scale?

what scale 18wheeler would i need to make a diarama with a 1/24th scale car? like a 1/12th? :lol2:

ummm no. . . you would need a 1/24th scale truck

Er, I would think 1:24 if you want the two vehicles to be in scale... let me know if I've missed the point!

18 Wheeler's are usually 1:32 to 1:28 scale. They make a couple cabs that are 1:24 (they cost about $45USD) and you could build a trailer out of styrene.

im pretty sure Testors used to have just the Truck without a trailer. im %99 it was 1/24 too, it was my brothers older model, i was gonna put it together but some of the pieces had been lost, so now i just have a MONSTER turbo that will be used in the future from it :evillol:

There are many truck kits (trailers too) available. Revell just re-released their 1/25 scale car hauler trailer. :smile: I have three of the previous release already. :icon16:

i want one that i could put the car inside and have it look real so the rig would have to be bigger than the car

If the RIg was the same scale as your car, the car will fit in it.

Here is a list of 1:24 scale trucks And trailers currently made by Italeri:
http://www.italeri.com/Categoria.asp?ProCategoria1=1&Cat3Codice=28&Cat4Codice=24

Believe us, if you want to have a truck to carry your 1:24 scale car, the truck should definately be 1:24 as well.

If you need some explanation, say so.

I think you're confusing scale and size. I will try to explain the difference simply. Note: later when I use measurements, I made up the initial 1" long Hotwheel figure to make the rest simple, so don't go measure models and tell my I'm wrong, it's just for illustrative purposes.

Size is how big something is.

Scale is how big something is in relation to something else.

That's a little oversimplified but it's a good start. Let's say we have two Hotwheels toys. One is a Mini Cooper and another is a Kenworth tractor. These two minatures will be about the same size, so they would fit in the same size package and could both be sold for 80 cents. Flip them over and you'd discover (if Hotwheels was kind enough to provide it) that the Mini Cooper is 1:64 while the tractor is 1:92. Those are the different scales, and that's why the truck would end up the same inch long as the Cooper.

Those scales (1;64 or 1:92) are how big the car is to the real one. It's a ratio. If the Mini Cooper model is an inch long at 1:64, that means the real one is 64 inches long (5'4" for those of you who are counting). The inch long truck, at 1:92 would be 92 inches long in life (7'8")

But now let's play with the Revell Mini Cooper and their truck model, both 1:25. Since this is a ratio, the two models would be reduced by the same factor. Follow? The real Mini Cooper, which is 5'4" long, would be just over 2 1/2" long in 1:25 scale (Divide the 64" by 25). The truck, at 7'8" long would be a good 3 3/4" long in 1:25 scale, considerably larger than the Mini, eh?

Is this clear, or further confusing?

further confusing.......i think i got it tho i can buy a 1/24th rig and have it look life like thankx guys.

Hmm, lets try another way...

OK, take an average 6 foot tall (72") man. In 1:24 scale, he would be 3 inches tall (72"/24 = 3"). He'd be perfectly sized to climb into your 1:24 Supra and go cruising. If you built a 1:24 scale motorcycle, he'd be perfectly sized to take that for a spin, as well. Your 1:24 Supra is, what, 7" long? Guess what- that means that an actual Supra is 168" long, or 14 feet long (7"x24 = 168") (168"/12 = 14'). A 1:24 scale Honda racing bike would be about 3" long- this means that in real life, the actual bike is 72" long, or six feet (3"x24 = 72) (72"/12 = 6').

One of these 1:24 Italeri trucks will have a trailer that's about 4" wide, and maybe 14" long, and say maybe 7" tall (figuring that a real trailer is probably pretty close to 8' wide, 28' long, and 14' high). For a model, that's pretty big. It's big enough for you to clench your fist, and stick it into the back of the truck almost to your elbow. It's also big enough for our 3" 1:24 scale dude to park your Supra, and the 1:24 Honda bike, and a 1:24 hot tub and maybe a 1:24 king size bed (which is 3 1/2" by 3" in size), and his 1:24 scale 24 inch color TV (which has a one inch screen), also.

A 1:12 scale truck would be HUGE- large enough that it would barely fit on most desks. If it were a model of the same truck as our Italeri example above, the trailer alone would be 8" wide, and 28" long. Our 1:24 scale guy could then park 4 Supras end to end, and then park another four next to the first four. Few, if any real life trucks could actually hold 8 Supras, without stacking them. To our 1:24 guy, this truck is 16' wide, 56' long, and 28' tall. Highways in most countrys won't fit vehicles of this size- they'd be exactly double the size of an average real truck.

Now if this 1:24 guy wants to build a 1:24 scale model of a Supra for himself, it would be 7" (the length of a real 1:24 Supra model) divided by 24, = 0.292" long, about a quater of an inch long- larger than a grain of rice, but smaller than a single peanut.

Any better?

Nicely Put

If the RIg was the same scale as your car, the car will fit in it.
It's as simple as that! :iceslolan

18 Wheeler's are usually 1:32 to 1:28 scale. They make a couple cabs that are 1:24 (they cost about $45USD) and you could build a trailer out of styrene.

Hummm, no, Italeri and Revell AG make a whole range of trucks(with trailers) in 1/24 scale.

I know because I have some of them.

Hummm, no, Italeri and Revell AG make a whole range of trucks(with trailers) in 1/24 scale.

I know because I have some of them.

Really? I must be looking in the wrong place. I have been looking for a trailerless cab for awhile in 1/24 and havent found anything. I have found the trailers and a couple cabs, but all the combos I have seen are 1/32 scale.

Uh, guys, let me reiterate:

Here is a list of 1:24 scale trucks and trailers currently made by Italeri:
http://www.italeri.com/Categoria.asp?ProCategoria1=1&Cat3Codice=28&Cat4Codice=24

just to toss my :2cents: into this. a 1/24 scale truck is
larger then a 1/25 scale truck. thats a given but when
you put a 1/24 scale truck next to a 1/24 car the two
look way out of proportion I know that a big rig is big in real life i drive them for a living but the two in 1/24 just dont look right next to each other

same thing with 1/87 or h.o. train scale
a 1/87 loco is a lot taller then a 1/87 tractor trailer
but put the two side by side and there the same size

i just want it to look life like like a real car would look like sitting next to a 18 wheeler if anybody could tell me what scale would look best i would be happy,but right now im cunfused because i got ppl telling me 1/24th then bigford said they dont look right.i just want it to look life like.

Dude, if you want it scale, then keep them both 1/24th, if you want it to look "right" well, I'm not really sure what you're actuallly getting at.....

seems like these explanations are confusing you..

all 1:24 scale things match in lifelike size to any other 1:24 scale thing. So say a truck...holding a car was shrunk down to 1:24...the car would still fit in the truck...but both items are just smaller in size.

i just want it to look life like like a real car would look like sitting next to a 18 wheeler if anybody could tell me what scale would look best i would be happy,but right now im cunfused because i got ppl telling me 1/24th then bigford said they dont look right.i just want it to look life like.

You'll be fine either scale, 1/24 or 1/25. The trucks will be large enough. Did you want a car hauler trailer such as this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2584&item=5904150276&rd=1 , what you would see delivering new cars one the lot? That trailer will hold 6 cars. Or you could go the enclosed race trailer route http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2584&item=5904219257&rd=1 This particular one fits the car into the trailer, so it won't be seen as well. Or you could by the hauler trailer and decide if you wanted a USA style truck http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2584&item=5904219270&rd=1 or a European type truck http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2584&item=5904219106&rd=1

Your options are very wide.

If you didn't want a big rig, you could get this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2584&item=5904619821&rd=1 and build a suitable pickup or SUV to pull it. :smile:

im currently working on an AMT rig that is 1/25...
i bought a peterbuilt 359 and a lowboy deck trailer, for $6 each at my local boglots and believe me they're big... I could fit two cars on the deck trailer...

Dang, it seems like I'm ALWAYS following Freaky around here!

So what he said! You can even get AMG or Ferrari liveried semi-truck models.

Bill

I don't know what bigford550 is talking about. I don't think I quite understand him. I will therefore go out on a limb and say, he's wrong. Any two things that are in the same scale will look right together. The scale is a proportion. A ratio, if you will, of size to the real one. A real live car will be 24 times longer than a model of it in 1:24. A real live truck will be 24 times longer than a 1:24 truck. They will look just right side by side. You DO NOT need to get a different scale to make the truck bigger, the truck is bigger in real life, and will be bigger in the same scale.

If you want to get anything out of this thread, if you didn't understand anything else anyone said... well, here's the advice you askef for.

Get a truck in the same scale as the car you want to put it with.

Ignore the rest of the thread if you have to.

Willmo, I'm sure BigF is speaking of the "scale effect".

When we see the trucks pass us on the roads most of us think they are HUGE (my father was an owner operator for all his life and I know a thing or 2 about Kenworths, Freightliners, IH's ,Peterbuilt's and Cats, DD and Cummins engines) but when we look down on a 1:24th scale truck next to a 1:24th scale model, our mind says "That ain't right!"...even though it is.

They don't call them "models" for nuttin!

hth,
Bill

Such awkwardness comes from the fact that human eyes don't register two objects of say, 20 cm long model and 4 meter long real car the same way. That's even more true when the real object is something so huge like a truck.

The truth is, as long as two models are in the same scale, the relative sizes of the two models remain the same as the real-life subjects.

> SupaMan89T (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=180464)
So, if your car is 1/24 scale, get a 1/24 scale truck. Italeri's truck models are highly detailed, and look awesome. I have Italeri's Mercedes truck model, which I intend to make as the Porsche transport for the 911GT1 racer. Both are in 1/24 scale.

that's what i ment thank you bvia
looking at the 1/24 truck and car
they just dont seem right is all
they both are scaled the right size
it just look off to the eye

Ok. Bigford550 ain't wrong. Sorry for putting my foot in my mouth. However, my other statements stand....

that's what i ment thank you bvia
looking at the 1/24 truck and car
they just dont seem right is all
they both are scaled the right size
it just look off to the eye

To the human eye, a 1/24 scale flatbed truck with a 1/24 Supra on it will look like a model of a truck- that just happens to have a car on it. But because the truck is so much larger than the car (as all real flatbed trucks are much larger than Supras), the model of the truck will dominate the Supra, and the car will appear more as a supporting detail than as the main subject of the diorama. A 1/25 model of a flatbed truck would be slightly smaller than a 1/24 model of the same truck- maybe about one inch shorter total, but it would still be large enough that a 1/24 scale car would probably not look incorrect on it. Because the 1/25 truck would be slighlty smaller than a 1/24 truck, it might not dominate the car model as much- but have no doubt, it will still dominate the car model.

So, long story short- if you want a truck/trailer model to accompany your 1/24 car and be accurately sized, get a 1/24 truck. Pretty simple.

BUT-
If you're freaked out that the truck will be huge next to your car (which it will), you could consider a 1/25 truck instead, which will be almost (but not quite) every bit as large as a 1/24 truck.

In reality- look for the type of truck, in 1/24 or 1/25, that you want most. Get it, build it, put your car with it. It's not going to make that much of a difference either way.

ok thank you guys im sorry for gettin everybodys nerves and blood boiling lol i think i got it now

This is one of the funniest posts I've seen in a while.

not to mentioned stupidest thread

I meant thread, not post.