i have someone with a civic si that wants to race me for some money. He has a 00 civic si with cold air headers and i think maybe a short throw shifter. I have a stock type-s at the moment. He thinks he can take me but i still think i have a lot more horses than he has with his mods. what do you guys think?

He's running 160hp@7600 and 111lb.ft.@7000. Even with header, intake and st...you can take him. Show him the specs afterwards and tell him he's a complete retard when you take his money. Just make sure he's not turboed or anything. Tell us how it goes.

yeah.. thats what i figured..i couldn't believe it when he wanted to put money on it... and he isn't turboed.. i have checked on that.

im looking at getting an injen cai and dc sports race headers from club rsx here in about a month.. do you guys think thats a good idea?.. im not getting a full catback because i don't have that much cash and i also heard that the rsx's exaust are pretty good anyways. if there is anything i should get other than the cai and headers let me know.

Hondata! :thumbsup:

no contest.

rsx-s pwnz

DC Race Header and Injen CAI is a good combo, although Hondata would also be good.

And yeah, if itw as a base RSX he'd beat you, but you're going to beat him.

...If his a better Driver he'll take U...just cause u have the better car doesn't mean MUCH...his got a pretty good car 2...don't feel 2 cocky about racing him he probally has had that car for YEARS!! and he'll that really helps....so make sure not to feel to cocky and think ur all that cause Si's aren't a walk-in the park and second a "DRIVER IS HALF OF THE CAR"

If you lose to an SI with those specific mods, you're out of the family...

SBallerk2 - Well duh. And he'll have to be a pretty bad driver to lose....

ya the S should win.

A 4thGen Prelude would take u THO... ;)

but that's a different storie and I don't want to start anything....so let's me ON and say the RSX-S would WIN...

The RSX should win no problem, you got more hp and more torque!

Its a drivers race between the lude and S, with a slight advantage for the S :p

Slight advantage for the type s, i have a 4th gen lude, and ive test driven an S, there is no way a type can take lude.

Slight advantage for the type s, i have a 4th gen lude, and ive test driven an S, there is no way a type can take lude.

Horseshit. It's been done. Prelude is by no means infallible...

The Prelude is heavier than a McDonalds addict. 275 pound difference between that and the RSX.

hahaha....RSX just look like a MIni-Van...!!!...in the other hand 4thgen Lude's look like Mini-Supra's!!

one more thing it's funnny cause a 4th Gen Prelude weigths 2,800 and a RSX-S weight 2,700 and they both have about the same power just that the prelude has like 20 more torque and is like 10 year's OLDER!!! if u ask me the RSX-S is underpowerd

Oh guys I'm Sorry I didn't want to start anything :)

Those mods are going to add him around 10 crank horsepower, 8 to the wheels. That means youll be racing a 2600 lbs car with 170 hp. Youll be racing in a 200 hp 2800 lbs car.

Translating into a 185-190 horsepower car, against a 200 hp car, because of the 200 lbs difference, calculation is 8.5 hp loss per 100lbs of weight difference.

With your added low end torque, assuming your both equal drivers, you are going to take him.

If you were racing against me, probably not :)

Horseshit. It's been done. Prelude is by no means infallible...

RSX-S777 is right.

I am a 4th gen prelude vtec owner, and by no means is my car any faster than a Type-S. The Type-S has a slight advantage. This is purely a driver's race.

SBallerk2, you need to carefully watch your judgement on these type of issues, you're essentially throwing yourself into a pit of hungry tigers. And don't talk shit about me either, you have to remember, we drive the same car.

hahaha....RSX just look like a MIni-Van...!!!...in the other hand 4thgen Lude's look like Mini-Supra's!!
:rolleyes:

I will see if i can race a type s, and see what happens. I will prolly win because that thing has less torque. I have the jdm h22a in my 4th gen. There is no way im gonna lose

Well, there both fast...so that's that!!

sooooo....did he race?

Not yet, i gotta find someone with an s thats wants to race. Its a little hard these days to race in my area, because the cops are everywhere. Hopefully i can find someone and let you know what happens.

SBallerk2 - DRIVER IS HALF OF THE CAR.

:p

Minivan? Riiight. Supra? Yeah right.

*cough* extremely biased towards his own car and thinks its invincible *cough* ;)

dude...an RSX does look like a Minivan and c a 4th Gen Prelude from the back and then c a supra from the back and besdies the lights they look a lot like or should I say a Supra look's like a Prelude...since the Prelude is a year older 92 compare to the Supra 93 look...

LOOK at this Prelude...Made too look like a Mini-Supra...

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/424501

tell me that doesn't look like a mini-supra..oh y the way that's a Turbo Lude

:gives:

dude...an RSX does look like a Minivan and c a 4th Gen Prelude from the back and then c a supra from the back and besdies the lights they look a lot like or should I say a Supra look's like a Prelude...since the Prelude is a year older 92 compare to the Supra 93 look...

LOOK at this Prelude...Made too look like a Mini-Supra...

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/424501

tell me that doesn't look like a mini-supra..oh y the way that's a Turbo Lude
I don't know if you need glasses or something. If you think the RSX looks like a minivan, you must be blind. And I should know since I own a Dodge caravan and the RSX! :eek7:

And if you don't need glasses and you still think it looks like a minivan, it must be one sharp looking one! :rofl:

BTW, I took a look at that prelude and I still think it looks like a prelude. If I saw it on the street, I wouldn't even mistake it for a Supra.

That looks like a prelude.....and a minivan doesn't even work. Vans have four doors, SCRMOM4EVA as a license plate and unless they one of the few JDM ones they look horrible.

If you look at the tails of the RSX you might mistake the brake lights for that of a Ferrari:p

I mistook mine for a Murcielago the other day. Walked out of the house and almost had a stroke. Then I realized it was still just my Acura....

Oh, and in 2002 I also mistook a Prelude for an F-16. True story...


SCRMOM4EVA!

If it had a big enough wing it mighta been an F-22.

Pfft...an F16 can take an F-22 any day. F-22 looks like a minivan, anyway... :lol2:

we'll think what u guys want...but a RSX is way underpowerd for a 2004 car...A Prelude can take it with a good driver if not RSX would not win by much...NUFF SAID!!

