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Pimpdady753
07-26-2004, 12:17 AM
What do you people think of this sub http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48613&item=5711788009&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
it ses 4000watts max and 2000watts rms. i was just woundering what you think about this sub. i have one right now it sounds pritty good but i think i need a nother one. i also have a ported box, i ordered a bandpass box hopefully it will hit a lot harder. Also what do you think about this amp http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18796&item=5711508600&rd=1
is this amp any good.

Navy I.C.
07-26-2004, 02:08 AM
uhh, yeah sure. why not? good combo, go for it...

Haibane
07-26-2004, 07:59 AM
NO NO, a thousand times no.

You can get a ton better for that cost. What are you looking for? What is your budget? How loud do you want it? how much quality do you want?

Haibane
07-26-2004, 08:17 AM
Trade in your old sub, for that price I can get you one sub that will blow away both those suckers in clarity and probably in volume too. I can get you an amp for 250, and as for spending extra money on a box, look at a SS, or any decware creations. Your average bandpass will sound really crappy

Haibane
07-26-2004, 08:30 AM
http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~acoustic/products/subwoofer_drivers/blueprint/ get 1 1203... Compare it to your old sub... and if you need another, sell the old sub and get another 1203. As for amps... Boss is a huge no no.
Maybe get 2 of http://www.woofersetc.com/product.asp?0=664&1=665&3=2747 one per each sub. Depending on what you want to spend I can adjust the costs... Also. A box, you will probably want to build your own if you have the tools, We can get you blueprints.

Pimpdady753
07-26-2004, 01:17 PM
Ok but my sub handls alot more power then that sub right, same with the amp it puts out more power, This is the amp im using right now, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4950&item=5710832091&rd=1
they sent me two of them for the price of one so now i have one just laying in my room. See i have a mustange hatchback that is why i need a bandpass box This is the box i orderd, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5709856045&category=14945&sspagename=rvi:1:2
See i want to be able to shake the cars next to me, or run in a small comp or something like that or know i could run in a small comp. i have a 3 fraud power cap and my lights still dim a little i think i might get a nother one or a bigger altinator, could you point me in the right directions for a biger altinator. Thanks alot

Pimpdady753
07-26-2004, 01:19 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5709856045&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

Navy I.C.
07-27-2004, 08:52 PM
I remember you. You're the one who got the "6000" watt amp that only uses (2) 20 amp fuses. If these guys figured out how to produce 6000 watts from a 14 volt system and < 40 amps of current, maybe they can solve the world's energy crisis next...huh?

Haibane
07-27-2004, 11:10 PM
Pimp daddy Your sub does not handle more power, your amp does not put out more... Those are not properly rated. I can guartee you on the audiobahns, cause I know that that sub will handle more and outperform that audiobahn due to personal experience and tests. Also, the amp, according to competition standards for amplifiers, you need at least 90 ampheres to pull 800 watts rms. that claims 6000 with 40 amps, it iso nly about 400 watts period. You can't argue electronics when there is only one way to really do things.

Haibane
07-27-2004, 11:18 PM
caps are worthless... As for shaking cars, if you had a real amp puttin only a real amount of 800 watts, you could shake cars in a ported box. BANDPASS PREFAB SOUNDS LIKE BUTT. I have cause a car in front of me 2 cars to shake the entire car playing rap at a little over half the volume with properly set gains and a good sub and only about 600-800 watts going to a 15. The reason I know it shook is because my friend was sitting in the car. I have set off car alarms with 800 watts, you are not getting 6000watts. Get a worthwhile system the first time around so that when someone pulls up next to you with 1000 watts and a single good 15, you dont get embarassed.

Haibane
07-27-2004, 11:23 PM
See i want to be able to shake the cars next to me, or run in a small comp or something like that or know i could run in a small comp. i have a 3 fraud power cap and my lights still dim a little i think i might get a nother one or a bigger altinator, could you point me in the right directions for a biger altinator. Thanks alot
YOU don't need a bigger alternator, run larger wires from alternator to battery, chasis and ground better. Get a deep cycle battery, and for everyone's sake learn what you are doing, dont go maddly spending money on stuff that wont help at all. There are people out there who are hitting in the 150s and 160s with single/dual subs and you are probably barely hitting 110 120 with what you are running. I dont want you to go out and embarass yourself, cause I know you will come back like all the others and say, but these guys helped me with my system... they must be morons. You haven't listened to a word we have said.

Ok that is the end of my venting for tonight

P.S. this post is for you http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=263782

94tegRS
07-27-2004, 11:40 PM
haha, just looked at that 6k watt amp drawing 40 amps of current. about the alternator thing though, I had a 95 mustang, and I dont know what year he has but when I was installing my system in there I researched and found I had like a 195 amp alternator because the 93 and earlier years were plagued wioth weak alternators so they just stepped it way up to avoid any possible problems. at least thats what I found.

Pimpdady753
07-28-2004, 01:09 AM
so you guys are saying that my sub sucks and that it dont even handle that much power, so if i try and put that much power in to it it will blow.

94tegRS
07-28-2004, 04:29 AM
if you have it sealed it handles ALOT more than it does when ported, and the size of the box matters alsoI think the smaller the box to an extent it can handle more cuz it has more resistance to limit its excursion before it clips, and a larger box lets the cone move further with less effort.(the first parts fact, the second is my take, sao dont trust the 2nd part too much)

and I will have to say if you do put a real amp that puts a proven 2k watts RMS into it, it probably will blow.

how do youlike that sub though?

