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smelmygreddy
07-16-2004, 10:18 PM
hey evryone this is the thread where you will se my merc and my scracthbuilt chopper progress
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/60256174.jpg

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/60256169.jpg

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/60256140.jpg

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/60256064.jpg

and last but not least my plans for my chopper im learing how to weld this weekend so i can start it please leav any comments or suggestions

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/60256051.jpg

Thanks, David

GTmike400
07-17-2004, 12:01 AM
You should post your Merc in your on going Merc thread.

I dont mean to be rude, but what the hell is that a drawing of? A bicycle frame?

Just a tip when welding, welding takes years to master. I dont want to sound like I am bragging but my welding "teacher" said a year or so back when I started welding that I was a "natural prodegy"; I was doing things in hours that took people days to do; anyway, even I am still learning things. Welding may look easy, but what looks like a good weld can be total shit.

smelmygreddy
07-17-2004, 12:36 AM
i dont want to start any thing with you mike but i understand that it takes time to learn how to weld good it also helps that my dad has been welding for about 40 years so i have a good teacher im going to set my mind to it and nothing else so lets see how i do and im going to delte my old thread and that is a basic layout i did it in about 2 mins so yea it is crap and if u think im being an idiot please tell me mike im sry :sly:

GTmike400
07-17-2004, 12:47 AM
i dont want to start any thing with you mike but i understand that it takes time to learn how to weld good it also helps that my dad has been welding for about 40 years so i have a good teacher im going to set my mind to it and nothing else so lets see how i do and im going to delte my old thread and that is a basic layout i did it in about 2 mins so yea it is crap and if u think im being an idiot please tell me mike im sry :sly:

Yes, welding takes time to learn. What kind of welding are you learning, arc, gas, MIG, TIG? TIG is probably the hardest, and MIG is the easiest.

Anyway, the chopper frame looks more like a bicycle frame. Look at choppers and study the frames, and pieces.

smelmygreddy
07-17-2004, 01:24 AM
tig and mig then when im in high school as a freshman they teach us stick for some reason lolill show u sum welds mike cummon ppl 50 views and 3 replys

labandabonnot
07-17-2004, 03:40 AM
The Merc looks promising. I like the cut door projects, and this one looks good! I hope you'll send us many pis of your steps on this build! :D

For the chopper... Oh! I just realized what it was! It's a kind of bike! Surely not the easiest project!
Before having the frame drawn, do you have sketches of the whole thing, an idea of the engine, the wheels and tires, and how to scratchbuild all the little parts a bike are made of?... and that are for sure much more difficult to reproduce than car's parts... I feel a pic or a drawing would be more teasing for those who don't know... :D
Keep us updated!

http://www.chromemasters.com/black%20chopper.jpg
(that's a chopper, isn't it?...)

GTmike400
07-17-2004, 09:30 AM
tig and mig then when im in high school as a freshman they teach us stick for some reason lolill show u sum welds mike cummon ppl 50 views and 3 replys

Go look in my hot rod thread, I have been posting pics of welds and even a close up of one of them.

Tommycool666
07-17-2004, 11:24 AM
well first off your chopper frame doesnt look like a bycicle frame it looks like one of those old school chopper frames from the early days (50's) you kno the rebel bikes. the merc looks alright, just my opinion that the chop coulda been better, but it isnt done yet so i'll have to see, but its looks good and its coming along, can you email me some more pics of your merc please, closer up ones of the sides and your chop. tommycool666@yahoo.com

Tommycool666
07-17-2004, 11:41 AM
here is a bycilce frame so noone gets confused between a bycicle and a chopper http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/188362Mach.jpg

smelmygreddy
07-17-2004, 01:24 PM
thanks everyone yes it is i got boed and made that i have a better one ill show everyone tonight with more progres of my merc thank you tommy wut kindabike is that a litespeed? im also into bike mountain bikes and road bikes not walmart kmart or target bike my kinda bike costs 5000$ o weel cummon ppl

smelmygreddy
07-17-2004, 01:42 PM
thank you josh that is my other sketch i will be working on it

Skateforfood
07-18-2004, 04:46 PM
Wow, After reading this kiddy fight I omost forgot what forum I was in. Anyway good progress smellmygready. Also did you just use glazing putty? If so it will crack sense it is supost to be used to cover up tiny spots.

