i don't know if this happens to anybody else, but i just wanted to ask: is anyone else constantly raced by full-size pick up trucks? so far i've been raced by three (im talking stoplight racing, btw): a new silverado, a 99 or so silverado, and a Dodge Ram. I don't know if they're expecting to beat me or what, but i've owned them all pretty bad. the Dodge tried to race me yesterday, me and my cousin were driving to my grandparent's house and this guy pulls out in front of me real fast, so I floor it and fly by him. then he gets all offended and pulls up real fast behind me like he's going to run me over...anyway...point is, no actual sports cars have ever tried to race me. this morning i was at a stoplight next to a latest generation miata that had dual exhaust, and i revved by engine, and took off, but he didn't feel like it i guess. i don't know if i'd have won or not, what are your thoughts?

2001 V6 mustang auto, headers, h-pipe, duals, CAI vs.
late model miata, dual exhaust...not sure if it was manual or auto.

I won't race V-6 'stangs or f-body's. No offense, but it's not worth beating on my car, risking a ticket, and burning two dollar gas to race a 15-16 second car with a 12 second car.

I do get a lot of trucks trying to race me. One guy talked smack because he "almost got me" in his 4.7 powered Dodge. His face fell when I opened my hood and only had seven of my plug wires on...(I was on my way to a store to get a wire, i broke one changing plugs).

Rednecks in truck's usually think all "rice, import's" are slow and they cant be fast, not even faster than their trucks. They always try to race me and half the time I embarass them and they get pissed off. I dont even drive like an asshole or anything I drive nice and casual but they like to pick on me anyway...

Rednecks eh? It's the whole thing about 'hemi power' in the trucks and all that BS. It's a load of crap. People go out and buy that gas-gussling hemi truck that can't out-pull the Ford or the Chev in ANY way and they expect that because it's a hemi it should move like a 'Cuda or something.

Just ignorant stupid people, don't even worry about it.

PS: Forgive my little rant!

not so much "redneck" but just people who own trucks and think little imports are slower than their truck.

I won't race V-6 'stangs or f-body's. No offense, but it's not worth beating on my car, risking a ticket, and burning two dollar gas to race a 15-16 second car with a 12 second car. .

I agree. The V-6 stang is more in the realm of import racing than actual muscle car racing. I can take things like miatas, eclipses, older preludes and the like (if they're not modded out the ass) but any v-8 powered car is pretty much going to own me (though i keep up pretty well with my friend's '68 mustang 289) oh well, someday ill have a real car.

I lost to a Hemi...He revved at me and looked over, I proceeded to be rude and when he looked over i rolled my window up on him. Lights green we both took off, we stayed even until 30mph when I let off cuzz a stop light 75ft away was red. No doubt he would have had me. Later come to find out it was modified alittle and the guy was actually cool! [I caught up to him again and we both laughed and waved.]

My dad's silverado is a vortech 350 modified just a ... little bit.

But I always get people trying to race me in my little mx6. And it's not even turbo'd yet :(

yeah why is that the truck guys always want to pick on the sport compacts and then get mad when they get spanked, maybe their torque is getting to their ego :sly:

i like your neon, there. and yeah, torque can go to your head--when i drive my mother's mom-mobile GMC suburban it FEELS like you're going fast, what with the 350ci engine, but then you look at the speedo and your dreams are crushed. plus all the power is in the low-end in those SUV 5.7 liter engines, not to mention they redline at like 4500 rpms.

I see a common attitude among ricers here.

"yeah why is that the truck guys always want to pick on the sport compacts and then get mad when they get spanked, maybe their torque is getting to
their ego "

"Rednecks in truck's usually think all "rice, import's" are slow and they cant be fast, not even faster than their trucks."


I have a truck and it is no world beater, but you have to do better than a 14 second quarter if you want to spank it. When I was 17 I had a stock 3,800lb Oldsmobile that ran 13's from the factory. My truck wouldn't out run it (the Olds)top end, but is much faster 0-60.

I think that the truck drivers think that having a 350CID V8 will make them fast and forget the gear ratio part of the equation. Personally I like 400CID V8 in a car but they don’t make them any more. My grandmother would leave many sport compact sitting on the line in her old 76 caprice.

i like your neon, there. and yeah, torque can go to your head--when i drive my mother's mom-mobile GMC suburban it FEELS like you're going fast, what with the 350ci engine, but then you look at the speedo and your dreams are crushed. plus all the power is in the low-end in those SUV 5.7 liter engines, not to mention they redline at like 4500 rpms.

thanks :)

I see a common attitude among ricers here.

"yeah why is that the truck guys always want to pick on the sport compacts and then get mad when they get spanked, maybe their torque is getting to
their ego "

"Rednecks in truck's usually think all "rice, import's" are slow and they cant be fast, not even faster than their trucks."


