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tight ideaB-boy D 06-21-2004, 07:06 PM this making your own body kit with foam thing is an awsome idea! i have a 1st gen crx and i ve only found 2 body kits for it and they both look fuggly! Now i can make one the way i want!:) Ricochet 06-21-2004, 11:58 PM I have a better, cheaper idea.. keep the exterior stock and make it faster!!! omg what a "tight idea"!!!1!!one!! eckoman_pdx 06-22-2004, 04:51 AM I have a better, cheaper idea.. keep the exterior stock and make it faster!!! omg what a "tight idea"!!!1!!one!! lol...I can always count on the wit and wisdom of Ricochet for a laugh...hey....at least he's wlling to try and make his own versus go out and buy some ugly ass body kit that is one of the few he see's for sale. Jetts 06-22-2004, 04:56 AM a kit out of foam, fuck what is the world coming too? people are idiots eckoman_pdx 06-22-2004, 05:09 AM a kit out of foam, fuck what is the world coming too? people are idiots If he thought they ment a kit out of only foam, then I'd say that's dumb...I doubt he ment that, I think he was refering to using the foam to make the mold...make it the base design/shape he wants the bumper to be, size..etc...then wrap it in foil (easier to remove then) and fiberglass over it, and start making your own kit that way....just like is described in the first several pages of the "Do it ur-self body kit?" thread a few spots below this in the forum. emerge 06-22-2004, 01:06 PM CRX's aren't pretty. No matter how many lights or kits you put on it. I agree with Ricochet, make your car faster instead. 1gspot 06-22-2004, 03:34 PM nah i think crxs can be pretty hot, its the first gen ones im not a fan of, too boxy, but they again from the front both of them are pretty boring RSLaser 06-22-2004, 04:05 PM GO FOR IT!!! MAKE THAT KIT! loook at my cardomain site on page 5 ive started to make my kit too. IT LOOKS REALLY FUGGLY, but now i have the liquid foam on there so itll be dry tomorrow, theni can finish sculpting it. Jetts 06-23-2004, 01:15 AM hmmm a 1st gen crx with a foam body kit god Ricochet 06-23-2004, 02:59 AM Here I Photoshopped a nice styrofoam kit for a crx. Needs some cardboard rims and she'll be a trophy magnet. http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/uploads/71957/honda_crx.jpg eckoman_pdx 06-23-2004, 03:03 AM Okay, this is the poor guys secnd post here...lets give him a break...besides...he's not making the whole kit outta foam...lol...he's jut using it as a mold...well....that's how he should be doing it anyway (since he's using foam)...now if anyone did make a actual foam body kit...then...well... On a side note...funny pic there Ricochet...now go photoshop those carboard rims on there...and a few thropies besides it :biggrin: What a trailer queen...:biggrin: RSLaser 06-23-2004, 10:06 AM Posted by Ricochet - 06-23-2004 at 01:59 AM Here I Photoshopped a nice styrofoam kit for a crx. Needs some cardboard rims and she'll be a trophy magnet. LMAO :bigthumb Yes it is just the mold. B-boy D 06-23-2004, 12:15 PM of course im not makin the kit outta foam! All im gonna be doin is givin the front and back some shape. its too boxy and square lookin:P But that photoshop crx ricochet did is pretty damn funny.lol lkailburn 06-23-2004, 12:52 PM i say go for it. diy projects are always a lot of fun.. and if it doesn't work out.. o well.. then you'll have the skilz to make insane audio enclosures that ppl drool over at car shows. i say go for it.. keep it really clean tho goodluck man 1gspot 06-23-2004, 02:59 PM one question, and excuse me if i mess up the terminology...are you using the foam as a buck(mold the body kit over it) or are you using it to make a plug ( fiberglass mold that u make the body kit on the inside of) because if you plan on making the body kit right ontop of the foam A) you can only make one reproduction of your kit really and B)you need to remember the thickness of the fiberglass over the foam otherwise it will be too wide....just some little details to remember. oh and if your not going to cover the foam with tin foil make sure u get the kind that wont dissolve from the resin RSLaser 06-23-2004, 03:33 PM Posted by 1gspot - 06-23-2004 at 01:59 PM one question, and excuse me if i mess up the terminology...are you using the foam as a buck(mold the body kit over it) or are you using it to make a plug ( fiberglass mold that u make the body kit on the inside of) because if you plan on making the body kit right ontop of the foam A) you can only make one reproduction of your kit really and B)you need to remember the thickness of the fiberglass over the foam otherwise it will be too wide....just some little details to remember. oh and if your not going to cover the foam with tin foil make sure u get the kind that wont dissolve from the resin i think hes doin it like me and making a plug by molding the faom to the original buper, foiling it laying 2 layers of glass, pulling it off then laying 7-9 layters in side then pulling it and waalaa. B-boy D 06-23-2004, 06:09 PM yeah im gonna be puting the fiberglass over the foam like RS said.I ve never done anything like this before so i plan on messin up the first few times:) but im determined to