Tommycool666
07-18-2004, 08:21 PM
Ok, lets all stop bashing eachother, and all that shyt and lets start seeing some damn photos of ur car.LOL!!!

white97ex
07-18-2004, 10:52 PM
it looks like the places that the glazing putty was used, is for minor touch up/ fill work. i beleive it will be alright. im gonna get back into the fight, only be civilized about it. i just want to know how old mike actually is. if he is only 16, we can be looking for some awesome customs coming from this kid in years to come

Tommycool666
07-18-2004, 11:03 PM
well i wish i could see more pics, but white, go look at my merc too. lol , ok i hope everyhtin is comiin along well there greddy,

GTmike400
07-18-2004, 11:49 PM
it looks like the places that the glazing putty was used, is for minor touch up/ fill work. i beleive it will be alright. im gonna get back into the fight, only be civilized about it. i just want to know how old mike actually is. if he is only 16, we can be looking for some awesome customs coming from this kid in years to come

Just a brief message, I am 16 years of age.

Hey SMG, any updates?

white97ex
07-19-2004, 12:06 AM
i think he might have been to busy rading the bickering. maybe now that its over he can go back to work. hehe. i can't wait to see some more progress on that merc

StephenDeli
07-19-2004, 01:17 AM
The merc looks very promising to me in this thread and its own progress thread. Cant wait to see more progress on the chopper. Keep up the good work!

smelmygreddy
07-19-2004, 12:54 PM
wow when i looked at it in the main thing i though everyone had ideas and crap for my chopper and merc i was amazed at all the crap u ppl posted if a mod would go thruogh and delete all the pointless crap or i will just make a new thread thank you every one that wasnt posting crap and the ppl who apologized i may get more progress soon ive been working on a modifiers lol

J_Swigz
07-19-2004, 07:38 PM
I'm at work right now, but when I get home I can take care of that for you, or if you like you could PM Mike to take care of it as well. Any global basically.

smelmygreddy
07-19-2004, 08:24 PM
thank you mr swigz i appreciate it

GTmike400
07-19-2004, 08:27 PM
thank you mr swigz i appreciate it

You're thanking the wrong person, I just spent 10-15 minutes cleaning the mess that I made. :)

J_Swigz
07-20-2004, 12:16 AM
You're thanking the wrong person, I just spent 10-15 minutes cleaning the mess that I made. :)
Thank you Mr. Mike for your awesome services:thumbsup:

smelmygreddy
07-20-2004, 01:48 PM
then thank you mike i appricate it alot

willimo
07-20-2004, 03:24 PM
Blah blah blah.

Nice Merc, though, that will be awesome. I love how narrow the chop is... it's just beautiful. And you should make your chopper out of plastic, so GTMike keep his welding "natural prodegy" hoopla. Isn't Mike a mod? How come he stirs so much trouble then?

dag65
07-20-2004, 06:20 PM
Blah blah blah.

. Isn't Mike a mod? How come he stirs so much trouble then?
I have often wondered that myself.

tonioseven
07-20-2004, 06:40 PM
Geez, I have too many projects to build to waste time like this; I hope this thread gets back to being focused on the intended kits. :disappoin :screwy: Good luck with it!

91300zxtt
07-20-2004, 10:37 PM
Blah blah blah.

Nice Merc, though, that will be awesome. I love how narrow the chop is... it's just beautiful. And you should make your chopper out of plastic, so GTMike keep his welding "natural prodegy" hoopla. Isn't Mike a mod? How come he stirs so much trouble then?
mike just removed all that shit and you and dag start up again, way to skrew a thread up. MIKE or SWIGZ:banhim:

GTmike400
07-20-2004, 11:08 PM
Blah blah blah.

Nice Merc, though, that will be awesome. I love how narrow the chop is... it's just beautiful. And you should make your chopper out of plastic, so GTMike keep his welding "natural prodegy" hoopla. Isn't Mike a mod? How come he stirs so much trouble then?

Seems like whenever a flame war occurs its blamed on me half the time. When I post things I post them completely unintentional to stir the shit pot, I post them for informative reasons. I must not phrase things correctly. :eek7:

From now on, can we please keep this thread on track. If you have anything else to add to the previous discussion, contact me via PM.