I have a truck and it is no world beater, but you have to do better than a 14 second quarter if you want to spank it. When I was 17 I had a stock 3,800lb Oldsmobile that ran 13's from the factory. My truck wouldn't out run it (the Olds)top end, but is much faster 0-60.

I think its the random newb thing :grinno: wheres the ricers at I dont see any? :cwm27: who cares if it takes more than 14s to beat your truck thats not the point the point is that WHY DO ABOUT 75% OF THE TRUCK DRIVERS THINK THEY ARE .................. I DONT KNOW KING OF THE ROAD MAY BE :lol2:

let me see you race my 1977 f250 with the 460 big block. it makes 505 hp and will smoke the tires barely pushing the gas.

let me see you race my 1977 f250 with the 460 big block. it makes 505 hp and will smoke the tires barely pushing the gas.

wtf does that have to do with anything, I am not doubting the SPEED of trucks, the question is WHY DO THEY DRIVE AROUND THE STREETS THINKING THEY HAVE TEN FOOT DICK, I mean seriously :uhoh:

i have had expeirences with people like these before, i dont even own a car and this one woman says she can waste any car i get no matter what it will be, she will be able to waste me because i have(will be getting) a japanese car. she says her car is fast just because it is american, and the funniest part i think is her car is a ford explorer.

you can check out some of the conversations with her on my screenname on AOL, my name is gigglesnirt it is inside my profile, we call her kennylissa if that helps

The only actually fast production trucks would be the Lightning, Silverado SS, and the Ram SRT-10. That's not saying that trucks of those makes aren't fast though. Stock however (especially without a cover on the bed) most of them aren't all that fast.

And explorers aren't good at all. They put out a whole 200 HP (considering she has a 4.0L SOHC v6).

you are makeing it sound like everybody in a truck is an asshole because they think they should be able to beat you cause you are in a import car. i am just stating that just cause it is a truck means it doesn't suck. i do agree some people in trucks are stupid asses but you don't have to label others(redneck racers cause they drive a truck) for what they drive. oh and people in trucks feel good because they are well rounded vehicles and can make a lot of hp and tq out of a big engine with out a lot of mods, unlike little 4 bangers. give any true man a bigblock and his head gets big. his ego has more hp and tq than his truck.

you are makeing it sound like everybody in a truck is an asshole because they think they should be able to beat you cause you are in a import car. i am just stating that just cause it is a truck means it doesn't suck. i do agree some people in trucks are stupid asses but you don't have to label others(redneck racers cause they drive a truck) for what they drive. oh and people in trucks feel good because they are well rounded vehicles and can make a lot of hp and tq out of a big engine with out a lot of mods, unlike little 4 bangers. give any true man a bigblock and his head gets big. his ego has more hp and tq than his truck.



4 Cylinders cant make a lot of hp and tq without a lot of mods?

You got a lot to learn bud.

I have nothing against truck's or their owner's I like truck's

My problem is when im just driving let's say going to the store, there's always some guy in a turbo diesel that just randomly comes up to me and rev's his motor and want's to race. I just let them do what they are doing and go about my business and they think im scared or they get mad cuz I wont race. If I do race them and I usually beat them they get mad and give me the finger or turn off. I know there are some trucks that can beat me I know the potential of the turbo diesel. but I dont go reving at people in stock cavalier's to feel better about myself...

4 Cylinders cant make a lot of hp and tq without a lot of mods?


who needs hp when you got nawzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... haha lol

/\that just sounded so rice it scared me/\

but yeah its not like we are saying everyone who drives a truck is an ass, my dad has a truck with a 5 inch lift kit or something, and i dont think of him as an ass, its just these certain people who get pissed off, not that i know though, im out in utah and the only race that i've seen was against two escalades so i have no expeirence with GOOD street races

it was suppose to sound ricey..



P.S. Im not a ricer... i have a paseo..i can't even pretend to be a ricer *bows head and walks away* :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :loser: :disappoin :grinno: :nono:

sorry..i like the smilies :evillol:

let me see you race my 1977 f250 with the 460 big block. it makes 505 hp and will smoke the tires barely pushing the gas.

Okie dokie, and when I launch, I'll watch you idle towards me since you can't push the gas without smoking the tires...

this is my contribution:

i live in england, and here we dont have this ridiculous craze of putting huge engines in trucks.
what is a truck for? it is a working vehicle for towing and carrying. it is not aerodynamic, nor is it designed for cornering and speed.

so why put a 500hp engine in it? i would much rather have that 500hp in a car with decent suspension etc. where you can have some fun with it.


well thats just my opinion, i know people will disagree with me and i accept that so dont flame me.

