what does a non modified h22a run in the 1/4 mile???? and would it be able to burn a 96 Prelude w/ some mods??? There is a kid that lives around me that wants to race me. he has mostly exterior and interior work to his lude, not much on the engine. Intake, exhaust, header, maybe cam work, not totally sure about that but the other stuff hes got. Would i stand a chance with the h22a against him???

it will come to who is better driver.

ok so if he didnt have any mods..... i would be able to burn him with the h22??? and i still need someone to tell me the 1/4 mile time for it also, please.

your car and 96 prelude VTEC about same weight, so that why i said; it will come down who is better driver.
wanna know 1/4ml for prelude, visit -> http://www.car-stats.com/

damn im not ganna be able to wait till the summer. Im going over to Cedar Point Amuesment park with some friends. ill have the h22 in my car by then. its ganna be great. it says it takes 8 hours to get there. ill get there in like 4 - 5 hours.

yo, you got one too, wow havent found someone with a 91 accord in a while. Is the h22a the prelude engine si, soch or doch and/or vtech?

i dont have the engine yet. if i hve the money by the end of the summer ill have it put it. im gettin two jobs over the summer so i should have the money for it. ill tell you what its like at the end of the summer. but im dying for it now. i just keep wasting my money on other things. lol not really my gf keeps saying aww these will look so good on your car you should get them. and i do. damn gf's. but ill def be getting the h22a.

the H22A is out of the prelude VTEC, it is a DOHC VTEC

Some kid at school dropped a Prelude motor (4th gen) into his 95 Accord Coupe and now he is keeping up with a GSR, so its pretty slow...he claims it to be really fast but its all talk. He has fuel rails, intake and exhaust.

wait your saying that the h22 is a slow engine???

when placed into a honda accord yes, and I feel the prelude motor is not very fast in stock form either.

what motor would you prefer for speed in an accord???

something with a little torque, like a v6 =)

my friends built 96 accord is a 13 second car, and that is with the stock engine, no prelude swap and it doesnt have vtec

91 accords are slow as shit. there really isn anything out there that a v6. i mean the other engine was thinking about was the GSR motor. that has 210 hp on it.

lol, I forget how light your car is, doesnt matter, either motor will make your car haul ass.

You have the slim body accord that isnt all bulked up if I am thinking of the right one.

yeah i have one of the lightest accords. i slide all over the place hen its windy out, thats the only bad thing. im drivig down the road and my back end is slidig out from under me. it sucks though. so the h22 would work really well in my accord???

no, I said either motor is fine, a H22 or a B18

The b18c-r is like 5100 and the h22 is 2300 so i'd rather just have the h22.

Yeah, better choice.....where you getting your motor from?

Prolly from here......

http://www.jdm1.com/

I mean i will look around for cheaper but these come with 20 - 30K miles. so thast really good. other come with 30 - 50K on them. so most likely im ganna tick with Jdm1.com. have any other sites that i could check out to find motors???

Ill get back to you with that one, cuz my friend has a crap load of sites with car engines for sale. even skyline motors

Reason for such low mileage is that in Japan you gotta yank your motor like every 5 years and 30k miles....so we get the benefit of being able to buy those motors =)

haha thats great. skyline motors you say.... sweet. i wanna see that site with that one on it. they 4 or 6 cyl??

Trust me, you're not getting a skyline motor in an accord! I'm sure you weren't really thinking of it, but in case you were, just stop now. The GTR motor is a 2.6L I6 TT with RWD.

we own one honda....why would I waste money in a civic, it was for my 300zx because I heard it would fit......do I look dumb?

Your callin me a JACKASS? well blow me because your the idiot who jumped in out of no where and brings up dropping a skyline motor into a Honda which is not even worthy of that motor.

haha no i wasnt thinking of it. it would be nice if i had the money to redo everything and make it a RWD car. but i would never waste the money on it.

Yeah dude, your smart wanting a prelude motor in their, it will sure as hell haul some ass....i say get it if you can afford it and it wont fuck you financially

Take some prozac man, chill out.

