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DZNZ
07-20-2004, 09:26 AM
I have a 98 civic ex non-vortech, single overhead cam. Do they make headers for this? Does anyone have the same car and have put on headers?

Peace,

DZNZ

Kafziel
07-20-2004, 09:48 AM
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the EX models (at least 96 - 00) come with VTEC standard?
I have a 97 EX and yes they do make headers for that. I have a 4-2-1 header/downpipe and it's great. Install takes an hour or less if you have experience, probably up to 2 hours if you don't. This is assuming your catalytic converter is a separate piece. I don't know about the HX/DX models but I'm 90% sure your EX should have a cat like mine.

jameskersten
07-20-2004, 09:59 AM
I have a 98 civic ex non-vortech, single overhead cam. Do they make headers for this? Does anyone have the same car and have put on headers?

Peace,

DZNZ

i hope it doenst have vortech since its not a chevy, you mihgt have vtec though. the motor you have would be the d16y7 and yes they make a header for it, seen ractive for sure. i dont see many people with mods done to these motor though since you cant make much power NA with them. install time is pretty easy, just depends on tools available, i would hate to do it without airtools cuz the bolts on exhaust systems tend to be very difficult to remove. the d16y7 exhaust manifold (header) has the cat right in front of the motor so you gotta remove the o2 sensor and make sure the new header has a spot for it.

DZNZ
07-20-2004, 10:11 AM
Okay -- first off, sorry about the typo -- meant vtec. I have a Jimmy as well and my wires must of been crossed for a moment. It is too early in the morning!

Anyway, thanks James. Yeah, I got airtools -- and thanks for the info on the o2 sensor. I was wondering about that!

Also, no Kafziel-- not all are vtec!

peace,
DZNZ

Kafziel
07-20-2004, 10:19 AM
That's a new one on me. Well, in that case, my help will be limited. But I do have a D-series engine (I wouldn't do a B-series engine swap if you paid me) so I guess for some things I can still answer questions.

Good luck!

snowman2005
07-20-2004, 10:26 AM
96-00 ex comes with v-tec. i dont think its marked on the valve cover tough not sure but Kafziel was right

DZNZ
07-20-2004, 10:51 AM
Huh,
Well, when I went to auto zone to get rotors, there was a civic ex non-vtec option. In fact, when you punch the oil filter type into Walmart's computer, there is also a non-vtec selections. I am confused. Is there any way to verify this for good?

Thanks.

DZNZ
07-20-2004, 10:56 AM
Just called a honda dealership and they said that there is such a thing as a non-vtec, non DOHC honda civic ex. That's what I have. Man, I was starting to get confused. I wish I had gotten the vtec!

Thanks.

Kafziel
07-20-2004, 10:58 AM
I kinda think maybe Canadian ones didn't come with vtec standard. That might be the reason for the option on store computers.

Probably the easiest way to tell is to gun it and listen for the vtec to kick in (around 5500 I think). You will hear a sudden change in pitch and the car will feel... more alive, like it's suddenly taking deeper breaths (which it is).

I'm sure there's better ways to tell, but I've only ever driven mine and that's what it's like. I don't know much about what the non-vtec ones look like so I don't know what the differences are as far as how things look under the hood.

DZNZ
07-20-2004, 11:04 AM
That is interesting. Yeah, I know what you mean -- mine kicks in around there as well -- which lead me to question. I did notice that the engine did not advertise it -- and there is an absence of a dohc --which I thought all vtecs had????

Anyway, I put the question out there.

Thanks.

snowman2005
07-20-2004, 11:17 AM
'96-'00 Civic HX (USA) D16Y5 1.6 16V SOHC VTEC-E PGM-FI 1590 115hp@6200rpm 104tq@5400rpm
'96-'00 Civic CX/DX/LX (USA) D16Y7 1.6 16V SOHC PGM-FI 1590 106hp@6200rpm 103tq@4600rpm
'96-'00 Civic EX (USA) D16Y8 1.6 16V SOHC VTEC-II PGM-FI 1590 127hp@6600rpm 107tq@5500rpm

exman98
07-20-2004, 11:38 AM
i have a 98 ex also. i dont know why people wouldnt get the vtec. read the engine code on the block near the exhaust manifold should say d16y8
you should be able to put 4-2-1 header

DZNZ
07-20-2004, 11:43 AM
Thanks exman.

DZNZ
07-20-2004, 11:44 AM
BYW -- thanks everyone -- been a great help!

exman98
07-20-2004, 01:45 PM
my engine also doesnt say anthing on it except HONDA

it does have vtec though

d16y8- that is an engine type with vtec
im not saying its not possible
i still learn every day

Kafziel
07-20-2004, 01:54 PM
Same w/ me - D16Y8, and my valve cover just says "Honda". It's a vtec engine.

I guess by the 2nd generation of vtecs, Honda figured it wasn't a big enough deal to advertise it on the engine.

exman98
07-20-2004, 02:35 PM
thier not that fast any way so i dont think its a big deal

Kafziel
07-20-2004, 02:50 PM
They might not be the fastest engine, but I would never get rid of mine. That's the engine that car is SUPPOSED to have. That's the soul. If you replace the body, the wheels, the brakes, the lights, the seats, dash, radio, intake, exhaust, shifter, clutch, throttle, fuel pump, AND engine, what's left of it? It becomes some kind of frankenstein of aftermarket parts and other models. If I want a DOHC, I'll just buy a second civic.

Just one man's opinion...

exman98
07-20-2004, 09:37 PM
i see where your coming from
but i would like a faster car

i am lookin for a good engine donations
B18C1 only
thank you

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