The majority of trucks in America will not see any work harder than hauling groceries or some two by fours for the occasional home repair they don’t need the hp but it is hard to find in cars that are domestic and new. We have trucks, but we farm and need them to move things it requires hp to do it. I have nothing against truck drivers or 4 cylinder cars no matter the origin. At the local dirt track the most common thunders (4cyl) race car is the ford pinto but they are usually given a run for the money by Hondas and Toyotas. As for “4 Cylinders cant make a lot of hp and tq without a lot of mods?” if you built an engine with 4 cylinders each the size of a manhole and made it stock on a car, it would not need to be moded to have hp or tq assuming all the right parts are used. It just matters what comes stock is what I am trying to say. To further back this up for years Offenhauser 4 cylinder engines were better than any other at Indy. Sorry if I have offended any one or sound like a jerk.

Hi Guys ! I´m from Brazil and I´ve just arrived in this "fantastic" forum . But my first question is out of subject .... Mr "Redneck" please what´s mening "Redneck" ???????? Hehehehehe......

you are makeing it sound like everybody in a truck is an asshole because they think they should be able to beat you cause you are in a import car.

I SAID 70% GIVE OR TAKE NOT ALL :eek7:

i am just stating that just cause it is a truck means it doesn't suck.

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT TRUCKS SUCKING :eek7: I happen to like trucks and one day I will hopefully buy one and when I do I wont have the attitude of BIG FOOT and try to race everything thats smaller than me cause its a waste of time and $2.50 a gallon gas. :eek7:

oh and people in trucks feel good because they are well rounded vehicles and can make a lot of hp and tq out of a big engine with out a lot of mods, unlike little 4 bangers. give any true man a bigblock and his head gets big. his ego has more hp and tq than his truck.

:wtf: you have to be kidding me :rofl:

how much hp can you make puting a cold air intake on a stock 4 cyl? on a truck or any larger engine you can have upwards of 30 hp with just that. i am stating that bigger engines show more hp and tq with mods than 4 cyl. and all that hp and tq gets to the truck drivers head and they think they can beat anyone. but you are lighter and most of you have just as much hp or tq as stock trucks but in a small package. that is what pisses them off. oh and my truck was a work truck and that is why i retired it. you may be able to take a led because it spins the tires (but i am going to put big tires in the back to help that) it would still be a good race because i would catch up. and with a little custom work a truck can be aero dynamic.

Chip, intake, and exhaust is good for about 45 HP on a Porsche 968, getting it to about 290 HP from a NA 4-cyl.

(don't get me started on turbo 4's if you want to allow those into the discussion)

how much hp can you make puting a cold air intake on a stock 4 cyl? on a truck or any larger engine you can have upwards of 30 hp with just that. i am stating that bigger engines show more hp and tq with mods than 4 cyl. and all that hp and tq gets to the truck drivers head and they think they can beat anyone. but you are lighter and most of you have just as much hp or tq as stock trucks but in a small package. that is what pisses them off. oh and my truck was a work truck and that is why i retired it. you may be able to take a led because it spins the tires (but i am going to put big tires in the back to help that) it would still be a good race because i would catch up. and with a little custom work a truck can be aero dynamic.

your still not getting the point to this thread :banghead: , but if you want to go on about muscule vs import get ready to have a lot of people putting in their :2cents:

... and with a little custom work a truck can be aero dynamic.

Trucks are not aerodynamic, even with a lot of custom work. Please explain to me why a NASCAR Busch Grand National car has to be restricted to 450 HP at Daytona, and the NASCAR Trucks are about 600, and they still run very close to the same speeds? Both have the same types of aero mods, with a few more allowed to the trucks than to the cars.

Hi Guys ! I´m from Brazil and I´ve just arrived in this "fantastic" forum . But my first question is out of subject .... Mr "Redneck" please what´s mening "Redneck" ???????? Hehehehehe......

heahahah.....im sorry i found this funny, redneck is kind of like somebody who lives outside of city areas, and is dirty, smells bad, very stupid, and almost only drives american cars, and always loves nascar. someone else probably has a better answer.

bhoke your eaclty right, all my dad does is put groceries in his truck and uselesss things like that, every year he has to hall a horse trailer out to sierra to go horseback riding with his friends, but thats once a year.(now he is wanting to get the nissan armada though)

well, ive been getting trucks and v6s stangs trying to race me ssince i got my permit, i dont bother like some other guy in here said, its not worth the ticket, or an accident

how much hp can you make puting a cold air intake on a stock 4 cyl? on a truck or any larger engine you can have upwards of 30 hp with just that.

You're kidding, right?

i am stating that bigger engines show more hp and tq with mods than 4 cyl.

It's not quite that simple. In theory, IF all the other factors were equal, a larger engine would have bigger gains with the same mods. But in real life, all other factors are NEVER equal.

I've driven a lot of modified trucks, two of my best friends even have them. It's completely apparant as soon as you start driving that the things were NOT meant for racing. Weight distribution, traction, suspension, handling balance, aerodynamics, power, driving position, visibility, trucks have none of these things without a LOT of mods. It's just a poor platform to build off of.

i already told you the reason(in everypost) why peole in trucks want to race little cars. truck owners have a larger ego(because of the larger engine) that they always want to race little cars. i just wanted to show you how little mods on larger engines can cause you to think hey i could really kick ass with 30 more hp(just from an intake) People in trucks just have big egos thats it.

Chip, intake, and exhaust is good for about 45 HP on a Porsche 968, getting it to about 290 HP from a NA 4-cyl.

oh and you can get 45 hp just from a chip in a truck,exaust (full system) maybe 15-25 hp, and intake about 30hp......what is that....about 90 hp. Like i said this is an ego thing you get about 45 we get about 90 it makes you feel good which causes a big rise in ego.

What I hate is when they drive past you and they rev up or stomp the gas to "go fast". I'm not talking about when I'm driving, I can be parked on the side of the road standing 20 feet away from my car and they'll do it. Hell I can be riding my bike or skating with no car anywhere in sight and they do it. I guess they just do it for every single person they see. What do they think it makes them look cool or something? Gee guy, I'm proud you know where the gass pedal is and how to shift into neutral.

Almost all the modded truck drivers do this where I live, and almost nobody else, so I guess it's a truck thing? :confused:

i already told you the reason(in everypost) why peole in trucks want to race little cars. truck owners have a larger ego(because of the larger engine) that they always want to race little cars. i just wanted to show you how little mods on larger engines can cause you to think hey i could really kick ass with 30 more hp(just from an intake) People in trucks just have big egos thats it.

I'll back you up on that one. When I drove my dad's truck I thought I would beat the crap out of my friends Eclipse Spyder. Unfortunately, we never raced. But I shut my mouth the second I had to start driving the Taurus again. Riding in something that big makes you feel powerful, IMO.

oh and you can get 45 hp just from a chip in a truck,exaust (full system) maybe 15-25 hp, and intake about 30hp......what is that....about 90 hp. Like i said this is an ego thing you get about 45 we get about 90 it makes you feel good which causes a big rise in ego.

Are you just going by the manufacturer claimed hp gains? Cuz you can't just take what they say and add them up... Both of my friends who have trucks (one Dodge Dakota 4.9 and one Chevy 350) and both have intake, full exhaust, programmers, and a couple minor other mods and there is no way either has gained more than 30 hp total from their mods.

lol gain 30hp from intake :grinno:

wtf does that have to do with anything, I am not doubting the SPEED of trucks, the question is WHY DO THEY DRIVE AROUND THE STREETS THINKING THEY HAVE TEN FOOT DICK, I mean seriously :uhoh:

thats funny I've noticed a lot of ricers, or muscle car drivers, etc with the same attitude.

lol gain 30hp from intake :grinno:


I want one! I want one! Can I find it at Napa? :lol2:

:grinno: nah, they only sell em at walmart :iceslolan

Not all people driving trucks who try to race are rednecks. Also why does everyone always end up fighting in this type of thread? Oh well might as well add my 2 Cents. The new Ford 5.4 F-150 will outrun a lot right off the line but will not run anything from a go. It is designed to pull and if you think you were being challenged by a redneck you haven't until they challenge you to a pulling contest, which they do around here. But some trucks have been built to race a buddy of mine has a 71 with a 302 Boss(with internal and external work done to it) It will move and it is a sleeper because it needs paint bad.

i don't know if this happens to anybody else, but i just wanted to ask: is anyone else constantly raced by full-size pick up trucks? so far i've been raced by three (im talking stoplight racing, btw): a new silverado, a 99 or so silverado, and a Dodge Ram. I don't know if they're expecting to beat me or what, but i've owned them all pretty bad. the Dodge tried to race me yesterday, me and my cousin were driving to my grandparent's house and this guy pulls out in front of me real fast, so I floor it and fly by him. then he gets all offended and pulls up real fast behind me like he's going to run me over...anyway...point is, no actual sports cars have ever tried to race me. this morning i was at a stoplight next to a latest generation miata that had dual exhaust, and i revved by engine, and took off, but he didn't feel like it i guess. i don't know if i'd have won or not, what are your thoughts?

2001 V6 mustang auto, headers, h-pipe, duals, CAI vs.
late model miata, dual exhaust...not sure if it was manual or auto.

Well a lot of trucks probably can beat or keep up with a v6 stang. The new hemis or 5.3 chevys can do mid 15's or better. Oh and about your comment of chevy 350's redline at 4500 . The 350 in my truck doesnt even peak until a little over 5k rpms, so I'd guess it would redline around the 5800 rpm range.

the harley davidson f-150 is a monster

:grinno: nah, they only sell em at walmart :iceslolan

hey I checked over there and your a liar :mad: :lol:

the harley davidson f-150 is a monster

Only the supercharged ones, which is what i'm assuming you meant. REALLY nice trucks though! I love the new Harley trucks, the 3/4 tonne diesels in them and all the Harley equipment...ooooh they're sooo nice!!

:smokin:

I won't race V-6 'stangs or f-body's. No offense, but it's not worth beating on my car, risking a ticket, and burning two dollar gas to race a 15-16 second car with a 12 second car.

I do get a lot of trucks trying to race me. One guy talked smack because he "almost got me" in his 4.7 powered Dodge. His face fell when I opened my hood and only had seven of my plug wires on...(I was on my way to a store to get a wire, i broke one changing plugs).

Well I just want to say that ahhh i would like to see you race me if your so confident with your SVT.

Only the supercharged ones, which is what i'm assuming you meant. REALLY nice trucks though! I love the new Harley trucks, the 3/4 tonne diesels in them and all the Harley equipment...ooooh they're sooo nice!!

:smokin:



they are all supercharged

on trucks you can get up to 30hp gain with an air intake (remember that a bigger engine has more cyl thats why they can get around 30hp for a v8 thats 3.75hp per cyl,not so big when you think about it that way)that is the highest i have ever heard.Does 15hp sound about right for a 4cyl to gain on an air intake? i am glad we all stopped fighting.

speaking of trucks.......i just put new pics up on my cardomain site.......check it out the links in my sig. :smokin:

Well, I'm one truck driver who'll never try to race you!! My truck is slow as shit anyway, so there is no point!! I took it to the street races in Dallas 2 years ago when I was drunk (really dumb idea) and raced a couple people (got spanked every time i might add!) and tore up my transmission! (truck has 180,000 miles on it) I learned my lesson and am extra nice to my truck now.
I did however win all exhaust wars. There wasn't a car or truck out there that was louder than my truck!! So at least I won something! :biggrin:

Quote: <HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by 67coupe
I see a common attitude among ricers here.

"yeah why is that the truck guys always want to pick on the sport compacts and then get mad when they get spanked, maybe their torque is getting to
their ego "

"Rednecks in truck's usually think all "rice, import's" are slow and they cant be fast, not even faster than their trucks."


I have a truck and it is no world beater, but you have to do better than a 14 second quarter if you want to spank it. When I was 17 I had a stock 3,800lb Oldsmobile that ran 13's from the factory. My truck wouldn't out run it (the Olds)top end, but is much faster 0-60. <HR SIZE=1>I think its the random newb thing :grinno: wheres the ricers at I dont see any? :cwm27: who cares if it takes more than 14s to beat your truck thats not the point the point is that WHY DO ABOUT 75% OF THE TRUCK DRIVERS THINK THEY ARE .................. I DONT KNOW KING OF THE ROAD MAY BE :lol2:

Ricers suck thats all there is to it....the reason why everyone hates them is because you take an economy car that is made for a middle-aged guy that wants something thats cheap to drive/maintain, and spend about 200 dollars and drive it like it has 500 hp. When you go and put these bolt on exhaust tips, body kits, a huge ass wing (even though it tops out at 80mph) and a neon square glowing from the bottem of your car it looks like something out of a cereal box...its the mentality that 90% of ricer drivers have...that if they put a couple bolt-on mods on their economy car it will make it look like they have a "race car". If something like that beat my truck in a race (which probably wouldnt happen) I wouldn't get mad, I'd just laugh at your car....

oh yeah, no offense intended :headshake

Quote: <HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by 67coupe
I see a common attitude among ricers here.

"yeah why is that the truck guys always want to pick on the sport compacts and then get mad when they get spanked, maybe their torque is getting to
their ego "

"Rednecks in truck's usually think all "rice, import's" are slow and they cant be fast, not even faster than their trucks."