Well, in that case, my Prelude is way underpowered for a 96 car. An RSX can take it with a good driver, if not, the Prelude would not win by much...NUFF SAID!!

You seriously need to think a lot more before you speak. Didn't you realize that what you just said would apply very much the same when put in the inverse situation?

signal....shut up and look at what u said....this MORON....a 04 compared to a 96 is about a 8 year 100 plus k mile car which makes ur and all prelude OLD!!!

signal get a RSX....u Lude hater....oh one more thing and we still got a bigger more TORQUE engine ahahahahahhaha I declare this SUBJECT CLOSED!! I REST MY CASE!!! (it's getting SILLY I'll be the bigger man and drop it)

You're really losing your points here....then you can say a MS Protege, Celica, Scion tC, and many others are underpowered for 2004/5.

If you're engine is so great, how come it doesn't have i-VTEC? How come its responsiveness to mods is pretty much nothing? How come boosting H22's isn't really the best thing? How come all prelude's are heavier than a hummer? And what about new technology in the K Series engine?

Put away the 2F2F DVD, it isn't all about straight line.

signal get a RSX....u Lude hater....oh one more thing and we still got a bigger more TORQUE engine ahahahahahhaha I declare this SUBJECT CLOSED!! I REST MY CASE!!! (it's getting SILLY I'll be the bigger man and drop it)
I rest MY case... :lol:

O.K. RSX-S is the fastest car out there.....i-VTEC hahahaha that's a good one....and yes all those car's r underpowerd u want real power get a WRX, Evo,Z Etc.

this guy i-VTEC....booooooo whoooooooo

Notice there's always one guy that needs to start that "fag Sh** " dude it's O.K. not the whole world can be a "fag" like u

y r u even downloading fag pic's even to post them that's kind of "fagged" shit...

Your points are going downhill, same can be said for your english skills.

Unlike you, i'm not saying my car is the fastest, i'm saying the RSX is better because of the points I made.

Please stay quiet before you make other Prelude owners seem as dumb as you are.

Straight line isn't everything

That's my whole point, senorita.

y r u even downloading fag pic's even to post them that's kind of "fagged" shit...
it r a pic taht b posteded all ovar t3h interw3b.


Look at the tag, its a pic right off this site.

signal....shut up and look at what u said....this MORON....a 04 compared to a 96 is about a 8 year 100 plus k mile car which makes ur and all prelude OLD!!!

signal get a RSX....u Lude hater....oh one more thing and we still got a bigger more TORQUE engine ahahahahahhaha I declare this SUBJECT CLOSED!! I REST MY CASE!!! (it's getting SILLY I'll be the bigger man and drop it)

My lude has 80k...

So what if i'm compairing an 04 to a 96? What about a 68 coronet 500 compared to our "NEWER" 92-96 ludes. Now who would win?

Age doesn't matter, Mileage doesn't matter.

Just because i know the truth about the RSX-S, and that I know its a driver's race, I'm all the sudden a lude hater? I take pride in my car, but i don't take it for something it isn't. The Lude is by no means unbeatable, it will take a lot of cars out there, but NOT unbeatable. Yes, our car has more torque, but its 200lbs heavier.

And yes, I am pretty sure you are the bigger man, making personal remarks/attacks towards others. I have not a single time in this thread made ANY personal attacks towards you, calling you a moron, gay, NOTHING, i've tried to make this as professional as possible. SBallerk2, I seriously don't have a problem with you, I just like to challenge peoples opinions. Why do you always have to take everything personally? You truly are a discgrace to the Prelude community.

By the way SBallerK2...I'm going to let you in on a little AF secret. You don't have to put every single one of your ill-thought out, spelling and grammar-error packed thoughts in a new post. Three CONSECUTIVE posts of that tripe can be easily fit into one, longer bullshit post. As far as interjecting actual facts and rational thoughts into those posts...I can't help you there- you're on your own.

P.S. Please don't tell my girlfriend I'm a giant fag. Thanks! :biggrin:

take it easy man.. and if you haven't noticed the wrx and, evo, and z your talkin about are all about 10k more than the s as in price. Those are underpowered to a freakin viper.. the list goes on and on.

stop hurting me :(

ha! I just Love Lude's!!

You can love Preludes. I love em' too. Just don't be an idiot about it. :smile:

My lude has 80k...

So what if i'm compairing an 04 to a 96? What about a 68 coronet 500 compared to our "NEWER" 92-96 ludes. Now who would win?

Age doesn't matter, Mileage doesn't matter.

Just because i know the truth about the RSX-S, and that I know its a driver's race, I'm all the sudden a lude hater? I take pride in my car, but i don't take it for something it isn't. The Lude is by no means unbeatable, it will take a lot of cars out there, but NOT unbeatable. Yes, our car has more torque, but its 200lbs heavier.

And yes, I am pretty sure you are the bigger man, making personal remarks/attacks towards others. I have not a single time in this thread made ANY personal attacks towards you, calling you a moron, gay, NOTHING, i've tried to make this as professional as possible. SBallerk2, I seriously don't have a problem with you, I just like to challenge peoples opinions. Why do you always have to take everything personally? You truly are a discgrace to the Prelude community.Thank you.

race yet?

Ok, now I have to say something here.

2001 Prelude TypeSH: curb weight 3042 lbs, 200 hp, 156 ftlbs., 0-60 7.2sec, max hp @ 7000 rpm, max torque @ 5250 rpm

2002 Acura RSX TypeS: curb weight 2766 lbs, 200 hp, 142 ftlbs, 0-60 6.7sec, max hp @ 7400 rpm, max torque @ 6000 rpm.

Taking all this in consideration, I don't know what you're looking at, but a TypeS is quicker than a TypeSH stock for stock and using the same driver. Just look at the 0-60 times and the max rpms and you'll see that. :shakehead

And I agree with what signal has said. There's no need to call people names here and doing so doesn't get your point across. He owns a prelude and has the right to say anything he feels about it. But notice that he doesn't call people names when his opinion differs from that of others.

