i have been looking at a mitsubishi eclipse turbo. its a 97 with about 58,000 miles all stock. really good condition but i dont know much about them and want the thoughts of people have had one

i work at a oil shop and know my way around cars so dont think i am a complete idiot and can do most of the work here so if you car give me your feed back that would be great

its a manual, loaded, leather and her wants 9,800 for it
but i dont think this guy knows he drives a turbo
thanks

gst or gsx?

gsx

I think this may be the wrong thread for this post, just so you know for the future.

What's the price of the car, stick or auto, what's the equipment, what's the model?

I used to sell cars, so i can give you a good idea of what it should be worth, that's all i can help you with on this one!

its a manual, loaded, leather and her wants 9,800 for it
but i dont think this guy knows he drives a turbo

ECHO Echo echo... :D

first off, the price tag seems a little too high. if you think the car is in decent shape, talk him down a couple thousand if you can.

with the AWD models you got to make sure the transmission is in damn good shape(you dont wanna spend that kind of money replacing or rebuilding that tranny)

and if you wanna see if the engine and tranny is in good shape... drive the shit out of it so you can hear the engine go at higher RPMs

that can and probably is goin to be a bad thing if the person never knew it had a turbo since it probably wasn't properly cared for since not too many people know how easy it is going to be to fuck up something with a turbo without even knowing it.

ehheh, Id only go 6 grand on a GSX.

9800 puts you in the range for things like MR2 Turbos, or if you're money-wise an SR20'd 240.

remember, its got very good mileage (if its original)

if he didn't know it was a turbo model then he never let it idle or anything after driving, he probably never let it warm up, that turbo is on its way out i betcha

Let me make sure i've got this right.

'97 GSX with 58,000 MILES (not kilometers), stock, good (average) condition, stick, loaded with leather, this is the turbo model aswell...

I'd call it at about 5 grand. Keep in mind this is my wholesale price, dealer to dealer and it's only estimated as i can't see the car. Based on my number, a fair retail asking price should only be 7-8 grand. This is assuming average-good condition. If this fella wants 9800 bucks for it, here's my suggestion:

1. Ask for all maintenance history.

2. Take the VIN number and call your local DMV and ask for a lien check.

3. Check carfax.com to view as much history as possible.

Do these things just to see if you can find the value he's got in it to make it worth 9800. If the guy has full maintenance history, owes nothing on it, and it's clean of accidents and all that, then i think he's not far off as that will add an additional 1000 bucks to retail.

Thus, the car should be worth 8-9 grand. Plus, he's added an extra 800 bucks to the top of it because there's some sentimental value to it, and he believe's it's an extra clean car.

Don't insult him on your offer, ie. 5000 bucks for it, but what i'd do is walk around it with him and point out things that need work, and some mechanical issues that may be coming up. Then say:

Based on that, plus i'd like a deal on the price, i'm willing to offer you X for it and i'll take it tomorrow when i can get my insurance in line.

^ This is of course based on whether or not you want to buy the car!

I can't tell you what to offer, but i think 7900 would be a good offer on the car if everything checks out squeaky clean, and ya'll can barter from there. Just don't pay more then 8900 for it, cuz i don't think it's worth it myself. Hope these tips and my info will help you, good luck and post results!

GSX are turbo only, I heard the 2g had crankwalk problems...etc. etc. and so on.

if you really want a gsx, go to dsmtuners.com and get you one on there, most people are fair in asking 6 to 7k for ones kept in good condition.

if you really want a gsx, go to dsmtuners.com and get you one on there, most people are fair in asking 6 to 7k for ones kept in good condition.


If the ones in good condition are selling for 6-7 grand, am i totally out to lunch in what i figured? I suppose i'm used to slightly higher prices as i look at it from a dealership perspective, but still....

Oh another quick help note for you...sticking with my original 7900 suggestion, start with an offer of 7000 even and go from there...it's a little low, but you'll be able to barter a better deal if you start lower. THis is not the case at a dealership, but privately you get extra room right off the top.

If he counters with 9000, offer 7500, he may say 8500 and then you go 7900, cash, this afternoon and i'll insure the car and take it today.

That should give you a good start as far as bartering.

this is all great advice i am going to talk to the guy tomorrow and let you know

well as for the price wise that i seen on autotrader and in the papers 9k is adverage in my opinion low milage, and a 97 and its freaking hard for me to find a gsx 5sp.. but like youngvr4 said the turbo is on the way out.. well its and excuse for a big 16g or even a 20g upgrade.. good luck
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Glad i've been able to help you a bit...post and let us know what comes of it, and as always, any further questions post up and will help as best we can!