Originally posted by JBL85
no, I said either motor is fine, a H22 or a B18

No, the B18 won't have enough torque to get you going. You'll want the H22 in your Accord, even if it is a light one.

True, but I want that b18-r thing redlines at like 9500 RPMS =)

"Reason for such low mileage is that in Japan you gotta yank your motor like every 5 years and 30k miles....so we get the benefit of being able to buy those motors =)"



explain please?

yeah why do they gatta yank there motors after 5 years???

In Japan they got the 30,000 mile law. You cant run a car if the engine has over 30,000miles. It has to do with efficieny, emissions, and environmental shit. So we get engines with really low K. Also here is another site for jdm engines http://www.specjdm.com/motors.html:bandit:

who cares, we benefit over here.....we get shitty cars, at least we can have their used engines =)

haha yeah seriously. I wish they brought the Accord Type-R over here. but its cool i dont mind spending $2500 on used motors with 30,000 K on it when they last forever.

I here they dont last as long.....my friend was going to drop a CTR motor into a hatch, guy said the whole car would only last about 6 years.

Originally posted by JBL85
True, but I want that b18-r thing redlines at like 9500 RPMS =)

Yeah, but you'll be pissed when it doesn't get you off the line. An H22 with some work can rev significantly higher than stock.

True that too....you dont need RPMS to go higher to go faster......consider Torque, H22 is perfect for your car.....unless you weigh less then a GSR.....the H22 is going to have the most power for its price. Also when modifying both those engines...an h22 will have more significant gains in power .

yeah it would be the best choice. i was pretty much 100% sure with that engine because it should just bolt right in w/ no major work done to the car. im just not sure, am i ganna have to strenghen the chasis with the new engine???

Neh, your chassis will be just fine. The engine will give you a good hp/torque increase, but not that much :D

alright cool, sounds good to me

gonna need a prelude chassis......other wise when you shift to second gear on an accord tranny.....the gears are so long that you wont be in VTEC when you go to second gear.......your gonna have to rev back up to it.

BLEH....... TRANNY not CHASSIS

well the h22a does come with the 5-speed transmission. that is the prelude tranny right???

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
91 accords are slow as shit. there really isn anything out there that a v6. i mean the other engine was thinking about was the GSR motor. that has 210 hp on it. a stock gsr motor with 210 hahaha. it only has 170 hp. and an ITR motor only has 190. the h22a is way better cause it has more torque.

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
well the h22a does come with the 5-speed transmission. that is the prelude tranny right???

That is correct, if you get the manual version. You can get it in an auto also, but I wouldn't recommend it.

whos all done the h22 swap whats the driving like with all that extra curb weight?

oh i have auto now and i completely hate it. im def. going manual with the engine swap.

that integra motor is a JDM version so it does have 210.....and thats just HP not torque, probably still only has 128 toruqe in it

Originally posted by mhx
whos all done the h22 swap whats the driving like with all that extra curb weight?

I don't have it, but the extra weight does throw off the suspension. If you want a better handling car, you'll need to re-work the suspension.

yeah but guys who do h22 swaps usually go for drag =)

i plan to race once in awhile with my car. i do now, but not a lot. im not like a lot of people i know who just go out and drive around looking for races. if im out and i spot a race, ill race. but i dont go outta my way to find them. i need a new engine. i fried a ring. so i mine as well put out the money for a good engine if im ganna end up having to buy an engine. and on top of that, i do want a quick car.

I am sure you will be pleased with the H22 as a daily driver engine

i hope ill be pleased with it. how many people do you nkow that have the h22 put in there accords???

just one

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
i hope ill be pleased with it. how many people do you nkow that have the h22 put in there accords???

Personally, nobody, but I know of many people who have done the swap with no problems.

yeah its pretty sucessful swap.

How come people dont do it? reading through the threads its a pretty favorable thing. I'm def. getting it, just depends on when im ganna get the money for it. most likely at the end of the summer is when im ganna get it, hopefully.