So my advice is to grow up and learn how to talk without the insults. :nono:

mmont0 we we're talking about 93-96 VTEC Prelude's which r a bit faster and r 0-60 in 6.5sec's...but yeah a RSX-S probally should still beat a Prelude but I wouldn't be suprise if the Prelude took it either....I think it's a drivers RACE but then again stats show the RSX-S should win.........tho...Stats a side I don't c y not the Prelude can't take it just my thought...

Stats aside, my RSX is just as good as an Enzo. Why can't a beat one? Maybe they're to scared to challenge me.

And the RSX has gotten 6.1 in the 0-60 many times, and that's limited by its crappy tires.

hahaha...dude ur funny...a VTEC Prelude and RSX have almost the same engine's...with one having more Torque then the other and being .2 Liters bigger only difference...and my point on stats was that "it's not always based on stats" if they we're then there's no way muscle car's would loose and v6 Accords would be Dreamy...also u beating an ENZO hahaha I needed a good LAUGH THANKXXX

ur talking about a V12!!! get lost KID

Drivers being equal it is ALL based on stats. If a statistically superior car loses to a V6 Accord, the driver is a fucktard. And you STILL seem unable or unwilling to recognize/ factor in the weight difference between the Prelude and RSX-S...

Also, Canuck's comment about the Enzo, if I understood correctly, was a prime example of sarcasm.

dude...that's the point tell me one time in ur life two equal drivers raced??? everyone is different...some better some worst...point in case yes I do also think a RSX-S should beat a Prelude things being equal but that's not always true....I wouldn't be suprise to hear a Lude Vtec take out a RSX-S example if my friend told me today he beat a RSX-S I would belive now if he told me a he beat Enzo ...I would point and LAUGH!!!! hahahaha

Well then for every race you can blame it on the driver.


Sarcasm > You

I said it before "A driver is half the ca"r...trust me my friend hits the Gears like crazy then I hitted and the car doesn't even move half as fast as he makes it move...sad :( but TRUE

VTEC Prelude and RSX have almost the same engine's...

No.

mmont0 we we're talking about 93-96 VTEC Prelude's which r a bit faster and r 0-60 in 6.5sec's...but yeah a RSX-S probally should still beat a Prelude but I wouldn't be suprise if the Prelude took it either....I think it's a drivers RACE but then again stats show the RSX-S should win.........tho...Stats a side I don't c y not the Prelude can't take it just my thought...
Well, the stats for the VTEC prelude are worse than the TypeSH:

2001 Prelude TypeSH: curb weight 3042 lbs, 200 hp, 156 ftlbs., 0-60 7.2sec, max hp @ 7000 rpm, max torque @ 5250 rpm

1998 Prelude VTEC: curb weight 2932 lbs, 190 hp, 158 ftlbs, max hp @ 6800 rpm, max torque @ 5500rpm.

It might weigh a few pounds less, but it has 10 less hp. And if you're comparing a '98 prelude with a '02 RSX, I think the wear on the prelude will give it less hp.

dude...that's the point tell me one time in ur life two equal drivers raced??? everyone is different...some better some worst...point in case yes I do also think a RSX-S should beat a Prelude things being equal but that's not always true....I wouldn't be suprise to hear a Lude Vtec take out a RSX-S example if my friend told me today he beat a RSX-S I would belive now if he told me a he beat Enzo ...I would point and LAUGH!!!! hahahaha
Two equal drivers don't race against each other, but I'm just saying that if you took the prelude and ran it against a time trial and then you got in an RSX and ran it, you would definitely see a difference in times. Favoring the RSX, of course. You shouldn't measure a car's performance based on different drivers since that will always vary, but rather as if you sat in the seat of both cars.

As to a prelude taking an RSX with different drivers in the seats, that is always possible. Both cars are very close in performance with the RSX leading by a bit. If a driver in the RSX doesn't know how to drive as well compared to that of the driver in the prelude, I would always give it to the prelude.

soooooo.....did he ever race?

alright guys Type-S vs swapped Type-S who would win??? Lude!!! deny that...yeah thought so!! any how Lude's r fast and so r RSX-S and u can say anything u want but when it comes down to it I guess u can say the RSX-S is faster but in look's I would take the 92-96 Prelude's in a heart BEAT..(my taste of course_ and since we're talking about equal things....alright RSX-S vs Swapped 92-96 Prelude-S engine there's no contest....hahahaha

LoL just kidding...I love Prelude's and that's THAT let's move on and YES, we all know the RSX should beat a LUDE...just don't race a JDM swapped VTEC cause u'll be SORRY!!! :)

and for u people how r like....what's the differences there's a HUGE differences...just know that...(think before u reply) or just end it already.... :)

so did the Si and RSX race??

LoL just kidding...I love Prelude's and that's THAT let's move on and YES, we all know the RSX should beat a LUDE...just don't race a JDM swapped VTEC cause u'll be SORRY!!! :)

Don't race a JDM Type-R swapped RSX either, cuz you'll be sorry.

Don't race a JDM Type-R swapped RSX either, cuz you'll be sorry.
:1: :lol:

hahaha. And I barely understood that post. In the beginning do you mean a K20A2 engine or a H22A because you said s and I barely understood that.

And the car is so great it needs another engine for it to win:p

O.K. moron's if u guys didn't know...there's a Type-S Prelude that is faster then any JDM TYPE R Teg and RSX-S JDM check the stupid stats u MORON"S!!! :screwy: FUCK OFF GUYS!!! SIGNAL what a..... :flipa: ....to Prelude OWNERS!! I have no respect for u ..dude buy ur self a damn RSX and make sure to buy a Type S or u'll get kill's from Lude's!!!...and the reason it needs another engine (which is actually the same h22) is cause ur talking about...Type-S engine's how about we equal things and play equal since u guys talk a lot about things being equal alright how about u race a JDM VTEC Swapp Type-S Prelude....now the tables have TURNED...

it's like saying a racing Base RSX vs 97-01 Prelude Base.....the Lude has and will always be Honda/Acura best feat. car!!! (from Teg's, Civic's etc.) :evillol:

no matter what u guys try to pull up on a Lude...the curb weight or whatever....reason y so many people hate on Lude's is cause so many of u r fucking MORON'S!!! never took the time to test drive a LUDE!!! so ur all saddly stuck with 1.6's, 1.8's 2.0's :( and wish u could have my mass of TORQUE when i'm pullin' ahead of u after 2nd and 3rd GEAR's!!!! :grinyes: hahahahahahaha by the way for u who don't know all 97-01 Lude's come VTEC with same HP....and Torque and before that the first car ever to have real Twin Cam VTEC was the 93 Prelude's before that 88 Prelude we're the first to ever have real 2.0 Twin Cam engine's before that the Lude was the first in 86 to have dual-Carb. listen goes on and on!!! (for Honda/Acura)

SADDLY
:(
R.I.P. 6th Gen LUDE's!!!!