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LOL you guys are CRAZY, I have a 97 spyder gst with 128,776 miles that ive been TERRORIZING sence day 1. My t25 came off at 120,000 miles running 16 psi daily in 100% PERFECT CONDTION with Absolutly no shaft play NEVER had a turbo timer. I have never replaced anything bigger than my tranny(after 1) I belive that the dsm owners that own the car and NEVER do reg oil changes tranny flushes in full synthetic and do all nessessary precautions are the ones experiancing the breakages and should be rephrased as MORONS. I think that gsx with the miles is a GREAT PRICE and id buy it if i was in the market. Again please with all the dsm's not reliable shit because if you own a car you dont double the hp without reinforcing the suspension, perfect teh fuel mixures and make sure your dsm link is reading perfect 24/7 or YES YOUR GUNNA BREAK DOWN sooner or later. and thats with EVERY CAR not jsut a dsm.

:banhim: = SpyderEclipseGst

Did you even read what's being discussed? Why would you make such a retarded statement? This is the only thing you said that makes and sense:

I think that gsx with the miles is a GREAT PRICE and id buy it if i was in the market.

:banghead: Stupid people make me angry.

:banhim: = SpyderEclipseGst

Did you even read what's being discussed? Why would you make such a retarded statement? This is the only thing you said that makes and sense:



:banghead: Stupid people make me angry.

Blah blah, you should be mad at your car not me. My rice just tastes better..!

You can pay 9 grand for a gsx if you want.

But I wouldn't overpay like that.

and btw, you're retarded.

LOL you guys are CRAZY, I have a 97 spyder gst with 128,776 miles that ive been TERRORIZING sence day 1. My t25 came off at 120,000 miles running 16 psi daily in 100% PERFECT CONDTION with Absolutly no shaft play NEVER had a turbo timer. I have never replaced anything bigger than my tranny(after 1) I belive that the dsm owners that own the car and NEVER do reg oil changes tranny flushes in full synthetic and do all nessessary precautions are the ones experiancing the breakages and should be rephrased as MORONS. I think that gsx with the miles is a GREAT PRICE and id buy it if i was in the market. Again please with all the dsm's not reliable shit because if you own a car you dont double the hp without reinforcing the suspension, perfect teh fuel mixures and make sure your dsm link is reading perfect 24/7 or YES YOUR GUNNA BREAK DOWN sooner or later. and thats with EVERY CAR not jsut a dsm.

Nobody here has questioned the reliability of the DSMs. Someone did say that they are prone to crankwalk which is undeniably true. So I don't see the point of your post.

Anyhow, I would follow Landyacht's advice. Also ask him how often he changed the oil, ask if he let the car warm up before driving hard, and make sure he let the car idle for a bit after driving to let the turbo drain of oil and cool down.

Good point Polygon, i forgot about little things like that...it'll give a great guage as to how he's taken care of it just in every day driving!


Blah blah, you should be mad at your car not me. My rice just tastes better..!

I should be mad at my car? Line yours up smart ass and we'll see how mad i am at my car. Your POS will fit my trunk. Your rice tastes better eh... keep eating it then. Since your 'rice' made you the way your are, you can keep it!

SpyderEclipseGst = :greddy2:

Good point Polygon, i forgot about little things like that...it'll give a great guage as to how he's taken care of it just in every day driving!




I should be mad at my car? Line yours up smart ass and we'll see how mad i am at my car. Your POS will fit my trunk. Your rice tastes better eh... keep eating it then. Since your 'rice' made you the way your are, you can keep it!

SpyderEclipseGst = :greddy2:


Well the last domestic head that had IMPORT KILLER on his winshield and claimed he runs low 12's got RAPED by my rice with a STOCK TURBO. Now I think you should give this thread up. Im a sole beliver of how a well treated dsm can be reliable. And the price the thread started gave is an excellant price in my area. But I wouldent buy a used car unless I was going to tear it down and rebuild it myself. Im just stating the obvious, dont shoot me. Im just trying to inform the nay sayers and the DSM downers who never owned a DSM and claim they always break down. If your friend is an 18 year old who wants to buy a car mod it, thats reliable and used. Buy a HONDA../w VTEC...OH SHIT THATS FAST...!

Buy a HONDA../w VTEC...OH SHIT THATS FAST...!

I'm assuming you watched that vid. Did you take it seriously or did you see how stupid it really was? Not trying to be a jerk on this one, just wondering.

Im just trying to inform the nay sayers and the DSM downers who never owned a DSM and claim they always break down.

NOBODY SAID THEY WERE SHIT CARS!! READ THE DAMN THREAD!!


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I mention crankwalk and he gets all defensive about dsms not breaking down.

Shove a stick up your ass Spyder, DSM's arent the end all be all of cars, and like every car, it will have its problems.

Shove a stick up your ass Spyder, DSM's arent the end all be all of cars, and like every car, it will have its problems.

Thank you! :smile: