Coming back home from the mall last night...i ran into this tight ass lookin (fast & the furious wannabe) RX-7. Perfect Timing we hit a red light....i looked in and he had his little oil & fuel pressure gauges all flexin ( oooh....scary!:o )....So i revved him up NASTY!!!
So like when the light turned green...i was outrooo....i looked in my rear view mirror and he was still back there...i was up like a car....dumped it in 3rd and pulled even more!!! So i just dumped it in 5th, waiting for this Beeeyatch to catch up....so i let him pass me up and we go under this tunnel....all of a sudden he switches all the way to the right...under the bridge and revs me up hard!!! I'm like...alright.....Ur gonna get a taste of this VTEC in ur face!!!:bloated:
So to make a long story short....i kicked his ass....he didn't pull on me until 4th-5th gear....is it cuz i have more juice off the line...& he has more high end power?? Or was he just messin with me???
Daaamn...sure felt good cuz his girl was laughing that he got chomped by a GIRL!!!hehe:eek:

Whaddya guys think????

i think your lying your ass off...

I'm with him. I gonna call BS on this one. :flipa:

why do people call BS? why would she lie? i would just say he was screwing with you before you call BS

i would say he was toying with.

any rx-7 pulls tough through all gears, i think this guy was just toying you, giving you a lead, then just easily catching up.

HEHE...I thought so....but it felt good for a moment...
but hey...I caught another race on the freeway the other day with this Camaro SS....it was a tough race....but i took him out by a bumper...we were going faaaast on the freeway.. i couldn't even tell how fast i was going cuz my gauges top out at 130....but we were sure enough goin faster than that!!!
I got a question....everytime I race...around 8500rpm's...my check engine sign always goeson....i had it checked out and they can't seem to find anythingwrongwith the motor...do u think it's the sensor???
What could it be???

Originally posted by SickLude
i think your lying your ass off...

Hey you know what???? Don't call me a liar cuz i was just askin a queston okay??

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
HEHE...I thought so....but it felt good for a moment...
but hey...I caught another race on the freeway the other day with this Camaro SS....it was a tough race....but i took him out by a bumper...we were going faaaast on the freeway.. i couldn't even tell how fast i was going cuz my gauges top out at 130....but we were sure enough goin faster than that!!!


what exactly do you have done to your civic? cuz something isnt right about this statement.... :confused:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC


Hey you know what???? Don't call me a liar cuz i was just askin a queston okay?? ok look, im sorry, but unless you have a large turbo, or a Vortec blower, theres no way that would have happened. oh wait. there is a way....the guy in RX-7 temporarly fell asleep during the race, which enabled you to take the lead and eventually "win"...but ill take your word for it. :rolleyes: .


deuces

Yes, since you said you smoked an SS...I demand to know what you have done to your car...

i really dont your ls_vtec can give you that much power to take on a camaro ss unless you have turbo.

But u know how freeway races are...they aren't always fair...there's all sorts of cars that get in the way...
Anyway...u wanna know what i have in my civ?

I have a 68mm Throttle body built by Erick's Racing, Type-R Headers-Exhaust (& Suspension ;) ), Del Sol Tranny, Type-R Rods & Pistons (CTR), and a vtec controller. I Only use race gas...VP Race Fuels 108 Octane!! High Compression wastes a gang of gas!..But u have to keep in mind the weight reduction in my car...the camaro was waaay heavier...and plus he had another person in there....:p i'm tellin u every little thing counts!!!

High octane gas is used to reduce the chance of detonation.:rolleyes:

Now that you have listed your mods, I have realized that both these guys were either

A) Toying with you

B)Trying to stay even with you to get a look at your face for a second (if they were male drivers)
or
C)Racing even though they had MASSIVE engine problems

Originally posted by 00accord44
C)Racing even though they had MASSIVE engine problems MASSIVE yo. unless your pushing a turbo, its not gonna happen. im sorry. someone raise the BS flag please.

deuces

eeeew....Haters up in here..

Sorry to hear that everyone is flaming on you but they have a good reason.....You're fulla $#!t You could have all the same mods, be driving on just a frame and still not have enough "weight reduction" to beat even the SS considering my friends stock 93 RX-7 will smoke an SS. Not trying to be too mean:devil: But c'mon...okay, benefit of the doubt they are prolly letting you win but please don't think that you can take on an RX-7 with that little list of mods without backing it up with a time slip or something:flipa:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
eeeew....Haters up in here.. dude, i am so not a hater. you have to realize, people on this board will tell you things your probably gonna get mad about. i dont think ive done that here, for all im doing is telling you the truth. its just not gonna happen. an SS?? give me a break. and an RX7?? never. just be kind enough to admit your defeat...


deuces

Okay...well glad u feel that way...I graciously admit my defeat, However, i felt it was worth the post...!
Don't think i have proof...i have time slips and my dyno charts, if you'd like, i'll put it up for u guys...
U have to OPEN UR BRAIN (yes for once)....and realize that I was just asking u guys a question....I wasn't claiming a win....I was just surprised by what happened....I kinda felt he was sandbaggin and so I just wanted to know what u guys thought...And now i do...so THanks! I ain't mad about what anyone says....Dude i'm always open to a well deserved loss!:D
Just don't call me anything....cuz u don't know me:finger:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC

Don't think i have proof...i have time slips and my dyno charts, if you'd like, i'll put it up for u guys...

i'd like to see those

Originally posted by 95vteclude


i'd like to see those

no doubt! As soon as i can get it scanned....it'll be up 4 ya!;)

Peace.....

I don't doubt that you were ahead of the SS on the highway. But that's in no way because you're faster, mainly because, like yous aid you were weaving in and out of traffic.
I think its dumb to be weaving in and out of traffic while racing. Not safe. I'm sure the SS felt the same way. Why waste the gas to risk killing yourself?

If you pulled along side of me on the highway in traffic, I sure as hell wouldn't risk it. If it was open, I'd open her up and let 'er rip!

Originally posted by Blackbird01
I don't doubt that you were ahead of the SS on the highway. But that's in no way because you're faster, mainly because, like yous aid you were weaving in and out of traffic.
I think its dumb to be weaving in and out of traffic while racing. Not safe. I'm sure the SS felt the same way. Why waste the gas to risk killing yourself?

If you pulled along side of me on the highway in traffic, I sure as hell wouldn't risk it. If it was open, I'd open her up and let 'er rip!

For realz!! It was kinda scary!

well, whatever happened to the race with the rx76 and the SS u won... plain and simple... BUT i still think those cars gave u a head start or something....... maybe your a hottie and they wanted u to win... any pics? :D

Hah. That could be it too.
I know I'd let a cute girl beat me! ;):D

HAHA...U guys are funny....See that's the benefit of being a girl racer....Sometimes they just let u win!!!;)

2002 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.5 seconds
1997 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.8 seconds
1999 Integra Type R = 15.1
1993 Rx-7 R1 = 13.9 seconds
1995 Rx-7 R2 = 14.1

First off, there is no way a stock '93 Rx-7 would smoke ANY SS. Maybe win if the SS wasn't running its best, or if it was have serious traction problems. Either way, I would think it would be a very close race. I've raced a '95 Rx-7 with exhaust in my 1995 Z28 with i/h/e and won by about a half a car. Secondly, for the girl, there is no way in hell you beat an SS in a drag race. Didn't happen. Assuming you have a Type R(which you don't) you'd be getting MURDERED by an SS. Then, let's assume you've gone through some massive weight loss and threw on the mods you mentioned, you'd still only be running a 14.3ish(at best). Hardly enough to smoke an SS. Through traffic would be a different story, and would have nothing to do with your car, or even your driving. Instead it would deal almost entirely with your luck, and how the traffic was flowing in front of you. Stupid, btw.:rolleyes:

Oooh...Ahem! My best time was 13.9 i have thetime slips to prove it!!
Not soo far off from a 13.5 eh?

you have got show us some slips and tell us what exactly you have done to your car...and i dont care about looks...i wanna know whats making it go "13.9 sec."....

you've been talkin about these pics, timeslips, and dyno charts for weeks now.


still havent been posted, even when you were called out in the girls forum.

never heard so much BS in my life it doesn't take long to scan it anywayz

and erm yea i changed my user name anyone know any way to get the post count back up to what it was ..... ? anyone ?

IT TAKES LONG IF U DON'T OWN A SCANNER!.....ANYWAY....BE PATIENT...IT'S A VIRTUE!!! LAAAAAAAATES
Relax everyone.......SHEEEEEESH!
BS this...BS that......CHILL!

We can call BS all we want until you can show us some time slips.
Until then, your story is BS.

BTW, the 2001+ Camaro Z28 and SS along with the 2001+ Trans Am and T/A WS6 can and HAVE run 12's right out of the factory.

Last spring, with my car being BONE STOCK I brought it to the drag strip.
First pass of the day was:
12.907@108.25 with a 2.01 60'

Backed it up with:
12.96@108
12.99@107

Just a little FYI for ya.

BTW, I'm not calling BS on the story. Maybe the RX7 WANTED to race, but his g/f was in the car didnt you say? I know my g/f HATED it when I would get into races. Maybe she yelled at him to stop?

I already told you what I thought happened with the SS on the highway.
;)

erm yea ? i dun own a scanner you said you could scan it earlier something smells n i dun mean my ass either! :flash:

15.1 seems kinda slow for a type r. My friend ran 14.9 in a 2000 si with i/h/e and a short shifter. i was skeptical till i saw the timeslip. MY brother ran a 13.23 in his stock SS and it has done better since.

Originally posted by Blackbird01
BTW, the 2001+ Camaro Z28 and SS along with the 2001+ Trans Am and T/A WS6 can and HAVE run 12's right out of the factory.

Last spring, with my car being BONE STOCK I brought it to the drag strip.
First pass of the day was:
12.907@108.25 with a 2.01 60'

Backed it up with:
12.96@108
12.99@107

Just a little FYI for ya.

BTW, I'm not calling BS on the story. Maybe the RX7 WANTED to race, but his g/f was in the car didnt you say? I know my g/f HATED it when I would get into races. Maybe she yelled at him to stop?

I already told you what I thought happened with the SS on the highway.
;)

DAAAAMN....I never knew the new SS ran 12 sec's
STOCK!!:eek:
Good Job Man!!!!!!

it ran 12's stock, in an ideal altitude probably

Hey does anyone know how to put up pictures on this after it's scanned....Cuz i have my stuff scanned, I just don't know what to do now??:confused: hehe sorry im computer illiterate....almost:cool:

u're BSin


it under attach file ? ? ?? ? ? ?? you're talking out of your ass aren't u? how can u be that ? urg yea i'll shut up because i dun really want to flame u but erm i'm in shock :eek:

yea.....my brother in law rund mid to low 14's in his 2nd gen jdm b16 hatchback........only mods are intake and dc headers......it's the only car that i've been in that's fixed up and that shit pulls pretty hard, especially when it hits vtec......just MY OPINION........don't go around and be like "b16 don't pull that hard" or anything, cuz im only 15 and he's the only guy i know personaly w/ a modded car. oh yea.......i saw an ls/vtec w/o the usual b16 head but a gs-r head and it had 192 @ wheels!......not completely stock, i forgot what kinda parts but it had like pistons and shit......but i heard ls/vtec are unreliable........i guess my future b16a2 civic coupe will just have to do.........:D :D .......with a vortech blower.......man........272 @ wheels!........talking about pulling hard.........wait 2 years everyone!......you'll all feel the wrath of my car.........:flipa: :devil: :finger:
:rolleyes: hopfully.....:D

Originally posted by Self
2002 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.5 seconds
1997 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.8 seconds
1999 Integra Type R = 15.1
1993 Rx-7 R1 = 13.9 seconds
1995 Rx-7 R2 = 14.1

First off, there is no way a stock '93 Rx-7 would smoke ANY SS. Maybe win if the SS wasn't running its best, or if it was have serious traction problems. Either way, I would think it would be a very close race. I've raced a '95 Rx-7 with exhaust in my 1995 Z28 with i/h/e and won by about a half a car. Secondly, for the girl, there is no way in hell you beat an SS in a drag race. Didn't happen. Assuming you have a Type R(which you don't) you'd be getting MURDERED by an SS. Then, let's assume you've gone through some massive weight loss and threw on the mods you mentioned, you'd still only be running a 14.3ish(at best). Hardly enough to smoke an SS. Through traffic would be a different story, and would have nothing to do with your car, or even your driving. Instead it would deal almost entirely with your luck, and how the traffic was flowing in front of you. Stupid, btw.:rolleyes:

hey hey i got a japanese video with a stock integra it has a 14.5 second quater mile

its been a few more weeks and still no timeslips or dyno slip posted......

i can run a better time this is pathetic


If you talk you better be able to back it up or prove it especially when you say you're gonna produce some time slips ...... I wonder if she was banned

come one guys......give her a break.....maybe she honestly doesn't know how to upload the slips.......maybe she honestly DID beat those cars........maybe those cars were honestly f**ked up..........and maybe she's honestly bullshitting the hell out of us.......but who knows.....all you guys know if she was a fine chick you guys would all be like "you beat an rx-7?.....wow.......good job!......"

then turn around pissing myself laughing cuz that would be a dumb hot chick - "get on the end of my cock you biotch:smoker: " and that would be that

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
then turn around pissing myself laughing cuz that would be a dumb hot chick - "get on the end of my cock you biotch:smoker: " and that would be that

riiiite.........in your gay ass volvo:flipa: .........i don't know if she's bullshitting or not but that doesn't mean you have to say some shit like that...i don't know this girl but still, you could show her some respect......shit

for real nsx...

after reading your posts for a few months, it seems quite evident that you like to type before thinking

RX7 was probably just messing around. Nuff said.

I don't consider it a race unless we've exchanged some words like "wanna race?" and get a response like... "Okay, from here to the light. No NOS."

My cousin, on the other hand, races people who don't even know they're being raced!!! He is so happy he smoked whatever, when really the other guy was just playing TAG or something.

whos rx7?

wassup dmc.....where in long beach are u at?.......that's a sweet looking car.....i don't know if you drive it around but i've never seen a car like that around......i don't know if it's your car but if it is......it's pretty tight.....do you have any mods on it?......i don't know much about that car except that it's from back to the future......:D........

Civic EX: 2600LBS (not counting that she said she has some weight reductions, according to her), divided by 250HP (this is with an LS-VTEC with b16 pistons on regular pump gas) equals 10.4LBS per HP.

Stock (although the 7 in her story had gauges) RX-7: 2800LBS, divided by 255HP (again, stock), equals 10.980LBS per HP. This is all assuming the RX-7 was a turbo...they did make N/A ones too.

Stock Camaro SS: 3400LBS, divided by 320HP, equals 10.625LBS per HP.

Not to mention either vehicle may have been automatic...although knowing Blackbird, he'll argue that the General's auto trannies are better than stick anyday...on the dragstrip...the auto doesn't have the benefit of an instant 2-gear (or three, depending on redline) downshift.

...2 cents...

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
250HP (this is with an LS-VTEC with b16 pistons on regular pump gas)

whoa... what the hell kinda hondas do they have where youre from??? its not that easy to just pull 250 n/a horses out of a 1.8liter, hybrid or not!

still, 250hp wouldnt be enough for a civic to beat a camaro ss. regardless of what the power/weight ratios say, a civic needs more than that to beat a stock camaro ss.

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


whoa... what the hell kinda hondas do they have where youre from??? its not that easy to just pull 250 n/a horses out of a 1.8liter, hybrid or not!

still, 250hp wouldnt be enough for a civic to beat a camaro ss. regardless of what the power/weight ratios say, a civic needs more than that to beat a stock camaro ss.

Well...you're lucky I can't find that old issue of ImportTuner which featured an LS-VTEC swap that spun the dyno to about 198HP AT-THE-WHEELS! But that's okay...I found something else that'll illustrate my point...page 75 of the summer2000 HondaTuning issue features a U.S.-spec b16 from a 1999 Civic Si, naturally aspirated (they turbo'd this car after this) putting 170HP to the wheels. That's with the b16 head and block...imagine this same car's block stroked to 1.8 liters...

And what's this about 250HP not enough to beat a Camaro SS? Are you telling me that the Suzuki Hayabusa's 170HP won't be enough to beat a 450HP Viper GT-S? It's ALL about power-to-weight...
...she'll probably lose on a drag strip, where the 'Maro's superior RWD traction will have her trying trying to chase it, but that's irrelevant on a freeway...

ahh yes import tuner....

babes and bass rather than real performance

might as well buy lowrider

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Well...you're lucky I can't find that old issue of ImportTuner which featured an LS-VTEC swap that spun the dyno to about 198HP AT-THE-WHEELS! But that's okay...I found something else that'll illustrate my point...page 75 of the summer2000 HondaTuning issue features a U.S.-spec b16 from a 1999 Civic Si, naturally aspirated (they turbo'd this car after this) putting 170HP to the wheels. That's with the b16 head and block...imagine this same car's block stroked to 1.8 liters...

And what's this about 250HP not enough to beat a Camaro SS? Are you telling me that the Suzuki Hayabusa's 170HP won't be enough to beat a 450HP Viper GT-S? It's ALL about power-to-weight...
...she'll probably lose on a drag strip, where the 'Maro's superior RWD traction will have her trying trying to chase it, but that's irrelevant on a freeway...

still youre not gonna get 250hp. maybe 220. thats after adding a lot more bolt on parts.

and i said 250hp isnt enough for a civic to beat an ss. a civic is fwd, which means traction problems galore due to the weight transfer on to the rear wheels from hard acceleration. thats the reason the fwd drag cars have such a hard time compared to the rwd ones. plus the camaros has a lot more torque and a much more usable powerband than the civic would. sure maybe the civic would out accelerate the camaro when theyre both at their peak hp points, but the camaro will be pulling for the rest of the time cuz it will have a better power/weight ratio at the other rpm points. and i doubt the civic will even pull on the camaro at peak hp, cuz of the superior torque of the camaro. dont believe me about torque making that much of a difference? why does my car (3000 lbs 160hp) pull away from a civic si (2600lbs 160hp) when we both hit it on the freeway? the civic clearly has a better power/weight ratio, but the civic only has 111b/ft of torque while mine has 165lb/ft torque. trust me i would have NO problem pulling away. of course the flatter power curve also comes into play there, as i dont have to wait for vtec to kick in before i get any power, but the same goes for the camaro.

if im on the highway why wouldnt i downshift into a gear that i would already be in the power band? why would i go from 5th to 4th if im doing like 50?

A 250 hp Civic smoking an SS? I think not. Like he said, torque and traction both play huge parts in the race, as well as the powerband of an SS being much stronger than that of the civic. I'm pretty sure the SS would pull a victory out against the Civic. Also, what's this about the automatic in an SS not being able to downshift?? As Blackbird can attest, the A4 tranny in an LS1 is able to downshift too a lower gear than the M6 from redline at almost every gear.

this chart is for a stock or near stock camaro ss. hp goes left to right, and torque goes right to left. note the extreme "flatness" of the torque curve.
http://auto-x.com/dynocharts/sikora.jpg

this chart is for a civic putting out 250hp and 170lb/ft of torque at the wheels via vortech supercharger.
http://www.redlineautosport.com/images/drivers/laurebernal/DYNO_2000CivicSi.jpg

now if both cars dropped to the proper gears for their speed and floored it, if they happened to be near max rpm, the civic MIGHT stand a chance. but as soon as they shifted and the rpms dropped, the civic will have lost a good deal of its power, while the ss will still be near max power.

and to the guy saying a ls/vtec having 250hp, i found this while looking for the dyno charts, this is some guys civic with a b20/b16 head, like an ls/vtec stroked to 2.0 liters:

B20B block, resleeved
B16A head, proper machine work done for VTEC conversion
Endyn/Wiseco 12:1 RollerWave pistons
Eagle rods
B16A cams
RC Engineering 370cc injectors
Mugen clone ECU (to be replaced with Hondata ECU soon)
JDM ITR tranny with factory LSD
ACT clutch - extreme pressure plate, performance street disc
Del Sol VTEC radiator
Place Racing & Energy Suspension engine mounts
K&N Filtercharger intake
DC ceramic coated 4-1 header
Greddy Evolution exhaust
As for power, Phillip at Intercrew is estimating at least 215hp/150lbft at the wheels.

i think it was superstreet that had an ls/vtec pumping out 190+ hp at the wheels.....but it wasn't the usual ls/vtec most people have seen.....it wasn't a b16, but a b18c1.......gs-r engine......i don't know if 250 at the wheels is all that easy n/a, cuz the all motor crx, the low 11 sec one has about 250, claimed......and that's w/ sponsors and shit.....i don't know much about ls/vtecs so i'll stop......but i'm not too sure this ls/vtec hatch would be able to beat an rx-7 or an SS.....so....i'm not gonna say anything cuz it might be true, who knows......what's next?......a civic hatchback beating a corvette or a viper......:D :eek: .........~wink wink~

How many of you attempting to respond to me have actually owned and DRIVEN a high-performance/NA/extended RPM's/DOHC-VTEC-powered car?

My last car was a 1990 Acura Integra GS which weighed in at about 2600LBS. I had a 5million series b16 with the optional LSD equipped, and the taller (relative to high-RPM Honda's) gearing that 5million series engines enjoy. It had an effective redline of 10000RPM's, of which I usually used it only up to 9500. I can get up to 88mph in SECOND GEAR at the fuel cut-off point...which means I can downshift to second gear when starting a freeway race at about 70. I DO NOT recommend this practice in any way, especially sinc this eventually led to my engine giving out in a oil-smoke, embarrassing fashion. BTW, my VTEC-switch point was at 6200RPM's. the car's top speed was about 155-160MPH, as determined by my friend in a Yamaha YZF-R I was chasing on the freeway...I also had I/H/E...with the "E" being a full repipe from header on down, and obviously a modified ECU.

I drive...even to this day...46 miles one-way, 5 days a week to go to work, and it's mostly freeway and highway (I-10, I-85, and back).

I NEVER-ever lost to any Mustang (though I admit most of the ones that tried me were mostly mild to stock...but then my car is in that category too) on the freeway. YES they were trying...when you are going 130+, and the other car is still in your rearview, though getting smaller, trust me, they're trying.

I usually get the jump on Camaro/Firechicken races, due to the fact that most of the time, they don't feel like they have to downshift. They usually catch up around the 120-140MPH mark, depending on the jump I get, due to their "natural" torque (more on this later) which allows them to bully their way through the exceedingly more resistant air drag. At this point, they usually walk past me, with their top-speed of 165MPH or so.

114FT-LB of torque will never be able to move a 2600LB car (i.e., a Civic Si). Just as 350FT-LBS of torque will NEVER move a 3300LB Camaro. Torque is always multiplied by the gearing MANY times over to put effective torque on the wheels. Multiple thousands of torque get to the wheels, in fact, even in the case of the Civic Si, so that the car may be pushed or pulled forward at a specified rate. This is how Honda tries to cope with it's engines' low TQ output...Honda uses short gearing, to multiply it's TQ output even more, and closely spaced gears, so that you never fall out of the "sweet spot" of it's peaky engines.

By the time I hit 140+MPH, I am usually heading towards 5th gear, which ends my lower-gear/higher TQ factor, which effectively leads me to almost rely on my car's "natural torque", which we all know, is non-existent.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you have to have been there to become the true believer that I've become. Oh, I would say I'm a good driver...I learned to drive stick when I was SEVEN...on my mom's old '74 VW Bug, using blocks, with my Unc' teaching.

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
and to the guy saying a ls/vtec having 250hp, i found this while looking for the dyno charts, this is some guys civic with a b20/b16 head, like an ls/vtec stroked to 2.0 liters:

B20B block, resleeved
B16A head, proper machine work done for VTEC conversion
Endyn/Wiseco 12:1 RollerWave pistons
Eagle rods
B16A cams
RC Engineering 370cc injectors
Mugen clone ECU (to be replaced with Hondata ECU soon)
JDM ITR tranny with factory LSD
ACT clutch - extreme pressure plate, performance street disc
Del Sol VTEC radiator
Place Racing & Energy Suspension engine mounts
K&N Filtercharger intake
DC ceramic coated 4-1 header
Greddy Evolution exhaust
As for power, Phillip at Intercrew is estimating at least 215hp/150lbft at the wheels.

I apologize...the hybrid Honda engine I was referring to was a b20, with a b16 head ( I knew I shoulda made sure I had the issue to back me up!)...the 215HP at the wheels...considering 15% in drivetrain losses, equates to about 250HP at the crank. The LS-VTEC conversion averages about 220HP at the crank, which would give a 2600LB EX it powers 11.818LBS per HP, again, not counting her alleged weight reductions. Not bad, considering a 3180LB 1995 M3 coupe has 13.25LBS to carry per HP.

Originally posted by kidrocket
if im on the highway why wouldnt i downshift into a gear that i would already be in the power band? why would i go from 5th to 4th if im doing like 50?

kidrocket, I refer you above, where I talk about gearing multiplying a car's TQ...the lower the gear, the more TQ actually goes to the wheels...regardless of where you are in the powerband. Why do you think you can't take-off in 5th gear?

Originally posted by Self
A 250 hp Civic smoking an SS? I think not. Like he said, torque and traction both play huge parts in the race, as well as the powerband of an SS being much stronger than that of the civic. I'm pretty sure the SS would pull a victory out against the Civic. Also, what's this about the automatic in an SS not being able to downshift?? As Blackbird can attest, the A4 tranny in an LS1 is able to downshift too a lower gear than the M6 from redline at almost every gear.

A 250HP Civic CAN smoke an SS...if it's light enough. just like, I repeat, a 170HP Hayabusa can smoke a 450HP Viper. Hell, the drag-only 250+HP all-motor Hondas run 11's consistently...add a couple-hundred pounds of street-cruising comfort items, you might have a 13's-on-street-tires, 12's-on-drags car...if you knew how to drive it. You're pretty sure the SS would pull the victory? have you ever driven a 250HP Civic? I know you've driven SS's and stuff like that...just like I've driven my dad's old big-block powered Cutlass. I repeat, you just have to have been there.

Here's a conservative estimate on my old engine:
168=stock HP (remember, it was a JDM engine from an SiRII)
+5=intake
+10=headers, re-pipe, hi-flow cat
+15=ECU, optimized fuel/timing maps, raised VTEC-switch-over/raised RPM.

Total...a possible 198HP at the crank on a 2600LB car, which gives it 13.13LBS per HP, possibly.

I said "the auto doesn't have the benefit of an instant 2-gear (or three, depending on redline) downshift". I didn't say: "the automatic can't downshift". To downshift an auto, you stomp on the gas, make the ECU realize you are looking for SERIOUS acceleration, therefore dropping it a gear. To downshift a manual: select 1-2(-3)gears down, mash on gas before/during/after downshift...your choice, whatever optimizes your mid-to-top-end acceleration. Why doesn't NASCAR, the most American of racing venues, use the most american form of driving, autos? I use NASCAR as an example because it has long straightaways that emulate a freeway race better (also, somebody might complain if I'd used LeMans, which has a 3-mile long straightaway).

Whew.

thats what i was trying to say. i just didnt do that great of a job. i guessi just messed that up. I was saying itd be stupid to downshift into 4th gear if your doin like 40 mph. But itd be kinda hard for me in my car to drop into 2nd at 80 mph.

a motor that can rev to 10,000 rpm and a standard ls/vtec conversion are 2 completely different things. what youre saying, while impressive, is irrelevent to this conversation. the point is that, this girls ls/vtec, even if it made 250 hp to the wheels, will not outrun a stock camaro ss. while your car may be able to downshift to 2nd at 80, hers cant. even with her weight reductions i seriously doubt she has removed enough weight to compensate for the low point in her powerband. your car can compensate for that, because while it may still have that low point, youll never rev down enough to get to it. but hers will.

Everytime I've ever posted a street-racing story, I always include all pertinent, even technical information...when I shifted, what RPM's I went up to, what the car looked like in my rearview;) , etc., etc...instead of just saying: "I spanked a mustang!".

In the current mindset of things, small motors are the underdog, which forces an explanation of anything outside of the "ordinary" (i.e., beating a V8). Just like Columbus trying to explain why the world wasn't flat...

...too bad I don't have the Queen of Spain to back me up.

Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
wassup dmc.....where in long beach are u at?.......that's a sweet looking car.....i don't know if you drive it around but i've never seen a car like that around......i don't know if it's your car but if it is......it's pretty tight.....do you have any mods on it?......i don't know much about that car except that it's from back to the future......:D........

Whassap mybrotha? The car is located two hours north of LB. Its stored at old man's house... that is why you don't see it down here. But just wait, because as soon as I find a cheap storage garage for it I'll be cruising here more.

The car has reduced weight, a wing, scoops to help with airflow & handling (not just for looks), and one bad-ass paint job. Actually, I'm changing the paint this weekend. It will be a little different. I will post pics when I get em. Check out the DeLorean section for more info on the car!

Originally posted by DMC12


Whassap mybrotha? The car is located two hours north of LB. Its stored at old man's house... that is why you don't see it down here. But just wait, because as soon as I find a cheap storage garage for it I'll be cruising here more.

the car!

You can store it my house...:D .....no charge.....and the it may seem as if the mileage is going up......but that would just be your imagination.......:rolleyes:

deloreans are cool...



ever thought about building little mock fairings over the rear to resemble the back to the future car?



sorry im sure u get asked that all the time :rolleyes:

i just added two mods to my civic

1. the flux capacitor

2. Mr. fusion

now my car can fly

guys she never even said what kind of rx7 it was... my friend has a late 80's rx7 non turbo(im guessing 87-88) and i raced him in my 88 accord lxi and i had 2 people in my car and heavy wheels and i got a car length on him, with both have automatics also.....

she said it had a turbo .....

*smack*

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
I Only use race gas...VP Race Fuels 108 Octane!!

i just noticed this... if this girl is still here i would like to know WHY u only use 108 octane gas? that seems WAY overkill for your mods, u should be fine on 93 octane? do u just like the smell???

would the 108 be too heavy (too much lead) for your civic to idle smoothly on? not to mention isnt leaded fuel illegal for street use?

Not to mention 108 octane has got to be expensive to run daily. Anyone notice how she disappeared after she said she got her stuff scanned?

goob job guys, u totally blew her off without letting her show the proof.... shame shame shame.

joyride she just kinda disappeared. were still waiting for the proof. its been a month or so now

yeah i know....she could been a hottie and u guys scared her away :(
dang

she isn't coming back


:D o well

Originally posted by jOYRiDe
maybe your a hottie and they wanted u to win... any pics? :D

lol

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
How many of you attempting to respond to me have actually owned and DRIVEN a high-performance/NA/extended RPM's/DOHC-VTEC-powered car?

My last car was a 1990 Acura Integra GS which weighed in at about 2600LBS. I had a 5million series b16 with the optional LSD equipped, and the taller (relative to high-RPM Honda's) gearing that 5million series engines enjoy. It had an effective redline of 10000RPM's, of which I usually used it only up to 9500. I can get up to 88mph in SECOND GEAR at the fuel cut-off point...which means I can downshift to second gear when starting a freeway race at about 70. I DO NOT recommend this practice in any way, especially sinc this eventually led to my engine giving out in a oil-smoke, embarrassing fashion. BTW, my VTEC-switch point was at 6200RPM's. the car's top speed was about 155-160MPH, as determined by my friend in a Yamaha YZF-R I was chasing on the freeway...I also had I/H/E...with the "E" being a full repipe from header on down, and obviously a modified ECU.

Whew.

In response to your claim of going 160 miles, I was wondering about a few things. Tell me what kind of an ecu are you running? ITR? if not what ecu then? Also I have a 5 million b16a jdm version 2nd generation with a Y21 tranny. My car tacks out at 130. With the LSD, it might give better shifts but what's up with the bs long gears you claim to have? What gears? How can you talk stupid shit like you hit 160 miles per hour. Even with lsd, ecu whatever and header exhaust and intake...that 160 is total bullshit. Unless your motor is fully built from ground up, which i doubt. With the modifications you entered, that is total bullshit. Please reply and tell me your dellusional fantasies of going 160. HAHA. All bullshit. You know what stop posting bs.

that has to be total bullshit its hard enough to hit 140 nm fucking 160 and if you can do 160 how come its so much harder to get to 170 ie that Vortect Civic that did that speed challenge i have no idea how fast it went but that wasn't as fast as top fuels Drag civic

the n/a one averaged about 155 or something and the blown one hit 187........you're telling me you hit 160 in a n/a car with MILD modifications?........the n/a has the record for it's class which is almost stock.......sorry to burst your bubble, but don't go around bullshitting......

Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii


In response to your claim of going 160 miles, I was wondering about a few things. Tell me what kind of an ecu are you running? ITR? if not what ecu then? Also I have a 5 million b16a jdm version 2nd generation with a Y21 tranny. My car tacks out at 130. With the LSD, it might give better shifts but what's up with the bs long gears you claim to have? What gears? How can you talk stupid shit like you hit 160 miles per hour. Even with lsd, ecu whatever and header exhaust and intake...that 160 is total bullshit. Unless your motor is fully built from ground up, which i doubt. With the modifications you entered, that is total bullshit. Please reply and tell me your dellusional fantasies of going 160. HAHA. All bullshit. You know what stop posting bs.

Sure...bullshit..

One of my many proofs that my speedo is accurate is when I top-end raced this 1999-2000 Civic Si (like I said before, and I'll say again, I drive almost 100miles to-from work everyday, mostly freeway, I have a LOT of chances to test out any of my vehicles top-speed...if you want, call 623-386-6160...ask them how far from the city the institution is). I basically paced him (the Si) until he topped out (basically couldn't go any faster) at 130mph. At this point, I handily passed him at 140mph at 7500 rpm. Now, compare that to my redline of 10000RPMs and realize that I had 2500 more RPM's to go. My ECU is a custom program from Hasport of Phoenix, AZ. Look at the recent SportCompactCar issues involving B-series swaps. Look at the company that SCC always call on for Honda expertise.

Anyways, Hasport has always told me that Honda speedos have always been somewhat innaccurate when it come to these high speeds that these cars were never meant to go. My top-speed claim stems from my co-worker in a YZF Yamaha who I was pacing...his speedo reads accurately till 180mph, though his actual top-speed is only about 170+. He told me the day after we had a top-speed chase with each other (again, to clarify...he stayed in top-gear and never downshifted, allowing me to keep pace behind him), that he was at 160+ before he actually started pulling away from me, which leads me to the conclusion that I at least kept up with him up to/close to that speed. I had another co-worker in the car with me...do you want me to ask him to send you an affidavit to prove how fast we were going? My buddy in the bike...should I have him post on here? This is what happened, and those are the facts...if you don't believe me, I don't care.

As for the gearing thing:http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16608&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

241kph=137mph@8100RPM...top-speed for a stock SirII Civic (without the governor, of course) with the Y1 gearing...which I had. You should have at least that with your YS1 gearing. Imagine again, 10000RPM...

It's not, I repeat, it's NOT my fault that your engine is underachieveing.:flipa:

Hey...check some facts before you open your mouth.

Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
the n/a one averaged about 155 or something and the blown one hit 187........you're telling me you hit 160 in a n/a car with MILD modifications?........the n/a has the record for it's class which is almost stock.......sorry to burst your bubble, but don't go around bullshitting......

The 155mph one used the stock Si gearing...now think about that. The Y1 has taller gearing. Also, they only have a limited amount of miles to reach top speed before they have to slow down, not the 10 or so I had.

for your stupid ass lies shut the fuck up. With integra body with no weight reduction and HAsport ecu....haha bitch. I threw a jdm b16a in a hatchback. Which is lighter than your integra body. Also with the Y1 tranny and few modifications...you are the one that is fucken dreamen of punching it to 160 mph. I have dc 4 to 1 headers and aem intake with an exhaust. I am running about 14.8. That is on the real. Sure I smoke Si's all day and gsr's. Why don't you try racing a type r you fuck. You would lose. You think with a modified ecu and little in and out modifications( meaning intake, heads, exhaust) you can kick out 200+ horsepower. HAHA you are funny. HAsport ecu ooh big fucken deal. Bring your shit down here to Cali. You would get smoked. Kick the real shit and stop bsin. :finger: :flipa:

Kick the real shit stupid ass....You keep dreamin stupid hick.

Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
for your stupid ass lies shut the fuck up....HAsport ecu ooh big fucken deal. Bring your shit down here to Cali....You would get smoked. Kick the real shit and stop bsin. :finger: :flipa:

Kick the real shit stupid ass....You keep dreamin stupid hick.

I hit you with facts and this is what you come back with?

Oh, BTW, I got ahold of an actual conversion calc (I was calculating from off-top of my head before) and here's the ACTUAL top-speed at 8100RPMs of the stock SIRII with the Y1/YS1 tranny:

241KPH=149.7MPH, or make that 150MPH rounded-off. Also, a couple of hundred pounds weight difference between your hatch and my 1990 Teg does NOT matter when you are talking about speeds above 140MPH. Think about this: Have you ever seen a 2nd Gen Teg and a Civ hatchback lowered the same height and sitting side-by-side? Try it and look who's lower...it's called AERODYNAMICS. Besides, you probably have one of those stupid hatch-wings anyway...NEWSFLASH...those cause drag.

Also, I AM FROM CALI BITCH. Sorry, mods...that was my one concession to immaturity.

One last thing...I never have ran my car on a timed track, but did beat a hooked-up 2000 Eclipse GT that ran a 14.7 at the track. He was a pretty consistent driver and we ran back-to-back with similar results...I beat him by a carlength (definition: his front bumper was at my back bumper).

Again dude, I am not, I repeat, am NOT responsible for your underachieveing engine...or you feeling that your dick's shorter than mine...:rolleyes:.

Here's the lowdown on the old Teg:

White 1990 Acura Integra GS

Stock outside, with exception of color-matched molding and JDM one-piece headlights with Hyper-White bulbs.

JDM b16 engine with the optional LSD included with the Y1 tranny.

Weapon-R intake

Nology Hotwires

Bosch Platinum+4's

Comptech 4-into-1 headers

repipe from headers to the super-hi-flow cat (if you can still call it a cat...it had no screens), all the way to the Weapon-R universal muffler.

Hasport custom ECU, with raised RPMs and VTEC switch-off.

Stock steel wheels painted black from a Civic (believe it or not, the steelies are a LOT lighter than most street-rims, with exception the race-ready JDM 15-inch lightweights...i.e., Mugen and Volks).

Minus 2 degrees ignition timing (recommended by the ECUs programmer)

MobilOne synthetic oil

Good and regular maintenance/tune-up

Octane boost (108 octane) every 2-3 fill-ups.

go get your car dyno'ed and bring the results back it'll tell you top speed max horse power

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
go get your car dyno'ed and bring the results back it'll tell you top speed max horse power

Sorry, can't do it...if you read my other post, you'll understand why...

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Sorry, can't do it...if you read my other post, you'll understand why...

you posted too much just write it outright already....

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


you posted too much just write it outright already....

Simple...the stock internals couldn't take the constant high-RPM thrashing and one day it went BOOM!

o ok :D

omg i sooooo call BS you drive a frigin civic those are slowest cars made by honda other than the insight. even with new rods and race gas and all that other BS your still only pushing around 170hp. i beat lightly modded civics all the time in my accord and my accord is slow as hell. that says a lot about civics there. an SS has about 340hp and a tt rx-7 has around 260 hp. thats why i hate almost all civic drivers, cause they think they have the fastest cars on the road. but some of them realize their cars are slow and accept that. i even think accords are slow. a civic is an economy car!! and an accord is a family car!!

Originally posted by brads94accord
omg i sooooo call BS you drive a frigin civic those are slowest cars made by honda other than the insight. even with new rods and race gas and all that other BS your still only pushing around 170hp. i beat lightly modded civics all the time in my accord and my accord is slow as hell. that says a lot about civics there. an SS has about 340hp and a tt rx-7 has around 260 hp. thats why i hate almost all civic drivers, cause they think they have the fastest cars on the road. but some of them realize their cars are slow and accept that. i even think accords are slow. a civic is an economy car!! and an accord is a family car!!

This is what Midol is for...

You'd think a freakin' Civic killed his pet or sumthin...

ill bet i could take your accord. wanna put some money on it?

Originally posted by kidrocket
ill bet i could take your accord. wanna put some money on it?

I hate to add to this madness.(No I dont!) :devil:

But, Brad, you're being ridiculous with this whole "death to Civics" thing. There are fast Civics out there. In fact, SCC just had an article about a Civic that hits 185.

And, based on kidrocket's mod list, he could beat your accord

sorry

this thread is a sticky some one make it that i wanna see the girls time slips still

i never said that i could beat him. i never wanted to start a race or anything. my accord is slow. i'll admit there are some fast civics, but the majority of them are slow as hell and the people that drive them(the slow civics) think that the cars are fast. but what i was getting at is the whole thing about racing a tt rx-7 and an ss camaro is BS. a kid in my chem class says his 97 civic dx 4 door with (these are the exact words out of his mouth) "forced cold air induction system" and "motec system exhaust" ran an 11 in the quarter mile the other night, and a 14 last night. i just laughed and walked away, knowing that motec makes engine managment system and doesn't make exhaust. people like that are the ones i hate. but the folks that actually know what they are doing and do the right mods to their car for the most power gains are the people i am cool with.

obtw i am talking about the people in thei dx,lx, and ex civics. i am cool with si's and the people with si and teggy motor swaps.

Well, I understand you point a little better now. Some people in slow Civics do think theyre fast. But the way you were talking before made it sound like you think ALL civics are slow and CAN'T be fast.

BTW, smack that kid in your chem class for me. I'm sure you wanted to when he said it. Any driver who goes to the track one day and runs 11's then goes the next day to run 14's needs to be taking his Motec exhaust, Jackson Racing Turbocharger, Wings West CAI, and AEM racing slicks back to Pep Boys.:flipa:

clarity is good when it comes to making an arguement think about that before you post again

and yes dx engines suck

i got no beef brad, not like my mod list is extensive or anything lol

Originally posted by brads94accord
a kid in my chem class says his 97 civic dx 4 door with (these are the exact words out of his mouth) "forced cold air induction system" and "motec system exhaust" ran an 11 in the quarter mile the other night, and a 14 last night.

They probly said something about a "motec system exhaust" in The fast N the furious....

Originally posted by MadDog06


They probly said something about a "motec system exhaust" in The fast N the furious.... yeah, i was like youve been watching fast and the furious too much. motec doesn't make exhuast, they make engine management systems for race cars. he didn't even know what an engine management system is, then he tells me, im a momma's boy, my mom bought my car, rims, "forced cold air induction system", and motec exhaust, and the "cobra eye" lights. i was like well i work for all of my mods, and the ones i do, i research on and get the ones that would boost my power the best. oh yeah he says the drag strip he races at is called "speed zone" he said they made it from measuring a quarter mile on some back road in the boonies, and they use a stop watch. he also says hes getting "an 8 pound turbo" in a few weeks. i told him to come to one of our meets this weekend and we're all gonna roast on him, and show him whats up.

Originally posted by brads94accord
he also says hes getting "an 8 pound turbo" in a few weeks.

NIIICE...:rolleyes: :hehe: :hehehe:

??? I don't know if you guys gave up or what not, but I back up carrrnut on what he said about the whole MPH thing. My friend has a 1996 Integra GS-R, really mint condition. He let me run it against this IROC-Z. I beat the IROC Z by a car length, and I know for a FACT, we hit 155, because we raced all the way into the GSR's middle fifth gear. I remember looking at the speedo, it goes up to 145 or 150 I think. It just says 140 and it has markers after that, and it maxed it out and I went for like ten seconds passed maxing it out. I talked to the guy in the IROC and he said he was about to hit 160 and he just flashed me with the high beams because the race was over at like 85, but he didn't want to lose.
Oh and on LS-Vtec... Dude if that girl has a hatch back, then hell yeah it's possible she beat an SS. Let me tell you something. Drag racing is different from any type of form of street racing. Drag racing, you NEED rwd torque to get off the line because of the strip, but on street there's pavement, or gravel, and both cars have a fair shot. Now my friend has a 95' Camaro Z28, it's 5 speed, I don't think they had the 6 speed's yet... And he got his ass handed to him by a hatchback with a GSR motor. I'm talking about getting smoked BAD. And the GSR was stock. An SS is only about half a second, maybe less, faster than a Z28. The Z28 pulls in 13.9 and the SS pulls in 13.5. That GSR hatch had to have at least a second or more off the Z28's. And I know for a fact LSVtecs can pull more hp than a GSR because of the midrange hp and the high rpm horsepower of Vtec. All it is is an LS motor, which has really good midrange hp that get's good high rpm horsepower because of the valve timing of a vtec head. The main reason LS motors are sorry in high rpm is because they don't have vtec so their valves don't open up more. So it is HIGHLY possible that she gave that Camaro SS the sleep. And I wouldn't LET a girl beat me if she was cute. I'd beat her. A girl isn't going to give you the light of day if you LET her beat you. They don't like giveaways, come on, I thought you guys knew about women. They like competition, but they like guys that try and don't give them the advantage just because they're hot.

Props on the kill GURLSVTEC, I believe you.
I thought these guys would back you up coz they're from Honda, but I guess not.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Oh, BTW, I got ahold of an actual conversion calc (I was calculating from off-top of my head before) and here's the ACTUAL top-speed at 8100RPMs of the stock SIRII with the Y1/YS1 tranny:241KPH=149.7MPH,
im not flaming u or anything carnuttt cos u one cool bloke, but my brother has a JDM B16A SiR-II from an EG6 (or 9 i cant remember) hatch and he has claimed to only get it up to 185km/h cos of the rev limiter (it red lines at 8250rpm all the way to nine thousand and something)
go here to see the EG gauge cluster www.picturetrail.com and type in xtatik as the member name. look for the car pics.

*edit* i forgot to mention he's got LSD too

Originally posted by S2Corolla
[Bthe SS pulls in 13.5. That GSR hatch had to have at least a second or more off the Z28's. And I know for a fact LSVtecs can pull more hp than a GSR because of the midrange hp and the high rpm horsepower of Vtec.[/B]

ss's have hit 12's stock. and a gsr motor is a vtec.

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


ss's have hit 12's stock. and a gsr motor is a vtec.

Stock is misleading...That's with new tires, a PERFECT launch, PERFECT shifting, and PERFECT weather and track conditions. A much more common SS time is 13.3 - 13.6. Either way, they're darn fast. Also, I an LS-VTEC is an LS motor with either a GSR or Type R(or I've also heard of SI) head, giving it VTEC. I didn't think they typically made more horsepower than GSRs though. I thought that they would make about the same amount of hp as GSRs but with the increased torque of the LS motor.

Originally posted by jOYRiDe

im not flaming u or anything carnuttt cos u one cool bloke, but my brother has a JDM B16A SiR-II from an EG6 (or 9 i cant remember) hatch and he has claimed to only get it up to 185km/h cos of the rev limiter (it red lines at 8250rpm all the way to nine thousand and something)
go here to see the EG gauge cluster www.picturetrail.com and type in xtatik as the member name. look for the car pics.

*edit* i forgot to mention he's got LSD too

Nah, don't worry about it. I know where you're coming from. Think of this though, Japan (where by law, cars are governed to about 115MPH) or not, how long do you think that governor is gonna stay on a real enthusiasts' car? I know my old governor on my JDM b16 lasted all of 2 weeks before I had to do something about it:D.