*list....

one more thing.... :gives:

THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITH OUT ACUTUAL RACE's!!!!

so :flipa:

TALK IN PROPER ENGLISH. I'm not a moron because you're typing like a teenager on MSN.

Lude is the best feature car? Uhhh I think the S2000 and NSX would thoroughly destory a prelude and an RSX.

Who cares if it was first for everything. The Model T was the first car to be mass produced but its a piece of crap.

Do you know what weight is? It has a big factor to.

I'm leaving it like this. I can't even read half of the crap you just said for me to criticize it.




You're like 03'350Z except you actually reply.....

O.K. moron's if u guys didn't know...there's a Type-S Prelude that is faster then any JDM TYPE R Teg and RSX-S JDM check the stupid stats u MORON"S!!! :screwy: FUCK OFF GUYS!!! SIGNAL what a..... :flipa: ....to Prelude OWNERS!! I have no respect for u ..dude buy ur self a damn RSX and make sure to buy a Type S or u'll get kill's from Lude's!!!...and the reason it needs another engine (which is actually the same h22) is cause ur talking about...Type-S engine's how about we equal things and play equal since u guys talk a lot about things being equal alright how about u race a JDM VTEC Swapp Type-S Prelude....now the tables have TURNED...

it's like saying a racing Base RSX vs 97-01 Prelude Base.....the Lude has and will always be Honda/Acura best feat. car!!! (from Teg's, Civic's etc.) :evillol:

no matter what u guys try to pull up on a Lude...the curb weight or whatever....reason y so many people hate on Lude's is cause so many of u r fucking MORON'S!!! never took the time to test drive a LUDE!!! so ur all saddly stuck with 1.6's, 1.8's 2.0's :( and wish u could have my mass of TORQUE when i'm pullin' ahead of u after 2nd and 3rd GEAR's!!!! :grinyes: hahahahahahaha by the way for u who don't know all 97-01 Lude's come VTEC with same HP....and Torque and before that the first car ever to have real Twin Cam VTEC was the 93 Prelude's before that 88 Prelude we're the first to ever have real 2.0 Twin Cam engine's before that the Lude was the first in 86 to have dual-Carb. listen goes on and on!!! (for Honda/Acura)

SADDLY
:(
R.I.P. 6th Gen LUDE's!!!!

No, you check the stats, you obviously didn't research it.

The first twin cam vtecs cars came in the 80's with the b16, followed by the 91 NSX, NOT the Prelude. You swear that the Prelude is the innovator of all things that are good.

JDM Type-R DC5=220hp
JDM Type-S Prelude=220hp

How the hell is that not comparable? Why in the world is the prelude all the sudden faster? This race is just comparable as a normal vtec lude and type-s rsx.

:sleeping:

who WON???? Si Or RSX-S

signal...Look at my reply (teg,civic,etc.) etc.= accord's, hatchbacks,del sol's, non- so called SUPER CAR's!!!

also there's no RSX-S with 220HP in here in U.S. unless u imported ur self and if they was I wouldn't think it would have more Torque then a Prelude!!

also guys Look up the defention for Prelude and u'll c y it was Honda's/Acura's first thing for everything the name says it alone...

Looks like no one cares about your points since you keep insulting everyone. And I have to say that there are no "morons" here. So why do you keep posting in the RSX area? Why don't you go back and talk with your prelude buddies?

SBallerk2 = Prelude elitist

I like busting people's BALLS!!!

did he race yet?

signal...Look at my reply (teg,civic,etc.) etc.= accord's, hatchbacks,del sol's, non- so called SUPER CAR's!!!

also there's no RSX-S with 220HP in here in U.S. unless u imported ur self and if they was I wouldn't think it would have more Torque then a Prelude!!

also guys Look up the defention for Prelude and u'll c y it was Honda's/Acura's first thing for everything the name says it alone...

When the hell did i mention ANYTHING about supercars?

Also, there's no Prelude with 220hp in the US unless you imported it neither!

WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO GET AT? Its just the same as the RSX Type-R Motor!! !You have to IMPORT your LUDE motor to GET the FULL JDM 220HP. You have proven in NO way, that the PRELUDE is BETTER in ANY ASPECT than the RSX'S.

For every Prelude, theres an RSX Counterpart.

Prelude Si is to RSX Base = 160hp
Prelude VTEC is to RSX-S = 200hp
Prelude (JDM) Type-S is to RSX (JDM) Type-R = 220hp

Also, the JDM K20A Type-R Motor is BETTER, than the JDM h22 type-S in many aspects, with the TORQUE, almost the SAME.

JDM K20A Type-R:
220 hp
158 lbs/ft

JDM H22A Type-S:
220hp
163 lbs/ft

With the K20 being even LIGHTER than any B-SERIES motor, also coming with a 6 SPEED TRANNY.

The "Prelude"s name signifies NOTHING. It was NOT the first to have a DOHC, it was NOT the first to have a DOHC VTEC.

I like busting people's BALLS!!!

Problem is, you suck at it. Your posts are worthless and barely coherent. Learn the language, learn how to type and get your facts straight- then I might develop a shred of respect for you. As it stands now, we all see you as a fucking joke. I would strongly suggest you stop posting stupid, inflammatory bullshit before I have you unceremoniously banned. Try me and see what happens...I'm fully sick of you at this point.

^ Yeah, that.

Man, have you EVER looked at the facts? The heavier car is going to lose, engine wise they're similar but the lude doesn't have a 6 Speed.

