New Bmw 8 Series?!?

alright. so my friend is the richest kid in my city (so of course he has rich neighbors). he says that he saw in his neighbor's driveway, a BMW 845. now at the time i had no idea of what a BMW 845 was. so i googled it. pics came up of the old 8 series. he told me right then, 'it doesnt look like any of those. the one i saw was newer.' the last 8 series made was, from what i can tell, a 7 series based coupe. so if he wasnt lying, what he saw was a current 7 series-sized coupe. if this is for real, and the 8 series is back, I NEED TO KNOW!!!!

Um... no new 8 series out there, maybe he saw the new 645Ci and confused the 6 for an 8 on the badge.

yeah, it must have been a 645. oh well, just wanted to know...

i live in niagara falls ontario, and due to the opening of the new fallsview casino and resort the amount of exoctic and preformance/luxury cars has increased. however the other evening on the way home from work i saw a blue 845 ci, it looked very new, nothing liek the older models i am sure that it was an 845ci because i pulled up beside it at a red light before turned onto the highway headed for toronto. it was about the size of a seven series, only a 2 door coupe. does anybody know about this car, perhaps its a new 2005?

No, it would still have been the 645Ci. If you look closely, you will see that the 6 curles over at the end, and makes it look like an 8. A friend of mine even thought it said B45Ci.

I doubt if BMW would make a new 8 series, as it would be treading on the toes of the 6, especially if it had the same engine on the go.

I doubt if BMW would make a new 8 series, as it would be treading on the toes of the 6, especially if it had the same engine on the go.
It would be nice if they resurrected the 8-series (my all time favorite car is the 1995 850Csi). The 8-series was known to have a wide base, so the car would be wider than the 6, and would be a lil-bit longer too.

but a 845 today is 100% impossible. The reasons:

years of 8-series production: 1989-1999
Trim levels of the 8-series: 840Ci, 850i, 850Ci, and 850CSi.
Plans of reviving the 8-series by BMW: AB-SO-LUTE-LY none

Also, i do remember seeing a 8-series convertible in my next door neighbors drive way. no joke. Was there ever such thing, I do recall seeing more than one.

Also, the 8-series was a 7-series based car, in some ways. It was made to compete against Mercedes's 500SEL and 600SEL coupe, and mercedes S500 Coupe and S600 Coupe or in todays names, the CL-class. THis is actually a hunch, correct me if i am wrong.

BTW this belongs in the 8-Series forums. Duh.

While there have been no direct references to a new 8-series, I recently read a interview with a BMW executive that hinted at the production a some sort of new, ultra-high performance, SLR, CGT, Enzo competitor from the M division within the decade.


but a 845 today is 100% impossible. The reasons:

years of 8-series production: 1989-1999
Trim levels of the 8-series: 840Ci, 850i, 850Ci, and 850CSi.
Plans of reviving the 8-series by BMW: AB-SO-LUTE-LY none

I don't really agree with your reasoning for why there won't be an new 8-Series. All of those could have been said about the 6-Series before the new one was released.

I don't really agree with your reasoning for why there won't be an new 8-Series. All of those could have been said about the 6-Series before the new one was released.

I meant the existence of an 845 today is impossible. And still I have not heard of one plan to revive the 8-series. My family is friend's with Jim McDowell, VP of sales & marketing @ BMW North America, plus I live only 5 minutes from both Mercedes and BMW of North America. I asked Jim, and he said there arent any current plans to revive the 8-series, but I did not hear anything about a Enzo/SLR competitor, 'cuz i did not bother to ask. so it may be a possibility.

Why on earth would the same manufacturer build two, 4.5 liter, four seater, gran touring coupes? The 6 is based on a slightly lengthend 5 series platform, and is already a very big car. The 8 series would have to be huge, like as big or bigger then a CL. And to distance it from the 6, they would need to put the 6.0 V12 in it.