Integra06
07-20-2004, 11:11 PM
mike just removed all that shit and you and dag start up again, way to skrew a thread up. MIKE or SWIGZ:banhim:

I agree.

I too would recommend making the frame out of styrene rod as it will be easier to work with than metal tubing would. I kinda have to agree with the people who said the frame looks like a bicycle frame. It just seems too boxy for it to be a motorcycle frame, plus with the mounting point for the rear wheel where it is, you'd be staring at the ground the whole time you were riding. Find some pictures of bare frames and take design cues from them, it's a lot easier to copy someone elses work the first couple times than to design your own parts the first time out. That said, you've got the right idea for what you want to do, it's just lacking design-wise. Add a few curves to it to give it a sleeker look, and make the bottom tubes bend up near the rear end and you'll be set. I speak from experience in building these kinds of bikes in 1:1, so it's not meant to call your work bad, just ways of improvement. Good luck with the builds and look forward to seeing more progress on them. :bigthumb:

smelmygreddy
07-27-2004, 08:55 PM
Here is some updates. Do you think it is to lowriderish? Please tell me if it is. http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/61452261.jpg
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/61452202.jpg
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/61452185.jpg
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/61452164.jpg
Last but not least the start of my gas tank.
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL557/2303286/4765223/61452142.jpg
No those are not my welds. I am going to weld it this weekend on the inside and cut out the bottom for it then sand the old welds down.

SchuberT
07-27-2004, 09:05 PM
well, the wires might make it a little like a lowrider, but it's a true leadsled

StephenDeli
07-27-2004, 09:12 PM
I would say yes only becuase these cars have soft suspensions.

smelmygreddy
07-28-2004, 01:32 AM
Come on people over a 1000 views and 32 good replys? I need advice form all of you experienced people. lol Thank you Stephen and schrubert.

alakai
07-28-2004, 07:01 AM
so far so good. the rims do make it look lowrider-ish, not sure if that's your intention or not. I can already imagine it with candy apple red paint and gold trim! :)

labandabonnot
07-28-2004, 08:43 AM
As I enjoy very much the shape of the car, I feel sorry to see those gold rims on it: to my eyes, they don't suit the car at all, lowriderish style or not (I know nothing about that)...
Puple + chrome ...and nothing else! :lol:
But just do as YOU like... :D

GTmike400
07-28-2004, 10:02 AM
I agree with labandabonnot. The rims just dont suit the car. Please dont make this car all "pimpy" and "ghetto", I suggest going for the clean street rod build. However its not my build, build what you want! Just my :2cents:

StephenDeli
07-28-2004, 10:32 AM
A nice set of Cragar S/S rims would suit this car nicely.

dag65
07-28-2004, 04:11 PM
mike just removed all that shit and you and dag start up again, way to skrew a thread up. MIKE or SWIGZ:banhim:
Wait you quote Willmo and blame me? Whatever!
SMG your Merc is coming along great, and no its not too "lowriderish".
In fact it is lowrider so to speak, the early led sleads and bombs were truly the first lowriders. The culture just grew from there.
I noticed you have chopped and shaved it and it looks like you are using glazing putty to fill, thats what I was doing before. O n my latest project I have used thick CA to join the pieces and thick CA and microballoons as filler. This works great, sands nicely and does not shrink.

GTmike400
07-28-2004, 04:17 PM
...microballoons as filler...

That stuff kicks ass. Be careful though as it does get extremely chemically hot in large doses. I normally use it for coating hardened fiberglass work on airplanes since it weighs nothing (literally).

dag65
07-28-2004, 04:20 PM
That stuff kicks ass. Be careful though as it does get extremely chemically hot in large doses. I normally use it for coating hardened fiberglass work on airplanes since it weighs nothing (literally).
Yeah it sure does, funny Mike I use it on RC gliders and sailplanes, love slope soaring here in Colorado.
I should warn people though that CA can be very toxic and its best used in a well ventilated area, and also baking soda works well with CA as a filler also. Aplly the Ca and just sprinkle on some baking soda or microballoons

Tommycool666
07-28-2004, 07:21 PM
Well , this is a cool competition between urs and mine , u have working doors and trun k i dont . but as far as body mods i think u shoud do more , liek shortening that side trim to the halfway mark of the doors, and put lake pipes on it, (side pipes)

smelmygreddy
07-28-2004, 07:23 PM
i think im gonna use the stock wheels and tires and put those on my next build

Tommycool666
07-28-2004, 07:23 PM
i think both of our mercs will look hot when they are finished. wut color u goin to do it?