And why are you attacking signal? He's actualling looking at the facts and being unbiased.

6-Speed's 5-speed's doesn't make difference in that case Truck's would be the fastest car's in the WORLD and we all know how they slow down TRAFFIC!!!...notice I said Base Prelude....not Si meaning a Base Prelude is from 97-01 with 190-200 HP from auto to stick and vary from years...97-99 190 auto 195 stick 200 stick 00-01 and 190 for auto....how is the Base RSX even close to the lude's power????? :lol2:


also we can easly buy a Lude Type S motor (with a aftermarket here in the US for that engine) while there's no MArket for a Type R motor for the RSX to buy here in the US or parts cause car's to brake DOWN u know also would u want to swap a motor with probally less then 10 k on it with a Type S label on it??? :loser: :lol2:


this guy 6-Speed's boo whoooooo!!! :thumbsdow: guess what It won't TAKE ME MORE THEN 3 GEARS to take u DOWN ON MY LUDE!!! :worshippy


:flipa: this stock TALK o.K. u guys win RSX-S is Acura's best car (non NSX) boo whooo let's give them a moment of slience :sleep:

guess what my car is 10 years older with the SAME or better power (Torque) sure my car weight's more so i'm CHUBBY boo whooo what does a couple of thousands pounds do to the same power with more Torque to make up for it...?? yeah keep wishing for my Torque when I pull ahead of u in the long run...cause that's what a REAL RACE IS then will c who's car is really BETTER for the money and overall!! so now who wants to take my LUDE!!!! :dunno:

GUESS WHAT UR ENGINE is OLD NEWS don't u feel stupid for buying old NEWS for 23k SHIT I know I WOULD!!!! u just bought a smaller engine with a Type S emblem who's the RICER!!!! :loser:

LUDE's REPLY!!!

*shit acutally a couple of 100's (hey I been racing) :)

6-Speed's 5-speed's doesn't make difference in that case Truck's would be the fastest car's in the WORLD and we all know how they slow down TRAFFIC!!!...notice I said Base Prelude....not Si meaning a Base Prelude is from 97-01 with 190-200 HP from auto to stick and vary from years...97-99 190 auto 195 stick 200 stick 00-01 and 190 for auto....how is the Base RSX even close to the lude's power????? :lol2:


also we can easly buy a Lude Type S motor (with a aftermarket here in the US for that engine) while there's no MArket for a Type R motor for the RSX to buy here in the US or parts cause car's to brake DOWN u know also would u want to swap a motor with probally less then 10 k on it with a Type S label on it??? :loser: :lol2:


this guy 6-Speed's boo whoooooo!!! :thumbsdow: guess what It won't TAKE ME MORE THEN 3 GEARS to take u DOWN ON MY LUDE!!! :worshippy


:flipa: this stock TALK o.K. u guys win RSX-S is Acura's best car (non NSX) boo whooo let's give them a moment of slience :sleep:

guess what my car is 10 years older with the SAME or better power (Torque) sure my car weight's more so i'm CHUBBY boo whooo what does a couple of thousands pounds do to the same power with more Torque to make up for it...?? yeah keep wishing for my Torque when I pull ahead of u in the long run...cause that's what a REAL RACE IS then will c who's car is really BETTER for the money and overall!! so now who wants to take my LUDE!!!! :dunno:

GUESS WHAT UR ENGINE is OLD NEWS don't u feel stupid for buying old NEWS for 23k SHIT I know I WOULD!!!! u just bought a smaller engine with a Type S emblem who's the RICER!!!! :loser:

LUDE's REPLY!!!

Ok Guys, lets take a moment to evaluate this post.

The fact that the K20 was a six speed was only a factual statement, it was not part of my proposal to prove that it is in fact better. Which brings me to my next point. The fact that a car has more gears would most likely mean that each gear has a shorter ratio. By shortening the ratio, you have made it easier for the car to acccelerate; as we all know, longer gears are never in ANY case better for acceleration. If in fact having less gears; longer ratios, are better, why don't we all drive 3 speeds? In any case, remove this from the equation, you seem to view it as irrelevant anyway.

I never evaluated any car out of its proper counterpart. I would never compare an Si lude to a RSX-S; but only in their respective categories. Si lude to Base RSX. VTEC/Base Lude to RSX-S, and Type-S Lude to Type-R RSX/Integra. It is YOU that mixes and matches cars from different horsepower categories, in order to give the Prelude an unfavorable advantage.

You can also easily buy an type-r k20; in fact the same place you would get your type-s h22, example being hmotorsonline. There is in fact a vast aftermarket for the type-r k20, because you have to remember, its still your basic k20 head, and k20 block, just with different valvetrain; With the k-series now being available in almost all new generation Hondas, it is bound to have the aftermarket bigger than that of the B-Series; which already, outnumbers that of the H-Series by many times.

Now when you talk about "Acura's best car"; You do realize that Acura is in fact not a company itself, but only a division of HONDA, the dear makers of YOUR PRELUDE.

You seem to love bringing up the old topic of torque. Sure, the JDM H22 Type-S has a couple more lbs/ft than the JDM K20 Type-R. But you have to put into consideration the torque multiplication factor. You keep saying the lude would pull away in the long run, but it is in fact the rsx that would, due to this very factor. This is why our cars are able to take out V6 Camaros, which nearly double our peak Torque, but with low torque multiplication factor.

Don't bring ricers into this equation, it was never part of it to begin with.

Your rebuttal, please.

You have to be the biggest dumbfuck this forum has ever seen. Were you born retarded or did you grow like that?

A - Speed isn't everything, there's luxury and handling in the RSX.
B - The K20A has a bigger market than the H22A
C - Gear ratios of the shorer shifter 6 speed make a difference
D - If the lude is SO good how come in the few years the RSX has been out it has surpassed it in aftermarket support
E - Sure it has a few more pounds of torque, but that only helps in the short term, horsepower is the one that keeps you going.
F - The Prelude has to get over its weight penalty
G - Read the above post before you post a single thing then use proper english so I can understand what the hell you are saying (as wrong as it is) and learn about cars. Then post.

Nice post there signal! Well written and informative. I just wish others would be just as informed and well mannered! But I guess I can only wish. :disappoin


BTW, Sballerk, the only person you're busting is yourself. You're throwing around facts like a :screwy: person and you're not making sense half the time.

I think I'll leave it at that. I don't plan on feeding the trolls anymore.
:banghead: :biggrin2: :chair:

wtf??? shorter ratio's better...that's the biggest B/S I have ever heard....??? Dude...longer ratio's is the way to go....the longer u can rev ur engine the faster it will move to next gEAR....(sure it isn't good for ur engine but heck racing isn't GOOD for ur engine PERIOD!!!) also y is doing 90 in 6 gear better then doing 90 in 3rd GEAR?? :screwy: which my Lude does with no problem...

....call it what u WANT I just have RESPECT for my Lude as I wish everyone else had...since u all think there heavy and SLOW!! don't hate me cause of my weight hate cause of my better stats,handling,trip-out odemeter's,big ass in the back, mini-supra LOOK or should I say a supra has a mini Prelude LOOK('92 to '93 Supra)?? they do have weight on there side...with both car's being REAL FAST with a TURBO thrown in to a LUDE which power increase's much more from port and polish, turbo, super, since we do have bigger engine's...also I don't give a rat's azzz if ur engine has 6-speed's or 20 speed's all u need when u race is 3-4 gears NUFF SAID!!! heck if I hit 5th on my LUDE I'm asking for a trip to the GRAVE YARD!!! :nono:

How is it that the h22 pepp's have a tought time with aftermarket parts??? I can find parts for my LUDE as u can for ur k20 DUDE I do have a HONDA U KNOW :screwy:

y the h22 is better off then a b16,GSR,k20....MOTOR SWAP

If I had a Hatchback it would be a :nono: not to swap the bigger faster h22 Type S then any Type R 1.8 teg or 2.0 RSX...just by the numbers the h22 would be the better fit...for mass take off over any RSX or teg engine on a hatchy... Imagine 170 Torque to the wheels of a HATCH BACK: :worshippy

also GUYS i'm not trying to type an ESSAY for Mr.RSX just so u know!!

SIGNAL HAVE SOME RESPECT TO UR LUDE...just so u know it's one of Honda's daily driving faster car's out there!!!

go to Kazaa,IMESh or a P2P network and look up Prelude.....and u'll find a Lude's beat out RSX's left and right from 4th Gen's to 5th Gen's...also taking on GSR's,Type-R (keep's up till the end),3000GT even a Supra...which it BEATS BOTH!!! I kidd u NOT!!! :nono:

wtf??? shorter ratio's better...that's the biggest B/S I have ever heard....??? Dude...longer ratio's is the way to go....the longer u can rev ur engine the faster it will move to next gEAR....(sure it isn't good for ur engine but heck racing isn't GOOD for ur engine PERIOD!!!) also y is doing 90 in 6 gear better then doing 90 in 3rd GEAR?? :screwy: which my Lude does with no problem...

....call it what u WANT I just have RESPECT for my Lude as I wish everyone else had...since u all think there heavy and SLOW!! don't hate me cause of my weight hate cause of my better stats,handling,trip-out odemeter's,big ass in the back, mini-supra LOOK or should I say a supra has a mini Prelude LOOK('92 to '93 Supra)?? they do have weight on there side...with both car's being REAL FAST with a TURBO thrown in to a LUDE which power increase's much more from port and polish, turbo, super, since we do have bigger engine's...also I don't give a rat's azzz if ur engine has 6-speed's or 20 speed's all u need when u race is 3-4 gears NUFF SAID!!! heck if I hit 5th on my LUDE I'm asking for a trip to the GRAVE YARD!!! :nono:

How is it that the h22 pepp's have a tought time with aftermarket parts??? I can find parts for my LUDE as u can for ur k20 DUDE I do have a HONDA U KNOW :screwy:

y the h22 is better off then a b16,GSR,k20....MOTOR SWAP

If I had a Hatchback it would be a :nono: not to swap the bigger faster h22 Type S then any Type R 1.8 teg or 2.0 RSX...just by the numbers the h22 would be the better fit...for mass take off over any RSX or teg engine on a hatchy... Imagine 170 Torque to the wheels of a HATCH BACK: :worshippy

also GUYS i'm not trying to type an ESSAY for Mr.RSX just so u know!!

SIGNAL HAVE SOME RESPECT TO UR LUDE...just so u know it's one of Honda's daily driving faster car's out there!!!

OK, since you believe longer ratios are the way to go, why don't we all start our cars in 5th gear, being the longest ratio in our car. How fast does your car feel now? How much faster are you accelerating, with your long ratio gear? Quite slow, i'd assume. The RSX btw, does NOT top off 6th gear at 90mph. Having that type of ratio would render basically any car undrivable in any given situation.

I also have respect for my lude, why do you think i drive one? I would've gotten rid of it by now if I "hate" it as you push other people to believe; and never once did i mention that it was heavy and slow. I'm just stating the bare, unadultered facts. And you are in fact wrong about our car's responding better to mods, it is in fact that RSX (K-Series) that has had the best modification response to date. When did you ever hear about an H-Series motor gaining 20whp from a simple CAI? Never. But a K20 will.

Never did I once mention that it was "hard" to find parts for an h22. My statement was that the K series market will in fact become more vast than that of the H series.

I personally, would pick a K24block/k20type-r head swap in a hatchback. The K-series is lighter than a b16; which in itself, is lighter than an h22, while putting out about the same, if not more hp as a jdm type-s h22, while definitely putting out way more torque.

I again will restate, I have respect for my lude, and I was already aware that it is one of the fastest daily drivable cars that Honda has to offer, you just need to realize that the Prelude is not the end-all to Honda street performance.

Again, your rebuttal, please.

shit good luck starting ur car in 5th....lol (come on don't be a dick about it ether u know what I was trying to SAY) but whatever..Kobe is now a LAKER and I'm in a GOOD MOOD :)

My RSX-S could beat Kobe in a race any day...

hahahahaha



Trip-out odometer? WTF? You mean a trip computer odometer? Well the RSX has 2.