Haibane
07-28-2004, 08:19 AM
Its not that your sub sucks, it is you are wasting way too much money on something not worth it. Also, for the bump you want you will definately need a different amp. Now for the sub, you could hit pretty loud with that sub, but it is not great in clarity and there are subs that hit much louder for the cost, lets say the brahma 15 for example or the

http://www.audiohole.com/detail.asp?id=1001
or
http://www.audiohole.com/detail.asp?id=1010

Pimpdady753
07-28-2004, 11:46 AM
its ok i need to get a new amp and a nother sub, i only have one right now, and i ordered a bandpass box it comes friday. when i get that it should be a lot better.

Pimpdady753
07-28-2004, 01:31 PM
What about this amp from audiobahn http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64571&item=5710803860&rd=1
or this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48597&item=5712027172&rd=1
or what about this amp http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64571&item=5711372223&rd=1

Haibane
07-28-2004, 02:28 PM
WTF do you want to spend a s***load of money on something when I can get you the same amount of power cheaper... with way better quality?

Pimpdady753
07-28-2004, 03:42 PM
ok what can you get me i at least want to run 1500 watts rms 2000 would be good if you can find an amp that does that and is under 450 then let me see it.

Haibane
07-28-2004, 10:13 PM
http://www.woofersetc.com/product.asp?0=295&1=296&3=2044


http://www.woofersetc.com/product.asp?0=477&1=613&3=1937

Pimpdady753
07-29-2004, 12:06 AM
this amp lookes cooler tho, is this amp any good. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64571&item=5711372223&rd=1

Haibane
07-29-2004, 12:10 AM
Do whatever the hell you want...

Pimpdady753
07-29-2004, 12:15 AM
so is this amp any good or not

Haibane
07-29-2004, 12:19 AM
If you don't want my opinion don't ask for it. It wont agree with your opinion. I AM TIRED OF DEALING WITH YOU. The amp stinks... plain and simple. It is a huge drain on your electical system, it isnt even a class D amp. LOOKS mean nothing in car audio

Pimpdady753
07-29-2004, 12:23 AM
ok thanxs alot

94tegRS
07-29-2004, 05:43 AM
Im all up for your help, I saw that tsunami amp, sounds like loads of power for a good priec, what you think of the hifonics brutus, I heard the zeus usd to be a pretty good amp, and this one is 1500 watts rms for 310 I think. do they push almost what they say?

and what kind of subs do you like to have 2 of them in a 4 ft^3 slot ported enclosure.

I want it to be nice and loud, but sound decent at the same time. these are the last 2 setups Ive had, the firts was alot louder but the 2nd sounds clean and is still about as loud as I need, but Id like to be able to be much louder when I want to.

1st. 1 audiobahn AW1200X 12" high excursion in a ported enclosure, 2 3" ports and it had an airspace of 3.4 ft^3 after considering any bracing and sub/port displacement, and was tuned to 37 hz./ this was runnign off of a audiobahn AW1300HCX amp (rated at 600x1@2 ohms). and 2nd

audiobahn Alum12Q 2" aluminum sub in a 2.5 ft^3 sealed box off of a JBL BP1200.1.

I am thikning of sending the amp in to JBL to get repaired cuz it is a beats and I dont wanna get rid of it, I got in a wreck and once I hooked up power to it after the wreck, thick black smoke and hissing but no bass. I opened her up and all the black boxes around the perimeter of the board are melted.


I was thinkign of maybe 1 IDmax ported, or a couple punch HX2's, I have heard of the adire audio's before, thats who makes the brahma or whatever right? how much those go for?

Haibane
07-29-2004, 08:33 AM
Ok, Do you have tools to make a box. Ported boxes are like bandpass, you cant just slap any old sub in there.

Secondly brahma, www.adireaudio.com (http://www.adireaudio.com) Will run you about 400, www.reaudio.com (http://www.reaudio.com) makes a SX and a XXX that are worth checking out, but both are about 200+. One or two AE15s would be good to check out from www.edesignaudio.com (http://www.edesignaudio.com). Idmaxs are great too. I would aviod the RF stuff if you want some clarity

94tegRS
07-29-2004, 05:12 PM
yeah, I got tools, I have always built my boxes, never bought one, its cheaper plus you have the box you want for the sub you got, not what some compsany guesses will work ok with many different subs.

I made my ported box on winisd. and my sealed box i did on winisd but i didnt know what the qtc is or anything so it didnt help me much.

and ab out the ported box thing, I want a sub that is good in a ported box because I had 2 of those hgih excursiopns running off that audiobahn amp in a sealed box(not a large one though) and the one sub ported to that amp was WAY louder. plus it didnt really sound any crappier to my ear than when they were sealed.

Haibane
07-29-2004, 06:28 PM
Audiobahn=crap

I would try one of the edesign combos honestly. www.edesignaudio.com/combo (http://www.edesignaudio.com/combo)

This sounds like you to me

Combo #2A (1) Two of any Ov.2 (http://www.edesignaudio.com/ov2) driver + Nine.1 Amplifier (http://www.edesignaudio.com/edamps.htm) (1200x1 @ 1ohm) for $580.00
(2) 13Ov.2 Dual 4+ (1)eD NINe.1 Amplifier $580.00 Pre-Order* / Regular Cost $850.00 - http://www.edesignaudio.com/buynow.jpg (http://www.edesignaudio.com/miva/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=-2-13Ov2_NINe1&Category_Code=COM)
We recommend .8cF Sealed before displacement per driver OR 1.5cF tuned to 30Hz for optimal results.
(2) 16Ov.2 Dual 2 + (1)eD NINe.1 Amplifier $580.00 Pre-Order* / Regular Cost $950.00 - http://www.edesignaudio.com/buynow.jpg (http://www.edesignaudio.com/miva/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=-2-16Ov2_NINe1&Category_Code=COM)
We recommend 1.5-1.8cF Sealed before displacement OR 2.5-2.8cF tuned to 30Hz for optimal results.

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