make me a body kit that actually looks nice on a 1st gen crx.If the front turns out nice then I ll go ahead and do the sides skirts and rear.Any one know how many layers of the fiber glass sheets i should use?I dont want it to shatter on the first bump i go over.lol And what would be the best way to attatch it once its done? Like i said,i ve never done this before so excuse the stupid questions 1gspot 06-23-2004, 08:11 PM OK if your gunna do it that way you have to make sure u shave the foam a little bit smaller around the edges so it will blend well and not be sticking out, if you want a really good result go the plug route, then u will get something EXACTLY shapped like ur foam. lkailburn 06-23-2004, 08:59 PM be sure to use fiberglass cloth not the chop mat. there are many reasons, if you need em i'll post but you should know why B-boy D 06-24-2004, 12:32 AM i am using the fiber glass cloth. I think instead of just makin a few lil fiberglass pieces and stick them on the bumper when its done, im gonna stick the foam to the bumper in the shape i want,foil the entire bumper and fiberglass the whole thing. do yall think that would work? Im not sure how i would bolt it on or whatever. Any ideas? eckoman_pdx 06-24-2004, 12:35 AM i am using the fiber glass cloth. I think instead of just makin a few lil fiberglass pieces and stick them on the bumper when its done, im gonna stick the foam to the bumper in the shape i want,foil the entire bumper and fiberglass the whole thing. do yall think that would work? Im not sure how i would bolt it on or whatever. Any ideas? Drill the bolt holes in the bumper when you're ready to mount it B-boy D 06-24-2004, 12:44 AM Drill the bolt holes in the bumper when you're ready to mount it But im gonna have an entirely new bumper after i fiber glass the original. im not gonna keep the original..if i fiber glass the original from the outside,will i be able to mount it? I havent taken the bumper off yet so im not even sure how it bolts on. eckoman_pdx 06-24-2004, 12:48 AM But im gonna have an entirely new bumper.if i fiber glass the original from the outside,will i be able to mount it? I havent taken the bumper off yet so im not even sure how it bolts on. What I am saying is, once the bumper is made, drill the bolt holes in it where they go. There's the spot then for your bolts to go, and that's your way of mouting it. B-boy D 06-24-2004, 12:51 AM What I am saying is, once the bumper is made, drill the bolt holes in it where they go. There's the spot then for your bolts to go, and that's your way of mouting it. ok thanx. im gonna have to look at the original when i take it off so i can see how it bolts on and if i can even do it that way. RSLaser 06-24-2004, 03:34 PM when you use the fg chopmat or fg weave, the mat works better, tear it into pieces so it bonds better. the weave is for larger flat areas (like the back bumper for me....i too am in the process of building my own. loook at my cardomain...still kind of rough, it takes time too get it perfect, spray foam is GREAT shit! Also when you lay the glass once the mold is finished, be SURE to tear the glass into striips, its a bitch to get it in the tight corners. B-boy D 06-24-2004, 05:18 PM when you use the fg chopmat or fg weave, the mat works better, tear it into pieces so it bonds better. the weave is for larger flat areas (like the back bumper for me....i too am in the process of building my own. loook at my cardomain...still kind of rough, it takes time too get it perfect, spray foam is GREAT shit! Also when you lay the glass once the mold is finished, be SURE to tear the glass into striips, its a bitch to get it in the tight corners. RS, are you gonna be FG ing the entire original bumper or jus FB ing the pieces you made? I wanna make a whole new bumper but im not sure how easy thats gonna be. RSLaser 06-24-2004, 11:00 PM B-boy, im gonna be fg'ing the WHOLE thing. Its actually easier than it may seem, once you have your foam sculpted, glue in to the car or tape it with masking tape, then remove the WHOLE bumper, foil over it, lay 2 layers of glass, let dry, then and the inside a little, lay 7-9 layers on the inside...no more than 2 at a time. then drill holes in the same place as the original bumper. any other q's id be more than happy to answer, great to see others tryin it! RSLaser 06-24-2004, 11:46 PM also check out my cardomain link...ive got a few more pics, soon ill start on the foam molds for the rear and side skirts. The rear is definatley the easiest, the front is the hardest. also should i put some fog lights in the front bumper? B-boy D 06-25-2004, 01:59 AM also check out my cardomain link...ive got a few more pics, soon ill start on the foam molds for the rear and side skirts. The rear is definatley the easiest, the front is the hardest. also should i put some fog lights in the front bumper? Thanx for tha help RS. i checked out your pics. not bad so far. i hope mine comes out as good.lol i wuz thinkin bout puttin some fog lights on mine too.Make it kinda look like an Evo style body kit i guess. RSLaser 06-25-2004, 09:20 AM the big difference between my kit and most other kits for my car is mine sticks out farther than most, which is how i wanted it. lkailburn 06-25-2004, 09:38 AM not feelin yr style rs but to each his own. just be sure to use woven cloth. don't use the chop mat. trust me on this one RSLaser 06-25-2004, 10:11 AM i thought chop mat was the best? Why is woven cloth better? lkailburn 06-25-2004, 10:56 AM chop mat builds faster than cloth.. but its much too heavy and brittle and inflexible. i made a rear lip from scratch with chop mat but the thing is wayy to heavy and way to stiff and fragile. so i decided to just buy front and rear lips. so when i got them the first thing i did was make a replica of the front lip. i used 3 layers of woven cloth and the thing is super light, super durable, very flexible. i could throw the thing on the ground and not worry about it. plus with woven cloth your are much less likely to get air bubbles.. so if you compare the same thickness cloth vs mat the cloth would be stronger. but trust me on this one. you will be happy you used the cloth. mat is great for audio enclosures because of its quick strength and inability to flex.. B-boy D 06-25-2004, 12:20 PM The only thing about car is that its already about 4or5 inches off the ground with the stock bumper on! So i cant really make it any lower.Im just gonna be makin it wider and and flare out at the bottom. Ive got my idea all drawn out and i will be gettin started tomorrow.I ll take some pics along the way so yall can laugh at my first time workin with this kind of stuff.lol :) 1gspot 06-25-2004, 12:55 PM I think fg is awesome...im designing a center console for a crx that looks way more modern and curvy then the stock one. ill keep u all posted as well RSLaser 06-25-2004, 02:13 PM .I ll take some pics along the way so yall can laugh at my first time workin with this kind of stuff.lol lookin forward to it! eckoman_pdx 06-26-2004, 06:52 PM then drill holes in the same place as the original bumper. Just like I told him to do twice after he asked how to mount it, lol. i thought chop mat was the best? Why is woven cloth better? just be sure to use woven cloth. don't use the chop mat. trust me on this one RSLaser, Ikailburn knows his fiberglassing, so take his advice. As he was saying, it's less brittle and lighter, yet it is stronger. it may not dry as quick, but who cares. Good, hand laid fiberglass body kits use woven fiberglass cloth, not chop mat. Hand laid kits and lips are almost alwsys woven. That's why good companies like ground designs and bomex kits arn't wavy and arn't brittle...and they don't have airbubbles. They ave a little natural flex, so they don't crack super easy like knock off kits do. Cheap knock off's are always shot from a chopper gun, which is bacsically chop mat from a gun. These kits are very brittle, bump it and it can crack, sometimes far away from the spot it was bumped (dew to stress). They are wavy, and prone to airbubbles. This is where the "blue gel coat" and "blue class" idea came from. It's a way to hide the wavy look and the airbubbles, so you don't notice until they pop. You'll noticel qauilty habd laid fiberglass kits, hoods and lips are hand laid with the woven stuff or equivient. The cheap knock offs are always shot from a chopper gun (think chop mat). You'll also notice it's only the knock off's using the chopper gun with this "blue class" idea. There's a reason for everything, remember that. RSLaser 06-27-2004, 03:18 PM RSLaser, Ikailburn knows his fiberglassing, so take his advice. I have only laid the chop mat on a boat before, and i didnt know the difference between the others thats why i asked. I start my FG next saturday on the fron bumper, i will be using cloth on the mold and final bumper (thanks lkailburn). What oz is the best cloth size to use? Theres a few diff. like 1/2 oz etc...which one is the best? lkailburn 06-28-2004, 08:58 AM they all would work out the same. the thicker ones would build faster obviously. but you don't want like only one single layer soo try something in the middle. unfortunatly i don't have a local marina so locally i only have available what advance auto sells. i forgot the weight on it RSLaser 06-28-2004, 08:24 PM I know you said you didnt know the weight, but do you THINK 1.3oz would work? HondaGui4lfe 07-22-2004, 01:50 AM Ricochet.... dude why do you always rag on people man.... your givin this dude $hit because he wants to stand out from the avergae.... "ricer" out there..your givin him hell because he wants to be orignal...and how the hell do you hink body kits are made anyway? Ricochet 07-22-2004, 08:01 PM Stand out from the average ricer by making some shitty ass body kit out of styrofoam? Please neuter yourself to prevent your dim-witting genes from the human pool. lkailburn 07-23-2004, 08:23 AM ricochet-- you only use the styrofoam as part of the mold. you make the kit out of fiberglass... just like all the other body kits out there.... idk, i have no problem with people trying to make their own kits. to say the least its a learning experience. as long as its a clean looking kit, more power to ya! but its their car so let them put whatever custom designed/fabricated kit they want. to each his own vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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