I give him. You can debate to yourself SBallerk2, you've lost it.

shit good luck starting ur car in 5th....lol (come on don't be a dick about it ether u know what I was trying to SAY) but whatever..Kobe is now a LAKER and I'm in a GOOD MOOD :)

Look man, I know you like your Prelude, I like mine too; The Prelude is by no means slow in its class of vehicles. The Prelude has extremely strong points, but the RSX only minorly edges it out, thats i'll i've been trying to get through your head in this whole thread. Again, i know you like your lude, just don't bring it to the extent that you have to inflict biased negative opinions upon others. I'm happy that you like your car, you are in fact lucky to like your car that much. Its a healthy part of owning a car; liking it. I know people who absolutely are in disgust of their cars, so much that they even dread the very sight of it. So consider yourself a lucky person, to be able to own such a nice car.

Prelude, Good car.
RSX, Good car.

See, Sballer? It's perfectly acceptable here to respond in a calm manner. You don't have to rip someone's head off just to try and make a point.

And RSX-S777, your car vs. Kobe would TOTALLY be a driver's race...

sooo...did u stop caring if they raced or not :dunno:

sooo...did u stop caring if they raced or not :dunno:

I think my head exploded 3 pages back. Forgot about the race altogether...

Cartoys- I have waaaaaaay more torque than Kobe. :biggrin:

I think my head exploded 3 pages back. Forgot about the race altogether...

Cartoys- I have waaaaaaay more torque than Kobe. :biggrin:

True....but, Kobe does have that whole 2,600 pound advantage...lol

shit u race KOBE and his 2 million dollar car and tell me who wins.....when he pulls up on u on a "Maclaren F-1" with his wife riding along on a Nissian Skyline video taping the 3.0 sec race LOL while u use ur 6 speed's to his 1 SPEED!!! hahahahah kidding

I'm just so HAPPY KOBE is coming BACK...as all L.A. is..

G.P and Kobe in the back

Odom and Brian Grant in the front

not too bad....(we're young again)

now for R CENTER hmmm I wonder if that big 7 footer in Cleveland is tradeable????

well for all you that wants to know if i have raced yet..the guy with the civic ran over some railroad tracks at about 80 mph and screwed some stuff up.. so its in the shop so......WE HAVE NOT YET RACED..LOL

damn that suck's...when u do RACE please tell 411..

shit u race KOBE and his 2 million dollar car and tell me who wins.....

No, you misunderstood. I am in my S...he's on foot. I let him pull on me early to get his hopes up...then I smoke him. :biggrin:

...did they race yet.

RSX-S all day

lol, a little late on that reply there eh buddy? :icon16:

lol. I just read the first page and got bored so i didn't read the whole thread.

go to Kazaa,IMESh or a P2P network and look up Prelude.....and u'll find a Lude's beat out RSX's left and right from 4th Gen's to 5th Gen's...also taking on GSR's,Type-R (keep's up till the end),3000GT even a Supra...which it BEATS BOTH!!! I kidd u NOT!!! :nono:

yes... this is how all car experts find out how fast cars are.... go on kazaa and download street race videos!!! :screwy:

wow... your really embarrasing yourself, i want you to know that


do u really think that a prelude is faster than a supra stock? do you think that the cars in the video were stock??? when was the last time you saw a 200hp prelude beat a 320hp supra tt??? the 3000gt could have easily been an sl which only has 222hp fwd and weighs something like 3400 (not quite sure but its arround there)

a couple pages back you were talking about your massive torque.... when was 156ft lbs massive?? lol sorry but that is laghable... a 1990 mr2 has 200 ft lbs.. so dont talk your, "my car is ten years older" crap

you say... i swapped a jdm engine in... ok... who says you cant swap one in an rsx??? even the mr2 again has an alternate engine with 245hp :eek7:

the prelude is not a slug but cant really be considered "fast"... its no true sports car imo with its fwd

i am not bashing the prelude, but seriously, u need to open up your eyes.... your "facts" are all opinions, so i suggest you just stop talking

Lil LATE BUDDY... READ MY NEW MESSAGE's

also those R Turbo CAR's...don't Compare Turbo vs non-Turbo car's...also on that message I was "just saying" that a Lude can be made very FAST..as MR2's and all the car's u talked about can too...oh and u just remined me...I killed a MR2 I think it was like two day's ago man those things R S-L-O-W!! I mean no JOKE I killed it from take-off and must of beaten it by a good 5-8 car's "Fo REALS"

can someone PLEASE CLOSED THIS THREAD???

Thankxxx...

Street racing only proves that your a punk who doesn't care about his own life and others. Maybe he wasn't racing....or maybe there were problems with his car.

And good luck getting this thread closed, our mod sucks - I doubt he's even posted (or maybe even viewed) this forum. PM an admin or something - although I PM'ed Igor over 2 weeks ago with no response or read reciept....

like he said... how do u know it was even racing you? plus if it was an n/a then it only has 130hp... it would be a shame if it beat u... if it was turbo on the other hand... 200hp 200ft lbs weight ~2600 plus rwd... i would be very hesitant to call an mr2 slow especially with their tuning abuility

if preludes were so damn fast and whooped on everything then why don't you see the pros racing them? 'Cus they're big and heavy. Yeah, they can put down alot of hp but they're heavy as shit.

LISTEN GUY's...LEAERN HOW TO READ...I POSTED that I beat a MR2 nothing more...nothing LESS!!

beside's...I take pride in beating any CAR...specially 25k plus Roadster's...(shit I dunno about u guys but any car can beat u on any giving day) also how RACE's STOCK??? :loser:

and O.K. if a car REV's it to u in a stop light at 1..2 AM!! what do u think he want's to DO??? :screwy:

like he said... how do u know it was even racing you? plus if it was an n/a then it only has 130hp... it would be a shame if it beat u... if it was turbo on the other hand... 200hp 200ft lbs weight ~2600 plus rwd... i would be very hesitant to call an mr2 slow especially with their tuning abuility


:wtf:


LIKE I SAID COMPARE N/A vs N/A or Turbo vs TURBO!!!

if preludes were so damn fast and whooped on everything then why don't you see the pros racing them? 'Cus they're big and heavy. Yeah, they can put down alot of hp but they're heavy as shit.


:gives:


Lude's R Pretty FAST "DAILY DRIVING Honda's"....and so u know my living isn't RACING...so I know my CAR isn't the FASTEST car or will ever BE but that doesn't MEAN It's SLOW!!

Why don't you just put everything in one post?

Why don't you just put everything in one post?
:lol:

Because a higher post count is soooooooooooooo cool. But its not nearly as cool as speaking MSN instead of English.

.....Ha, "signal" y don't u mind ur own.......

and what crazy said....HIGHER POST NUMBER's....gives ur better Rep. LoL...hey, it's the TRUTH

Because a higher post count is soooooooooooooo cool. But its not nearly as cool as speaking MSN instead of English.


273....C

hey y type longer word's??? this isn't English Class!!

C= See

y= why

^^^^^^^^^^
WORD CODE... :biggrin:

R jo0 @ 1337 |-|@x0R? OMG ROFLMAOPMP pwn3d b30tC|-|!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol2:

hahaha Sballer2K - Y Hav pplz udnersnatd j0oz wh3n j0o kan tipe l1ke dis.

:werd:

A higher post count does not give you a better rep.

You've contradicted the saying yourself. Your postcount gets higher, but your reputation gets lower and lower with every post you make.

:wtf:


LIKE I SAID COMPARE N/A vs N/A or Turbo vs TURBO!!!

its not turbo vs turbo because a turbo prelude isnt stock :screwy: so your trying to compare a modded car to a stock one

plus there is no say that its not fair since it has a turbo

thats like me saying that its not fair that the prelude has vtec and the mr2 doesnt... both cars are stock

i bet an upgraded turbo mr2 could probably take a turbo prelude anyways

i bet an upgraded turbo mr2 could probably take a turbo prelude anyways
Hell yeah it could. Seeing as how an mr2 weighs like 5 friggen pounds.

its not turbo vs turbo because a turbo prelude isnt stock :screwy: so your trying to compare a modded car to a stock one

plus there is no say that its not fair since it has a turbo

thats like me saying that its not fair that the prelude has vtec and the mr2 doesnt... both cars are stock

i bet an upgraded turbo mr2 could probably take a turbo prelude anyways


Who said anything about a TURBO LUDE... :loser:

LEARN HOW TO READ and UNDERSTAND SIMPLE SENTENCE's!!


meaning compare a N/A vs N/A and Turbo vs Turbo......

Ex. GSR vs Lude VTEC...same League....

Ex. MR2 Turbo vs Eclipse Turbo...same league...

everyone know's an MR2 Turbo would kill a Lude VTEC but...

:gives:



ALSO do u even have an MR2??? :screwy:

Hell yeah it could. Seeing as how an mr2 weighs like 5 friggen pounds.


awwww how SWEET "GTR" butt kissing...his buddie...that's so :gay:


hahahahahah PEACE!!!

p/s...signal wants to JOIN!!

Ex. GSR vs Lude VTEC...same League....

Ex. MR2 Turbo vs Eclipse Turbo...same league...

Actually I do want to join.

You can put a GS-T and a Lude VTEC in the same league. Turbo or not, they're easily comparable.

And I'll say it again, why don't you just put everything in one post?

awwww how SWEET "GTR" butt kissing...his buddie...that's so :gay:
It's called agreeing you asshat. :twak:

well u do a bad job at IT...come on guys the thread was on a Modded Si and Type S..

LET's MOVE ON....

We did move on. A couple of times now actually. Its you that keeps coming back with this stuff.

This has to be the longest lasting argument ever in one thread, lol.

Kudos to GTR for using one of my new favorites words: Asshat.

ALSO do u even have an MR2??? :screwy:

do u kno how to check profiles???

.....Ha, "signal" y don't u mind ur own.......

and what crazy said....HIGHER POST NUMBER's....gives ur better Rep. LoL...hey, it's the TRUTH
UMMM, No. I think more people with lower postings than yourself provide better feedback and are better respected than you. :rolleyes: - At least in this RSX forum, anyways.

k guy's....like I said "LET's MOVE ON"

I so wanna RACE A RSX-S right now...LoL...I'll get my chance one DAY!! I got low baller friends so I don't know anyone with a RSX-S...there's a chick in school with an Auto base RSX...pretty sweet looking...nice sound...but no GO...

You'll probably still lose to the auto :p

And wow, you wanna street race an RSX. Street racing is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard. And it doesn't prove anything if you win a street race.

Nice avatar and signature Signal. :)

Street racing is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard.
:iagree:

Nice avatar and signature Signal. :)

Thanks :)

You'll probably still lose to the auto :p

And wow, you wanna street race an RSX. Street racing is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard. And it doesn't prove anything if you win a street race.


who said anything about street racing??? :screwy:

about the Auto RSX I been on it... :) ..and I can tell u my mom's auto '99 Sienna XLE is much faster then her Auto Base RSX...she's also driving my Lude and i told her j/k around to race me and she's not down...also is it me but My VTEC sounds a lot louder then her's...u can hardly hear anything on her RSX...is it cause it's an Auto??? any how "please no mom jokes"

The Base is more of an economy/daily driver car than a performer.

I so wanna RACE A RSX-S right now...LoL...I'll get my chance one DAY!! I got low baller friends so I don't know anyone with a RSX-S...there's a chick in school with an Auto base RSX...pretty sweet looking...nice sound...but no GO...
that's where street racing was implied.

about the Auto RSX I been on it... :) ..and I can tell u my mom's auto '99 Sienna XLE is much faster then her Auto Base RSX...she's also driving my Lude and i told her j/k around to race me and she's not down...also is it me but My VTEC sounds a lot louder then her's...u can hardly hear anything on her RSX...is it cause it's an Auto??? any how "please no mom jokes"

The only reason a sienna would feel faster than an rsx is because of a high peak torque that kicks in at a low rpm.

The reason your VTEC sounds a lot louder is becase base rsx/civic si k20's only have vtec on the intake cam.

I C....well I learned something NEW TODAY..

sorry u have such a bad moderator (me.) jus been of learning how to defend our country...sorry...:D

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