Hey all. New guy in town and as you can see by the name I dream of the next Skyline to be released in the US, as I'm sure many of you do:)
Well now here is my question. I saw this on another site (hope it's ok to post it) http://home.netvigator.com/~europa/0_News/Latest/Current/News_frame.htm
Can anyone tell me if there is any truth to this story?
:confused:

I admit I like the XVL style, but it ain't the Skyline.

Welcome to the site R35USA!
Yep, I am a dreamer just like you :rolleyes:
I'm also the admin/webmaster here, so if you have any questions or problems dont hesitate to ask me ;)

Even though I like the XVL concept, I have to agree with you that Skyline is Skyline, Nissan should not **** with the Skyline :) I'd really hate it if the next Skyline looked like that. It's loosing its sports appeal and going into a more luxo direction, they got Gloria and Cedric to cover that. :o
I sure do hope that that isn't the next Skyline..... :cry:

I like the Leon Cupra R.

As for the Skyline. I don't think it's changing to that shape. That is just a sedan version of it. There's a pic right now of the concept R35 going around. If you haven't seen it, just let me know and I'll post it.

P.S. Welcome to AF.

These are what they will probably look like.

http://www.zing.com/picture/p2a2446069b1a00c519cb252f9e9e916a/fe7eff6d.jpg
http://www.zing.com/picture/p38a109ea3378c01ae1976bb905db0aac/fe7eff75.jpg

I'll take one in black please.:D

Ya I've seen that picture around for sometime now :smoker2: So the only problem is "HOW" close to real is it:confused: A buddy of mine has an NSX and has been tracking it for sometime now and the same holds true there. Everyone speculates on the V8 and we even heard about it having 2 electric motors up front for each wheel:eek: What the:shocked:

Anyhow I'm just hoping that the XVL is NOT the new Skyline:p

Then again I woudn't mind driving around in a Nissan Stagea passing all the kids in their suped up Civics:frog:

PLEASE get me that Skyline...the one in black would do just nicely :D :D

As you may or may not know, the Nissan XVL is merely an engineering workhorse, much like the altezza, willed into reality. However, many of you know that Nissan is in dire stress of being bought out by French manufacturer Renault (it is already so 30%). Nissan has always been one of the primary Japanese propogators alongside Mazda of sports cars; it is quite unfortunate that sports cars are becoming obsolete in favor of luxurious/spacious American and European products. God willing, Nissan and Mazda will burn like the phoenix, regardless of SUV counterparts, and luxury divisions, globallly. There will always be a place in heart for our 'so called' extinct free burning Mazdas, Nissans, and Toyoyas.

YA I am getting so tired of seeing SUV's. OK I have a Honda Accord Coupe, but prefer to drive my wife's new Honda Odyssey:dogpile: Fits my 100lb dog and everything else, strange yes, but it is a grocery getter after all:angel:

I agree with Morpheus in hoping that the Auto makers in Japan do go back to the day of the sports car. The current trend in the US may actually be turning to the better tho. Subaru is bringing it's WRC cars over, so maybe all is not lost:thinkerg:

Toyota is a hard call, they stopped shipping the Supra and now they are challenging Ford for SUV supremacy. Honda sort of the same the Odyssey is killing Dodges long time mini-van king. :biggrin2: ,but they do have the S2000 (fun car to drive) and they have more ricer's than anyone else. Add to that their Acura line with NSX, a true sports car from Japan. Toyota could do the same with it's Lexus line and bring over the Lexus GT4000 (not a real name, just dreaming:sleep: )
As for our favorite, Nissan can do it with the Infinity line. The GT-S (or XVL) can compete against the Lexus G series and the GT-R can compete (and then some) with the NSX, they can keep the Z at the Nissan level.

Our last hope may lay in the Japanese Auto makers. The American cars are aging and getting boring. What do we have left? Viper, Corvette, Mustang?! Anything else that can compete as a true sports car from the US? Help me out, cuz that's all the ones I can think of that are left.