IImportSupra
07-28-2004, 08:30 PM
i like the Heavy White walls wit the datons, looks g'd up.

smelmygreddy
07-29-2004, 07:11 PM
I am goig to postpone this project to work on my 57' 300c. thats is gonna be a true custom. I'll get a thread going on that tomorrow. Thanks everyone!
David

smelmygreddy
08-21-2004, 12:48 AM
Hey everyone long time no see? uh well my friend was over i had my merc pretty much done and he picked it up to look at it and left it on the floor. I started to work on my chopper a little more he was up looking at somthing on my desk and lost his ballance and fell. He picked up my merc and looked at it I thoght it looked fine i took it from him and left c pillar was snapped in half all the bondo fell off and the b pillar broke and the bottom of where the trunk is he was like "Oh thas easy to fix" the whole side off the car was lopsided he said just put some bondo and sand it. So long story short im not going to finish my merc I do not fell like spending as much time building the whole car just to fix all that i may or may not have pics but i am mainly working on my chopper rite now! it is coming along nicely I will have a thread for that in a little whil well i may try to make him buy me a new one or if he doesnt im gonna bu one and finish it i dont think ive ever been that angry in my life o well i guess

labandabonnot
08-21-2004, 09:39 AM
:eek7: :(

supratuner
08-21-2004, 09:56 AM
thats why you should never let your friends be arond your models

sorry to hear that though

GTmike400
08-21-2004, 10:54 AM
No offense but what a jackass. My friend and I build models and he dropped one of mine, nothing big happened but he apologized prefusely and offered to fix it.

Tommycool666
08-21-2004, 07:24 PM
damn i was really expecting ur car, looks liek mine will be on here sooner lol , i have two that will be on here soon , real soon. im waitin for a nice day to paint one of them , send me some pics of ur merc i want to see the damage tommycool666@yahoo.com

Tommycool666
08-21-2004, 09:55 PM
i seriously would make him buy u a new one or give u the money for a new 49 merc kit, cuz thats a lot of hard work and heart to put into it and then for him to say put more filler on there and sand it i woulda knocked his head off his damn shoulders, but please send me some pics of ur damage and make him buy u a new kit, and then fix the current merc and then build another one lol , u can fix it easily im sure , u dont know how many time the roof came off my merc, and it set me back for liek 2 days to get it perfect again, it broke off like 5 times cuz i dropped it , but it looks damn good now so , just dont give up on it

supratuner
08-21-2004, 10:56 PM
one question for you guys

ive dropped plenty of models in the past few days, usually just the body its self, not the whole car

but 2 imes i droped my civic coupe off of the deck when trying to paint it, thats a 15 foot fall onto some plants, not a single scratch, and thats with wet paint

another time with my HB civic right after taking picks for the project thread, i droped it 5 feet onto concret, yet again, not a single mark showing where it happend.

how are your guys cars falling apart after these falls?

am i just having good luck>?

Tommycool666
08-22-2004, 10:06 PM
yes ur deffinatley having good luck, cuz when mine drop they always break but thats because i drop mine right where the putty is so it cracks easy, ur day will come when urs break too , we all get lucky there were a few times i dropped mine and they didnt break

supratuner
08-22-2004, 10:27 PM
i knew going to church 3 times a week, and praying every night was gonna pay off...



just kidding, tho i do go to church, and do believe in god, just couldnt resist that joke.

smelmygreddy
08-22-2004, 11:11 PM
yea i may have pics soon

GTmike400
08-23-2004, 04:35 PM
one question for you guys

ive dropped plenty of models in the past few days, usually just the body its self, not the whole car

but 2 imes i droped my civic coupe off of the deck when trying to paint it, thats a 15 foot fall onto some plants, not a single scratch, and thats with wet paint

another time with my HB civic right after taking picks for the project thread, i droped it 5 feet onto concret, yet again, not a single mark showing where it happend.

how are your guys cars falling apart after these falls?

am i just having good luck>?

Its because of the putty they use...

SchuberT
08-23-2004, 04:42 PM
Hmmmm, I haven't dropped a single model yet? I've only built, like, five, but still...

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