its a big money issue for me. its just if i was completely dedicated to saving all my money up for the engine i would have enough in like 3 months. Its just i see little things that i like and its like oh i want them, so i buy that. its just when you have like $2000 in your hands.... you want a bunch of stuff and its hard to keep that money for just one thing. but no matter what i should have enough at the end of the summer. im starting 7 days a week of work in March. its ganna be tough, but ill get the money for the engine if i dont waste it all on something else.

well im not doing it because my car is gonna have a brand new motor. Now i hear that i want one of the most rare accords, so my dad is just maye gonna get me a v6 which should take my mind off getting a 4 cylinder.

One good way to stay focused is to make a deposit on the engine at the shop you're gonna have it done at. That way you only have to part w/half up front so it doesn't seem that bad. Then the other half, you're motivated to get so you can get your car finished :)

I just put my deposit down today :) I'm very very excited!! I'm getting a 97 JDM H22A w/an LSD :) hehe

sweet dude, Congratulations

yeah congrates on the deposit. hope you enjoy it. dont brag about it too much though. lol. it will make me want it even more than i alread do and i dont have the money for it yet. are you having it professionally installed or are you doing it yourself????

I'm about as technical to rotate my tires! I've gotten to be pretty good friends with someone who has his own shop specializing in custom swaps and turbos doing it for me :)

thats how i am i dont know much about doing things myself, but i prefer it installed by someone who knows what there doing because if i screw something up im totally screwed if i give it to a shop and they screw it up they owe me, i dont have to worry about anything. Im letting Honda put my motor and trans in for me when i get it. im planning to have it by the end of August, but i might wait until the spring time because i dont want a really powerful engine that im not used to and one thati just got and have to try driving it in the snow for he first times. so im prolly ganna wait till next spring to get it, but things might change when i have the money i might buy it them or i might save it for later who knows.

I am also planning on putting a JDM H22a in my '97 Accord Special Edition sedan. I am also going to put a new header, Jet performance chip, cat-back exhaust, and a cold air-intake. I am looking to be making about 260+ horsepower. I found the engine on the internet for $1500 and the rest in a Package deal for $800. the package deal has free shipping and the shipping for the engine is about 300 dollars. I don't know how much installation is.

Just a heads up!!! $1500 for an OBDII H22a is VERY low. You might not know this but when you do a swap, you need to drop in an engine that's at least the same year as your car. So if you have a 97, you need at least a 97 or above engine. OBDII started in 96 as the first year so those engines are a bit more than the 95's and below. But if you don't care about your car not being legal anymore then you could put in the cheaper older one.

Just thought I'd let you know because I know most people don't know about the whole year issue.

thanks for the heads up. I live in north dakota so it won't be too big of a deal. is it legal for shops to install the engine or would i have to do it myself? also, what about insurance? do i have to tell them about the new engine and that it's illegal? and, is 260+ too lofty of a goal for a modified H22A?

no you can get the 260 hp outta it, but it wont all be to the wheels. Thats the only thing that sucks. i wish that it all went to the wheels. yeah and the insurance issue how would that work?? and also i have a 91 Accord EX what type of the h22a would i wanna put in????

what did you mean by which type of H22? did you mean obdI or obdII? I am just going to go with obdI. how hard is it to convert from auto to manual. my engine comes with a manual 5 spd attached so i'm thinking it wouldn't be that majr of an install. maybe just installinga new mounting bracket and clutch pedal.

have fun rippin the car up.....its not the same as buying a car with a manual tranny thats all I know :D

But it should run fine...just have a pro do it.

If you have a 97 OBDII and install and OBDI, your car will no longer be legal and might not even pass smog.

I really don't have to worry about smog here in ND. We never get tested. So I'm all good in that respect.

yeah i was refering to the OBD1 and OBD2. With my 91 accord which one would i have to get to make my car legal still???

Damn, I wish I was that lucky you OBDI less restrictive bastard!!!! :) :)

huh??? are you basically saying that i need to get the OBDI??? whats the difference between the two???

Since you have a 91, you can put a 91 or newer engine in your car. If I were you I'd go between 91 and 95. Those are the OBDI years, they are cheaper and less restrictive. I'm basing this on California laws, don't know about anywhere else.

so how would i know if the engine was an OBDI or OBDII???? do you know any sites that have the OBDI engine for sale??? and how much do they usually run for???

well you can pay a guy to pass you which is illegal:D

i was talking to a guy that does inspections and everything a couple days ago.... he said that they dont really run smog tests anymore around here. so it will pass no matter what basically as long as its got a cat and whatever else he said but he said that if it didnt he would through whatever it needed on so it would pass. but he said smog wouldnt be a problem for me. so idont have to worry about the engine being illegal for smog

what color is your car

i got a 91 also. but unfortunetly its an auto, and i dont wanna go through the conversion. a friend was telling me i should drop a h22 in, but if i remember correctly, those are prelude engines. and they only come manual. what are the best motors available that i can pretty much just drop in???

this is probably a stupid question, but whats the diff between hydro and cable tranny??

no actually i have found automatic h22a motors. they usually run about $600 less that the manual transmission motors. i too have an automatic now and i am getting the whole conversion done because i basically need manual. i hate automatic. sometimes its cool but i just prefer manual over automatic. but i think redime.com has an automatic h22a engine if not just look around because i've seen them quite a few places on the net. the cheapest i found was i believe around $1600 - $1800 which is pretty good if you ask me.

is there something specific thatll be listed under the engine specs?? cause ive been looking and i havent seen any that say "automatic" does it have anything to do with that cable/hydro tranny?

right now im leaving for an appointment i have. when i get home ill post the link up where i saw auto tranny for ya.

AccordEX9191
coo, thanks.


and one more time, whats the diff between the 2 trannys?? and what kind do 4th gens have normally?

cable and hydraulic are different types of clutches, i know my friends 1990 civic has a cable, maybe our year accords were too?

i think i have hydrolic. i remember my friend saying soemthing to me that it sounds like the hydrolic cams ro whatever arent working too well anymore. im not sure exactly what he said but he said something about being hydrolic. so maybe the 4th gen accords have hydrolic trans, im not sure what the difference is but i certainly would like to know. and the website ill ahve to get back to you on, i lost the site im trying to find it though. ill get it to ya dont worry.

you guys dont know what the helll your talking about. the h22a is a perfect motor for the accord. with i/h/e and full interior my 91 accord ex runs 14.9 at the track. for a gsr motor in an accord, that is stupid, it has absolutely no tq and that is what you need in a heavy car.

we dont know what the hell were talking about??? no one ever said the h22a was a bad engine for the accord. so get your facts straight so you dont look like the dumbass saying we dont know what were talking about.

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
we dont know what the hell were talking about??? no one ever said the h22a was a bad engine for the accord. so get your facts straight so you dont look like the dumbass saying we dont know what were talking about.
ummmm... im gonna have to second that opinion. people should always think before they speak. all we've been talking about is how we all want a h22. im thinking someone just wanted to plug their car and its full interior.:D :D :D now im not saying im fast, but 14.9sec(almost 15) isnt impressive. but then again maybe im just crazy. but hey, thats my opinion.

No i dont think thats that fast either. i have a friend who has a 94 accord w/ the h22a engine in it and has like exhaust, intake, header and is running low - mid 13's. thats without a turbo.

running a 13.5......I highly doubt that....a Integra GSR runs a 15.3 with intake and exhaust. You would need more then headers, pulleys, cams to even get low 14's. I doubt a heavier car will do it in low 13's.....is this done with a GTEC pro or actually have time slips?

i have a 94' accord lx and unfortunately it's automatic...like the rest of ya'll i want that h22 so bad i can taste it..but i want the engine in manual...does one of ya'll know the process and the price i'd have to go through to get myaccord converted from auto to manual?

Well since you're close I'll share with ya :)

Midnight Performance
(916) 852-6887 ask for Warren, tell him Sal told you to call.

This guy specializes in custom swaps, turbos, rollcages, racecars. He does auto-2-manual swaps all the time too.

He's about to put in my JDM H22 :D :D :D :D

thanks for the help man...i 'll give that guy a call as soon as i can...i heard that i might be better to put a V6 in a 5th gen accord since they have more torque than a h22a supposedly...that's what i heard but i don't know fo sho..:flash: :flash: :flash: :p

I think a V6 will be too much hassle to put in. The extra money you'll have to pay for both the engine and the install could be spent on the 4cyl. I've just heard that the V6 has too much of a mounting problem. You could always ask him though, if the price is right, anything can be done!

yeah i think you are right man....good call....there is no way around it, the h22a is for the accord..matter of fact they should make a special edition accord with that engine in it and call it the.....eehhhh i got no clue what to call it??
ONE--:flash: :flash: :flash:

It's called an AccLude :D

that's funny but it is lacking a little in somethin' that's why it will never exist.
the accord V-type
since it has V tech now
ONE:flash: :flash: :flash:

Originally posted by LLKoolE7
thanks for the help man...i 'll give that guy a call as soon as i can...i heard that i might be better to put a V6 in a 5th gen accord since they have more torque than a h22a supposedly...that's what i heard but i don't know fo sho..:flash: :flash: :flash: :p

if u really want a manual tranny i wouldn't reccomend the v6, because honda never bothered making a v6 manual, plus the v6 will be only 170 hp.

YOU GUYS ARE GOING ABOUT THIS ALL WRONG

GET AN ACURA TL TYPE S motor + 6 speed tranny

now that is a real motor swap :D :flipa: :D :flipa:

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
Prolly from here......

http://www.jdm1.com/

I mean i will look around for cheaper but these come with 20 - 30K miles. so thast really good. other come with 30 - 50K on them. so most likely im ganna tick with Jdm1.com. have any other sites that i could check out to find motors???


Do NOT buy anything from JDM1. These people are unscrupulous and do not follow up on their promises! It has been 9 months since I ordered a B18C swap from Shaan and I still have not received all the parts supposedly included with the swap. In addition, I ordered an OBD1 swap and received an OBDII. Then they expected me to pay to ship all the incorrect stuff back before they would ship replacements. I am seeking legal action against JDM1. They cost me an additional $2000 in parts for the defective or missing parts.
In addition, I have never received proof that the engine is legal. I suspect that it is not and have submitted my info to federal authorities, as the engine was shipped across international boundaries

A word to the wise, don't waste your money and time.
Let the BUYER BEWARE!

:mad:

its better to swap with the same obdI motor. since its easier to wire everything up. 92-96 are obdI motors for the h22A. there are three types of h22a's. type-s, jdm, and usdm. type-s is like the type r motors and makes 220 horses. jdm makes 200hp and usdm makes 190hp. the 92-96 h22a's bolt right in with hardly a problem. but if u have an automatic accord and converting to stick your gonna have a litte problem with one of the mounts. also the powersteering line has to be redone. they're really is any major problems with the h22a swap into the accords. also the swap isn't going to always come out perfectly. they're have been alot of engine codes being thrown and stuff. but if things come out perfectly the swap is strong on the streets. i've already had the swap done to my car. i have a 92 accord with an h22a jdm with lsd and manual conversion. car was pretty quick. totally changed the entire car. as for the weight. u really can't feel it. its just an extra 200-300 pounds. u have enough power to pull on most cars. i've already walked gsr's, si's, and many cars. u can still use your accord tranny with the lude motor but the gearings are gonna be extra tall. not really good for drag racing but its really good on the highway. u can really top out on it at i think 155. u can try jdmclub.com. they have the complete package for 2300 and its a jdm motor. eveything i have heard of them has been good. also check out hondasociety.com. alot of members on the board has the swap done. check out the hybrid section.