Man I just looked out my office window and saw another Stupid big Ford F350 being used as a daily commuter?! I could tell you where I work, but then you would have to kill me.:greenchai , but trust me on this. You do NOT need a truck for where I work. So why drive something that wastes gas and takes up 2 stalls!? Even worse someone actually uses an RV! WTF!

OK I'm ranting sorry. Must go get some sugar free coke:apuke:

Long live the Skyline:flash:

I've seen other pictures of the skyline looking like that....
Look HERE (http://www.j-cars.net/newcar.htm)

Here too:rolleyes:
http://www.busybeetoys.com/scoop/scoop-edn31.htm
Well maybe it'll grow on me as long as the preformance factor is still there. You can really see the Renault influnce in the new design.

Till we get some better pictures I still stand by my first reaction. "Actually it looks like the Z Concept went doggy style on the Honda/Acura RS-X"

Sorry to burst your bubbles folks, the GTR will look nothing like that. It will be based off the XVL, and the pic you guys shown is a fake pic based off an R34 shot. It was discovered by a few folks at CF.com to be fake, and when I contacted Danny Ngan he confirmed it.

OK you lost me again D:) I would be glad if that is not what the final R35 looks like. For the record: Nice ya, but NOT a Skyline body.

Now can you tell me where you get the info about it being fake from? "CF.com"? and sorry don't know Danny Ngan, so if you could clarify that would be great.

It looks (looks) a lot smaller than the R34 so how it's based off the R34 I'm not sure?

If anyone has inside details, let us know;)

I have also seen confirmations throughout the web that those pictures were computer rendered images of the R34 (but that didnt stop me from enjoying them!). The bottom line is, according to the average rate that new models are released from Japanese automakers, it is still too soon to expect the R35; however that doesnt mean they are not working on it. Concepts are always being produced and at times, bits and pieces are leaked out into the public. So what you see out there may not be too far from the actual R35 when it is unveiled. Hopefully next time around Nissan will make much more technical improvements as the performance hasnt increased that noticeably since the R32 (still my personal favorite). Perhaps a V8 to compete with Toyota's upcoming large displacement Supra replacement? What did they call it? 4000GT? 4500GT? 5000GT? In any case, with Toyota and Honda releasing even higher performing upscale cars for the JTCC, Nissan will most likely NOT use the XVL design/technical platform for its next GT racer; The XVL will probably be its own car, especially for Infiniti, to fit right between the I30 and the G20 (or replace the G20 altogether); Infiniti needs something to compete against the Lexus IS300 and this is its likely answer. The REAL McCoy stateside? Rumors of its coming have been sprouting since Mitsubishi suggested it may sell the Lancer EVO series here to take on the WRX. For now we will have to suffice with the pricey Skylines imported by Motorex here in Southern California, which some of you may know about. I do not know where you all live, but if you can get down here, drop by Torrance and give them a visit if you really want a Skyline, legal to drive in the US. (Im still saving to buy my ~$40,000 used R32). Its quite refreshing to see GTRs rolling around here. You can contact them at (310) 224-5085, sales@skylinegtr.com http://www.skylinegtr.com

Oh dear god, please Nissan, anything but that horrid looking car. I will import a Skyline if they bring them over here looking like that:eek:

Just noticed something of interest?!
Check out: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=21684#post21684

Look at this first post by Igor. Is it just me or does anyone else think that the new Altima is MORE like the XVL?! Specially at the C-pillar?

Just me being hopeful that the XVL really has nothing to do with the Skyline:cool: :confused:

Compare too:

Okay, I know this is a long post, but I have been reading all the R35 GT-R forums for a while, and this is what I think of the whole situation:

The new Altima is based on the XVL platform too, as well as the new Z and several other upcoming Nissans. The new Skyline sedan is based on the XVL like the Altima and other upcoming 4-door Nissans. The new Skyline GT-R will be based on the XVL platform as well, which in my guess is the same or very similar to the new Z. What I am trying to say is that the whole XVL thing does not necessarily apply to the 4-door Skyline, but it is a platform with many different variations.

I am almost certain that the new GT-R will not look like the 4-door Skyline. I believe that's the point that Nissan is trying to make (to further differentiate the Skyline and the GT-R models). It will still most likely carry the Skyline name, and I am sure that they will redesign most of the body and that they will use round tailights. They will still probably use the "vertical" headlights (like the new Z, and Skyline sedan), just maybe redesign them a bit and make them more aggressive.

Basically I expect the new Skyline to be somewhat similar in looks/feel to the new Z. With wide fender flares, and an aggresive, wide, bold, compact, and muscular body design (imagine a slightly larger Audi TT on steroids). Anymay, that is my vision, I will try to put this into an illustration and post it in the forum sometime.

Duuuuuuuuuuuude long post indeed;) kidding I do longer ones:D

I do however have to disagree with you, the new Altima IS the XVL concpet. The more I look at it the more I'm sure of it. The new Z concept is NOT based on the XVL, the Z is much shorter in length. Nissan made sure of that so that people would not think a 2+2 was in the works. The idea that the Skyline GT-S (4dr sedan) is based on the XVL?! Well maybe, release under the Infinity badge. Other company's do it so sure why not.

Most importantly, the Skyline GT-R based on the XVL. Before I thought maybe, but after seeing that the XVL IS the platform for the Altima. There is no way (unless Ghosn got his head stuck up his ass too) that the GT-R would be based on the XVL platform.

If what you say were true that's 4 different cars based on the same platform, more if you think of the different versions of Skylines/Stagea/etc.

Yes I know many cars are based off of concepts, but they take what people like off the concept and put it in where it would work, i.e. sports, sedan, SUV, etc. They don't make multiple cars off of one concept cars platform.

Unless someone know's of such a thing ever happing?

See longer post:D

BTW: Welcome to the forum 240.

Various sources say that Nissan has taken "lessons" from Ferdinand Piech, with his Volkswagon empire. You all KNOW that various compact Audis and VWs share a single platform; this is a very economic strategic marketing strategy. Make the chassis so that it can take all sorts of differing shapes. The question is, will the XVL design concept be likely to be the Japanese counterpart? Most likely. Nissan is in financial disaster (probably from focusing on too many sports cars and not enough cash-cows, you know the cheap, realiable ugly cars that make a lot of $$$, and SUVs).

Well it seems like reform is on the menu; more SUVs, and more competetive econoboxes are being released from the Blue Red & White. The Infiniti line will include an FX45 monster truck (I detest SUVs, but if it helps Nissan monetarily, then praise be to them) (on a side note, why is it that ANYTHING with all-wheel drive/4-wheel drive gets the name placard with an "X" in it? Marketing losers stop referring to BMW with their 1980s 3-series x). With Renault's support perhaps Nissan can revive its sportscar place in the industry sooner than Mazda + Ford (RX-8).

But will Nissan use the XVL base frame for the next Skyline? Do you really think that the Skyline image will benefit from a "second-hand" chassis? Perhaps Nissan's other cars may use it, but the Skyline is its international flagship, a car which must be the forerunner in automotive technology (much like Mercedes Benz's CL) I do not deny that Nissan of America may use the XVL chassis for "our Skyline" but would that be a smart marketing strategy? placing the Skyline in the same league as the 2003 Z? Sure they are different by dimensions and drivetrain, but the Skyline is designed to be a highly-technical elite grand tourer, not a stripped down, free spirited, rear-wheelspin GT. If Nissan uses the XVL solely for the U.S. Skyline, who cares? One will always be able to import Japanese Skylines, so that eliminates all controversy.

QR25? VQ35? Direct Injection? The bottom line is, Nissan IS making a comeback, of some sort. Hopefully, they will answer our querys of "how"...

[excess data: who believes in the die-cast QR25? I still root for the sand-casted SR20, which can put up with loads more psi from a turbine, which the 2.5 is vulnerable to with its thin cylinder walls. It is almost as if Nissan has gone the ways of Honda and Toyota's new weak & cheap high-revving gimmicky motors... say it isnt so]

for the newest info on the new skyline go ahead and check out http://mag-x.com
this is one of the leading automotive news mags in Japan and they put up info on their scoops up on this site in ENGLISH. Lots of cool stuff... new info on the next Stagea too. woo hoo!

and for the dude that claims those photos are fake.. of course they are fake! they are CG from BestCar mag (I have the issue in which they appeared) but they are the best anyone has so far so shut up. Best Car has been on top of this since the R34 was released. BestCar is THE leading auto news mag in Japan (they are way better than MagX in my opinion but I can't buy them in the states without driving to Chicago(the nearest place with a japanese bookstore)) so I have look at MagX every 26th of the month.

My mistake R35USA. I thought I read that the new Z was based on XVL, but now that I look back into the April 2001 issue of Sport Compact Car, here's what it actually said (direct quote):

"The Z will ride an all-new chassis, but it is a chassis we will see again. Part of Nissan's plan to return to financial solvency has involved consolidating platforms, so there will be only one high-performance rear-drive platform that will likely be the basis of the next Skyline as well as some more accessible sports sedans."

Now that I think of it, if you combine this info with all of the recent rumors, it all kinda comes together and actually makes sense!

Rumors:

1.) "The GT-R will be separated from the regular Skyline sedan."
-> Makes sense if the sedan is based on the XVL and the GT-R is based on the Z platform.

2.) "The GT-R will be powered by a Twin-Turbo 3.5 liter V6."
-> Guest what engine powers the Z? The lightweight all-aluminum naturally-aspirated VQ35DE. The GT-R's engine will probably be called the VQ35DETT.

3.) "The GT-R will be sold in the US under the Infinity badge."
-> Nissan sells the Z, Infinity sells the more upscale GT-R. Just like Infinity does with other Nissan platforms.

It really makes sense if you think about it. Sell the Z as a low-cost (relatively speaking) simple, rear-wheel drive sports car. Then pack the same platform with all kinds of computers, twin-turbos, and all-wheel drive and market it as a technological showcase under the Infinity badge. What do you think?

Yup yup agree with you 100% 240.

However do I agree with Nissan for doing this? Not really.

I agree with Morph on the principal that the Skyline is "the Skyline is designed to be a highly-technical elite grand tourer". The Skyline IS and should always be (at least the GT-R) a stand alone car. This is more expensive true, but we are talking about what it should be.

I also hope that IF they do use the same platform as the Z (I can live with it), upgrade it and sell the Skyline under the Infinity badge (yes I will buy it), that they only do this to the State side version and not harm the current GT-R that our friends in Japan, Australia, and England are driving.

Hey R33 what do you think about the "new" design? If Nissan changes the Skyline to make the US market happy, will you still respect us in the morning? :smoka:

OK really any Aussie's have a thought on this? Since this can forever change the car that we all love.

I just read this in Motortrend.

2003 Infiniti XVL: Built on a new corporate rear-drive platform, the XVL concept has production intentions - the question is where it will fit in the model range. We've heard both G20 replacement and late J30 replacement. Dimensionally, the XVL is closer to the G20 than the I30, suggesting that the original G20 rumor heard from within Nissan is true. (XVL is about five inches longer and two inches wider than the G20.) The distinct shape cheats the wind with a low 0.28 drag coefficient. For reference: length 182.5 inches, width 68.3 inches, 57.7 inches, and wheelbase 111.2 inches. On sale summer 2002.

Nice post man, and i still hope those things are coming over here, well at least let them bring over the older models too:D

yea..i heard it was gonna b a vq on some other website, i always wanted a rb though...hey igor, how do you say skyline in japanese(outta curiousity)?

Su Ka E Ra E N

Really the name is the same, just the "hatsuon" or pronounciation that is different :D

Hey R33, what do you think of the new Skyline? If......

Actually, I am really biased towards the R34/33/32 look for the GTR. They have this 60s raw look, like the classic Mustang you see in Bullit. Awesome,kick ass,powerful,industrial,you-wanna-fuck-with-me-I'd-fuck-you-and-your-girlfriend-and-your-mother kind of look!:greenchai :badass: :aug2: Personally, I don't like those rounded Porsche/new Nissan Z/BMW/Ferrari look. Kind of whimpy look best suited for women who thing they can drive well and men who buy sports car just to get the chicks at clubs! I just HATE those looks!:zx11pisse

So, if the new GTR is gonna look anything like the new Z/XVL or even like the one being circulated in the net, NO, I am not going to like it and I WOULDN'T buy it! I would stick with my 33 or later buy a 34 and that's it.

But this is just my personal taste talking. A man's meat may be another's poison.

well said r33!:D

Buwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!:hehe:

Here, here R33. I think you totally said what many of us feel.

Don't plan a trip back to Japan till 2003:( Hope they still have a new R34 around at the dealers then. Bah! Then again if the XVL does become the next Skyline I'll buy a used R34 and pay MotoRex to convert it over.

Man with all us Yank's waiting and praying for the R35 to make it to the US I wonder how sales would be with an XVL/R35?

I'm sure good/so-so, but I imagine diehard Skyline fans will boycott?!

I want one so bad I have no idea what I'd do?:confused:

Hey, I just read that the Skylines are going to be separated from GTR altogether. So, the new GTR will not be known as Skyline GTR anymore, possibly just Nissan GTR. So, if that was correct, the new GTR would not be like anything near the new Skylines. Perhaps it's totally new design although the engine could be a derivative of the 3 litre V6 of the new Skyline.
There is still hope that the Japs are going to get it right after all.:frog:

Can I get an AMEN! Praise the lord!

Well guess we have to wait and see.

Darn tho, I've alway's loved the Skyline name, even when it was called the Prince Skyline. It'll be hard to be driving a plain GT-R. Guess I'll have to add a few MODS to make myself feel better:D

It does make sense, with all the company's switching (specially the higher end market) away from names and going with just a letter or number designation. Most notably Intergra => RS-X.

Hey R33 if the article was online can you share the link. I just love reading everything I can about the Skyline:smoka:

I hate to say it but if you take the r35 and make the nose slightly pointier, add an air induction hood and changed the doors slightly wouldnt it be a firebird. :)
I am seriousy going to miss the r 32-34 generations.

Wouldn't it be funny if Nissan is playing April fools on us all? But just couple months late? :D

Buwahahahaha "April fools " indeed. I think we would all just have to jump on a "Jet plane" and kill someone at Nissan if that were true:aug2: Just too cruel of them:devil:

[Off-topic]
Can I please change your name to something shorter? :rolleyes:

YES, please do:D Back to just plain R35 would be great.

Thank you:)

Or did you mean R35USA?

Nah, just plain R35 is good. This way if I end up not likeing the new body style I can still importing an R34 and put an R35 badge on it:p

Well 7 more day's and we should here from Nissan about the new Skyline "6/18 the Skyline spirit is reborn" yuk yuk:angel:

Makes me want to cry everytime I think about it...:cry:

Hey why doesnt Nissan just keep the R34 for awhile longer and give it to us here????:confused:

Well the R33 was aroud for quite some time right, sooooo why dont they just continue with the R34, but no Nissan's got some thing wrong in there heads!!!!:mad:

But at least they are gonna give us one thats cool with me.:D

Ah another die hard Skyline lover, Welcome brother BurninRich. Brother Igor will show you to your Nissan Executive, feel free to bYatch slap him till your hearts content.:devil:

It's 6/14/01 do you know what the new R35 will look like?! Find out 6/18/01. Bring Your Own Byatch slapping device if Nissan gets it wrong.:aug2:

:hehehe: lol

The new concept skylines look cool. But the old ones had a certain cool about them. They may look 'normalish', but they rock!