Self: The LS/VTECs usually add more HP. The added displacement does that, besides add TQ. Also, anybody who cares enough to spend the money for the conversion doesn't usually leave the internals alone. Most mechanics suggest/install beefed up internals while the engine is opened up.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Nah, don't worry about it. I know where you're coming from. Think of this though, Japan (where by law, cars are governed to about 115MPH) or not, how long do you think that governor is gonna stay on a real enthusiasts' car? I know my old governor on my JDM b16 lasted all of 2 weeks before I had to do something about it:D.

i know what u mean, 180km/h limit sux big time :thumbdown

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


hey hey i got a japanese video with a stock integra it has a 14.5 second quater mile

That's because the JDM ITR has 220 HP, not the 195 over in US. ;)

Originally posted by VieTxRiceRocket


That's because the JDM ITR has 220 HP, not the 195 over in US. ;)

I believe its 200-210...definatley not 220 man.:)

Damn... 14.5? That's crazy. That's big dog v8 territory. And the Type R has godlike suspension.

Originally posted by mellowboy


I believe its 200-210...definatley not 220 man.:)
i thought it was 220hp, just like the jdm type-s lude

RX7 didnt have enough stickers on dude , my 87 ford tempo twin vtech 7 cam monster spanks rx7s all da time i shift from like 1rst to 5th power skip shift and there like gone..... its all in the 4 foot wing baby .....the rx7 probably didnt know you were trying to race him or he was playing with you i do that every once and awhile when my #5 vtec cam acts up on me



Just playin
mike

Originally posted by jOYRiDe

i thought it was 220hp, just like the jdm type-s lude

Yeh but a type s is a whole different motor?:)

yeah the type-s is the h22a. i think it has the same hp output but more torque (obviously) than the type-r

Originally posted by jOYRiDe
yeah the type-s is the h22a. i think it has the same hp output but more torque (obviously) than the type-r

The Prelude Type-S has the same engine as the European Accord-R. It's an h22 with a 220HP output. The JDM Integra Type-R is rated at 205HP. The 10HP difference with the USDM R engine is attributed to the higher compression used by JDM engines, and the higher octane gas they burn everyday.

Oh, torque is rated at about 168FT-LBS with the 'Lude-S h22, and the JDM 'Teg-R b18 is rated at 137TQ.

SS's have pulled high 12s on stock tires too

Originally posted by kidrocket
SS's have pulled high 12s on stock tires too

Never heard of or seen it, so I'm still very skeptical. In fact, up above when I said an LS1 had hit high twelves, I wasn't speaking of the SS, I actually meant the WS6(Firebird TA). For some reason, they're historically faster than their Chevy counterpart, the SS.

Originally posted by Self


Never heard of or seen it, so I'm still very skeptical. In fact, up above when I said an LS1 had hit high twelves, I wasn't speaking of the SS, I actually meant the WS6(Firebird TA). For some reason, they're historically faster than their Chevy counterpart, the SS.

It's because of the WS6's fully-functional and very effective ram-air system. The ram-air almost acts like forced induction at higher speeds.

I'm BAAAAAAACK!! Didn't think u'd hear from me again huh??:D
Anyway...i just got back from my little trip to JAPAN!!!:sun:
and boy oh boy was it an experence of a lifetime!!!!! I freaken got to drive a right hand drive civ!!! It was soooo tight but it just didn't feel right....it was kinda cool though.....and We hit up these races at the AFB in okinawa....now that was someshit!! well...i got some new shit for my ride...and i'll be taking it to my friend OSHIMO for a dyno tune sometime soon....and I just talked to this guy VERBOOM from another forum and he said hed help me post all my info....so rightnow i got the pictures....this Friday i'll have new and improved timeslips...Oh...if any of you are in the area...we're rollin down to Palmdale - LACR this Friday..so if u wanna see my bad boy live and in action...comeon down!!!!:D So i'll have those slips for u guys......and next week willbe my dyno shit.....i'm hoping for at least 215hp at the wheels now...but we'll see......i'll keep u guys posted....Oh MAD PROPS to everyone who had my back....I don't seewhy u wouldn't want a honda to win anyway since u guys are all HONDA! Oh well............PEACE OUT

damn...ididn't think that picture would come out poster size??:confused:
and why thehell did it post twice?? I'm never gonna figure this thing out!

um what happened to the time slips i wanna see them i can't even remember what it was about but i know you owe the whole forum times slips :bandit:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
damn...ididn't think that picture would come out poster size??:confused:
and why thehell did it post twice?? I'm never gonna figure this thing out!

I was wondering what your mods were? Maybe you posted them sometime before, but I'm not about to search through 9 pages of nonsense looking for it! Please post all your mods and what kind of car you have again, please.

i see a cold air intake, a strut tower bar, a red valve cover (which could be painted that way or ordered from a magazine), and a removed heat shield. :rolleyes: most of your claimed engine work was internal so that pic doesnt prove anything. give us timeslips or dyno sheets.

Actually I see everything she said she had save of course the internal work. A 5th gen civic with a DOHC swap, the heat shield is removed because the JDM headers (which are pictured) don't have the holes for the heat shield to be bolted up to and I also see a FPR. Admit it ppl, she's packin.

My guess is B16 but I really don't get the aftermarket mounts.

ahh i missed the regulator tucked back in there but now i see it, and stupid me i didnt even think about civics that year model not coming dohc. i was thinking the new si is dohc so the 92-95 si's were too for some reason. :rolleyes: i guess it is all there that should be there.

i still dont see it beating an rx7 or ss, not in any type of fair race, and i still dont see the reason for 108 octane gas though.

108 seems a bit silly when you only got 210hp

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
108 seems a bit silly when you only got 210hp

Well, the JDM TypeR has slightly less than that, and it runs on 108-octane...available in Japanese gas pumps. This is why JDM engines can run higher compressions. Maybe HER car is running high compression?

SHEESH! U GUYS CRACK ME UP!:p

INTERNALS:

-O/S CTR Pistons for 12:1 compression ratio for 0.25 bore
-Eagle Rods
-Type-R Rings
-Type-R 4-1 headers (as seen in picture) 2 & 1/2 inch piping all the
way out through the muffler
-CTR Cams
-68mm Throttle by Erick's Racing
-ultraflow exhaust
-Type-R intake manifold
-Crower Valve springs/retainers
-advanced timing (3 degrees)
*Oh and uh..i just replaced my hondata with a Motec system....so i have a hondata for sale as well as a V-tec controller (Apex). If ur interested hit me up!

uh...i have to run c12 race fuel because i have high compression...without it my car wouldn't perform at its best....and plus...everytime i start her up...she'll knock...she doesn't like that!!

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
SHEESH! U GUYS CRACK ME UP!:p

INTERNALS:

-O/S CTR Pistons for 12:1 compression ratio for 0.25 bore
-Eagle Rods
-Type-R Rings
-Type-R 4-1 headers (as seen in picture) 2 & 1/2 inch piping all the
way out through the muffler
-CTR Cams
-68mm Throttle by Erick's Racing
-ultraflow exhaust
-Type-R intake manifold
-Crower Valve springs/retainers
-advanced timing (3 degrees)
*Oh and uh..i just replaced my hondata with a Motec system....so i have a hondata for sale as well as a V-tec controller (Apex). If ur interested hit me up!

uh...i have to run c12 race fuel because i have high compression...without it my car wouldn't perform at its best....and plus...everytime i start her up...she'll knock...she doesn't like that!!

Will you marry me:D?

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Will you marry me:D?

If ur cute and your car is faster than mine.....
It's wedding bells for u!!!!:D

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Well, the JDM TypeR has slightly less than that, and it runs on 108-octane...available in Japanese gas pumps. This is why JDM engines can run higher compressions. Maybe HER car is running high compression?

well done she does apparently have high compression

have a chocolate chip cookie

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/262827Mvc-300l.jpg

oh...and did i mention i have slicks too?:rolleyes:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/262827Mvc-300l.jpg

oh...and did i mention i have slicks too?:rolleyes:

and if u look close enough...u can see me taking the picture!!:D

Well that was great way to end a 10 page discussion on whether or not a total stranger on a web board was lying or not. Why not get some whole car shots? And of course full body shots to please those less interested in your car. :eek:

GURLSVTEC's sig:


U know what I have to say: If u Ain't Breakin' Parts, Ur Car ain't fast Enuf!


This is why I asked to marry her:D...she's got the right attitude:flash:. Anybody know the Kubo tandem:D?

We could make sweet engine notes together girl;):devil:.

(sorry, testosterone overload)

*whiplash*

Down Boy!! :D

Why would you put it into 5th? that's an OD gear

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
Well that was great way to end a 10 page discussion on whether or not a total stranger on a web board was lying or not. Why not get some whole car shots? And of course full body shots to please those less interested in your car. :eek:

i cant believe it actually lasted 10 pages. i figured it would have just ended back when we thought we had her caught. but then here she comes 10 pages later proving us wrong and all.

i broke 1000 dollars worth of electrics on ma volvo ? does that count :D

its faster now ..... about 40hp faster its a noticable difference :bigfuckinggrin:


erm yea full body shots ......... that includes you

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


This is why I asked to marry her:D...she's got the right attitude:flash:. Anybody know the Kubo tandem:D?

We could make sweet engine notes together girl;):devil:.

(sorry, testosterone overload)

haha!:D that is sooo funny! That testosterone always gets to u guys huh??

If you want to see some whole car shots...check out my profile! But that thing about whole body shots?:confused:
You're gonna have to try harder than that!!!!!:angel:

try i'm not gonna try

has you car got some kind of paint flip it looks so cool!!

can it turn tho? since it has drags on .

Top Fuels 550hp civic pulls 9s or something and that has race slicks not drags

YA IT CAN TURN IF YOU HAVE SPACERS W/ THE LONG STUDS....BUT BEFORE I GOT EM...IT WOULDN'T EVEN ROLL BACK OR FORWARD!!
ANYWAY!! I'LL CHECK OUT THOSE FORUMS NSX-R!

Hey Gurls, just out of curiosity, what octane is C12 ?
It's not 112 Octane is it?
If so, I'm sure you can get away with running a little less octane, unless you plan to spray or boost the car.
With my 11:1 compression, I can still get away with running 93 octane and I get no KR or pinging.

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC


If ur cute and your car is faster than mine.....
It's wedding bells for u!!!!:D

Gimme three months.... haha

Oh while all you ppl check this board...
Is it true that you can lower your compression ratio by one point by using a thicker head gasket or something like that? I wanna run turbo on a GSR motor, but I don't want to get forged pistons to lower the compression ratio because later on i might take the turbo off and go all motor.
I don't have the GSR motor YET, but when I do put the car in the shop I'm gonna want to do some stuff to the motor while it's being prepped.

Originally posted by Blackbird01
Hey Gurls, just out of curiosity, what octane is C12 ?
It's not 112 Octane is it?
If so, I'm sure you can get away with running a little less octane, unless you plan to spray or boost the car.
With my 11:1 compression, I can still get away with running 93 octane and I get no KR or pinging.

C12 is 108 octane....C14 is 112. Hey good luck with your buildup!!
Sounds like it's gonna be a fast one!!!:D

Originally posted by S2Corolla


Gimme three months.... haha

Oh while all you ppl check this board...
Is it true that you can lower your compression ratio by one point by using a thicker head gasket or something like that? I wanna run turbo on a GSR motor, but I don't want to get forged pistons to lower the compression ratio because later on i might take the turbo off and go all motor.
I don't have the GSR motor YET, but when I do put the car in the shop I'm gonna want to do some stuff to the motor while it's being prepped.

Yah...I used to use 2 head gaskets and my compression was 11:1...it worked fine with 93 octane...didn't have any problems....u might want to try that!! Good luck with your GSR!! that's totally gonna be my next motor!!:D

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC


C12 is 108 octane....C14 is 112. Hey good luck with your buildup!!
Sounds like it's gonna be a fast one!!!:D


his car is already fast he was asking if you're gonna boost YOUR CAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K



his car is already fast he was asking if you're gonna boost YOUR CAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OOOPS! I KNOW I MADE A MISTAKE....It was that other guy building a GSR...and no i'm not gonna boost for nothing!!!:D

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC


OOOPS! I KNOW I MADE A MISTAKE....It was that other guy building a GSR...and no i'm not gonna boost for nothing!!!:D


boost your skirt :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
[B]


boost your skirt

Only in your dreams!!:rolleyes: Ay! and where's my TOFU!!!!:mad:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
[B]


boost your skirt

Only in your dreams!!:rolleyes: Ay! and where's my TOFU!!!!:mad:

dreams become reality when the tofu man steps thru your door :bandit:

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


dreams become reality when the tofu man steps thru your door :bandit:

Well them come on over and deliver that Tofu Aight??;)

where are you then? cuz it still takes a while even if i can drift

B18C1-5's dont knock because they have a knock sensor that increases fuel output and retards ignition timing thru the ckp sensor.

my H22A is boosted and on the edge of detonation, but doesnt knock no matter what i put in it... but the knock sensor downgrades power accordingly.

Yeah, well my lumina has an SiR badge from PepBoys, beat that! That's at least 250 hp added to the stock engine...which means I now have 300 hp. GO ME!!

your lumina cant hang wit the 7 cam tempo (3 vetch) dont make me bust out the vr4 sticker ....

Hey what are the honda guys(and gals) doing for cv axels ? i heard you all were going thru them like crazy at one point , snapping them off at the spindle and stuff ...just curious



Mike
pushing the a/c button for 5 HP

I've raced a yello RX-7... and a Supra TT with like a 70 year old lady at the wheel. I of course lost even before the race began but it was cool.

The supra wasn't stock either.. I could see it's exhaust and nice 18" or so rims. Crazy Grannies!!! :bloated: :D

a granny in a supra??? crazy man

nice location.....

But u know how freeway races are...they aren't always fair...there's all sorts of cars that get in the way...
Anyway...u wanna know what i have in my civ?

I have a 68mm Throttle body built by Erick's Racing, Type-R Headers-Exhaust (& Suspension ;) ), Del Sol Tranny, Type-R Rods & Pistons (CTR), and a vtec controller. I Only use race gas...VP Race Fuels 108 Octane!! High Compression wastes a gang of gas!..But u have to keep in mind the weight reduction in my car...the camaro was waaay heavier...and plus he had another person in there....:p i'm tellin u every little thing counts!!!

Man....you're hot.....a chick who knows her stuff about cars.....I thought this was only a myth....lol j/k......but for realz....forget posting pics of your car post......some pics of yourself......

So what engine are you running....probably the b16a3 right......if you have a del sol...but you didn't specify it so let me know......oh yeah....do you live anywhere near Corona, Ca....I've been wanting to race a girl for days.....like the fast & the furious.....how bout we race for that sweet ass.....lmfao

Oh and if you were wonder what I had if you do want to throw down and race......I don't like to brag (yeah right) so I just listed the basic things that I thought would either give me an advantage or intimate you

You must have gone back soooo far in the street racing forum archives to get this thread

look at the last post date before you....2002!! ive never seen somebody go so far back and post like its original...

close the thread

Priceless. He digs up a dead thread to hit on a chick online. I think that that is the epitome of desperation.

Priceless. He digs up a dead thread to hit on a chick online. I think that that is the epitome of desperation.
:rofl:

Well...you take what you can get, but one can't help aiming just that little bit higher!

This thread is nearly 3 years old. I dont think most of these members still post ;)

i came back just to post in this thread , not every day i get a post notification on a thread 3 years old

Man....you're hot.....a chick who knows her stuff about cars.....I thought this was only a myth....lol j/k......but for realz....forget posting pics of your car post......some pics of yourself......

So what engine are you running....probably the b16a3 right......if you have a del sol...but you didn't specify it so let me know......oh yeah....do you live anywhere near Corona, Ca....I've been wanting to race a girl for days.....like the fast & the furious.....how bout we race for that sweet ass.....lmfao


Good lord...this is just sad. :disappoin

and yet we are all sitting here posting...keeping the thread alive.

Yeah... that's pretty desperate move on assface's part, trying to hit on a chick that was here 3 years ago.


So... good bye thread. Thanks for the quick laugh. :grinno: