictures of the first model from this proyect, hope you like it.

This first model is possible thanks to all the people that helped me out in the process, I will upload the pictures of the new model in a few weeks, and I really hope the next update won´t take so many years like this one.

Best regards

Ever Lopez "JELP"



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That thing is huge!!!! Unbelievable work you've done there! It would be great if you could share some progress pics :licka:

Damn! That looks awsome! Great work!



That thing is huge!!!!

You should try having a 1:1 248F1 and 1:1 F2004 Nose cone in your room. Takes up like a thrid of my room already. :screwy:

wow thats really cool!

How about the new book Ferrari Formula 1 by Peter Wright. This book is a full technical walk around of the F1-2000 and I would think it's absolutely neccesary for a project like this. Check it out at....

http://www.bullpublishing.com/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=12b.html&cart_id=

i'll second that. it is essential.

http://www.amazon.com/Ferrari-Formula-Under-Championship-Winning-F1-2000/dp/0768013410/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3740171-0956027?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177554279&sr=1-1

That is absolutely amazing. Did I read right... scratch built?? Oh how I would love to see some progress pics!

That is absolutely amazing. Did I read right... scratch built?? Oh how I would love to see some progress pics!


Yeah, that´s right! scratch built.

I need to search for older pictures, here are some pictures of the progress, but not the first pictures of all,

the model was built from MDF, I made the stereotomy of the model and cutted all the slices to form the body,

then I covered it with BONDO and sanded until the shape was really close to the actual shape of the car,

then I started to measure all the model, to make it simetric on both sides, and this is the hardest part of all, It took like a year of measuring and sanding to get it all shaped simetrically.

then I started to sand it with thinner sandpapers.

After the sanding with a sandpaper 1000 I spray painted it with grey primer to search for more spots and failures in the finish.


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Damn that is determination!!! Simply amazing to undertake! Watch out though Scuderia might come looking for you to join their team! LOL

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we made all the sections of the mold, to make the nosecone.

subarashi! :D

OMG !!! :B Btw Try Aluminum Frame & Fiber... (For F1 Wings)

http://blackeye.idv.tw/misc/McLaren/McLaren-16.JPG http://blackeye.idv.tw/misc/McLaren/McLaren-13.JPG

ps: believe or not , this is the Real F1-2000 !!

This is so awesome. I am a F1 fan since I was a little kid and I can't get enough of this thread. Maybe you should post this project over at f1m.com, these guys will go crazy about it :grinno:

This is so awesome. I am a F1 fan since I was a little kid and I can't get enough of this thread. Maybe you should post this project over at f1m.com, these guys will go crazy about it :grinno:

I´m making my second model, a lot more detailed model, I´m planning on taking pictures or making like a diary on the progress, will upload it there.
thanks

Jelp,

You can't just leave us in suspense like that! :eek:

What are you building, what scale, how have you got your reference, what are you making it out of - all these questions need to be answered right now!:grinyes:

Congratulations on such a stupendous build - I have no idea how I missed this thread originally. Did you think about going into production with it? I can't imagine putting that much effort into a one-off model without taking molds off it at least.

I'm embarking on my first 1/8th scratchbuild which I really want to put into production (I've already found this has its own problems) At the moment I'm still drawing up all the neccessary parts, which is taking forever. Do you mind if I contact you of the board and bug you with loads of questions please?

TIA,

John

Jelp,

You can't just leave us in suspense like that! :eek:

What are you building, what scale, how have you got your reference, what are you making it out of - all these questions need to be answered right now!:grinyes:

Congratulations on such a stupendous build - I have no idea how I missed this thread originally. Did you think about going into production with it? I can't imagine putting that much effort into a one-off model without taking molds off it at least.

I'm embarking on my first 1/8th scratchbuild which I really want to put into production (I've already found this has its own problems) At the moment I'm still drawing up all the neccessary parts, which is taking forever. Do you mind if I contact you of the board and bug you with loads of questions please?

TIA,

John

Hi John

I´m working in various proyects at the present time, and of course I´m going to make molds to sell it, but I just want to make 3 or 5 models, and that´s it, no more, just a little edition of this model.

what model are you building? I like 1/8scale models, they are more "handy" because my large models are only for lobbies or great homes. I have a few friends who make 1/4 scratch models also, I do sell them to collectors around the world.
Feel free to email me if you want to chat a little more.
send me a PM and I will reply with my mail, skype and msn.
Best regards

Ever Lopez