As the 6 and 8 have never run along side eachother before, I doubt they will again. It would be interesting to see what Bangal produced for an 860Ci, but I'd rather them put the V12 in the 6 series anyway. Its got a ring to it, "the 660Ci". Sounds mean!

I saw this car on the freeway this morning. I too was unaware there was an 800 series that is obviously a brand new model.... a truly beautiful car. I couldn't take my eyes off of it, and I'm a Mercedes lover! I haven't been able to find much information about it, I wonder if it's an import.

alright. so my friend is the richest kid in my city. he says that he saw in his neighbor's driveway, a BMW 845. now at the time i had no idea of what a BMW 845 was. so i googled it. pics came up of the old 8 series. he told me right then, 'it doesnt look like any of those. the one i saw was newer.' the last 8 series made was, from what i can tell, a 7 series based coupe. so if he wasnt lying, what he saw was a current 7 series-sized coupe. if this is for real, and the series is back, I NEED TO KNOW!!!!

:loser:
yeah, it must have been a 645. oh well, just wanted to know...

I thought that I would respond again especially after reading everyone else's quotes about the 800 BMW being impossible. I must dispute these notions. If this series does not exist, why then did I see it just this morning? I was stuck behind this car in bumper to bumper traffic on the freeway and was literally just a few feet away from it for just short of an hour (I could tell you every detail, as I said earlier I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Luckily the driver was enthralled with his phone conversation and didn't notice my stares). I saw the model number very clearly and even wrote it down because I wanted to find out more information about the vehicle, it said "845 CI." Don't give up porsheguy9999, I'm sure your rich kid friend was in fact correct about the 800 series. As I stated earlier this may be an import and may not be avail. in the states as of yet. I remember seeing the Mercedes SLK230 for the first time in Verona, Italy and to my dismay the car was not available in the US until two years later! Nonetheless, I am positive that the BMW845 CI exists and that this model was definately at least an '04/'05 make. A truly beautiful vehicle.[/SIZE]yeah, it must have been a 645. oh well, just wanted to know...

If you saw this car..........

http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/F6E48D31-1866-4A8E-9B16-F56B0FBED8C4/0/0467_12.jpg
http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/8EBD0582-64DD-4B73-9947-7C9E9B017DEF/0/0467_06.jpg

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Wrong, It is not the new 8-Series. It's the new E63 645Ci. Even in Europe, a new 845Ci is 100% impossible unless it was a fullout custom body.

Why on earth would the same manufacturer build two, 4.5 liter, four seater, gran touring coupes? The 6 is based on a slightly lengthend 5 series platform, and is already a very big car. The 8 series would have to be huge, like as big or bigger then a CL. And to distance it from the 6, they would need to put the 6.0 V12 in it.

As the 6 and 8 have never run along side eachother before, I doubt they will again. It would be interesting to see what Bangal produced for an 860Ci, but I'd rather them put the V12 in the 6 series anyway. Its got a ring to it, "the 660Ci". Sounds mean!

It's a 4.4 liter. Just thought I'd correct ya :).

BTW, they dont have plans for a 660Ci, but they do have plans of reviving the M6 as an SL65/SL55 AMG competitor, and possible a SLR competitor. It will have the same V10 features as the new M5.

Oh and mcginnis, you're not making any sense to what you mean, with all those quotes and stuff.

Thanks. I'm not all that up on BM's.

I do like the 6 series, but I don't think, even in M6 guise, it will match my car. Its more of a CL competitor than an SL.

As for the SLR... no chance.

I would actually consider a V12 six series. I have an S600 at the moment, but don't really need the four doors, just the four seats, and I dont really like the CL. Its out of preportion. Thats where an 8 series would be useful. But it needs a lot of diferentiation bettween it and the 6.

BTW, they dont have plans for a 660Ci, but they do have plans of reviving the M6 as an SL65/SL55 AMG competitor, and possible a SLR competitor. It will have the same V10 features as the new M5.