I think you just summed it up why most people don't get it. It's a money issue, and then even when you have that much money, you might be tempted to spend it on something else. I just got some insurance money so I finally have enough for mine and I'm ordering my engine today or tommorow!!!!!

its a big money issue for me. its just if i was completely dedicated to saving all my money up for the engine i would have enough in like 3 months. Its just i see little things that i like and its like oh i want them, so i buy that. its just when you have like $2000 in your hands.... you want a bunch of stuff and its hard to keep that money for just one thing. but no matter what i should have enough at the end of the summer. im starting 7 days a week of work in March. its ganna be tough, but ill get the money for the engine if i dont waste it all on something else.

well im not doing it because my car is gonna have a brand new motor. Now i hear that i want one of the most rare accords, so my dad is just maye gonna get me a v6 which should take my mind off getting a 4 cylinder.

One good way to stay focused is to make a deposit on the engine at the shop you're gonna have it done at. That way you only have to part w/half up front so it doesn't seem that bad. Then the other half, you're motivated to get so you can get your car finished :)

I just put my deposit down today :) I'm very very excited!! I'm getting a 97 JDM H22A w/an LSD :) hehe

sweet dude, Congratulations

yeah congrates on the deposit. hope you enjoy it. dont brag about it too much though. lol. it will make me want it even more than i alread do and i dont have the money for it yet. are you having it professionally installed or are you doing it yourself????

I'm about as technical to rotate my tires! I've gotten to be pretty good friends with someone who has his own shop specializing in custom swaps and turbos doing it for me :)

thats how i am i dont know much about doing things myself, but i prefer it installed by someone who knows what there doing because if i screw something up im totally screwed if i give it to a shop and they screw it up they owe me, i dont have to worry about anything. Im letting Honda put my motor and trans in for me when i get it. im planning to have it by the end of August, but i might wait until the spring time because i dont want a really powerful engine that im not used to and one thati just got and have to try driving it in the snow for he first times. so im prolly ganna wait till next spring to get it, but things might change when i have the money i might buy it them or i might save it for later who knows.

I am also planning on putting a JDM H22a in my '97 Accord Special Edition sedan. I am also going to put a new header, Jet performance chip, cat-back exhaust, and a cold air-intake. I am looking to be making about 260+ horsepower. I found the engine on the internet for $1500 and the rest in a Package deal for $800. the package deal has free shipping and the shipping for the engine is about 300 dollars. I don't know how much installation is.

Just a heads up!!! $1500 for an OBDII H22a is VERY low. You might not know this but when you do a swap, you need to drop in an engine that's at least the same year as your car. So if you have a 97, you need at least a 97 or above engine. OBDII started in 96 as the first year so those engines are a bit more than the 95's and below. But if you don't care about your car not being legal anymore then you could put in the cheaper older one.

Just thought I'd let you know because I know most people don't know about the whole year issue.

thanks for the heads up. I live in north dakota so it won't be too big of a deal. is it legal for shops to install the engine or would i have to do it myself? also, what about insurance? do i have to tell them about the new engine and that it's illegal? and, is 260+ too lofty of a goal for a modified H22A?

no you can get the 260 hp outta it, but it wont all be to the wheels. Thats the only thing that sucks. i wish that it all went to the wheels. yeah and the insurance issue how would that work?? and also i have a 91 Accord EX what type of the h22a would i wanna put in????

what did you mean by which type of H22? did you mean obdI or obdII? I am just going to go with obdI. how hard is it to convert from auto to manual. my engine comes with a manual 5 spd attached so i'm thinking it wouldn't be that majr of an install. maybe just installinga new mounting bracket and clutch pedal.

have fun rippin the car up.....its not the same as buying a car with a manual tranny thats all I know :D

But it should run fine...just have a pro do it.

If you have a 97 OBDII and install and OBDI, your car will no longer be legal and might not even pass smog.

I really don't have to worry about smog here in ND. We never get tested. So I'm all good in that respect.

yeah i was refering to the OBD1 and OBD2. With my 91 accord which one would i have to get to make my car legal still???