I have a truck and it is no world beater, but you have to do better than a 14 second quarter if you want to spank it. When I was 17 I had a stock 3,800lb Oldsmobile that ran 13's from the factory. My truck wouldn't out run it (the Olds)top end, but is much faster 0-60. <HR SIZE=1>I think its the random newb thing :grinno: wheres the ricers at I dont see any? :cwm27: who cares if it takes more than 14s to beat your truck thats not the point the point is that WHY DO ABOUT 75% OF THE TRUCK DRIVERS THINK THEY ARE .................. I DONT KNOW KING OF THE ROAD MAY BE :lol2:

Ricers suck thats all there is to it....the reason why everyone hates them is because you take an economy car that is made for a middle-aged guy that wants something thats cheap to drive/maintain, and spend about 200 dollars and drive it like it has 500 hp. When you go and put these bolt on exhaust tips, body kits, a huge ass wing (even though it tops out at 80mph) and a neon square glowing from the bottem of your car it looks like something out of a cereal box...its the mentality that 90% of ricer drivers have...that if they put a couple bolt-on mods on their economy car it will make it look like they have a "race car". If something like that beat my truck in a race (which probably wouldnt happen) I wouldn't get mad, I'd just laugh at your car....

oh yeah, no offense intended :headshake

lol we all stopped fighting and here he comes to start it up again.ROFLMAO

Ricers suck thats all there is to it....the reason why everyone hates them is because you take an economy car that is made for a middle-aged guy that wants something thats cheap to drive/maintain, and spend about 200 dollars and drive it like it has 500 hp. When you go and put these bolt on exhaust tips, body kits, a huge ass wing (even though it tops out at 80mph) and a neaon square glowing from the bottem of your car it looks like something out of a cereal box...its the mentality that 90% of ricer drivers have...that if they put a couple bolt-on mods on their economy car it will make it look like they have a "race car". If something like that beat my truck in a race (which probably wouldnt happen) I wouldn't get mad, I'd just laugh at your car....

oh yeah, no offense intended :headshake


Rednecks suck thats all there is to it....the reason why everyone hates them is because you take a truck that is made for a middle-aged guy that wants something to tow his boat, and spend about 200 dollars and drive it like it has 500 hp. When you go and put these huge chrome dual exhaust tips, billet grills, huge ass wheels (even though it tops out at 80mph) and a "euro taillights" glowing from the back of your car it looks like something out of a cereal box...its the mentality that 90% of truck drivers have...that if they put a couple bolt-on mods on their tow truck it will make it look like they have a "race truck". If something like that beat my car in a race (which probably wouldnt happen) I wouldn't get mad, I'd just laugh at your truck....

oh yeah, no offense intended :headshake


Yeah, anyways, your just stereotyping, and it really shows your maturity, or immaturity I should say. A real enthusiast can appreciate and respect ANYTHING that performs well, and obviously you can't do that.

There's a difference between something that preforms well and a ricer you unoriginal bastard

There's a difference between something that preforms well and a ricer you unoriginal bastard

You drive a 2000 Chevy Silverado according to your profile, don't tell me you think it performs well...

"its the mentality that 90% of truck drivers have..."
You must be smoking some DAMN good crack. 95% of truck drivers aren't driving them for performance, they need the things to haul shit around. I know thats what I have my truck for. I mean, its slow as shit, but I can't haul 2 tons of dirt around in my mustang! Its probably more than 95%. There are a few guys who try to build them for speed, or 'slam' them, or jack them up, but they're the vast minority of truck owners.

You must be smoking some major crack yourself if you didn't notice I just copied his post and changed a few words to show stereotyping can work both ways.

Sorry. I do only smoke the best, after all.

woo. i just wanted to express my annoyance that these guys try to race me, i beat them, and then they act like they're going to run me over. i have a V6 mustang, that's 232 ci, 3.8 liters, and i can whoop a 5.7 liter silverado pushing 300hp. now, why would you want to try and make that fast? im just saying...you can't polish a turd. im not saying MY car is a performance orgy or anything...far from it...i guess in the end, people just got their thing. some mod trucks, some mod rice burners. in the end the ricers are almost always going to have the upper hand, cause trucks just aren't made for going fast. i just wish people wouldn't act like shitheads on the road, really. and, im allowed to call people rednecks, i was born in mississippi.

also, thought i'd add this--about the 30hp from an intake, if that's the advertised hp gain, it may be true, but not on a stock engine. maybe if you also had a ported/polished intake, high-flow heads, headers, aftermarket mufflers, and x-pipe, new throttle body, a new MAF sensor, you know, the works, then the CAI might produce 30hp. but it's not going to do that by itself. mods work off each other for the most part, at least when it comes to airflow. I usually estimate my CAI as giving me about 7 rwhp on my V6 and that's with a 75mm mass air meter, headers, h-hipe an MAC mufflers. i would guess the total hp gain from all those mods would prbably be about 20 hp, but even that might be a little optimistic. beyond supercharging, there's no easy way to make lots of power all at once..

Yeah, manufacturers tend to use mystical ideal conditions to test their products. They probably had the non-cold air car idling in 100* heat for a few hours so underhood temps were sky high, then took a dyno, then strapped on their cold air intake and did a dyno with 40* outdoor temperatures. I don't buy any of the manufacturers supposed gains... I'll research a product based on what other customers experiences are, not a magazine or manufacturer's claim.

woo. i just wanted to express my annoyance that these guys try to race me, i beat them, and then they act like they're going to run me over. i have a V6 mustang, that's 232 ci, 3.8 liters, and i can whoop a 5.7 liter silverado pushing 300hp. now, why would you want to try and make that fast? im just saying...you can't polish a turd. im not saying MY car is a performance orgy or anything...far from it...i guess in the end, people just got their thing. some mod trucks, some mod rice burners. in the end the ricers are almost always going to have the upper hand, cause trucks just aren't made for going fast. i just wish people wouldn't act like shitheads on the road, really. and, im allowed to call people rednecks, i was born in mississippi.

wow what an accomplishent beating a truck that ways over 5,000 pounds with 300 hp. Why dont you try racing a truck like mine that has over 300 hp that only weighs 3500-3600 pounds like mine. what does your car run stuck low 16's? A lot of them short bed silverados will run in the 15's stock.

woo. i just wanted to express my annoyance that these guys try to race me, i beat them, and then they act like they're going to run me over. i have a V6 mustang, that's 232 ci, 3.8 liters, and i can whoop a 5.7 liter silverado pushing 300hp. now, why would you want to try and make that fast? im just saying...you can't polish a turd. im not saying MY car is a performance orgy or anything...far from it...i guess in the end, people just got their thing. some mod trucks, some mod rice burners. in the end the ricers are almost always going to have the upper hand, cause trucks just aren't made for going fast. i just wish people wouldn't act like shitheads on the road, really. and, im allowed to call people rednecks, i was born in mississippi.

Back in high school, a friend of mine had a 1994 Camaro, 5-spd, V-6 and it run OK for a 6 cylinder car (it had the 3.4L engine, but I seen it out run a 1999 3.8L Camaro, it was an auto. however), but he was always trying to pick on me in my truck (pictured, 1992 Silverado, 350). Well, rolling from like 55 mph, I could actually jump him by about a truck, and stay there untill about 85 mph, then he would start pulling away, but from a dead stop, I would actually pull away from him. Where we drag race (with the car pictured, nto the truck) I see full size trucks out run V-6 Camaros/Mustangs all the time. Its a 330 ft. track, so right away it gives the advantage to the truck (because of the low end powerbands). Typical ETs for cars like yours and V-6 F-bodies are 7.20s-7.40s and typical times for full size trucks are 6.90s-7.10s for newer ones and 7.10s-7.30s for older ones like mine.

Not trying to start an arguement, just giving a different perspective for ya.

Trucks have pretty good acceleration until about 50 or 60.

lower gear ratios

[indent]Quote: <HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by 67coupe
[i]I see a common attitude among ricers here.


Ricers suck thats all there is to it....the reason why everyone hates them is because you take an economy car that is made for a middle-aged guy that wants something thats cheap to drive/maintain, and spend about 200 dollars and drive it like it has 500 hp. When you go and put these bolt on exhaust tips, body kits, a huge ass wing (even though it tops out at 80mph) and a neon square glowing from the bottem of your car it looks like something out of a cereal box...its the mentality that 90% of ricer drivers have...that if they put a couple bolt-on mods on their economy car it will make it look like they have a "race car". If something like that beat my truck in a race (which probably wouldnt happen) I wouldn't get mad, I'd just laugh at your car....

oh yeah, no offense intended :headshake

I would give the moded cars more credit; the 79 Chevette tops 80 and that’s all stock 1.6L inline 4 with an automatic transmission. Some people would say that you sound jealous. I like wings regardless of effectiveness just look at the older muscle cars some of them had spoilers but according to the law (very few speed limits over 85 MPH on city or country roads) the cars should not be going fast enough for them to be effective. I used to dislike the cars with ground effect kits, spoilers the size of small plane wings, and large chrome exhaust tips, but then it hit me I was jealous. The people driving the cars are the modern gear heads. I love old cars flat head v8s, muscle cars, just big cars with big engines, but after the 70s gas shortage cars with big engines are not being made. What is the biggest engine in a production sedan today, it isn’t 400CID any more. But look at what is available inline 4s and more performance parts are being produced for every make at reasonable prices, further more the parts do not usually require pulling off the head to install saving time. On older cars you could only change a few things this way. The only problem I have with the cars is the size of the engine compartment just a bit tight.

sorry if i just started a fight
and no offense.

There's a difference between something that preforms well and a ricer you unoriginal bastard

No, I don't think my stock silverado preforms well (yet), and I have nothing against a highly tuned sports car (like the 350z project)...the only thing I have a problem with is when people take a civic, accord, or rsx with about 160 hp, put some cheap ass mods to give it 180hp and drive it around with a big ass ego like they can keep up with vipers and vette's. And yes, I have also seen stock trucks keep up with or beat stock v6 mustangs/camaros.

It has just occurred to me I see a lot of hp numbers being used. Who has dyno tested their car or truck, and what were the figures. I doubt that the hp numbers some people are using are accurate, especially if they are talking about things they would not be caught dead driving. :eek7:

No, I don't think my stock silverado preforms well (yet), and I have nothing against a highly tuned sports car (like the 350z project)...the only thing I have a problem with is when people take a civic, accord, or rsx with about 160 hp, put some cheap ass mods to give it 180hp and drive it around with a big ass ego like they can keep up with vipers and vette's. And yes, I have also seen stock trucks keep up with or beat stock v6 mustangs/camaros.

whos promoting anything about rice :eek7: ? I think most of us on this thread are against rice :iceslolan , so who are you trying to single out :eek7: ? If you say those things about 160hp cars that weight in about 2500 trying to beat vipers and such they could say the same about 300hp trucks that weight about 4000-5000 that are made to haul trying to pick on the 160hp cars whats the point of that :uhoh: ?

i don't know about some of you guys but this is starting to confuse me.

Now don’t take this the wrong way. If we are putting down mods lets not forget the 46 pages of bolt-ons for trucks found in the summit racing equipment catalog that is excluding toolboxes and towing sections. Why would trucks have mods? Cold air intake for a truck, but that is just a cheap mod. Performance chips for the all powerful truck, why would any one want to use a cheap mod to gain a few ponies. That was mostly sarcasm, but what you say about mods can be reversed. If trucks can be moded with no complaints why can’t a rice burner car. Cars don’t give a damn what continent they are on, the pistons go up and down the just same. If some one wants more power out of the car they drive then good for them.

:werd:

I give up.....I still hate ricers...but i give up

Oh yeah and a 5.3L silverado could easily take a 160 hp car...I know cuz i raped my friends rsx by about 2 car lenghts after 80mph....

Not all truck owners are rednecks, and some trucks are actually fast ;)

Altho as a truck owner I can't say why they're revving at you guys, you'll have to ask them. I don't rev at people, but I do drive my truck hard, all the time, so if you happen to be there when it happens, don't think it's cause you were there, that's just how I drive :biggrin:

it makes 505 hp and will smoke the tires barely pushing the gas.

Dude, your parking brake is on! Hey, no problem.

Umm...right...this thread has just gone to shit...and not all truck drivers drive around with a 10ft. dick...i know because i drive one.
now yes there are some truck drivers that think they are the shit...a guy friend of mine owns a 96 Silverado...5.7l Vortech...says he could take another guy in a 93 EX. Cab 5.7l Vortech...now according to him he knows what his truck can do and what not and can beat this other guy in the 93...because it doesn't have the "Vortech" wtf? anyways truck owners that rev at me i just ignore them and turn the music up and listen to it...because they can't see me due to the 2% tinted windows...but ill see them fly ahead to the next gas station.

Dude, your parking brake is on! Hey, no problem.
it has a lot of power at low rpms if you push the gas to fast yet still only push it a little it will smoke the tires. no big deal just stating his has power to it.

Umm...right...this thread has just gone to shit...and not all truck drivers drive around with a 10ft. dick...i know because i drive one.
now yes there are some truck drivers that think they are the shit...a guy friend of mine owns a 96 Silverado...5.7l Vortech...says he could take another guy in a 93 EX. Cab 5.7l Vortech...now according to him he knows what his truck can do and what not and can beat this other guy in the 93...because it doesn't have the "Vortech" wtf? anyways truck owners that rev at me i just ignore them and turn the music up and listen to it...because they can't see me due to the 2% tinted windows...but ill see them fly ahead to the next gas station.

Well, a Vortec 350 has about 50 more horsepower then a Throttle Body 350, so your friend is probably right, but the race would be alot closer then what he thinks.

it has a lot of power at low rpms if you push the gas to fast yet still only push it a little it will smoke the tires. no big deal just stating his has power to it.

I know what you mean, my accord does the exact same thing


hehehe

I know what you mean, my accord does the exact same thing


hehehe

yea i hear them accords put out around 500 lb ft of torque :naughty:

Maybe with like 8 turbos

yea i hear them accords put out around 500 lb ft of torque :naughty:
My lugnuts require more torque than a Honda makes. :rofl:

this thread is over, done, and shouldnt be brought back lock it and throw away the keys