Yea, the M6 will not be a SL class competitor. The SL cars from AMG all cost over $120,000, while the M6 should cost around $90,000-$100,000 (maybe a little more, but still less then the SL). The 6-Series is a 2-door, 4-seater; while the SL is a 2 seater. They are completely different cars. As much as I love BMW, the new V10, and the new 7-Speed SMG transmission, this is not the car to compete with the SL. The M6 will definitly competition for the CL class (2-door, 4-seater, hard top). An M6 with 500bhp would definitly be a faster car then the $95,000 CL500 w/ 302bhp, and should be more direct competition for the CL55 AMG w/ 493bhp and the CL600 with about the same. Most magazines I've read have criticized the 6-Series for being too expensive to compete with the very similar CLK500, and not good enough to compete with the CLK55 AMG, but if BMW prices the M6 correctly, it should be more then enough competition for the CL Class.

As for the SLR, no way in a million years. The SLR is a full blown supercar. 626bhp is more then any BMW engine has ever produced save the McLaren Engine. The SLR is also significantly more expensive. These cars are not in the same league.

Finally, the 5,6, and 7 series with the 4.4L engines aren't called 544i, 644i, and 744i because Volvo once made a car called the 544...

The M6 will definitly competition for the CL class (2-door, 4-seater, hard top). An M6 with 500bhp would definitly be a faster car then the $95,000 CL500 w/ 302bhp, and should be more direct competition for the CL55 AMG w/ 493bhp and the CL600 with about the same. Most magazines I've read have criticized the 6-Series for being too expensive to compete with the very similar CLK500, and not good enough to compete with the CLK55 AMG, but if BMW prices the M6 correctly, it should be more then enough competition for the CL Class.

Yea.....I think it may be able to compete also with the CL65. Both are the sports tuned versions of Mercedes and BMW (M-Power and AMG). But I think in some ways the CLK is still competitive with the 3-series, althought the 3-series is a little bit cheaper i think. BUt with BMW's plans of the new 4-series, that may possible be a rival for the CLK.

Also, Mercedes plans to make a convertible version of the CL available in the 2006 model, and would definitely be a competitor with the 645Ci convertible. it should be interesting.

i do not know why they would release an 8. if you remember, when the 8 was released it was a replacement of the 6 series in the 2 door sports segment. that is why they were never ran concurrently, and thus why they wont be ran concurrently. . .

Hey guys,

Just was browsing on the web to look for the 845ci... I was driving yesterday (am based in Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur), and I saw a dark blue BMW 845 ci.. was driving behind it. Looked for the model number, as I hadn't seen it before anywhere.. and yup... 845CI... no joke...
I am sure all u guys have much more knowledge than I have.. but the pic shown before of the 645ci is not the same.. the 845 ci has a different shape at the back, looks somehow like the new 5 series combined with the audi tt...

Let's see whether I will see the car again when I go to Europe next week.. I'll keep ya posted!

yes, there really is a new BMW 8

A very rich lady I know drove up in a brand new 845 CL

It was a hard top convertible not yet released in the US

I tried googleing it, but nothing came up execpt this forum

Just keep your hopes up!

People, please understand. You are seeing a 645Ci. I've seen the badges in the 6's and from a certain distance they appear to say 845. It's just the way the badges are shaped. There is no such thing as an 845, and there are no immediate plans of even producing an 8. my sister's friend's dad is Jim McDowell, VP of Sales and Marketing in BMW of NA, and I asked him and he says there is no such thing and there are no immediate plans of a new 8 because right now there is no such market for one. and before anyone else claims to have seen one, TAKE A PICTURE, THIS WAY WE WILL ACTUALLY BELIEVE ALL OF YOU IF YOU GIVE US SOME HARD EVIDENCE. DON't BE CHEAP AND DO A FREAKIN PHOTOSHOP. And if you think you see one, clarify that you're not seeing 645 and not 845. Secondly, if they had a new 8 concept on the streets, it would be all covered up and there would be no identifiable badges on the car. Again, there's no such thing!

And lemme clarify, this is what you are seeing. Yes, the badge at this distance and at that resolution looks like 845 when it is 645.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/141BMW6_4-med.jpg

yesterday, i saw the "845CI" and i took a picture. I'm sure it was an "eight", and not a "six". I think it a joke, cause the car looks exactly like the 645ci..... maybe the owner changed the number by himself to confuse us? =)

http://www.lukaspitsch.ch/BMW1.jpg

It is a 645. Take a closer picture next time. PLease stop trying to prove the existence of a new 8-Series because there is no new 8-series. Why can't you just face it? The badge BMW manufactures has a small gap in the six which distinguishes it as being a six rather than an eight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/BMW1.jpg

Secondly, look at my second to last post.

Here is another picture of the new 6 series.

http://members.roadfly.org/bm75204/645TrunkUp.jpg

I thought that I would respond again especially after reading everyone else's quotes about the 800 BMW being impossible. I must dispute these notions. If this series does not exist, why then did I see it just this morning? I was stuck behind this car in bumper to bumper traffic on the freeway and was literally just a few feet away from it for just short of an hour (I could tell you every detail, as I said earlier I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Luckily the driver was enthralled with his phone conversation and didn't notice my stares). I saw the model number very clearly and even wrote it down because I wanted to find out more information about the vehicle, it said "845 CI." Don't give up porsheguy9999, I'm sure your rich kid friend was in fact correct about the 800 series. As I stated earlier this may be an import and may not be avail. in the states as of yet. I remember seeing the Mercedes SLK230 for the first time in Verona, Italy and to my dismay the car was not available in the US until two years later! Nonetheless, I am positive that the BMW845 CI exists and that this model was definately at least an '04/'05 make. A truly beautiful vehicle.[/SIZE]

Yes, there is an 845 - I've seen 2 (a convertible and a coupe). Brand new - V12.

not this again........

The coupe had the V12 badging, I could be wrong about the convertible after looking at some of the pictures posted here (maybe a 645) - I'll take a closer look.

You have to be kidding me. Go to www.bmwusa.com and look for the 8-series. I promise you that there isn't one.

Yeah, I know it's not listed on their web-site. What new models offer the V12?

The 760Li and 760i, that's it.

http://i2.tinypic.com/vgmmqa.jpg

Could be....

I think a few very important points have been completely left out. Firstly, BMW is one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world, and it would be completely impossible for them to keep a new series, or a series they're planning to revive secret even long before it's release. And you're talking about a car that's supposedly been on the market for years now, and a revival of one of the top sports cars of it's time, and you can't find any proof of it's existance..
Being German and a BMW enthusiast I got in touch with a guy at the national BMW archives in Munich sometime last year asking him about the 8 series, because it's my favourite (followed be the old 6 series). He sent me an 8 series catalogue (internationally, free of charge) and explained to me that the 8 series had been discontinued because it had served it's purpose. The cars were magnificent, highly refined and it took a lot of resources for it to become like that. In fact, one well cared for will still look surprisingly new because the design was well ahead of it's time. But the point is, they'd created a fairly exclusive car, especially the 850csi, and it would have been hard to make improvements to it for some time, so it's one of those special cars you don't just churn out on a production line and turn into something common and therefore less significant. He also said there were no plans to produce it again. If BMW begin production of the 8 series again, you'll hear about it long before they release it, and personally, I reckon they'll wait until the original 8 series is many decades old and beginning to be forgotten, when they can develop it without having to worry about the comparisons people are going to make or whether it will have a big enough impact because the last release of such a special model was too recent.

With regards to the photo, it's taken from a weird angle and it could be an m6 or maybe a custom BMW.
But there is NO WAY IN HELL that the 8 series could be re-released without very comprehensive info on it being easily available, especially on the net. And there is no info on it anywhere.

I know this is all kinda hard to believe, but here's some fuel for the fire.

There is an internal application where we can search/LOCATE cars that are in the distribution system.

There is a new model number appearing on that application today.

It says "8"

right next to the Z8.

Selecting that for a search show no info whatsoever.

there was some talk about a crossover type vehicle a few months back. but I can't find anything about a new 8 anywhere.

Where is this suppsoed to be located? I want to see it!

It's on the propriatry BMW computer system, "Dealerspeed".

Sweet, I need a password and username to log in. So if theres a way to log in without doing anything illegal, then let me know. Otherwise, thats fine, I may get a username when I officially start working at the BMW dealership that I got a job at.

I HAVE ALSO SEEN THE BADGED COUPES... 845ci about half a dozen times in the southwestern area around Hiway 6 area several times...the badge indeed does say 845ci. there is a black one, and a dark blue one.
I was within 6 feet of the right rear, I am a carhauler and know what I see, it is my job !!
Although I have not hauled one on the truck I was curious enough to do a search for more information and found this argument on the issue here...exactly what is going on is not a vision of imagination about what the badge says "it says "845ci) no doubt about that !!

are you F'ing kidding me...how many times do we have to go over this....I'm an 8er fanatic, there's no such f'ing thing as a new 8-series....

This seems to be an argument like those about Loch Ness. Some believe, some dont. And we dont have proof either way. And I dont have anything to support the existance of it despite working at a BMW dealership. Which would seem like the primo place to get info. So I really couldnt say. All I could do is ask a general question for all who claim to have seen one:

When you think you have seen a supposed "845ci", please draw or sketch what you saw and describe it in words or how it was different from a 6 series. Then we can compare the sketch to a pic of the 6 series.

For the record, this is what the 650Ci coupe looks like (the 645Ci looks the same)

http://i9.tinypic.com/2hcdweo.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/2cffa7m.jpg

I must be seeing things...from 6` away I could have sworn it was an "8" and it is my business to know...I am going to call the railhead where the cars are sitting before they are shipped on the trucks and ask the dispatcher...this is kinda like trying to "catch a car with a butterfly net" or harness the power of lightning. I know where a silver one is and I am going to touch it ASAP.
It most likely is a "6" and looks like an "8"...sorry I goofed it up.
KarHauLar

No problem. The 6 does look like an 8 so its easy to mistake.

Just as an update, I was talkting to some of the guys at work (BMW dealership) and they said that there was indeed somthing with an "8" in the name in the pipline. Now weather this is a new Z8 or 8 Series Im not sure, but w/e, somthing is in the works none the less.

Maybe he saw this... Dream perhaps? Enjoy...
http://www.lebspy.com/home/forums/pimp-my-ride/9011-bmw-8-series-2009-a.html

Hi all of you,

BMW will never release the 8-th series again as it was the most unsuccessfull model in BMW history. it was too expensive for its time and not very strong car, too many visits in the service and that's why BMW 6-th series was developed again.
BMW was, is and will be the gratest car on earth!

Hi all of you,

BMW will never release the 8-th series again as it was the most unsuccessfull model in BMW history. it was too expensive for its time and not very strong car, too many visits in the service and that's why BMW 6-th series was developed again.
BMW was, is and will be the gratest car on earth!

You're defenitely right!

I love tooo that post...........

I love this thread. You know why? This thread has been opened on 2004 and today it’s 2013. Such a long period but still the thread is on top.

I saw an 845i coupe today in San Francisco. It was standing at a light; I was right next to it on the sidewalk. I couldn't believe there was a new 8-series, so I looked at the badge 3 times to make sure, then followed it as it turned the corner to look again. It sounded tough, but it looked like a sleeper 5-series. I've seen the old V-12's. This was a new car. Did someone change the badge?

i also never seen or hear about BMW 845.. any body can post the image of it..

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