Damn, I wish I was that lucky you OBDI less restrictive bastard!!!! :) :)

huh??? are you basically saying that i need to get the OBDI??? whats the difference between the two???

Since you have a 91, you can put a 91 or newer engine in your car. If I were you I'd go between 91 and 95. Those are the OBDI years, they are cheaper and less restrictive. I'm basing this on California laws, don't know about anywhere else.

so how would i know if the engine was an OBDI or OBDII???? do you know any sites that have the OBDI engine for sale??? and how much do they usually run for???

well you can pay a guy to pass you which is illegal:D

i was talking to a guy that does inspections and everything a couple days ago.... he said that they dont really run smog tests anymore around here. so it will pass no matter what basically as long as its got a cat and whatever else he said but he said that if it didnt he would through whatever it needed on so it would pass. but he said smog wouldnt be a problem for me. so idont have to worry about the engine being illegal for smog

what color is your car

i got a 91 also. but unfortunetly its an auto, and i dont wanna go through the conversion. a friend was telling me i should drop a h22 in, but if i remember correctly, those are prelude engines. and they only come manual. what are the best motors available that i can pretty much just drop in???

this is probably a stupid question, but whats the diff between hydro and cable tranny??

no actually i have found automatic h22a motors. they usually run about $600 less that the manual transmission motors. i too have an automatic now and i am getting the whole conversion done because i basically need manual. i hate automatic. sometimes its cool but i just prefer manual over automatic. but i think redime.com has an automatic h22a engine if not just look around because i've seen them quite a few places on the net. the cheapest i found was i believe around $1600 - $1800 which is pretty good if you ask me.

is there something specific thatll be listed under the engine specs?? cause ive been looking and i havent seen any that say "automatic" does it have anything to do with that cable/hydro tranny?

right now im leaving for an appointment i have. when i get home ill post the link up where i saw auto tranny for ya.

AccordEX9191
coo, thanks.


and one more time, whats the diff between the 2 trannys?? and what kind do 4th gens have normally?

cable and hydraulic are different types of clutches, i know my friends 1990 civic has a cable, maybe our year accords were too?

i think i have hydrolic. i remember my friend saying soemthing to me that it sounds like the hydrolic cams ro whatever arent working too well anymore. im not sure exactly what he said but he said something about being hydrolic. so maybe the 4th gen accords have hydrolic trans, im not sure what the difference is but i certainly would like to know. and the website ill ahve to get back to you on, i lost the site im trying to find it though. ill get it to ya dont worry.

you guys dont know what the helll your talking about. the h22a is a perfect motor for the accord. with i/h/e and full interior my 91 accord ex runs 14.9 at the track. for a gsr motor in an accord, that is stupid, it has absolutely no tq and that is what you need in a heavy car.

we dont know what the hell were talking about??? no one ever said the h22a was a bad engine for the accord. so get your facts straight so you dont look like the dumbass saying we dont know what were talking about.

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
we dont know what the hell were talking about??? no one ever said the h22a was a bad engine for the accord. so get your facts straight so you dont look like the dumbass saying we dont know what were talking about.
ummmm... im gonna have to second that opinion. people should always think before they speak. all we've been talking about is how we all want a h22. im thinking someone just wanted to plug their car and its full interior.:D :D :D now im not saying im fast, but 14.9sec(almost 15) isnt impressive. but then again maybe im just crazy. but hey, thats my opinion.

No i dont think thats that fast either. i have a friend who has a 94 accord w/ the h22a engine in it and has like exhaust, intake, header and is running low - mid 13's. thats without a turbo.

running a 13.5......I highly doubt that....a Integra GSR runs a 15.3 with intake and exhaust. You would need more then headers, pulleys, cams to even get low 14's. I doubt a heavier car will do it in low 13's.....is this done with a GTEC pro or actually have time slips?

i have a 94' accord lx and unfortunately it's automatic...like the rest of ya'll i want that h22 so bad i can taste it..but i want the engine in manual...does one of ya'll know the process and the price i'd have to go through to get myaccord converted from auto to manual?

Well since you're close I'll share with ya :)

Midnight Performance
(916) 852-6887 ask for Warren, tell him Sal told you to call.

This guy specializes in custom swaps, turbos, rollcages, racecars. He does auto-2-manual swaps all the time too.

He's about to put in my JDM H22 :D :D :D :D

thanks for the help man...i 'll give that guy a call as soon as i can...i heard that i might be better to put a V6 in a 5th gen accord since they have more torque than a h22a supposedly...that's what i heard but i don't know fo sho..:flash: :flash: :flash: :p

I think a V6 will be too much hassle to put in. The extra money you'll have to pay for both the engine and the install could be spent on the 4cyl. I've just heard that the V6 has too much of a mounting problem. You could always ask him though, if the price is right, anything can be done!

yeah i think you are right man....good call....there is no way around it, the h22a is for the accord..matter of fact they should make a special edition accord with that engine in it and call it the.....eehhhh i got no clue what to call it??
ONE--:flash: :flash: :flash:

It's called an AccLude :D

that's funny but it is lacking a little in somethin' that's why it will never exist.
the accord V-type
since it has V tech now
ONE:flash: :flash: :flash:

Originally posted by LLKoolE7
thanks for the help man...i 'll give that guy a call as soon as i can...i heard that i might be better to put a V6 in a 5th gen accord since they have more torque than a h22a supposedly...that's what i heard but i don't know fo sho..:flash: :flash: :flash: :p

if u really want a manual tranny i wouldn't reccomend the v6, because honda never bothered making a v6 manual, plus the v6 will be only 170 hp.

YOU GUYS ARE GOING ABOUT THIS ALL WRONG

GET AN ACURA TL TYPE S motor + 6 speed tranny

now that is a real motor swap :D :flipa: :D :flipa:

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
Prolly from here......

http://www.jdm1.com/

I mean i will look around for cheaper but these come with 20 - 30K miles. so thast really good. other come with 30 - 50K on them. so most likely im ganna tick with Jdm1.com. have any other sites that i could check out to find motors???


Do NOT buy anything from JDM1. These people are unscrupulous and do not follow up on their promises! It has been 9 months since I ordered a B18C swap from Shaan and I still have not received all the parts supposedly included with the swap. In addition, I ordered an OBD1 swap and received an OBDII. Then they expected me to pay to ship all the incorrect stuff back before they would ship replacements. I am seeking legal action against JDM1. They cost me an additional $2000 in parts for the defective or missing parts.
In addition, I have never received proof that the engine is legal. I suspect that it is not and have submitted my info to federal authorities, as the engine was shipped across international boundaries

A word to the wise, don't waste your money and time.
Let the BUYER BEWARE!

:mad:

its better to swap with the same obdI motor. since its easier to wire everything up. 92-96 are obdI motors for the h22A. there are three types of h22a's. type-s, jdm, and usdm. type-s is like the type r motors and makes 220 horses. jdm makes 200hp and usdm makes 190hp. the 92-96 h22a's bolt right in with hardly a problem. but if u have an automatic accord and converting to stick your gonna have a litte problem with one of the mounts. also the powersteering line has to be redone. they're really is any major problems with the h22a swap into the accords. also the swap isn't going to always come out perfectly. they're have been alot of engine codes being thrown and stuff. but if things come out perfectly the swap is strong on the streets. i've already had the swap done to my car. i have a 92 accord with an h22a jdm with lsd and manual conversion. car was pretty quick. totally changed the entire car. as for the weight. u really can't feel it. its just an extra 200-300 pounds. u have enough power to pull on most cars. i've already walked gsr's, si's, and many cars. u can still use your accord tranny with the lude motor but the gearings are gonna be extra tall. not really good for drag racing but its really good on the highway. u can really top out on it at i think 155. u can try jdmclub.com. they have the complete package for 2300 and its a jdm motor. eveything i have heard of them has been good. also check out hondasociety.com. alot of members on the board has the swap done. check out the hybrid section.